Having read the book myself, I think what you're saying is broadly true.
The longer I work in this sector/business the more I see what she is getting at. I like to think of much of what she describes in the book is the geek side of the ragged social interface between geeks and "The rest of the world" where things aren't as simple, or as internally consistent as software and hardware.
Of course there are plenty of people in this techno-world who exhibit none of the behaviors she talks about (actually, these are likely the majority). Isn't that the same with most things?
Cyberselfish is an important book to me, mostly because it challenged many of my ideas, especially about own Wired-inspired quasi-libertarian self-definition.
I found her history of Wired Magazine a cipher for the late 90s. I was personally suckered by the quiet agenda of the magazine, which I used to think of as a balanced view of things post-industrial.
Its one of those situations where waiting to start something can make the result come sooner. Of course, the success of the late starter (with the newer technology, like Celera) is predicated on the innovations of the first mover (like HGP.)
In this scenario, you can't have a Celera without an HGP.
Question: Are they working on these 5 people in parallel? Wouldn't that make sense?
One one level, I figure its makes sense that a private company would be able to beat some government initiative, no matter how well staffed and funded.
On another level, I'm worried too, and I can see them trying to patent certain things because they got there first, rather than (I don't have a major problem with) them patenting their techniques for acquiring this intel.
Should there be a 'GPLing' of the genome? If so, just how could you?
I think this review helps explain things a bit: http://www.devx.com/free/products/pgReview.asp?R eviewID=12505
Basically, on NT this means you can use ASP on (almost) any web server, rather than just IIS. On a different OS, you'd have to recompile the COM objects (can you *really* do this?) for say, Linux and then use 'em there, behind the ASPs running on the Chillisoft engine. I guess you could access remote COM objects this way too, but I don't know if this is highly performant; most ASP/COM stuff I've seen is on one box.
Of course, like most of the people posting on this topic, I've never used Chillisoft's product either .;-) So, YMMV.
1) how can something like reverse engineering of (for example) Intel's chipset be possible, if its actually providing a place to play digital content (i.e. Windows, and its attendant apps)and obviously, they wouldn't want to you to copy the 'playing' mechanism?
2) Is this law retroactive to inventions that existed before the law's creation? (DVD predates DMCA, right?)
AFAIK, it *IS* possible to bit copy DVDs, in principle. Reading Andreas Bogk's comments, (http://www.eff.org/ip/Video/DVDCCA_case/dvd-bogk. html) duplication of DVDs was possible without DeCSS). Of course, the copied content isn't plaintext, (its still encrypted) but saleable to an unsuspecting consumer.
I'm sure the *real criminals* who try to make money from pirate DVDs have factories where they can whack out thousands of copies a day.
Does anyone out there use Dogpile? I prefer it, because it shoots back so many different sources (no, I don't work there).
Flaw: Based on static, public hyperlinks?
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How do you suppose they account for dynamically-generated (i.e. database- or object-driven) web pages that typically don't register with search engines?
What about sites with logins, where hundreds of pages are hidden from public view?
It seems to me that most of what's interesting about the emerging behaviour of the web is buried within one of those two types of sites... discuss?!
I'm reading with wonder about peoples wildly different experiences with Exchange (I have personally observed massive differences in performance between different instances of Exchange)
What I think people need to fear more is being at the whim of a Micros~1 platform agenda. I personally have a gripe with how Micros~1 locks you into their formats on the desktop and database.
Before you consider exchange, ask yourself how you might be able to move from Exchange to another product. IMO its not easy, and each day you use it, it'll get harder.
Also, I have a chip on my shoulder with how the changing feature set of Exchange managed to rid my old company of its NNTP servers (IT guys said: NNTP is coming in Exchange 5, so we'll stop showing people how to use News and get them on Exchange mailing lists, so there's one client) just long enough to make news disappear from people's internal communications habits.
I wonder how many organisations stopped using NNTP when Exchange started to take off?
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Yea, no kidding. Handspring just did what every consumer electronics company does with their product cycle.
Its the standard thing; when they announced there would be $100 off the 180, I knew they were end-of-lifing or bringing out someting new.
I didn't want color, so I got a 180g.
AFAIK, Yahoo uses Rocketmail, which they either bought from Rocketmail, or they bought the company.
-pbk
Having read the book myself, I think what you're saying is broadly true.
The longer I work in this sector/business the more I see what she is getting at. I like to think of much of what she describes in the book is the geek side of the ragged social interface between geeks and "The rest of the world" where things aren't as simple, or as internally consistent as software and hardware.
Of course there are plenty of people in this techno-world who exhibit none of the behaviors she talks about (actually, these are likely the majority). Isn't that the same with most things?
Cyberselfish is an important book to me, mostly because it challenged many of my ideas, especially about own Wired-inspired quasi-libertarian self-definition.
I found her history of Wired Magazine a cipher for the late 90s. I was personally suckered by the quiet agenda of the magazine, which I used to think of as a balanced view of things post-industrial.
Man was *I* naive. And so are many of our peers.
-pbk
There's always the PDA market.
I don't see anyone declaring WinCE champion anytime soon.
-pbk
I get it.
Its one of those situations where waiting to start something can make the result come sooner. Of course, the success of the late starter (with the newer technology, like Celera) is predicated on the innovations of the first mover (like HGP.)
In this scenario, you can't have a Celera without an HGP.
Question: Are they working on these 5 people in parallel? Wouldn't that make sense?
-pbk
One one level, I figure its makes sense that a private company would be able to beat some government initiative, no matter how well staffed and funded.
On another level, I'm worried too, and I can see them trying to patent certain things because they got there first, rather than (I don't have a major problem with) them patenting their techniques for acquiring this intel.
Should there be a 'GPLing' of the genome? If so, just how could you?
-pbk
Since they're the first to do it, how can anyone be sure of the veracity of their claims?
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Should I RTFM? IS there a FAQ on this somewhere?
-pbk
I think this review helps explain things a bit:R eviewID=12505
;-) So, YMMV.
http://www.devx.com/free/products/pgReview.asp?
Basically, on NT this means you can use ASP on (almost) any web server, rather than just IIS. On a different OS, you'd have to recompile the COM objects (can you *really* do this?) for say, Linux and then use 'em there, behind the ASPs running on the Chillisoft engine. I guess you could access remote COM objects this way too, but I don't know if this is highly performant; most ASP/COM stuff I've seen is on one box.
Of course, like most of the people posting on this topic, I've never used Chillisoft's product either .
-pbk
Fair Comment. This brings up a few questions;
1) how can something like reverse engineering of (for example) Intel's chipset be possible, if its actually providing a place to play digital content (i.e. Windows, and its attendant apps)and obviously, they wouldn't want to you to copy the 'playing' mechanism?
2) Is this law retroactive to inventions that existed before the law's creation? (DVD predates DMCA, right?)
IA(definitely)NAL, and I'm feeling it right now.
-pbk
AFAIK, it *IS* possible to bit copy DVDs, in principle. Reading Andreas Bogk's comments, (http://www.eff.org/ip/Video/DVDCCA_case/dvd-bogk. html) duplication of DVDs was possible without DeCSS). Of course, the copied content isn't plaintext, (its still encrypted) but saleable to an unsuspecting consumer.
I'm sure the *real criminals* who try to make money from pirate DVDs have factories where they can whack out thousands of copies a day.
cheers,
-pbk
Does anyone out there use Dogpile? I prefer it, because it shoots back so many different sources
(no, I don't work there).
How do you suppose they account for dynamically-generated (i.e. database- or object-driven) web pages that typically don't register with search engines?
What about sites with logins, where hundreds of pages are hidden from public view?
It seems to me that most of what's interesting about the emerging behaviour of the web is buried within one of those two types of sites... discuss?!
I'm reading with wonder about peoples wildly different experiences with Exchange (I have personally observed massive differences in performance between different instances of Exchange)
What I think people need to fear more is being at the whim of a Micros~1 platform agenda. I personally have a gripe with how Micros~1 locks you into their formats on the desktop and database.
Before you consider exchange, ask yourself how you might be able to move from Exchange to another product. IMO its not easy, and each day you use it, it'll get harder.
Also, I have a chip on my shoulder with how the changing feature set of Exchange managed to rid my old company of its NNTP servers (IT guys said: NNTP is coming in Exchange 5, so we'll stop showing people how to use News and get them on Exchange mailing lists, so there's one client) just long enough to make news disappear from people's internal communications habits.
I wonder how many organisations stopped using NNTP when Exchange started to take off?
-pbk