Yes, choice is good, but at some point (the long run) KDE and GNOME will become essentially the same in terms of performance, APIs, widgets, etc. Each team will co-opt the ideas of the other.
In the end you will have two toolkits that differ chiefly in name only.
16 guys for $3 million? They work cheap
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At some Valley web companies, thats the aggregate value of just a few (three or less) engineers.
I know $3 million sounds like a big number, but its fairly low for 16 employees. I doubt they're very good or they'd realize that 16 top engineers are worth at least $16 million to any tech company.
Beware Corporate-Controlled Languages
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I for one will not touch Java until it is fully opened up.
There's simply too much of a chance that it will get mangled in the process of Sun trying to screw Microsoft, etc.
In fact, the entire debacle of Java on Win32 (MS extensions) validated these very dangers.
As a former RH 5.2 user, I suggest FreeBSD. Its solid, easy to install, easy to upgrade (via CVSup) and the ports system is excellent.
Also, I find that the packages on the FreeBSD site are for quite recent versions of software.
I found most RH rpms were for outdated versions of the software - which means you end up not using rpm that much - which can make it a hassle at upgrade time.
I understand that you don't simply package up software for distribution as a package the first day it comes out, but most RH packages appeared to be six months off or more.
Free Software community could dry up pretty quickly under shareholder pressure.
Not if the shareholders are supportive of OSS.
Buy the stock! Have your say!
Actually, right now RH's chief investors (Intel, AOL/Netscape, etc.) aren't exactly poster children for OSS. Some public shareholders could provide pro-OSS balance.
Historically, the pressure of pleasing stockholders has prevented more problems than have been created.
Look at Pfeiffer at Compaq, for example, or Amellio at Apple.
Both were duds that were ousted partially due to shareholder pressure.
Of course, in a perfect world, the perfect manager could work better without having to please the "masses". Unfortunately, many CEOs are incompetent. JWZ should have looked at his own company and realized this.
If Intel, Netscape, etc. can own a piece, why not us?
Banning guns is not the answer.
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so would you rather be totally helpless or at least have something to try and fight back with
You already have everything you need to fight back with - its between your ears. The information-plane is the real battle ground now. Use encryption!
Myth- guns protect you from government
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This continuing myth seems very amusing.
Gun nuts across the country seem assured that their hunting rifle protects them from the excesses of government.
When was the last time an armed standoff ended with the lone rifleman victorious? Remember Waco - when the government needs bigger guns than you, they can get them very very quickly and use them in a very arbitrary fashion.
Guns do not protect you from an abusive governmnent, unless you happen to own a better variant of the M-1 tank than they do.
The control of information is the real battle ground. Government and corporations have most Americans truly hypnotized. This subtle form of control is very effective.
Banning guns is not the answer.
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One thing people don't realize about "The Right to Bear Arms" is that this is not only to protect yourself from criminals but also from the government.
The American government generally controls through propoganda, not force. When they do resort to force, they have much larger guns than you will ever have, and more skilled people using them.
When people have free access to firearms, they use them.
Just ask your self the last time you heard of a school shooting in Canada.
Most Americans are mislead into thinking owning a gun protects them from aggresive government. Unfortunately, the American government rules by propoganda. not by force. Its a much more subtle and effective means of control, and completely bypasses the gun nuts.
If a child can access X-rated web sites, that reflects on the child's parents more than on society as a whole.
The age-old libertarian fallacy rearing its ugly head once more.
By this logic there are some very bad parents in Colorado. They should have been watching their children more closely I suppose. Its the parents fault they weren't wearing flak jackets.
Young people are more harmed by guilt that is instilled by a repressive Ministry of Information, than they are by viewing nonviolent sexual or erotic imagery.
Nice, meaningless, unsubstantiated rhetoric.
Let me just leave you with a quote from Ted Bundy:
". . . I've met a lot of men who were motivated to commit violence just like me. And without exception,every one of them was deeply involved in pornography . . . "
The fact that the citizens of the United States have not seen fit to rescind the Second Amendment in the 212 years of the American Republic should tell you something: namely, that we don't see the need to remove it. ...
Or that the NRA lobbyists have a strangle hold on legislators.
The Gun Lobby is up there with the Milk Producers in the Hall of Lobbying Fame. It shouldn't shock any American to know this, but don't insult me by hinting that it is the popular will that firearms should be distributed (near) freely.
So I guess what I am saying is that you should either decide that the government knows whats best and should have strict control and licensing of all dangerous behavior (like free speech and firearm ownership), or you should decide that the individual knows best and minimize governmental controls wherever possible
Then in this case we must obviously conclude that government knows best, as the wide-scale distribution of firearms has been a social cataclysm for the United States. If the amending parties could see the damage done, there would have been substantial alterations to the Constitution.
In fact, this type of "Constitutional Review" was provided for and encouraged - the founding fathers stipulated that the Constitution should be reviewed and amended regularly. We failed to follow their advice. Rather we would assume that 18th century rules apply to the 20th century.
If Slashdot polls are any indication, most Slashdot users are males in their early to mid twenties. In other words, the prime consumers of porn. You should take any advice they give you regarding censorship with a grain of salt.
Most users here have no idea what it means to raise a child. Here's a small hint - you cannot watch everything that a child does, or police all of their actions. That is why there are general standards on the distribution of adult print materials in every industrialized nation. This notion of parental accountability and responsibility can realistically only go so far. Even the most anal-retentive parents must leave their children to the whims of society for part of the day.
Once most Slashdot users come to have children, they'll realize that their "maybe the parents should get involved" rhetoric is quite unrealistic.
An ideal solution for some people is to run NT on their desks with an X-server. I used to do this at work- I could open up xterms to a BSD box whenever I needed them, and had NT there for client-side stuff like web surfing.
Better borwsers for linux would solve this problem, but I don't see major browser vendors focusing too much on linux (compared to nt,95/98 and Mac) for the foreseeable future.
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Yes, choice is good, but at some point (the long run) KDE and GNOME will become essentially the same in terms of performance, APIs, widgets, etc. Each team will co-opt the ideas of the other.
In the end you will have two toolkits that differ chiefly in name only.
At some Valley web companies, thats the aggregate value of just a few (three or less) engineers.
I know $3 million sounds like a big number, but its fairly low for 16 employees. I doubt they're very good or they'd realize that 16 top engineers are worth at least $16 million to any tech company.
I for one will not touch Java until it is fully opened up.
There's simply too much of a chance that it will get mangled in the process of Sun trying to screw Microsoft, etc.
In fact, the entire debacle of Java on Win32 (MS extensions) validated these very dangers.
As a former RH 5.2 user, I suggest FreeBSD. Its solid, easy to install, easy to upgrade (via CVSup) and the ports system is excellent.
Also, I find that the packages on the FreeBSD site are for quite recent versions of software.
I found most RH rpms were for outdated versions of the software - which means you end up not using rpm that much - which can make it a hassle at upgrade time.
I understand that you don't simply package up software for distribution as a package the first day it comes out, but most RH packages appeared to be six months off or more.
Free Software community could dry up pretty quickly under shareholder pressure.
Not if the shareholders are supportive of OSS.
Buy the stock! Have your say!
Actually, right now RH's chief investors (Intel, AOL/Netscape, etc.) aren't exactly poster children for OSS. Some public shareholders could provide pro-OSS balance.
Historically, the pressure of pleasing stockholders has prevented more problems than have been created.
Look at Pfeiffer at Compaq, for example, or Amellio at Apple.
Both were duds that were ousted partially due to shareholder pressure.
Of course, in a perfect world, the perfect manager could work better without having to please the "masses". Unfortunately, many CEOs are incompetent. JWZ should have looked at his own company and realized this.
If Intel, Netscape, etc. can own a piece, why not us?
so would you rather be totally helpless or at least have something to try and fight back with
You already have everything you need to fight back with - its between your ears. The information-plane is the real battle ground now. Use encryption!
This continuing myth seems very amusing.
Gun nuts across the country seem assured that their hunting rifle protects them from the excesses of government.
When was the last time an armed standoff ended with the lone rifleman victorious? Remember Waco - when the government needs bigger guns than you, they can get them very very quickly and use them in a very arbitrary fashion.
Guns do not protect you from an abusive governmnent, unless you happen to own a better variant of the M-1 tank than they do.
The control of information is the real battle ground. Government and corporations have most Americans truly hypnotized. This subtle form of control is very effective.
One thing people don't realize about "The Right to Bear Arms" is that this is not only to protect yourself from criminals but also from the government.
The American government generally controls through propoganda, not force. When they do resort to force, they have much larger guns than you will ever have, and more skilled people using them.
When people have free access to firearms, they use them.
Just ask your self the last time you heard of a school shooting in Canada.
Most Americans are mislead into thinking owning a gun protects them from aggresive government. Unfortunately, the American government rules by propoganda. not by force. Its a much more subtle and effective means of control, and completely bypasses the gun nuts.
I didn't say consumers of porn were all killers, I was simply quoting someone who said all killers were consumers of porn.
There is a not so subtle difference.
If a child can access X-rated web sites, that
reflects on the child's parents more than on society as a whole.
The age-old libertarian fallacy rearing its ugly head once more.
By this logic there are some very bad parents in Colorado. They should have been watching their children more closely I suppose. Its the parents fault they weren't wearing flak jackets.
Young people are more harmed by guilt that is instilled by a repressive Ministry of Information, than they are by viewing nonviolent sexual or erotic imagery.
Nice, meaningless, unsubstantiated rhetoric.
Let me just leave you with a quote from Ted Bundy:
". . . I've met a lot of men who were motivated to commit violence just like me. And without exception,every one of them was deeply involved in pornography . . . "
If you check your recent history, you will find that this kind of senseless mass-violence would appear to be on the rise everywhere.
No. Incidences of children taking guns to school and using them is on the rise in only one nation - the United States.
The notion of metal detectors and entrance-door frisks at school would be considered absurd in most industrialized nations.
Your post assumes that the right to bear firearms is a fundamental human right. In the United States this is true. In other nations it is not.
Enjoy your freedom.
Enjoy paying for the largest prison system per capita in the world.
Enjoy having a government controlled by lobby groups such as the NRA.
Enjoy having your children go to a school where a disgruntled teen is going to use them for target practice.
The fact that the citizens of the United States have not seen fit to rescind the Second Amendment in the 212 years of the American Republic should tell you something: namely, that we don't see the need to remove it. . ..
Or that the NRA lobbyists have a strangle hold on legislators.
The Gun Lobby is up there with the Milk Producers in the Hall of Lobbying Fame. It shouldn't shock any American to know this, but don't insult me by hinting that it is the popular will that firearms should be distributed (near) freely.
So I guess what I am saying is that you should either decide that the government knows whats best and should have strict control and licensing of all dangerous behavior (like free speech and firearm ownership), or you should decide that the
individual knows best and minimize governmental controls wherever possible
Then in this case we must obviously conclude that government knows best, as the wide-scale distribution of firearms has been a social cataclysm for the United States. If the amending parties could see the damage done, there would have been substantial alterations to the Constitution.
In fact, this type of "Constitutional Review" was provided for and encouraged - the founding fathers stipulated that the Constitution should be reviewed and amended regularly. We failed to follow their advice. Rather we would assume that 18th century rules apply to the 20th century.
If Slashdot polls are any indication, most Slashdot users are males in their early to mid twenties. In other words, the prime consumers of porn. You should take any advice they give you regarding censorship with a grain of salt.
Most users here have no idea what it means to raise a child. Here's a small hint - you cannot watch everything that a child does, or police all of their actions. That is why there are general standards on the distribution of adult print materials in every industrialized nation. This notion of parental accountability and responsibility can realistically only go so far. Even the most anal-retentive parents must leave their children to the whims of society for part of the day.
Once most Slashdot users come to have children, they'll realize that their "maybe the parents should get involved" rhetoric is quite unrealistic.
An ideal solution for some people is to run NT on their desks with an X-server. I used to do this at work- I could open up xterms to a BSD box whenever I needed them, and had NT there for client-side stuff like web surfing.
Better borwsers for linux would solve this problem, but I don't see major browser vendors focusing too much on linux (compared to nt,95/98 and Mac) for the foreseeable future.
I wonder if these smaller OSs would be more appropriate for consumer devices.
I am not sure if PicoBSD is operational at this point. Is there a linux parallel?
Some of my friends recommend doing a complete reinstall for a major version upgrade.
Any thoughts? Should RH 6.0 upgrade gracefully on a 5.2 system?