Not that they would (would they?) but MS has enough money to pay some decent bands to make some CC BY-SA (copyleft type) music and allow that to be shared. Freely.
That would be one way to play hardball with the music boys.
"Oh, that's clever. I guess we just need a load of CC-licensed artists to form some kind of Association and pool their resources. I look forward to the first case being filed!"
Just what I was thinking...
1. Release loads of stuff CC BY-SA.
2. Wait for copies to be made via zune.
3. ??? - wait, I got it. Sue!
4. Profit!
Is this the first ever slashdot business model where # 3 has been reasonably filled in?
"You didn't copy the book, so you didn't violate the copyright. The company you bought it from is guilty/liable, not you. Similarly, these grannies didn't copy the CDs they bought, so I don't see how they violated anyone's copyright."
In my country, the word is that they have made it illegal to possess such CDs and DVDs and there are large fines and jail terms to go along with it.
I think this is old news or at least a variation on such. I have heard of action in this field for years.
"Market forces should reward success in the face of risk, if that's what's beneficial to the public."
Fine, but copyrights and patents are not market forces. So why can't the market solve the problem? Why does it need government intervention? (Well, they are market forces in a way, they are government interventions in the market, making the market non-free.)
"The latest blight on this landscape exists in the form of software patents, but there are others - for instance, the extension of the copyright."
Ah, but when you have patents or copyrights, you have, by definition, government intervention in the markets, specifically, the granting of monopolies on certain things, and not free markets at all. Can't the free market find a better solution to the problem than these government granted monopolies?
"So if you want a chance to put a stop to this one of the biggest things you can do, other than refusing to buy RIAA music and encouraging others to do the same (they can blame it on copyright infringement if they want, doesn't matter if their member labes get no money, they go out of business) is to encourage your representatives to get behind tort reform, and to support any that do."
You know, I am not necessarily against tort reform, and it might help in this situation, but my take is that this is mainly caused by the inclusion of statutory damages in the copyright law. If the copyright holders had to prove damages, and could only collect those damages in civil court, the game would be a whole lot different don't you think?
Truly though, there is no backup solution for the home/small office user that I have found that makes me happy once data grows beyond what will fit on a single CD or DVD.
For those who can fit their data onto a CD or DVD though, I found a nice little script that can use either afio or tar to do the lifting. Those places do an overnight run every working day.
I have had to recover deleted data at one sight and everyone was happy.
I don't like backing up to hard disks. I want something that can be taken offsite and multiple copies kept.
Something else I am just in the middle of doing now is an overnight rsync run from multiple boxes (both linux and win xp) to an rsync server in another building a block away over an ssh tunnel. I am still in the testing phase for that and we are only doing key data, but it looks OK so far. I would prefer the second site was further away, but it is better than what we had before.
If it is doing it, it is doing it with vlans and not seperate ethernet interfaces. I will look into it further.
In any case, does anyone know of a small, low power box with the multiple ethernet interfaces I was asking about? (Or a good way to go about building one from easily available components?)
Just for the record, since it seems that everyone has taken it wrong:
I was asking about four ethernet interfaces (that is, you would see eth0, eth1, eth2, and eth3 if the box was running linux) not two interfaces with multiple ethernet ports on the internal interface. I am already running a wrt54g. (Am am not sure whish you are referring to.)
"When they tacked this onto the license it ceased being GPL."
" GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
Version 2, June 1991
Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc.,
51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA
Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies
of this license document, but changing it is not allowed."
I have not read the new license, but they are not by any chance violating the Free Software Foundation's copyrights, are they?
"People who aren't white can absolutely be racist."
That is not a point I considered as being in play. I was trying to get at the heart of how racism is defined. For a long time, I equated racism with racial discrimination. In my adult years, I heard a different definition. The parent post had, to my mind (at least initially) a similar take and so my question/comment/offer.
I do not feel you actually addressed the issue.
Perhaps you would care to go back and re-read my post and its parent post and comment again.
Is there a difference between racial discrimination and racism? If so, what is it?
"Being that white people are the majority of the electorate, official conduct on the part of elected officials (police chiefs, city councilmen, etc) and their subordinates isn't racism when it's directed against white people.
It's abusive, it's corrupt, it's dishonerable but it's not racism."
If that is indeed not an overly simplistic take on racism, tell that to the people of the Bahamas. If I get you right, and it is not the first time I have heard that view put forth, in the Bahamas these days, only blacks can be guilty of racism. I seriously doubt that all of the black Bahamians would agree with that. (I am open to more discussion around this if we can manage it semi calmly as I know it is a very sensitive subject. BTW, I am what would be thought of as a white Bahamian and I would not argue with that in most instances.)
Actually, I just re-read your post before submitting and take back what I said. (I am leaving it in to see if you want to have the discussion anyway. The view I have heard put forth before, which seems to be close to the one you put forth is that, in the US, blacks, not being in political power, cannot be guilty of racism.
If they suppy source with the product or binary, end of story. (You are right that it's not necessarily so in this case.)
If they only give the written offer for source and the upstream gets wind of the situation, they can request source under the "any third party" bit from 3.b. (It is less likely that you are right in this case, but it is still possible if the upstream people never get wind of the transaction.)
Slashdot Mirror
Not that they would (would they?) but MS has enough money to pay some decent bands to make some CC BY-SA (copyleft type) music and allow that to be shared. Freely.
That would be one way to play hardball with the music boys.
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/258456
Novel writing as performance art?
"Oh, that's clever. I guess we just need a load of CC-licensed artists to form some kind of Association and pool their resources. I look forward to the first case being filed!"
p hp?topic_id=33654&forum=157&post_id=528358#forumpo st528358
Just what I was thinking...
1. Release loads of stuff CC BY-SA.
2. Wait for copies to be made via zune.
3. ??? - wait, I got it. Sue!
4. Profit!
Is this the first ever slashdot business model where # 3 has been reasonably filled in?
all the best,
drew
http://www.nanowrimo.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.
Novel Writing as performance art?
ps. if anyone has an account and can see all of my old posts, can you send me my other lauded business model?
"You didn't copy the book, so you didn't violate the copyright. The company you bought it from is guilty/liable, not you. Similarly, these grannies didn't copy the CDs they bought, so I don't see how they violated anyone's copyright."
In my country, the word is that they have made it illegal to possess such CDs and DVDs and there are large fines and jail terms to go along with it.
I think this is old news or at least a variation on such. I have heard of action in this field for years.
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/258456
"$15,000 software?"
My cousin used to be into this.
This is a name I remember:
http://www.melcousa.com/
That is the hardware. I don't remember what software he used to use.
Last I heard, this is what he is up to these days:
http://www.nippersbar.com/ - If anyone is interested in more details, look for a way to get in touch with Johnny.
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
"Market forces should reward success in the face of risk, if that's what's beneficial to the public."
Fine, but copyrights and patents are not market forces. So why can't the market solve the problem? Why does it need government intervention? (Well, they are market forces in a way, they are government interventions in the market, making the market non-free.)
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
"The latest blight on this landscape exists in the form of software patents, but there are others - for instance, the extension of the copyright."
Ah, but when you have patents or copyrights, you have, by definition, government intervention in the markets, specifically, the granting of monopolies on certain things, and not free markets at all. Can't the free market find a better solution to the problem than these government granted monopolies?
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
"So if you want a chance to put a stop to this one of the biggest things you can do, other than refusing to buy RIAA music and encouraging others to do the same (they can blame it on copyright infringement if they want, doesn't matter if their member labes get no money, they go out of business) is to encourage your representatives to get behind tort reform, and to support any that do."
You know, I am not necessarily against tort reform, and it might help in this situation, but my take is that this is mainly caused by the inclusion of statutory damages in the copyright law. If the copyright holders had to prove damages, and could only collect those damages in civil court, the game would be a whole lot different don't you think?
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
"'The new MySpace music store will feature vanilla MP3 downloads'
I guess that means Non-DRM'ed MP3..."
Nope, they left out the key word: ice...
Brilliant!
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/85937
I keep thinking of getting one of these:
2 E16811219014
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N8
for such situations.
Truly though, there is no backup solution for the home/small office user that I have found that makes me happy once data grows beyond what will fit on a single CD or DVD.
For those who can fit their data onto a CD or DVD though, I found a nice little script that can use either afio or tar to do the lifting. Those places do an overnight run every working day.
I have had to recover deleted data at one sight and everyone was happy.
I don't like backing up to hard disks. I want something that can be taken offsite and multiple copies kept.
Something else I am just in the middle of doing now is an overnight rsync run from multiple boxes (both linux and win xp) to an rsync server in another building a block away over an ssh tunnel. I am still in the testing phase for that and we are only doing key data, but it looks OK so far. I would prefer the second site was further away, but it is better than what we had before.
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
From the site:
# head-1f582c0ad21a03a769e00c345743d6cf85ba878f
http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Configuration
If it is doing it, it is doing it with vlans and not seperate ethernet interfaces. I will look into it further.
In any case, does anyone know of a small, low power box with the multiple ethernet interfaces I was asking about? (Or a good way to go about building one from easily available components?)
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
I may just be being dense today.
I have a wrt54g. It has and external interface and 4 ports that are on the internal interface and the wireless is also on the internal interface.
So, I have (in linux terms) eth0 connected to the net (24.244.xxx.xxx) and eth1 (192.168.100.1) on the inside. eth1 has multiple ports.
I am asking for something that can do:
eth0 (24.244.xxx.xxx)
eth1 (192.168.100.1)
eth2 (192.168.101.1)
eth3 (192.168.102.1)
at a minimum.
Someone else indicates that the wrt54g can do what I want. I need to investigate more.
Is my explanation clear now at least? Or should I try again to explain?
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
That is what I am running right now, but stock.
So, you are saying that I can have:
192.168.110.0/24 on one
192.168.111.0/24 on two
192.168.112.0/24 on three
192.168.113.0/24 on four
???
Can it really do that? If so, cool.
And then I guess, can the wireless be 192.168.114.0/24 ?
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
Just for the record, since it seems that everyone has taken it wrong:
I was asking about four ethernet interfaces (that is, you would see eth0, eth1, eth2, and eth3 if the box was running linux) not two interfaces with multiple ethernet ports on the internal interface. I am already running a wrt54g. (Am am not sure whish you are referring to.)
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
Thanks for the links.
Are you sure they have multiple (more than two) ethernet interfaces and not just two with multiple ports on the internal interface?
all the best,
drew
Looks like multiple ports but not interfaces. Am I missing something?
all the best,
drew
I was not asking about multiple internal ehternet ports but rather multiple ethernet interfaces.
all the best,
drew
does anyone know of such small, low powered boxes with four distinct ethernet interfaces?
one for outside, one for inside, one for dmz and one for wireless.
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/user/17145
"When they tacked this onto the license it ceased being GPL."
" GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
Version 2, June 1991
Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc.,
51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA
Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies
of this license document, but changing it is not allowed."
I have not read the new license, but they are not by any chance violating the Free Software Foundation's copyrights, are they?
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
"People who aren't white can absolutely be racist."
That is not a point I considered as being in play. I was trying to get at the heart of how racism is defined. For a long time, I equated racism with racial discrimination. In my adult years, I heard a different definition. The parent post had, to my mind (at least initially) a similar take and so my question/comment/offer.
I do not feel you actually addressed the issue.
Perhaps you would care to go back and re-read my post and its parent post and comment again.
Is there a difference between racial discrimination and racism? If so, what is it?
(Those questions may or may not help.)
all the best,
drew
"Being that white people are the majority of the electorate, official conduct on the part of elected officials (police chiefs, city councilmen, etc) and their subordinates isn't racism when it's directed against white people.
It's abusive, it's corrupt, it's dishonerable but it's not racism."
If that is indeed not an overly simplistic take on racism, tell that to the people of the Bahamas. If I get you right, and it is not the first time I have heard that view put forth, in the Bahamas these days, only blacks can be guilty of racism. I seriously doubt that all of the black Bahamians would agree with that. (I am open to more discussion around this if we can manage it semi calmly as I know it is a very sensitive subject. BTW, I am what would be thought of as a white Bahamian and I would not argue with that in most instances.)
Actually, I just re-read your post before submitting and take back what I said. (I am leaving it in to see if you want to have the discussion anyway. The view I have heard put forth before, which seems to be close to the one you put forth is that, in the US, blacks, not being in political power, cannot be guilty of racism.
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
"Remember, remember the fifth of November..."
h amian_Novel_raw_and_unedited/tings_raw.txt
Guy, is that you? {GRIN}
Check out the entry for the fifth of November at this link:
http://www.archive.org/download/Tings__Anuddah_Ba
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
There is also the modded software as a service issue.
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
I don't think that is quite it.
If they suppy source with the product or binary, end of story. (You are right that it's not necessarily so in this case.)
If they only give the written offer for source and the upstream gets wind of the situation, they can request source under the "any third party" bit from 3.b. (It is less likely that you are right in this case, but it is still possible if the upstream people never get wind of the transaction.)
Yes? No?
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
You may be right, I am too tired now to actually think this through.
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)
"I'm a devoted linux user, but let me disagree with one point... "just a driver layer." IMHO, device support is THE unsolvable problem for Linux."
"Win2k/XP is mostly just a driver layer and gaming bios these days."
That was the quote concerning a driver layer. No linux in sight there.
all the best,
drew
(da idea man)