I wasted thirty precious minutes of my life trying to jump through hoops for them so I could sign up with a Canadian credit card. At the time I was trying to sign up for a PayPal acct. to purchase webhosting. In the end I found a host that didn't require me to pay with fucking paypal. Get the idea?
Maybe I'm missing something, but the average windows users this appears to be targeting would seem to be the people least likely to use it. Most of your home users are still running the same version of windows that was on their gateway/dell when they bought it. As far as they're concerned, windows came free with the computer (most people don't know about 'windows tax' and whatnot). So, for the most part, telling them that they can get this great product which looks exactly like what they use now, behaves almost identically, and only costs them $30 (or $40 to have source code that they'll never use) seems rather pointless. Why would anyone pay money for something they already have? And those of us who use linux already aren't likely to dole out $40 for the source to a customized window manager. How are we to convince people to switch to free software when we're charging them for it?
Just out of curiosity, what are some of the problems you've had with PPPoE? I've heard this before, but never experienced it myself. I used Sympatico DSL for just over a year and never had any problems (other than the two weeks of me not being able to connect it took them to figure out that they never turned on my line at their end). I used the Sympatico connection manager from win98 and Roaring Penguin PPPoE with Redhat 7.something. Other than the occasional go-to-use-the-computer-and-my-connection-has-been- dropped-by-the-provider issue, PPPoE worked flawlessly. Of course, now that I moved and ended up out of range of the CO, I had to switch to Cogeco cable, which is damn fast and so easy a monkey could set it up. Anyways, that's all...
Good ploy, guys. Let it out of the bag that you're moving to a subscription model and watch as the posts pile up on the best way to go about it. Loads of free market research. So I'll bite. Very few people will pay for a 'no ads' service when there are a million ways to block the ads already. Plus, your ads are good. They're targetted. People WILL pay for added value. You need a way to add something extra special for your paying customers. The problem I see here is this: slashdot could probably make enough money between subscription and ad banners (some of us actually click them) to keep itself afloat. But how much of VA Linux / Software / whatever-they're-called-these-days can you support? Is anything else in the company making money?
just went and requested march 26th off (I'm about 2 hours from To.) this should definitely be worth the trip. if I make it, I'll post all about it. and if they reject my story on it, we'll just commandeer a thread in a jon katz story;)
head east, my friend. out west it seems like nobody has any sort of accent, other than the whole 'eh' thing. go to the maritimes. the newfies are definitely the worst (how she goan thar, eh bye?)
p.s. - if you can read that, you're from newfoundland.
p.p.s. - next time I hear an american make fun of the way people talk in "Tranna" (I think that means Toronto) I'm gonna snap
The court also said the wiretapping law did not apply because police did not intercept Proetto's messages as he was sending them, but after the fact.
The only loophole I can see (once again, IANAL) is that it's possible that she was only logging chats after the police requested it. I could see THAT falling under wiretap laws, but not if she just handed over the logs. Either way, (emotionally-biased opinion on the way) I hope they nail the bugger to the wall. Pedophilia == bad.
Actually, this doesn't seem to fall under 4th ammendment either. If the article is correct (we all know that the media is unerringly accurate at all times) the IM logs were turned over to police by the 15 year old girl. Those logs are not his property to be searched and / or seized. I realize this may seem to fall into a grey area, and IANAL, but it would seem that he has no right to cry 4th ammendment on this - he was not illegally searched, and nothing of his was taken without his consent. If he had sent a threatening letter in the mail and she had turned that over to police, would he then be able to say it was his letter and they had no right to take it without his permission? I doubt it.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but if she were to just hand over the logs to the police when they ask for them, they don't need a warrant. So she may have just turned the logs over. The real question is whether she only logged her chats after the police asked her to. That (to me) would constitute a wiretap.
The court also said the wiretapping law did not apply because police did not intercept Proetto's messages as he was sending them, but after the fact.
Looks to me like logs. I'd agree that wiretapping laws wouldn't apply (seems more like an answering machine tape). Does anybody know the admissability of log files? Is it possible that she only turned on file logging after the police requested it? Would that then fall under wiretapping, as she was only recording based on police request?
that patent would apparently only cover the delivery of music over the transmission medium. SightSound's patent is on the sale of music over the lines. Seems odd that you can patent a way of selling something though - I thought business methods were off limits, or am I just stupid?
it's quite possible that from the first time Bill said "can't strip it down, it's all integrated" he set his team to work on actually integrating everything into one big lump. the source that they have now and the source that used to be may be entirely different. he may have seen this ploy coming, and, now that he's prepared, may be totally willing to turn over the source.
Ahh well. Down with the ship I go, as I watch my karma being obliterated.
Things seem to be getting colder here. I can almost see my breath, and I'm indoors. I would say most winter activities could be called sports, with the possible exceptions of figure skating (more of a hobby, really), ice dance (pass time) and curling (shuffleboard on ice?). Hockey, however, is the sole reason for watching the winter games. Go Canada!!!!!!
Still haven't seen any terrorists lurking around, but I wasn't really expecting to see any. I seem to recall a half dozen other instances since 9-11-01 when we were 'warned' of possible terrorist attacks, all to no avail.
Oh, and as for the mod points wasted on this thread, do you suppose Katz has the same unlimited mod points that the editors have?
I think you misunderstand me. I was simply stating that instead of the proposed "don't post anything at all" we could just post off-topic. Then I rambled on about the weather and such. I do, however, agree with pretty much all of the points raised thus far in this thread. Katz is a twit, and we shouldn't have to deal with him. Or at least give him his own topic so I can block it in my prefs and never have to see his drivel again.
or, we could all just post extremely off-topic and completely ignore what katz wrote about.
So, how's the weather where you are today? I'm in Buffalo, NY and it's pretty dreary. Damn windy (I can hear it whistling outside my office window) and overcast. Now, I'm not a big warm weather fan, but I'd rather have some snow, since I'm going skiing this weekend. Hopefully there's still some snow out in resort country. That's all for now, since I should get some work done. I'll post back to this thread later on if I have anything else to say. If anyone has any inane off-topic garbage to spew, post here.
Probably not. First off, there are actually warnings in the manual about prolonged use of the vibrating controllers. Secondly, I don't think they can be held liable if they didn't manufacture the product themselves. They just license the technology, so they can't be accountable for somebody else building one that shakes too hard, or what-not. And even if they were liable for it, the controllers that caused the injuries may not have been licensed (this article doesn't say what console the child was using, though the console in the picture looks like a dreamcast)
If they push to get this through, I say we get Al Gore to nail them for using 'his' internet to build their technology without paying licensing fees or royalties.
Oh, and be sure to mod me 'redundant' for this comment, too.
dear scientists,
we would like to praise you for your recent advancements in producing artificial uteruses (uteri?). however, we feel you should now turn your attention to a much more urgent and pressing matter: the cloning of vaginas. thank you for your attention to this matter.
sincerely,
men.
the thing is, I want to be able to use pppoe. would the halted firewall / bridge be able to do that? I'm thinking this could turn into a fun project with some old spare 486's.
that's what I thought too. not sure how complicated it could get, but I was supposing you could have one normal firewall handling your dhcp/pppoe (for us dsl users) and then the halted firewall behind that. it's settings would remain static, so even if someone got through the first firewall and got root, they would have nowhere to go from there but to the runlevel 0 box.
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yeah, but nobody expects the trolls to pay for it in the first place. so all you're doing is reducing revenue from your one sure source.
You could always keep it on sourceforge, just for the whole irony thing. "How to steal money from OSDN. Hosted by the good folk at...um...OSDN..."
I wasted thirty precious minutes of my life trying to jump through hoops for them so I could sign up with a Canadian credit card. At the time I was trying to sign up for a PayPal acct. to purchase webhosting. In the end I found a host that didn't require me to pay with fucking paypal. Get the idea?
It'll be more like jaywalking than speeding. Speed limits are actually enforced on occasion.
Maybe I'm missing something, but the average windows users this appears to be targeting would seem to be the people least likely to use it. Most of your home users are still running the same version of windows that was on their gateway/dell when they bought it. As far as they're concerned, windows came free with the computer (most people don't know about 'windows tax' and whatnot). So, for the most part, telling them that they can get this great product which looks exactly like what they use now, behaves almost identically, and only costs them $30 (or $40 to have source code that they'll never use) seems rather pointless. Why would anyone pay money for something they already have? And those of us who use linux already aren't likely to dole out $40 for the source to a customized window manager. How are we to convince people to switch to free software when we're charging them for it?
PPPoE is just too much hassle.
- dropped-by-the-provider issue, PPPoE worked flawlessly. Of course, now that I moved and ended up out of range of the CO, I had to switch to Cogeco cable, which is damn fast and so easy a monkey could set it up. Anyways, that's all...
Just out of curiosity, what are some of the problems you've had with PPPoE? I've heard this before, but never experienced it myself. I used Sympatico DSL for just over a year and never had any problems (other than the two weeks of me not being able to connect it took them to figure out that they never turned on my line at their end). I used the Sympatico connection manager from win98 and Roaring Penguin PPPoE with Redhat 7.something. Other than the occasional go-to-use-the-computer-and-my-connection-has-been
Good ploy, guys. Let it out of the bag that you're moving to a subscription model and watch as the posts pile up on the best way to go about it. Loads of free market research. So I'll bite. Very few people will pay for a 'no ads' service when there are a million ways to block the ads already. Plus, your ads are good. They're targetted. People WILL pay for added value. You need a way to add something extra special for your paying customers. The problem I see here is this: slashdot could probably make enough money between subscription and ad banners (some of us actually click them) to keep itself afloat. But how much of VA Linux / Software / whatever-they're-called-these-days can you support? Is anything else in the company making money?
just went and requested march 26th off (I'm about 2 hours from To.) ;)
this should definitely be worth the trip. if I make it, I'll post all about it. and if they reject my story on it, we'll just commandeer a thread in a jon katz story
head east, my friend. out west it seems like nobody has any sort of accent, other than the whole 'eh' thing. go to the maritimes. the newfies are definitely the worst (how she goan thar, eh bye?)
p.s. - if you can read that, you're from newfoundland.
p.p.s. - next time I hear an american make fun of the way people talk in "Tranna" (I think that means Toronto) I'm gonna snap
No, no you weren't. I have issues with that as well.
Actually, this doesn't seem to fall under 4th ammendment either. If the article is correct (we all know that the media is unerringly accurate at all times) the IM logs were turned over to police by the 15 year old girl. Those logs are not his property to be searched and / or seized. I realize this may seem to fall into a grey area, and IANAL, but it would seem that he has no right to cry 4th ammendment on this - he was not illegally searched, and nothing of his was taken without his consent. If he had sent a threatening letter in the mail and she had turned that over to police, would he then be able to say it was his letter and they had no right to take it without his permission? I doubt it.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but if she were to just hand over the logs to the police when they ask for them, they don't need a warrant. So she may have just turned the logs over. The real question is whether she only logged her chats after the police asked her to. That (to me) would constitute a wiretap.
Looks to me like logs. I'd agree that wiretapping laws wouldn't apply (seems more like an answering machine tape). Does anybody know the admissability of log files? Is it possible that she only turned on file logging after the police requested it? Would that then fall under wiretapping, as she was only recording based on police request?
Does anyone have any evidence of any sort of steganography being used by the Chinese?
;)
Wouldn't be very good steganography if we had evidence, now would it?
that patent would apparently only cover the delivery of music over the transmission medium. SightSound's patent is on the sale of music over the lines. Seems odd that you can patent a way of selling something though - I thought business methods were off limits, or am I just stupid?
it's quite possible that from the first time Bill said "can't strip it down, it's all integrated" he set his team to work on actually integrating everything into one big lump. the source that they have now and the source that used to be may be entirely different. he may have seen this ploy coming, and, now that he's prepared, may be totally willing to turn over the source.
Ahh well. Down with the ship I go, as I watch my karma being obliterated.
Things seem to be getting colder here. I can almost see my breath, and I'm indoors. I would say most winter activities could be called sports, with the possible exceptions of figure skating (more of a hobby, really), ice dance (pass time) and curling (shuffleboard on ice?). Hockey, however, is the sole reason for watching the winter games. Go Canada!!!!!!
Still haven't seen any terrorists lurking around, but I wasn't really expecting to see any. I seem to recall a half dozen other instances since 9-11-01 when we were 'warned' of possible terrorist attacks, all to no avail.
Oh, and as for the mod points wasted on this thread, do you suppose Katz has the same unlimited mod points that the editors have?
I think you misunderstand me. I was simply stating that instead of the proposed "don't post anything at all" we could just post off-topic. Then I rambled on about the weather and such. I do, however, agree with pretty much all of the points raised thus far in this thread. Katz is a twit, and we shouldn't have to deal with him. Or at least give him his own topic so I can block it in my prefs and never have to see his drivel again.
or, we could all just post extremely off-topic and completely ignore what katz wrote about.
So, how's the weather where you are today? I'm in Buffalo, NY and it's pretty dreary. Damn windy (I can hear it whistling outside my office window) and overcast. Now, I'm not a big warm weather fan, but I'd rather have some snow, since I'm going skiing this weekend. Hopefully there's still some snow out in resort country. That's all for now, since I should get some work done. I'll post back to this thread later on if I have anything else to say. If anyone has any inane off-topic garbage to spew, post here.
Probably not. First off, there are actually warnings in the manual about prolonged use of the vibrating controllers. Secondly, I don't think they can be held liable if they didn't manufacture the product themselves. They just license the technology, so they can't be accountable for somebody else building one that shakes too hard, or what-not. And even if they were liable for it, the controllers that caused the injuries may not have been licensed (this article doesn't say what console the child was using, though the console in the picture looks like a dreamcast)
If they push to get this through, I say we get Al Gore to nail them for using 'his' internet to build their technology without paying licensing fees or royalties.
Oh, and be sure to mod me 'redundant' for this comment, too.
dear scientists,
we would like to praise you for your recent advancements in producing artificial uteruses (uteri?). however, we feel you should now turn your attention to a much more urgent and pressing matter: the cloning of vaginas. thank you for your attention to this matter.
sincerely,
men.
the thing is, I want to be able to use pppoe. would the halted firewall / bridge be able to do that? I'm thinking this could turn into a fun project with some old spare 486's.
that's what I thought too. not sure how complicated it could get, but I was supposing you could have one normal firewall handling your dhcp/pppoe (for us dsl users) and then the halted firewall behind that. it's settings would remain static, so even if someone got through the first firewall and got root, they would have nowhere to go from there but to the runlevel 0 box.