What fix? What guessing? Two congressmen have sons on active duty in Iraq, a third has an active duty son not in Iraq. This isn't "guessing" it's a factual rebuttal of Moore's oft-repeated claim that children of Congress aren't paying the price for Congress' support of the war.
Senator Tim Johnson's son is in the 101st Airborne and served in Iraq.
Representative Duncan Hunter's son is a Marine and was in Iraq as of February 2004.
Senator Joe Biden's is on active duty, but not in Iraq.
Outside of Congress: John Ashcroft's son is active duty Navy, deployed to the Persian Gulf
Rep Kennedy - the guy Moore mocks in the movie? His nephew is active duty, but Moore edited that out of the final movie.
So, excluding nephews and Ashcroft's son, and excluding the guy who wasn't deployed to Iraq, that gives us 2 sons out of 535 congressmen, a ratio of 268 to 1. According to the cenus bureau, 104,705,000 households in the United States in 2000. If we guess that 300,000 service men and women have been deployed to Iraq and different times, the ratio of households to Iraqi vets is 104,705,000 to 300,000. This reduces to a ratio of 349 to 1.
Thus, children of congressmen are over-represented in Iraq.
In any case, I would dispute the idea that Bush would "have to revive the draft" - it's far more likely that he'd be forced to lower his expectations instead.
Similarly, I think the odds of a President Kerry suddenly getting tens of thousands of French and German troops into Iraq to be long at best and more likely wishful. Neither the French nor the Germans have demonstrated any real ability to deploy a large number of troops at all, let alone for an extended trip to the desert. Plus there's the fact that France has stated that they don't care who the President is, they won't deploy troops to Iraq.
There are some Democrats hoping Kerry will lose so that Hillary can run in 2008; likewise there are some Republicans who want Kerry to win so they can avoid having to deal with a Madam President in 2009.
Who is trying to frighten college kids with stories of how they will be drafted if Bush is re-elected? The democrats.
Who would freak if the draft was reinstated, because it would require years to reactivate old training bases and divert seasoned combat troops back state side to teach the draftees? The Pentagon.
Who actually wants a draft? Nobody, except, possibly, a few radical leftists who want to be able to say "we told you so".
Where the median wait for radiation therapy is 6 weeks and people regularly give up waiting years for replacement hips or other major care and so fly to the USA to pay for it themselves?
1. If you can't tell if you're in Vietnam or Cambodia how does that lead to claiming that your memory is "seared" with the knowledge that you were illegally in Cambodia?
2. Every single one of Kerry's officers have denied that Kerry was *ever* in Cambodia. If you have some sort of proof that his was, you should bring it out.
3. Which SBVFT guys were cheering Kerry 30 years ago? John O'Neill has been attacking Kerry for thing he said about Viet Nam since the Dick Cavett show in 1971.
4. You are in denial over that Silver Star and the combat V. Silver Stars are *not* issued with "combat V's". Period. Ever. Not Once. So why is the Kerry campaign claiming that Kerry has one?
5. The Kerry campaign has publicly retracted the "Christmas in Cambodia" story and was also force, by Navy records, to stop claiming that he was commanding his Swift Boat on days when, in fact, someone else was.
I notice you don't address the fact that the Kerry campaign has been forced to remove items from their "service record" and that Kerry has been forced to admit that he lied on the Senate floor about being in Cambodia
Also, I notice that you don't mention that the Navy has opened an investigation into the way Kerry's Bronze Star was reissued 3 times with 3 different citations and that he claimed his Silver Star had a "combat V" when such thing does not exist.
That pretty much nails down who was telling the truth and who the Navy records agree with, doesn't it?
France to defy the UN sanctions against Iraq by paying off UN officials and helping a murderous dictator, but removing that murderous dictator from power is a bad thing?
Basically, you've got Kerry with 13 guys who agree with him versus every other man in his unit, including his entire chain of command - about 250 men total. Democrats, Republicans, but all men who absolutely despise Kerry for the way he behaved in Viet Nam.
Sorry, but I can't believe Rove bought off 250 men - especially when they have forced Kerry to admit that he lied about one incident and forced him to quietly retract several items from his website - items like taking credit for other commanders' combat missions.
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That explains why museums are full of puddles where the roman vases used to be.
You're spreading a myth.
It's an amorphous solid, which is different.
What fix? What guessing? Two congressmen have sons on active duty in Iraq, a third has an active duty son not in Iraq. This isn't "guessing" it's a factual rebuttal of Moore's oft-repeated claim that children of Congress aren't paying the price for Congress' support of the war.
fifteen hundred troops to Afghanistan, right?
And Germany sent, whoa, two thousand.
Yeah, that'll impress the hell out of the locals. Between the two of them, combined, they sent less than five percent the number of troops the US did.
Senator Tim Johnson's son is in the 101st Airborne and served in Iraq.
Representative Duncan Hunter's son is a Marine and was in Iraq as of February 2004.
Senator Joe Biden's is on active duty, but not in Iraq.
Outside of Congress: John Ashcroft's son is active duty Navy, deployed to the Persian Gulf
Rep Kennedy - the guy Moore mocks in the movie? His nephew is active duty, but Moore edited that out of the final movie.
So, excluding nephews and Ashcroft's son, and excluding the guy who wasn't deployed to Iraq, that gives us 2 sons out of 535 congressmen, a ratio of 268 to 1. According to the cenus bureau, 104,705,000 households in the United States in 2000. If we guess that 300,000 service men and women have been deployed to Iraq and different times, the ratio of households to Iraqi vets is 104,705,000 to 300,000. This reduces to a ratio of 349 to 1.
Thus, children of congressmen are over-represented in Iraq.
Didn't Kerry promise to replace American troops in Iraq with troops provided by a new coalition?
that hoax quite seriously.
In any case, I would dispute the idea that Bush would "have to revive the draft" - it's far more likely that he'd be forced to lower his expectations instead.
Similarly, I think the odds of a President Kerry suddenly getting tens of thousands of French and German troops into Iraq to be long at best and more likely wishful. Neither the French nor the Germans have demonstrated any real ability to deploy a large number of troops at all, let alone for an extended trip to the desert. Plus there's the fact that France has stated that they don't care who the President is, they won't deploy troops to Iraq.
There are some Democrats hoping Kerry will lose so that Hillary can run in 2008; likewise there are some Republicans who want Kerry to win so they can avoid having to deal with a Madam President in 2009.
Who is trying to frighten college kids with stories of how they will be drafted if Bush is re-elected? The democrats.
Who would freak if the draft was reinstated, because it would require years to reactivate old training bases and divert seasoned combat troops back state side to teach the draftees? The Pentagon.
Who actually wants a draft? Nobody, except, possibly, a few radical leftists who want to be able to say "we told you so".
that the secret plan is to pass those bills and have a fully operating draft by june of this year.
Given how many paniced brothers and sisters of mine received that e-mail, the Republicans did the right thing.
dunno about that. If you're already doing highway speeds and you slam on the brakes, but your motor is still cranking at high speed?
I'm pretty sure your brakes would overheat before you stopped.
braking by itself wouldn't be enough - the brakes would overheat quickly and become useless.
I'm wondering why he didn't shift into neutral.
That explains all the headlines:
...
Doctor shortage cripples Canadas free health care
Broken health care system
Canadian health care deal adds $14 billion to ailing fund Pact
Just because people want something for free, doesn't mean they can actually get it.
Where the median wait for radiation therapy is 6 weeks and people regularly give up waiting years for replacement hips or other major care and so fly to the USA to pay for it themselves?
That sort of health care?
Let me see.
1. If you can't tell if you're in Vietnam or Cambodia how does that lead to claiming that your memory is "seared" with the knowledge that you were illegally in Cambodia?
2. Every single one of Kerry's officers have denied that Kerry was *ever* in Cambodia. If you have some sort of proof that his was, you should bring it out.
3. Which SBVFT guys were cheering Kerry 30 years ago? John O'Neill has been attacking Kerry for thing he said about Viet Nam since the Dick Cavett show in 1971.
4. You are in denial over that Silver Star and the combat V. Silver Stars are *not* issued with "combat V's". Period. Ever. Not Once. So why is the Kerry campaign claiming that Kerry has one?
5. The Kerry campaign has publicly retracted the "Christmas in Cambodia" story and was also force, by Navy records, to stop claiming that he was commanding his Swift Boat on days when, in fact, someone else was.
Wake the hell up.
Point taken - except I have trouble understanding how it's self-destructive.
I notice you don't address the fact that the Kerry campaign has been forced to remove items from their "service record" and that Kerry has been forced to admit that he lied on the Senate floor about being in Cambodia
Also, I notice that you don't mention that the Navy has opened an investigation into the way Kerry's Bronze Star was reissued 3 times with 3 different citations and that he claimed his Silver Star had a "combat V" when such thing does not exist.
That pretty much nails down who was telling the truth and who the Navy records agree with, doesn't it?
Are you trying to say people to stupid to run a spelling checker are smart enough to uncover real censorship?
When do we start?
Sometimes the rating/filtering mechanism makes it hard to follow the conversation.
France to defy the UN sanctions against Iraq by paying off UN officials and helping a murderous dictator, but removing that murderous dictator from power is a bad thing?
Don't signed affadavits count for anything anymore?
Basically, you've got Kerry with 13 guys who agree with him versus every other man in his unit, including his entire chain of command - about 250 men total. Democrats, Republicans, but all men who absolutely despise Kerry for the way he behaved in Viet Nam.
Sorry, but I can't believe Rove bought off 250 men - especially when they have forced Kerry to admit that he lied about one incident and forced him to quietly retract several items from his website - items like taking credit for other commanders' combat missions.
that talks about conflicting eye witness testimony and how many of the men there that day dispute Kerry's account?
Even Mother Jones has asked that Project Censored be put out of our misery.
This site appears to be worthless.