Please stop saying that MIT needs to discipline two consenting adults, and yes, consent must be implied here otherwise society as a whole could not function. Every contract which included an element of power or coercion (goddamn Google+ finally tricked me into getting an account!!!) would have to be invalidated, which is pretty much all of them.
The economy would stop dead in it's tracks. It is simply an untenable position, and I think that deep-down, everyone knows it. It's a product of affluent-white fantasy-land where every annoyance of a female is equated with the holocaust.
Using such a standard of non-responsibility if one has any issues, leaves 50% of women out of decision-making positions, as this is how many are taking some form of psychiatric medication. It's a misogynists wet-dream.
The professor should not be disciplined, and the creepy women should be held to account for her actions every bit as much as the professor.
It's amazing where people find strength once you stop infantilizing them. Some people want to keep woman infantilized because they are easier to control that way.
Oh, and this woman's culture has not prevented her from speaking out. I would say that argument has been duly rebutted. And her concern for "the other victims" is so laughable, that anyone who believes it is not someone with a high degree of wisdom.
Since the FA doesn't mention it, what is his side of the story?
Or is a failure to make comments to biased sources an admission of guilty in violation of legal principal, and not something that would be proffered were the genders reversed?
At his age, what mental effects could the professor be experiencing?
Does the FA mention that?
See, the FA to which you refer leaves out a great deal, and is extremely one-sided. Which is why you like the FA, but this is merely a manifestation of your own personal bias, which is probably pretty obvious, no?
Perhaps the professor was insecure about the fact that he was now very old, and thus no longer attractive to women. This, in turn, caused him to strike up Facebook romances, to cover for this insecurity, and the women, simply because he was a known professor, exploited this insecurity and made him think that they were interested in him?
Dude realizes his days on earth are numbered, goes a little nutty, decides to test his mack with the ladies, and consenting adults, well, they can do that. If requesting naked pictures over the Internet is creepy, than damn-near every human alive is creepy. I've turned to the Internet for naked pictures a million times. Don't act like you haven't. Ohhhh the outrage. The outrage. Every comment begins with "well the professor was wrong to request them..."
The fuck he was. The FUCK he was. The first thing I see when some women leaves a Facebook comment is "I wonder what she looks like naked, and guess what, SO DO YOU you hypocrites.
All of you pervs should be fired. Every goddamn last one of you.
If homelice asks consenting adults for pictures of their hoo-haa, and they send it to him, then it is what it is and it's none of my business. It is not within my purview to judge that interactions between consenting adults, and we have to assume that they can consent for society to function. How would commerce function if we assumed that no cold sign contracts (almost all of which are coerced in some way)? It would be over. Day to day life would grind to a halt.
Only extends to the female, and I don't know what anyone would be honest if they said that this was the case less than 100% of the time.
See, the thing about "compassion", and the reason that it's in such short supply, is that men don't get any, and you tend to get what you give in life.
This was an old man. This are not the normal actions of an old man. What would compel him to do such things? Dementia? Early-stages of Alzheimers? Some past traumatic event in his life. Even perversion is a sign of potential mental deviance, almost none of which is voluntary.
What if she took advantage of him? Old man, young woman, it's not hard to see how he may have been flattered. And his patterns with other women certainly show he had some weird proclivity toward it all. That he was a sucker for younger women. That they could easily make him think they were attracted to him and this somehow elicited a response in him.
But, there is no compassion. None. Men commit suicide 4x more often than women (yet women get treated more often for depression), and this is a large reason why. Women enjoy very benefit of the doubt, and men are held fully accountable for everything that they do, without any sympathy whatsoever for the things that have effected them in their own life.
And people crow about "compassion".
Compassion does not discriminate, and if you do, you're not truly compassionate. Compassion requires that we hold the un-proven guilty as innocent, because it would be cruel to do otherwise. The mob always favors the popular explanation.
And if this situation is one of "power", I would say it's the weakest example that I've personally ever seen. You can always extrapolate some power imbalance if you look hard enough. Frankly, I don't think I should be held to any of the contracts I've signed. I have ADHD and do not read them all. My weaknesses are being exploited to financially enslave me, yet, who speaks out for me? I've been homeless before, and my fear of being homeless again causes me to do all kinds of shit I don't want to do for my employer. Fucker is totally exploiting my fears.
So, she had issues. Well, guess what, nearly half of American women are on some form of psychiatric medication. That's 50% of women who cannot be held accountable for their actions. Take that, potential employers.
And how is it that this woman is from a culture that discourages speaking out, yet, she's been speaking out for over a year. Kind of contradicts that whole claim, eh?
No, no, let me guess, it was the third Tuesday under a full moon when she sent the pictures, clearly, CLEARLY causing her to be more passive and yada yada yada.
Alright. As long as this same extreme, contorted, heavily-clauses, benefit-of-the-doubt is given to everyone but, oh wait, it's not.
And you're all evil for not going along with the thought-control experiment.
Slashdot Mirror
The economy would stop dead in it's tracks. It is simply an untenable position, and I think that deep-down, everyone knows it. It's a product of affluent-white fantasy-land where every annoyance of a female is equated with the holocaust.
Using such a standard of non-responsibility if one has any issues, leaves 50% of women out of decision-making positions, as this is how many are taking some form of psychiatric medication. It's a misogynists wet-dream.
The professor should not be disciplined, and the creepy women should be held to account for her actions every bit as much as the professor.
It's amazing where people find strength once you stop infantilizing them. Some people want to keep woman infantilized because they are easier to control that way.
Oh, and this woman's culture has not prevented her from speaking out. I would say that argument has been duly rebutted. And her concern for "the other victims" is so laughable, that anyone who believes it is not someone with a high degree of wisdom.
Or is a failure to make comments to biased sources an admission of guilty in violation of legal principal, and not something that would be proffered were the genders reversed?
At his age, what mental effects could the professor be experiencing?
Does the FA mention that?
See, the FA to which you refer leaves out a great deal, and is extremely one-sided. Which is why you like the FA, but this is merely a manifestation of your own personal bias, which is probably pretty obvious, no?
People that age are not responsible for their actions, and I'm sick and tired of people like you making excuses for elderly abuse.
Blame the victim. Blame the victim. It's all you people can do. Makes me sick.
Kind of puts that whole wage gap thing into perspective.
Dude realizes his days on earth are numbered, goes a little nutty, decides to test his mack with the ladies, and consenting adults, well, they can do that. If requesting naked pictures over the Internet is creepy, than damn-near every human alive is creepy. I've turned to the Internet for naked pictures a million times. Don't act like you haven't. Ohhhh the outrage. The outrage. Every comment begins with "well the professor was wrong to request them ..."
The fuck he was. The FUCK he was. The first thing I see when some women leaves a Facebook comment is "I wonder what she looks like naked, and guess what, SO DO YOU you hypocrites.
All of you pervs should be fired. Every goddamn last one of you.
If homelice asks consenting adults for pictures of their hoo-haa, and they send it to him, then it is what it is and it's none of my business. It is not within my purview to judge that interactions between consenting adults, and we have to assume that they can consent for society to function. How would commerce function if we assumed that no cold sign contracts (almost all of which are coerced in some way)? It would be over. Day to day life would grind to a halt.
Since she sent naked pictures of herself to him, he is guilty of sexual harassment.
See, the thing about "compassion", and the reason that it's in such short supply, is that men don't get any, and you tend to get what you give in life.
This was an old man. This are not the normal actions of an old man. What would compel him to do such things? Dementia? Early-stages of Alzheimers? Some past traumatic event in his life. Even perversion is a sign of potential mental deviance, almost none of which is voluntary.
What if she took advantage of him? Old man, young woman, it's not hard to see how he may have been flattered. And his patterns with other women certainly show he had some weird proclivity toward it all. That he was a sucker for younger women. That they could easily make him think they were attracted to him and this somehow elicited a response in him.
But, there is no compassion. None. Men commit suicide 4x more often than women (yet women get treated more often for depression), and this is a large reason why. Women enjoy very benefit of the doubt, and men are held fully accountable for everything that they do, without any sympathy whatsoever for the things that have effected them in their own life.
And people crow about "compassion".
Compassion does not discriminate, and if you do, you're not truly compassionate. Compassion requires that we hold the un-proven guilty as innocent, because it would be cruel to do otherwise. The mob always favors the popular explanation.
And if this situation is one of "power", I would say it's the weakest example that I've personally ever seen. You can always extrapolate some power imbalance if you look hard enough. Frankly, I don't think I should be held to any of the contracts I've signed. I have ADHD and do not read them all. My weaknesses are being exploited to financially enslave me, yet, who speaks out for me? I've been homeless before, and my fear of being homeless again causes me to do all kinds of shit I don't want to do for my employer. Fucker is totally exploiting my fears.
So, she had issues. Well, guess what, nearly half of American women are on some form of psychiatric medication. That's 50% of women who cannot be held accountable for their actions. Take that, potential employers.
And how is it that this woman is from a culture that discourages speaking out, yet, she's been speaking out for over a year. Kind of contradicts that whole claim, eh?
No, no, let me guess, it was the third Tuesday under a full moon when she sent the pictures, clearly, CLEARLY causing her to be more passive and yada yada yada.
Alright. As long as this same extreme, contorted, heavily-clauses, benefit-of-the-doubt is given to everyone but, oh wait, it's not.
And you're all evil for not going along with the thought-control experiment.
That's my position anyway.