That is definitely not true. Yes, there are women who consider nice guys only as friends and for some reason crave guys who mistreat them. But there are a lot of women who are not like that also. You are just making generalizations. I agree that honesty and being nice are very important -- but intelligence and confidence also matter a lot to women. It's pretty disturbing that you're telling guys that they have to basically train themselves to be cynical about women in order to get them to bed. What kind of attitude is that?
You're definitely right about not being able to have a meaningful relationship based on that guy's advice. But I don't think the shortage of women in the computing industry is necessarily the problem. I'm a woman studying computer science and I don't magically drift to dating men also in my field -- in fact, my current boyfriend is in ergonomics. What matters to me more is intelligence -- it would matter to me what area he was knowledgable about as long as he is smart. So, if you're confining yourself to only considering computer women, or you think that they are the only ones who would be into you, that's not true. The most important things, at least to any woman worth your while, are intelligence and confidence. Trust me.
I am also a CS major, but at the University of Michigan. I agree with some of your problems with your CS program, but there is one claim that you make that is ridiculous. You said that "the second problem is the fact that they require no previous coding experience to join the CS program." Before I came to college and joined our CS program, I had never programmed in my life. I didn't even know what a compiler was. But now I'm 3rd year, and I am doing fine -- yes, I do have to study harder than guys like you who have been programming for a long time and are able to skip class and get A's, as you said. But, contrary to what you think, I certainly don't get F's just because I have never programmed before; I get A's just like you, I just have to work a little harder.
Do you really believe it would be fair to require previous programming experience to join the department? I agree with you that a lot of people try CS who haven't done anything with it before or don't know the first thing about it -- but they should get weeded out through the courses. There shouldn't be a pre-requirement to weed those people out. I've known quite a number of people (mostly females, including me) who would fail this pre-requirement you propose, and yet we've learned how to program pretty well.
I just hope you see how ridiculous your suggestion is.
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That is definitely not true. Yes, there are women who consider nice guys only as friends and for some reason crave guys who mistreat them. But there are a lot of women who are not like that also. You are just making generalizations. I agree that honesty and being nice are very important -- but intelligence and confidence also matter a lot to women. It's pretty disturbing that you're telling guys that they have to basically train themselves to be cynical about women in order to get them to bed. What kind of attitude is that?
Note: In my previous reply I accidently wrote, "It would matter to me what area..." That was supposed to be WOULDN'T. :)
You're definitely right about not being able to have a meaningful relationship based on that guy's advice. But I don't think the shortage of women in the computing industry is necessarily the problem. I'm a woman studying computer science and I don't magically drift to dating men also in my field -- in fact, my current boyfriend is in ergonomics. What matters to me more is intelligence -- it would matter to me what area he was knowledgable about as long as he is smart. So, if you're confining yourself to only considering computer women, or you think that they are the only ones who would be into you, that's not true. The most important things, at least to any woman worth your while, are intelligence and confidence. Trust me.
I am also a CS major, but at the University of Michigan. I agree with some of your problems with your CS program, but there is one claim that you make that is ridiculous. You said that "the second problem is the fact that they require no previous coding experience to join the CS program." Before I came to college and joined our CS program, I had never programmed in my life. I didn't even know what a compiler was. But now I'm 3rd year, and I am doing fine -- yes, I do have to study harder than guys like you who have been programming for a long time and are able to skip class and get A's, as you said. But, contrary to what you think, I certainly don't get F's just because I have never programmed before; I get A's just like you, I just have to work a little harder. Do you really believe it would be fair to require previous programming experience to join the department? I agree with you that a lot of people try CS who haven't done anything with it before or don't know the first thing about it -- but they should get weeded out through the courses. There shouldn't be a pre-requirement to weed those people out. I've known quite a number of people (mostly females, including me) who would fail this pre-requirement you propose, and yet we've learned how to program pretty well. I just hope you see how ridiculous your suggestion is.