"It is exactly this sort of attitude that guarantees that Linux will never beat Windows on the desktop"
If you think that my attitude is the only thing preventing linux from beating windows on the desktop then you are quite possibly the stupidest person on the planet.
"If a group of people get together to develop an open source program, they have no real incentive to prefer the GPL license to the BSD one."
They have a big reason. They don't want to become unpaid volunteers at a corporation. They don't want other people to take their code and make money selling it.
Maybe to you that's not significant. So what if Bill Gates steals your code and makes another billion or two? Some people don't want that to happen.
" guarantee that the co-worker will swear to never recommend whatever the preferred brand of the expert is, because they will associate it with his attitude. Believe me, attitude matters more than technology. That's why *nix lost the desktop in the first place."
Once again so what? Do I really care if some clueless twit isn't using linux? I am happy they aren't using linux. They should stay as far away from linux as possible. Using linux will in all likelyhood make their little heads explode.
There is no reason to make yourself a slave to other people's whims just because somebody *might* not use linux unless you get on your hands and knees and server them like a good little dog.
Tell them call IT or MS, it's not your job and you have better things to do.
If you don't agree to it then it reverts back to copyrights of the coders. If you don't agree to the GPL then you have to get all the authors persmissions.
"It's entirely possible that the concept of copyleft could be tossed out, as being an unfair infringement upon the innovation and artistic progress of others. "
You are talking about copyright. GPL gives you rights, it does not take them away.
The authors copyright takes away your rights to artistic progress, GPL allows you to use the authors work under certain circumstances.
"It's almost as if the GPL is too "far out" and too liberal for anyone in corporate America to really believe it's real or take it seriously; they seem to think they can just pretend like it isn't there and the courts will wink and understand"
They think that and they are right!
Can you imagine this supreme court ever siding with a long haired hippie radical over some corporation?
"Arnold couldn't do any worse of a job as governor than Democrat Gray Davis is,"
Completely irrelevant. If you are a democrat and you go see terminator you are giving money to Arnold so he can work against your interests. Why give money to your enemy? You can be sure that Arnold sees democrats as his enemy and that will become obvious when he runs for governor. Did you hear his speech recently?
Think about it. The terminator is coming out soon and everyone will flock to see it. THis will make Arnold more money so he can run for governor of california as a republican.
As my sig says. Why would any democrat let alone california democrats go see this movie? Why not boycott it and at least send a message to Arnold?
It's because people can't think outside of their own narrow interests that's why.
"you forgot "America haters" and "terrorist apologists"."
Forgive me. I forgot that these days republicans consider people who disagree with them as terrorist and haters of america. I suppose it won't be long that liberals too will be rounded up and taken to those concentration camps that the muslims are being shipped to.
" So Mr. Knee-Jerk, what did I say in defense of Fox?"
You said they were a balance to CNN.
Since fox is so right wing conservative I suppose you think this means CNN is some sort of a flaming liberal homosexual communist atheist environmentalist liberal organization.
"Quite frankly, the man has no concept of what he's talking about, and needs to sit down, shut up, and listen to what others have to say for a change."
This guy is clearly off his rocker. Think about the possible escalation of his plan.
Could a recording company burn down your house in order to destroy your computer? What if you had a firewall and they could not destroy it via other methods? Could the cops break down your door and take a sledgehammer to your computer?
Scary thoughts huh?
You know what's funny though? If you asked him he would sprout off his usual shpiel about evil govmit, and personal freedom and such.
Too bad linus does not live in a country with libel and slander laws. Imagine what would happen if he lived in a country that offered equality under law for the rich and the poor and prevented the powerful from bulying and intimidating the average person.
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"It is exactly this sort of attitude that guarantees that Linux will never beat Windows on the desktop"
If you think that my attitude is the only thing preventing linux from beating windows on the desktop then you are quite possibly the stupidest person on the planet.
Yes and it was a stupid point made by a stupid person. Who the fuck cares.
"Anyway, if you ask me, the GPL is a public domain license that takes away rights, dressed up as a proprietary license that grants them."
Quite possibly the stupidest thing ever written on slashdot.
"If a group of people get together to develop an open source program, they have no real incentive to prefer the GPL license to the BSD one."
They have a big reason. They don't want to become unpaid volunteers at a corporation. They don't want other people to take their code and make money selling it.
Maybe to you that's not significant. So what if Bill Gates steals your code and makes another billion or two? Some people don't want that to happen.
The only people who hate the GPL are people who want to steal other peoples code.
You can attack me all you want but that does not make me wrong.
Go ahead and dispute what I said if you can.
" guarantee that the co-worker will swear to never recommend whatever the preferred brand of the expert is, because they will associate it with his attitude. Believe me, attitude matters more than technology. That's why *nix lost the desktop in the first place."
Once again so what? Do I really care if some clueless twit isn't using linux? I am happy they aren't using linux. They should stay as far away from linux as possible. Using linux will in all likelyhood make their little heads explode.
There is no reason to make yourself a slave to other people's whims just because somebody *might* not use linux unless you get on your hands and knees and server them like a good little dog.
Tell them call IT or MS, it's not your job and you have better things to do.
If you don't agree to it then it reverts back to copyrights of the coders. If you don't agree to the GPL then you have to get all the authors persmissions.
"It's entirely possible that the concept of copyleft could be tossed out, as being an unfair infringement upon the innovation and artistic progress of others. "
You are talking about copyright. GPL gives you rights, it does not take them away.
The authors copyright takes away your rights to artistic progress, GPL allows you to use the authors work under certain circumstances.
"It's almost as if the GPL is too "far out" and too liberal for anyone in corporate America to really believe it's real or take it seriously; they seem to think they can just pretend like it isn't there and the courts will wink and understand"
They think that and they are right!
Can you imagine this supreme court ever siding with a long haired hippie radical over some corporation?
Does it really matter? Isn't the fact that MS is willing to support windows one of it's selling points?
People buy windows because they can get support for it, why should they be pissed off if someone tells them to call Microsoft and get support for it?
Once again proving my point that most americans can't see past their own selfish petty interests.
"Arnold couldn't do any worse of a job as governor than Democrat Gray Davis is,"
Completely irrelevant. If you are a democrat and you go see terminator you are giving money to Arnold so he can work against your interests. Why give money to your enemy? You can be sure that Arnold sees democrats as his enemy and that will become obvious when he runs for governor. Did you hear his speech recently?
The US has up to this administration has shown itself to be reluctant to kill people just for fun. It's different now.
"Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life."
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he will depelete the oceans and the rivers of fish.
You won't boycott shit and they know it.
Think about it. The terminator is coming out soon and everyone will flock to see it. THis will make Arnold more money so he can run for governor of california as a republican.
As my sig says. Why would any democrat let alone california democrats go see this movie? Why not boycott it and at least send a message to Arnold?
It's because people can't think outside of their own narrow interests that's why.
"you forgot "America haters" and "terrorist apologists"."
Forgive me. I forgot that these days republicans consider people who disagree with them as terrorist and haters of america. I suppose it won't be long that liberals too will be rounded up and taken to those concentration camps that the muslims are being shipped to.
" So Mr. Knee-Jerk, what did I say in defense of Fox?"
You said they were a balance to CNN.
Since fox is so right wing conservative I suppose you think this means CNN is some sort of a flaming liberal homosexual communist atheist environmentalist liberal organization.
Did I get that right?
" instead of realizing that they are the balance, you come across like an idealogue."
Anybody who defends fox is by definition an idealogue.
If you want all that move to another country.
"Quite frankly, the man has no concept of what he's talking about, and needs to sit down, shut up, and listen to what others have to say for a change."
This guy is clearly off his rocker. Think about the possible escalation of his plan.
Could a recording company burn down your house in order to destroy your computer? What if you had a firewall and they could not destroy it via other methods? Could the cops break down your door and take a sledgehammer to your computer?
Scary thoughts huh?
You know what's funny though? If you asked him he would sprout off his usual shpiel about evil govmit, and personal freedom and such.
Scientology did something like this to the IRS. They crushed the IRS under a rain of lawsuits from inidividual members.
I don't think the OSS community is as organized, as well funded or as dedicated to their cause as scientology (or any other religion really).
Judging by how many hostile posts there are on slashdot towards anything GPL I would say that your idea of filing many suits will go nowhere.
If you cared about the rights of those people you would not be killing them in the first place.
I figure if you are evil enough to drop nukes on people then you probably don't really care about any other rights they might have.
Too bad linus does not live in a country with libel and slander laws. Imagine what would happen if he lived in a country that offered equality under law for the rich and the poor and prevented the powerful from bulying and intimidating the average person.