We still have so much to learn in terms of science and experience on that 'useless chunk of rock', all of which will be directly applicable to a future Mars mission.
Re:Is Censorship/control ALWAYS bad?
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Truth is, in any country where education isn't sufficiently high and skepticism isn't strongly in place, the free flow of information can hurt much more than it can help.
Good point, but I think that the quickest way for people to learn skepticism is by repeated exposure. Hopefully, after getting their 11,000th chain email / doomsday prediction, they'll come to realize that it's all just noise and advertising. I say this with some trepidation, though, having just recieved a 'good-luck' chain-letter forwarded by a fellow white, middle-class friend. I'll 'return' the favour with 50 or so replies w/history ; ) That usually helps to get the point across.
These people need American TV, beer and video games.
Yep. Sites like 'stormfront' are just troll-baiting on the larger, social level. The more controversy and indignation they can stir up, the more 'involved' they feel. Kinda like a news-group troll, who revels in the dischord he/she/it inspires in others.
Some people are good at filtering out the junk, which greatly lessens its impact. Others cry out that if you're not actively denouncing such behaviour, you are encouraging it. They are the one's who are *really* feeding the trolls.
Every site they try to have shut down will be given a massive influx of attention and energy, and will only grow as a result.
With all the kooks, Haters of This and That and the Charismatic Leaders talking at once, they drown each other out with their noise. If we start 'removing' some of them, 'persecution' will lend them a legitimacy they don't deserve.
It'll be good to see David Johansen finally get the attention he deserves. He and his band were an inspiration to many, proving once and for all that the guy who is willing to drink his whiskey straight from the bottle *and* wear a dress to work gets laid more than all the rest put together.
Sounds like they should make all contributions Anonymous by default. No logins, passwords or teams. They'd lose a few folks, but gain a steadier and more dependable crowd who weren't just in it to get a happy hard-on seeing their name on a list of 'top contributors'.
Never happen, but that's okay. Just keep them grits a-comin', and stay (or get) ripped in 2000.
The environment has changed. Organisms, including musicans and the RIAA will have to adapt or die. In the short term, people will suffer to one degree or another, while in the long term they will find a way to. Kind of like when a Steel Mill closes down. Sad for some, a joyous breakthrough for others. Inevitable either way. Nothing lasts forever.
No one owes the RIAA or any musician a living. They have to figure out how to adapt themselves and they will. The smart ones already have. The sort-of-smart ones are watching anxiously from the sidelines, hesitant to jump in.
The Law of the Jungle has no Ethics. Somewhere, a fluffy kitten is purring. In Space, they let you eat powdered ice cream.
Remember when people bought 45's? Some bands, the 'one hit wonders' based a successful career on a few singles. Nowadays there's no way for a band to really put out a single. You can put 2 or 3 songs on a cd, but most folks aren't that interested, and there's really no entry-level distribution for that sort of thing.
The idea of paying a coupla bux for a single (after previewing a free, lower-quality version) is an awesome breakthrough. Sure, the song will passed around once someone buys and downloads it, but a lot of people will appreciate the opportunity to support and encourage good bands without having to go broke, and bands can worry more about writing one, two or a few good songs instead of filling up a cd with crap.
I checked out their songs on mp3.com and was impressed. My only real connection with metal is through Motorhead, but this bands LotR's songs seems to fit the bill very well.
The 2nd song 'Nightfall' is fun too, kind of a Scorpions meet Sweet and jam out at Stonehenge with Spinal Tap and a few dwarves and lots of beer sorta thang.
The mp3 I got for LotR's sounds very distorted, which might be an intentional form of protection, or might just be the crappy 5-y-o soundcard I'm using in this machine.
In this case, as pertains to the discussion at hand, I won't be rushing to buy their cd, but the band is solidly on my radar now, no thanks to Radio Land, Hollywood or Wall Mart!
Try renting an outside apartment and then getting some kind of DSL or cable access. You can call it 'Napster Phi Delta' and throw wild parties. When the school superintendent wakes up with a pile of Michael Bolton cd's in his bed, he'll know who to blame...
Did you use Instant Grits to make that fake puke? Threw in a few raisins and crushed nuts, a little ketchup maybe? Good man. Next time throw in just a touch of whiskey to give it the tangy zing of bile. Go forth and multiply. Pass 'GO' and collect $200.
Or will I have to compile it myself and then put "modprobe confessor" into my startup script?
I like to get my confessions out of the way immediately upon booting the machine, otherwise my transgression queue gets out of hand and I start losing clock cycles.
You can shout all you want for it to stop, but chances are it won't. It's beyond your or anyone else's control. No use bellyaching. Shovel the driveway and go sledding with the kids.
I kinda wanted to see the story with a fistfight between Mitnick and Shimomura and everyone on rollerblades and constantly saying "What is the Matrix?")
Everyone who whines about Katz this and Katz that - they all read him. His mission is accomplished.
His 'mission' being, always and ever, a childish plea for attention and approval. He has been given the honorable position of having whatever he chooses to write posted as a headline for all to see on Slashdot, and yet he refuses to show any respect whatsoever for that honor, instead using it as a pulpit from which he attempts to passive-aggressively bully others into supporting him so he can look good in front of his editorial peers.
There is no obligation to provide a soapbox for whoever happens to be passing through.
True enough. Let's chuck JKatz's soapbox right now and let him duke it out on the same level as everyone else.
The internet can promote that kind of hostility the same way a mob does: by breaking the link between act and its consequences.
I think an earlier reference to car drivers is much better than a mob. A mob galvanizes itself around a single idea against a single focus, kind of like how JKatz wants people to mob together against 'people who say mean things about him'. Phaagh.
Katz's ideas are nowhere near fascist. He's not even on the right, much less the far right.
'Political' opposition has always consisted in large part of catcalls and badmouthing. Jon seems to wish to have this 'rabble' done away with, because it offends his sensibilities. Point is, it's supposed to.
resorting to a base epithet out of ignorance is unforgivable...probably doesn't have the same knee-jerk sting
Base epithets are a fact of life, and sometimes, when one feels one has been truly offended, a little knee-jerk sting is called for. During the American Revolution, people were tarred and feathered for having dissenting opinions. Base epithets? Bring 'em on!
If you choose to scroll down to the bottom of every page and get red around the ears at a few NP/grits posts, then you have gone out of your way to spend your own resources (time and attention), and that is YOUR responsibility.
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We still have so much to learn in terms of science and experience on that 'useless chunk of rock', all of which will be directly applicable to a future Mars mission.
Truth is, in any country where education isn't sufficiently high and skepticism isn't strongly in place, the free flow of information can hurt much more than it can help.
Good point, but I think that the quickest way for people to learn skepticism is by repeated exposure. Hopefully, after getting their 11,000th chain email / doomsday prediction, they'll come to realize that it's all just noise and advertising. I say this with some trepidation, though, having just recieved a 'good-luck' chain-letter forwarded by a fellow white, middle-class friend. I'll 'return' the favour with 50 or so replies w/history ; ) That usually helps to get the point across.
These people need American TV, beer and video games.
Poor fella just wants his porn back!
Yep. Sites like 'stormfront' are just troll-baiting on the larger, social level. The more controversy and indignation they can stir up, the more 'involved' they feel. Kinda like a news-group troll, who revels in the dischord he/she/it inspires in others.
Some people are good at filtering out the junk, which greatly lessens its impact. Others cry out that if you're not actively denouncing such behaviour, you are encouraging it. They are the one's who are *really* feeding the trolls.
Every site they try to have shut down will be given a massive influx of attention and energy, and will only grow as a result.
Oh well!
With all the kooks, Haters of This and That and the Charismatic Leaders talking at once, they drown each other out with their noise. If we start 'removing' some of them, 'persecution' will lend them a legitimacy they don't deserve.
Jon?
Damn. Bastard orderlies gave me the wrong medication.
Most embarassing. My humblest apologies.
It'll be good to see David Johansen finally get the attention he deserves. He and his band were an inspiration to many, proving once and for all that the guy who is willing to drink his whiskey straight from the bottle *and* wear a dress to work gets laid more than all the rest put together.
Glorious, colorful DEATH!
Of a star, I mean.
I'm increasingly troubled by all this. Eventually, I'll explode.
Sounds like they should make all contributions Anonymous by default. No logins, passwords or teams. They'd lose a few folks, but gain a steadier and more dependable crowd who weren't just in it to get a happy hard-on seeing their name on a list of 'top contributors'.
Never happen, but that's okay. Just keep them grits a-comin', and stay (or get) ripped in 2000.
Feel free to post running tallys if you join, eh?
: )
The RIAA is Nazi Germany and Eric Clapton is Hitler. Death. Mayhem. Destruction of Biblical Proportions.
Whew! Let's go home!
The environment has changed. Organisms, including musicans and the RIAA will have to adapt or die. In the short term, people will suffer to one degree or another, while in the long term they will find a way to. Kind of like when a Steel Mill closes down. Sad for some, a joyous breakthrough for others. Inevitable either way. Nothing lasts forever.
No one owes the RIAA or any musician a living. They have to figure out how to adapt themselves and they will. The smart ones already have. The sort-of-smart ones are watching anxiously from the sidelines, hesitant to jump in.
The Law of the Jungle has no Ethics. Somewhere, a fluffy kitten is purring. In Space, they let you eat powdered ice cream.
Remember when people bought 45's? Some bands, the 'one hit wonders' based a successful career on a few singles. Nowadays there's no way for a band to really put out a single. You can put 2 or 3 songs on a cd, but most folks aren't that interested, and there's really no entry-level distribution for that sort of thing.
The idea of paying a coupla bux for a single (after previewing a free, lower-quality version) is an awesome breakthrough. Sure, the song will passed around once someone buys and downloads it, but a lot of people will appreciate the opportunity to support and encourage good bands without having to go broke, and bands can worry more about writing one, two or a few good songs instead of filling up a cd with crap.
Whoo hoo I say.
I checked out their songs on mp3.com and was impressed. My only real connection with metal is through Motorhead, but this bands LotR's songs seems to fit the bill very well.
The 2nd song 'Nightfall' is fun too, kind of a Scorpions meet Sweet and jam out at Stonehenge with Spinal Tap and a few dwarves and lots of beer sorta thang.
The mp3 I got for LotR's sounds very distorted, which might be an intentional form of protection, or might just be the crappy 5-y-o soundcard I'm using in this machine.
In this case, as pertains to the discussion at hand, I won't be rushing to buy their cd, but the band is solidly on my radar now, no thanks to Radio Land, Hollywood or Wall Mart!
Gotta fscking love that.
Try renting an outside apartment and then getting some kind of DSL or cable access. You can call it 'Napster Phi Delta' and throw wild parties. When the school superintendent wakes up with a pile of Michael Bolton cd's in his bed, he'll know who to blame...
"NAAAAAPSTER HOUUUUUUSE!"
Live and Let Live and Make Fun of Everything Along the Way
This is the True Path to becoming spiritually ripped .
Did you use Instant Grits to make that fake puke? Threw in a few raisins and crushed nuts, a little ketchup maybe? Good man. Next time throw in just a touch of whiskey to give it the tangy zing of bile. Go forth and multiply. Pass 'GO' and collect $200.
Come on you morons! Get cracking!
Or will I have to compile it myself and then put "modprobe confessor" into my startup script?
I like to get my confessions out of the way immediately upon booting the machine, otherwise my transgression queue gets out of hand and I start losing clock cycles.
You can shout all you want for it to stop, but chances are it won't. It's beyond your or anyone else's control. No use bellyaching. Shovel the driveway and go sledding with the kids.
I kinda wanted to see the story with a fistfight between Mitnick and Shimomura and everyone on rollerblades and constantly saying "What is the Matrix?")
Here's the gist of what the good Lord Byron was saying:
"I will not reason" --> BIGOT
"I can't reason!" --> FOOL
"I...don't dare to reason. Someone might not like me!" --> SLAVE
Slave to who or what you ask? A slave to his or her own Fear. Does that sound...reasonable? Hope this clarifies things!
Everyone who whines about Katz this and Katz that - they all read him. His mission is accomplished.
His 'mission' being, always and ever, a childish plea for attention and approval. He has been given the honorable position of having whatever he chooses to write posted as a headline for all to see on Slashdot, and yet he refuses to show any respect whatsoever for that honor, instead using it as a pulpit from which he attempts to passive-aggressively bully others into supporting him so he can look good in front of his editorial peers.
There is no obligation to provide a soapbox for whoever happens to be passing through.
True enough. Let's chuck JKatz's soapbox right now and let him duke it out on the same level as everyone else.
The internet can promote that kind of hostility the same way a mob does: by breaking the link between act and its consequences.
I think an earlier reference to car drivers is much better than a mob. A mob galvanizes itself around a single idea against a single focus, kind of like how JKatz wants people to mob together against 'people who say mean things about him'. Phaagh.
Katz's ideas are nowhere near fascist. He's not even on the right, much less the far right.
'Political' opposition has always consisted in large part of catcalls and badmouthing. Jon seems to wish to have this 'rabble' done away with, because it offends his sensibilities. Point is, it's supposed to.
resorting to a base epithet out of ignorance is unforgivable...probably doesn't have the same knee-jerk sting
Base epithets are a fact of life, and sometimes, when one feels one has been truly offended, a little knee-jerk sting is called for. During the American Revolution, people were tarred and feathered for having dissenting opinions. Base epithets? Bring 'em on!
Let Slashdot worry about theirs.
If you choose to scroll down to the bottom of every page and get red around the ears at a few NP/grits posts, then you have gone out of your way to spend your own resources (time and attention), and that is YOUR responsibility.