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Web Site Invites Sinners to Confess Online
slackeress writes "The Internet Report on Yahoo has a story about The Confessor Web site that invites sinners to confess online. Finally a chance for me to be redeemed. Ha! I'm glad to see that the Big Guy is Internet savvy." Wow! I wonder what those local loops charges are! :)
The Roman Catholic Church condemned the idea.
If the Roman Catholic Church wants to get its act together, it will return its "ministry" to the things that are provided for by Scripture. Hint: confession to a mortal priest is not one of them, and neither is the idea of "penance" that is dispensed by the judgement of a mortal. Hint: worship of "saints" is not one of them, either. Virtually nothing that this offshoot cult does has any Scriptural basis. The followers of this wicked faith would do well to re-examine it and ask themselves where they would like to spend their eternal life.
You may now moderate me down for hitting a little bit too close to home.
What do you mean that this all goes to /dev/null?
whoa, hold on, I thought we already have thepope.org? when do the lawsuits and patent infringements kick in for like confession TM or Indulgences Copyright 0 AD?
Penultimate? If IRC is 2nd to last what
is last? Usenet?
(Name one person, Christ excluded, who has never done wrong?) Tsukino Usagi? I don't think she's ever done wrong... I mean, in all seriousnes, my chances of proving that Sailor Moon exists is about the same as your chances of proving that Christ existed.
Sailor Moon does indeed exist. She shows up on my TV at 4:30 every weekday. The only way I can infer that Jesus exists is from the old men with large hair that request money in His name on the other channels.
Absolutely true:
One of the Christian channels I get has a show that offers an opportunity for a $1000 "seed" donation that will get you out of debt using the power of the Lord. Awesome.
Other news:
Jim Baker is starting a new ministry. The man is a genius.
MY FAVOURITE PASSTIME IS TO ROUND UP A BUNCH OF 16-YEAR-OLD FEMALE CHEERLEADERS IN SHORT SKIRTS, AND TRANSFORM THEM INTO A BUNCH OF PETRIFIED MARBLE 16-YEAR-OLD CHEERLEADER STATUES!!!!!!!!!
! !!!!!!!!
IF THE MPAA TRIED TO STOP ME FROM DOING THIS, I'M GOING TO BUST THEIR ASSES BACK TO THE STONE AGE. NOBODY STANDS BETWEEN ME AND MY PETRIFIED MARBLE CHEERLEADER STATUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even if no one at this site were to use the holes in Javascript, this site will be a very tempting target for all the script-kiddies.
This web confessional story is quite old. I remember seeing a story on this at least two years ago and actually visiting the site. I guess Yahoo ran out of fresh material...
I guess it is sort of like those soda can tab or terminal illness postcard chain emails circulating on the web. Once in a while one of my recently 'netted' acquaintances discovers them and I get a 'new' copy: "Look what _I_ found!"
I am also quite amazed how many of you 'hackers' are down on anyone believing in God and Catholics in particular. I bet you would not beat so much on the Jews, who will not turn the other cheek, but will seek an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.
I had this sig, but Mr.Anderson broke it.
Is Neo!!!!!
damn smiths....
-neo
I can't wait for the day when christianity is locked up along with the rest of the world's bad ideas, like the notion that the world is flat.
Confession may be good for the soul, but if the folks running the server are really officers of the law, it may also -- depending upon your sin, of course-- earn you a visit from the marshalls. Remember all those sting operations on 60 Minutes where the constabulary are the ones running the "illegal" fencing operation. Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're really not out to corrupt my config file.
Don't forget that you too can become a minsiter online for free and for life! Take part of marriges, tax exemptions, etc.! No questions asked, no one will be denied!
http://www.ulc.org/ This is not a joke!
'Amen' to that!!!!!!!! ;))) hehe
Dear God, I am so wholeheartedly sorry for stripping naked and petrifying the formerly soft and clothed body of Natalie Portman. I am also sorry for the many acts of sin that I committed as a result of petrifying the naked body of Natalie Portman. I am also very sorry that I didn't petrify the naked bodies of Mae Ling Mak and Lacey Chabert, but promise you God, that if the opportunity arises in the future, I will seize it with glee! There is nothing more sinful than lust over a naked stone figure, and for that, God, I am truly sorry. Off to petrify Mae Ling Mak and Lacey Chabert!
what next, irc.god.org ????
Dear Satan, in heaven and hell, forgive me for i have sinned. i have let up in my daily affirmation in faith for the holy father. i find it too time consuming to commit the required daily sacrificial offering of a virgin, and so i must repent my belief in all that is of the after life. yes, it is so i am afraid.. i must convert to Gatesism. bill gates is my new master, and i shall serve him until the end of time
...but I lost the web page to do it. Maybe on E-bay? Hmmmm...
What's the going rate for a well balenced soul with limited milage. I've only got 33 years on it and no major traumas.
As soon as I find it, I'll start the bidding. Anyone know how to look for these things????
This is *funny* (hence the python foot). You're supposed to laugh, make humerous comments, and forget about it. People who are taking offense to this, or using it as a tool to propagate some other form of online confession should take a quick look around.
:)
"...there is a real chance that time spent here may have real consequences"
this line had me laughing out loud
I'd also like to take this opportunity to point out the multitude of contradictions in the bible
(ex:
KI1 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.
CH2 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.
JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen)
thanks for playing...
SaintAlex
Observe, reason, and experiment.
Observe, reason, and experiment.
(if you're too dumb, just pray)
i have taken richard stallman's, eric raymond's, larry wall's, tom christiansen's, jon katz's, roblimo's, hemos's, cmdr taco's, natalie portman's and drew barrymore's names in vain, along with several others i can't even remember.
i have lusted in my heart for hot young actresses.
i have encouraged masturbation and marital infidelity.
i have stolen nearly an infinite number of moderation points.
i have murdered legitimate discussions.
i have uttered countless untruths.
please slashdot, redeem my karma!!!
wiping tear from cheek.
if i remember my catechism properly, the "confession" sacrament has many parts. you don't simply confess to your sins to a priest (the loose rule is at least twice a year), it also takes:
- penance: do 2 hail linus
- reparation: give back double what you took... bg would need to file for bankrupcy
- grace: divine providence grants you grace 1) if it feels like it and 2) if and only if you are truly sorry for your sins and have done all the other parts
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Brian Fundakowski Feldman
As a Catholic, the Sacrement of Reconciliation is central to my beliefs. To fully receive the Sacrement, the confessor must seek the help of a priest and make the confession to that other person. I believe this is a uniquely Catholic view, but someone correct me if I'm wrong. The idea is that you're confessing to the priest, who acts as a mediator for Christ. The confessor is not confessing to flesh and blood. He or she is confessing to the human-divine Christ.
The idea of an on-line confessional brings up some interesting questions. How can the confessor be sure the other end is being viewed by an ordained priest? If the confession really does stay on the user's computer and no one sees it, then it is not a valid confession according to Catholic doctrine. How can the privacy of the confessional be maintained over a public medium (think of all those courtroom dramas you've watched over the years)?
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How can the privacy of the confessional be maintained over a public medium (think of all those courtroom dramas you've watched over the years)?
:)
Duh... SSL!
Sorry, but I search up and down slashdot for two things and allways post when I find them.
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1) Posts quoting what's-his-faces law that mentioning Nazis is death to a thread.
It usualy works as censorship, and I'm sorry but my loathing the Nazis makes me loath censorship even more.
2) Occam' Razor
I search for these to test a theory that it is used almost always wrong on slashdot. This supports my theory.
In this case, if you are to take the Biblical account for your facts, he was on the cross a short time. It is possible for someone to survive that. However, He was run in the side with a sword, and blood and water came out. Symbolic references aside, it shows that He was dead long enough (heart stopped beating) for his blood to start seperating. Its hard enough to start a heart beating after just minutes after death. Its a miracle after that long (an hour at least if my sources are correct).
So Occam's Razor does not justify your story as you think it does. Nor does Occam's razor find or even verify truth in any way shape or form. It is a statistical guess, playing the odds. I am so tired of people using it as a divining rod pointing to their half baked ideas. It is useful in interpolating data, not to support arguments.
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Sorry, but I search up and down slashdot for two things and allways post when I find them.
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1) Posts quoting what's-his-faces law that mentioning Nazis is death to a thread.
It usualy works as censorship, and I'm sorry but my loathing the Nazis makes me loath censorship even more.
2) Occam' Razor
I search for these to test a theory that it is used almost always wrong on slashdot. This supports my theory.
In this case, if you are to take the Biblical account for your facts, he was on the cross a short time. It is possible for someone to survive that. However, He was run in the side with a sword, and blood and water came out. Symbolic references aside, it shows that He was dead long enough (heart stopped beating) for his blood to start seperating. Its hard enough to start a heart beating after just minutes after death. Its a miracle after that long (an hour at least if my sources are correct).
So Occam's Razor does not justify your story as you think it does. Nor does Occam's razor find or even verify truth in any way shape or form. It is a statistical guess, playing the odds. I am so tired of people using it as a divining rod pointing to their half baked ideas. It is useful in interpolating data, not to support arguments.
However I agree that we are inherently good until something compels us to be bad. Christians actualy believe this through the story of Adam and Eve in the Garden. They (like us) as creations of God were pretty good, mostly just innocent. Then they started talking to snakes...
Their "sin" (better said as transgression, even though many would argue there isn't a difference but look it up) was eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
This fruit, or ability to know good and evil is inherited with us. It means we get to know evil, sometimes by participation. This is what is confused some times and given the name origional sin, or being born in sin.
Note however the phrase "born in sin" does not say "born by sin". Many celebates base their obstinance on such a extrapolation of the doctrine as to say that birth happens from sin. This is not true.
Born in sin means more like born into a sinful environment. The sinful environment we find outselves in is the influence that you are speaking of. The good people resist and continue to do good, or repent of the evil they do and become good again.
This repenting, a neccisary step when someone does sin actualy requires an intersesion of someone outside themselves. One can not just change their mind after raping someone and say "Its all better I won't do it again I repent (meaning "change my mind about it") and will never do it again. Justice still demands a price. And the repentant person is not able to pay it.
Hence a believe that we're not nice unless something outside of us compels us to be nice. Surrounded by sin, even the best people need an influence from this intersessory power to be nicer. But most importantly they need someone to "right the wrongs."
That is why the need for someone to die, and live again on their own power. That is why it is so important that Christ either rose from the dead or He didn't. How could someone show us how to overcome our death if he couldn't even overcome his own? Yet there is even more to this that I would explain but I've run out of attention span of the readers a long time ago.
Thanks to the readers that wadded this far...
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Well, there seem to be more religious nuts than any other kind. And frankly as a former Catholic (escaped after 5th grade) I'd rather confess to my TV than somebody's stupid web site. At least the TV talks back...
The revolution will NOT be televised.
WE WERE ALL BORN IN SIN :-)), or *could* do anything "wrong" until somebody told me what "wrong" is, and that would depend very much on where, how, and when you lived.
I think the key here is "born in". I don't accept that I did anything wrong in the womb (Mom never complained to me, anyway
Can you name one person (other than Christ) who never did anything wrong?
I wouldn't name Christ either. Are you absolutely sure he didn't pull a cat's tail at 3 yrs old? Or would that have been in the Bible if it happened?! We certainly have reasonable historic proof that certain individuals existed, but to make statements about what they did and didn't do ever... that's not gonna fly. You believe he died and rose from the grave - as Devil's Advocate (sorry folks, how often do you get to use that in proper context?) I'm thinking maybe the wounds were not as bad as they looked, a few people snuck into the tomb and bandaged him (insert UFO's here if you're into that) and they pushed the rock out of the way so he could beat feet to a quiet life of monk-ness in the hills. After all, if you're dead the authorities will leave you alone, right? Ever hear of a faked death? Ascended in a ballon, walked uphill, whatever. There are plenty of eyewitnesses who see and remember different things - check court records from anywhere. Maybe they were suffering ergot poisoning from bad bread!
Can you prove my version is wrong? Occam's Razor - given two possibilities, one far-fetched in the extreme, the other simple, odds are on the simpler one every time.
It's that whole inherent badness of humanity thing again. We're not nice unless something outside of us compels us to be nice.
As a (modified) Buddhist I would say that we're inherently good until something outside (or not) compels us to be bad, but maybe I'm just not into good/bad as much in general.
The revolution will NOT be televised.
Two things about this:
/dev/null, the overall effect would be the same...
a) to ensure privacy, the confession is immediately deleted afterwards, so if somebody should write a script to talk to
b) a spokesperson of the roman katholic church said in the daily telegraph that they disapproved of the stuff.
greetings,
Reinout
Reinout van Rees
Does this deserve to be under a "humor" topic? Many people consider it to be a very serious concept, yet Slashdot slaps it with "It's funny. Laugh".
Not leaning one way or anothr.
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"They misunderestimated me." --George W Bush, Nov. 6, 2000
%ping god
ping: Cannot resolve "god" (Unknown host)
i am... therefore i think
Absolve me oh Pope!
"... message passing as the fundamental operation of the OS is just an excercise in computer science masturbation."
Imagine the kind of thing you could look at if somebody cracked this site.
Unfortunately some morons will probably take me seriously
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers." Bill Gates,
Joey Skaggs already did this even better, fellas.
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Some keywords for the NSA in the Lord of the Rings universe: One Ring bind find Sauron quest Nazgul freedom
so, today they collect the confessions, and after that what do they do? open up a website, where we can pay to read peoples confessions?
------ Curiosity killed the cat. {satisfaction brought it back | it didn't die ignorant | lack of it is killing mankind
for the 10 years i've been on the net i've always found IRC to be the penultimate geek confessional
:)
I heard the interview on the radio as I was driving home. Actually, the spokesman said that the Catholic Church (or at least the chaps in red, white and puce) didn't disagree with the idea, but suggested that the act of confessing online wouldn't be as good as the real thing. (IIRC, he said '...not as good as the kosher thing...', which I found particularly amusing).
Rich
Then again, anybody lazy enough to use this surrogate confessional probably deserves to be shown up for the dork they are. The whole premise of this site makes me laugh.
What do you guys think about religion and the internet? Can the two mix? (I mean in a worship/practice way, not merely as a means of transmitting basic information.)
The Divine Creatrix in a Mortal Shell that stays Crunchy in Milk
The House Between - Original Sci-Fi Series
No no no... Why go through the pope when you can speak directly to Jesus Christ Himself? I think that would be more effective.
prayer://jesus.christ/
Step 1: Create "confessor" website.
Step 2: Collect data.
Step 3: Send out blackmail letters.
Step 4: Collect cash.
The cake is a pie
Yeah, My favorite line was "This is between you and God and your privacy is totally respected."
Well thank you very much for the Phantom Karma! It's gotta count for something!
Its from Goonies (1985 Spielberg)
Its the speech Chunk says when he is captured by the Fratellis...
You say you want a revolution?
By opening and using this software, you agree to accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and saviour...
That's a heck of a EULA. Microsoft must be jealous.
Additionally, you don't seem to understand that penance does not equal punishment. Penance is an atonement for the wrong you have done. A sin corrupts you and corrupts the community, even if it is only in a tiny way. A penance is a constructive way to try to change you and the community a little bit for the better. Punishment happens to the unrepentant after they die.
When I'm singing a ballad and a pair of underwear lands on my head, I hate that. It really kills the mood.
-Tom Jones
I don't find your mockery of my religion particularly funny.
When I'm singing a ballad and a pair of underwear lands on my head, I hate that. It really kills the mood.
-Tom Jones
He doesn't mean the real Pope. He means the stupid mock pope, some fellow named Kurt.
When I'm singing a ballad and a pair of underwear lands on my head, I hate that. It really kills the mood.
-Tom Jones
Jeez...who among us ISN'T ordained by the ULC? I know I am =)
The Good Reverend
the parish I belong to has been offering soul cleansing since 1996 when they invented the concept of Internet Baptism Best part is that the Church Of Gerbil doesn't even make you confess... Keep your sins to yourself. I have found that once you give em up to a priest they are a little less enjoyable.
Of course, I would never do that, but would be very fun to watch people "laundry their dirty clothes".
I can imagine the messages...
"I did it again, and will be called Millenium. Please forgive me. s: B.G."
"It was a prank, but everyone believed it, now I can't go back. please help me Lord. s: L.T."
[]'s Carlos Cardoso - Becoming a brazilian ProBlogger, typo by typo
A website like this makes it all too easy to collect confessed secrets and blackmail the confessors, which would be rather negative feedback for the confessors! I do wonder, however, how is the security at real-world confessions? Would it be difficult to slip a bug or tape recorder (or XCam :-) into the confession chamber? "Accidentally" leave one behind after your confession?
There seem to be so many potentials for abuse with a religion that rests your morality on the confession of sins. I know that the Catholic faith was (a few hundred years ago) greatly abused (see Chaucer's Canterbury Tales); is it prevalent or uncommon or impossible now?
Daniel J. Peng
Daniel J. Peng
Cutlery, it's cutlery damn you.
"... Confession cannot be done by telephone, e-mail or proxy."
I'm curious as to exactly how they interpret their own words. I'm not a christian, but the last time i read the bible, it said only god could forgive sins, and jesus said to tell your sins directly to god.
What do they think "teling them to god" means? Telling them to a priest to recive pennance? But a priest is just a proxy for god (proxy meaning "a person authorized to speak for or represent another")... so by their own words they've condemened their own practices.
One of God's web sites is godchannel.com, where the contents are dictated by God personally... so it is written. There's a section from the Mother too for those who are fed up with the "Heavenly Father" angle. It's an interesting read. Metaphysics, vision, God's latest plan, and advice on seeking the light within yourself. I found God's advice there resonant with my earlier inner experiences, but the .com domain and the promotion of certain author's books, and not others which seem equally relevant, leave me just a touch suspicious of the site owners' intentions... Enjoy... -- Jamie
I'm a Christian...not Catholic...and that concept makes no sense to me. The priest is obviously a proxy. Whatever.
I confess all of my sins in emacs:
I lust for Natalie Portman.What makes you feel I lust for Natalie Portman?
Jordan Bettis
``Wherever you go, there's another stupid sigfile quote.''If you find any scientific evidence to support your claims [that WE WERE ALL BORN IN SIN], let me know.
OK, I'll bite. Can you name one person (other than Christ) who never did anything wrong? That's all he's saying. It's that whole inherent badness of humanity thing again. We're not nice unless something outside of us compels us to be nice.
I'm also amused by the demands for scientific evidence for any claims that seem to fly in the face of the popular philosophy of the time. Can you scientifically prove that Hannibal crossed the Alps? No! Why not? Can you do an experiment to show that your hyphothesis, "Hannibal crossed the Alps," is true? Can this experiment be repeated? All we have is historical evidence, which is accepted as valid. Likewise for the statement "we were all born in sin." We have historical evidence and testimony that this is the case. Historical evidence can be every bit as valid as scientific evidence.
And with regard to the online confessional, I have to agree with a previous poster: Prayer works!
JimD
JimD
This is what happens when objective reality is denied...
Please name one reliable source that denies this historic person of Jesus of Nazareth. Check an encyclopedia if you want (Britannica springs to mind). Check the histories of Josephus. You probably don't consider the Bible a reliable source, so I won't bother... Suffice it to say, the historical evidence is there. Jesus is not just a cleverly invented myth!
So can you prove Napoleon existed? How about Alexander the Great? Archimedes? Prove to me that Plato existed. How? Historical evidence. It's a fascinating subject...try looking into it some time.
JimD
I gotta git me sum dat!
Goofy, Geeky Gifts and More!
But anyway... I've never completely understood the Catholic modle of confession. Obviously confession is good for the mind as well as the theoretical soul, but why to a particular person? Well, if it works for them, so be it.
Wow, random memory association day. There was a short story I read back in high school about a town that had a tradition of confessing to the statue in the town square. People would wisper their confessions in the statue's ear. Then some society women got their deaf maid to read people's lips and tell them what people were confessing. Some sort of twilight zone creepy death ending, but I don't recal it. :)
...will work for Chick tracts...
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Heh I dont know about you guys but when im not at work I like to browse at -1. I think AC posts are REAL funny some of the time. And if you guys are willing to moderate up stuff even jokingly about it that means other people think that as well. Even if its relevant to the topic. I think they are an integral part of /. and as much as Id be sad for not having something to read at work.. It would NOT be the same.
As for the loud, capitalized "WE WERE ALL BORN IN SIN"... well, you might find your preaching better-received on a different forum. If you find any scientific evidence to support your claims, let me know.
-Hypr Geeque
Stay up hacking each weekend. Sleep is for the week.
Probably there is just some religious guy watching them scroll by, and nothing is stored locally. Of course, they could be intercepted en route...
-raph
Well, assuming that your question wasn't a rhetorical one, the sarcasm and quips are because a lot of people see this as absolutely absurd. Even if you believe that confession to mortal intermediary of sins you have committed improves the state of your soul, something like this strikes a lot of people as silly.
:^)
Why? Because to live as a human being is tearful and joyous all at the same time, and we've all done things we regret, no matter what we say. It's a long, hard struggle, for those who are inclined. Typing your sins into a pop-up console strikes me as trivializing both our spiritual needs and specifically the act of confession itself.
As far as *religion* bringing out the nuts, we must be reading different parts of Slashdot.
Remember, dude, WE WERE ALL BORN IN SIN ... Thus the list of sinners will be quite long and rather meaningless
there is a number of atheist web pages, such as www.infidels.org which can help you with rejecting Jesus as your saviour.
The site makes no demands for penance.
The Roman Catholic Church condemned the idea.
It is interesting how quickly the Catholic Church disagreed with this idea. But it also makes sense, as the idea of forgiveness without punishment can be so annoying...
-ShelbyCobra
Living life in the right side of the s-plane
Do 5 "Hail Linus'" and don't touch your windows again.
"Brother Smith, this is Reverend Gillmore.. I've recieved information that you've visited www.sheeplovers.com 42 times in the past month"
If that's the case.. wonder if they'll accept Visa and Mastercard for indulgences?
Wraith
Me no like all this chatter. It make God angry.
Don't kid yourself.
Kurt is the real pope.
Minty Toothbrush
.oo.
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If an infinite number of monkeys typed at an infinte number of
If an infinite number of monkeys typed at an infinte number of
computer keyboards, they would all be
That's a heck of a EULA. Microsoft must be jealous.
I'm sure Microsoft is on the case! Their legal department will just apply some of that famous 'Microsoft innovation' (TM, pat pend.) and replace 'Jesus Christ' with 'Bill Gates'.
There may be some initial consumer resistance to the new MS EULA, but that can be solved by initiating a hostile takeover of the major churches and exercising the vendor's 'right' to alter the agreement at any time.
Unless the true second coming of Christ can then find a way to take over Microsoft, only the Amish and users of Free Software will go to heaven when the world BSODs in the end-times.
Boy... it seems that a religious post seems to bring out all the nuts.
I think that this is a good idea. I see confession as being important to my faith. Why can't you people enjoy the idea of a relgion taking advantage of a bold new medium instead of making sarcastic remarks and stupid quips.
Live and let live.
-I just work here... how am I supposed to know?
Or will I have to compile it myself and then put "modprobe confessor" into my startup script?
I like to get my confessions out of the way immediately upon booting the machine, otherwise my transgression queue gets out of hand and I start losing clock cycles.
**>>BELCH
Come on you morons! Get cracking!
**>>BELCH
Did you use Instant Grits to make that fake puke? Threw in a few raisins and crushed nuts, a little ketchup maybe? Good man. Next time throw in just a touch of whiskey to give it the tangy zing of bile. Go forth and multiply. Pass 'GO' and collect $200.
**>>BELCH
Those 'confessions' may just be archived and used for someone's profitable writings someday.
I used to read a lot of psychology books w/ many 'case studies' and it suddenly hit me: here these shrinks are getting upwards of $120/hr to listen to people spill their guts, and then they can turn around and write these 'private' confessions in books, using pseudonyms of course, and sell them for more bucks. What a neat racket!
The Scarlet Pimpernel
try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
Why does crap like this get up on slashdot. Lately there stories seem to be less and less interesting.........
send flames > /dev/null
Only 'flamers' flame!
You can get your very own free Electronic Indulgence, at http://icodex.nethosting.com/indulge/.
Ryan
As a Minister of the ULC, I am authorized to, among other things, take confession and forgive your sins.
I will do this for free, via E-mail, though donations will be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely.
Rev. Mind.
...and you forgot Gnome vs KDE and GPL vs BSD
Hence, high speed prayers only. And who says that God loves the poor too....*sniff*
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Gonzo Granzeau
Gonzo Granzeau
"Nothing the god of biomechanics wouldn't let you into heaven for.." -Roy Batty
Unlike some place like Admitit.
George
"On the other hand, the early worm gets eaten."
``This is not what Catholics would understand as confession. Confession cannot be done by telephone, e-mail or proxy,'' a church spokesman told the Daily Telegraph newspaper in Thursday's editions.
500 some years ago, Martin Luther posted, on the door of the local church, a list of things he thought were really gronked up with the way the church was doing things. He had intended it to lead to a discussion with church officials; instead, it was the trigger that lead to Protestantism. The irony here is that one of the things he was protesting was the church's use "indulgences"; pay (cash) for your penance before you sin. No priest needed, thanks for praying, here's your change and thanks for shopping at Piety 'r' Us. Now the same church is protesting a variation on the same theme.
Here's a thought; how long before someone gets into the page and sets it up to respond to various "sins" in more interesting ways...
Forgive me, uh, father, for I have sinned. I've had impure thoughts about farm animals..."
WHAT?!? My GOD man, you are going straight to Hell!!!
"I'm a scientist! I don't think, I observe!" - Dr. Clayton Forrester
Everyone who is a true follower knows that is
not Jesus's web site. for His web site is
http://www.trog.com/jesus
Jesus rocks nads!
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
The correct URL for the page is:
http://www.theconfessor.co.uk/page0_new.html
If you go to the link in the article, and you
do not have javascript (I leave it off in my
browser) , it wont load. Just an empty page
(they use javascript to emulate a meta reload...
which is funny...since page0 as listed above starts a meta reload cycle to show you the other
stuff)
However weirdly....at page4.html it stops again
and there are no links or forwards or anything
just poorly done frames and a promise that I may
now contemplate my sins or "type them into the
space provided".
However, I see no space to type them in.
Anyway...since I don't believe in "Sin" (not
christian) I have nothing to contemplate. However
I just thought I would let people know so others
can see this site (for religous contemplation or
humor...whatever floats your boat) who don't
have javascript enabled.
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
I'd have to agree there, Nothing better than a quick confession to kurt@thepope.org to make me feel like I'm walking in the light again. Forget all these other silly confession sites, if you want to do it right get in contact with the pope. If I had moderator points, the parent topic of this post would be right on top. (Thats probably why I don't have points)
Looks like even "He" has bandwidth problems when it comes to being posted on /. :-)
...../......
Of course, if he doesn't get ransom from the site, he could always start blackmailing the individual "sinners"... this could end up being far more profitable for him than stealing any credit card database.
Stay up hacking each weekend. Sleep is for the week.
kwsNI
Now we have to endure the slow progression of messages at the web confessional, waiting and watching as messages slowly take you on a bread-crumb trail to your thoughts.
Welcome
In the next few pages...
Here is an opportunity...
By the grace of God...
And the whole thing is presented on a blue puffy-cloud sky background, like they're Jack Handey's Deep Thoughts. Or maybe it's supposed to scare you into repentance with the resemblance to the Windows boot screen.
Everything. OK! I'll talk! In third grade, I cheated on my history exam. In fourth grade, I stole my uncle Max's toupee and I glued it on my face when I was Moses in my Hebrew School play. In fifth grade, I knocked my sister Edie down the stairs and I blamed it on the dog...When my mom sent me to the summer camp for fat kids and then they served lunch I got nuts and I pigged out and they kicked me out...But the worst thing I ever done -- I mixed a pot of fake puke at home and then I went to this movie theater, hid the puke in my jacket, climbed up to the balcony and then, t-t-then, I made a noise like this: hua-hua-hua-huaaaaaaa -- and then I dumped it over the side, all over the people in the audience. And then, this was horrible, all the people started getting sick and throwing up all over each other. I never felt so bad in my entire life.
They have a little box that you can type your confession in, they claim that the information remains on your computer and is sent nowhere - wouldn't it be funny if they were actually recording each confession and having a great laugh on us?
"Dear Lord, I spilled hot grits down my pants"
"Dear Lord, I lusted after a petrified Natalie Portman"
"Dear Lord, FIRST CONFESSION d00dz!"
-josh
``This is not what Catholics would understand as confession. Confession cannot be done by telephone, e-mail or proxy,'' a church spokesman told the Daily Telegraph newspaper in Thursday's editions.
So it's obviously not valid if you are behind a firewall, but it should be fine without one, because it's port 80. Email might be ports 25, 109, 110, or 143. And remember that God will know the difference, because he most likely has passed the CCIE.
"In the first day, you will be given nothing, and you will be required to create the heavens and the earth. You have 4 hours to complete this test. Tomarrow, the Devil will break it and you will have to fix it once again, possibly using a virgin birth."
--
Gonzo Granzeau
Gonzo Granzeau
"Nothing the god of biomechanics wouldn't let you into heaven for.." -Roy Batty
Forgive me father for I am about to Troll
..
FIFTH POST BABY!!!!!!!!! .
MAYBE FIFTH POST!!!!
OK. IT'S NOT THE FIFTH POST!!!!!
Xth POST BABY!!!!!
OH YEAAH!!!! ALL THAT PUDDING
NATALIE PORTMAN CLOTHED AND UNPETRIFIED!!!!
GETTING GRITS OUT FROM MY PANTS!!!!!!
DEPETRIFYING YOUNG WOMEN!!!!
LARGE SLAP DADDY BEOWULF CLUSTERS BY THE BIG MAN GOD!!!!
IS THAT CONFESSOR PORTED TO LINUX YET!!!!!!
I BET GOD DOESN'T USE VIGOR!!!!!
EMACS IS BETTER!! NO vi IS BETTER!!!
CISC! NO RISC!
KILL! MAIM! FDISK!!
A:WINDOWS RULES!!!
B:LINUX RULES!!!
C: MAC OS!!!
A+B: SHUT UP, YOU!!
Sorry, this kinda stuff just festered. I feel much better now.
I'm not sure about you guys but I go straight to the man when I've got to confess someting!
http://thepope.org/
What do they think "teling them to god" means? Telling them to a priest to recive pennance? But a priest is just a proxy for god (proxy meaning "a person authorized to speak for or represent another")... so by their own words they've condemened their own practices.
Not really. A quick primer on the theory of the confessional, from a Roman Catholic perspective (disclaimer: no, I'm not Catholic, but I think I understand their theology well enough to explain it):
Yes, only God can forgive sin. Jesus, being God, had/has the authority to do this (and did so, as recorded in the Gospels). Now, he also delegated some of this authority to the apostles (see "binding and loosing"), and this is where modern-day bishops and priests claim to stand in persona christi, as proxies for Christ.
No, the Bible does not say that we must only confess our sins to God. "Confess your sins one to another." And the bit about the apostles being empowered to forgive on Christ's behalf is also biblical.
I also think you're misunderstanding what they mean by saying that "Confession can not be done ... by proxy." They are not referring to the priest, but to the penitent. In other words, if I've done something wrong and want absolution, I can't send my mom to tell the priest and ask him to pronounce forgiveness for me. I have to go myself and ask for myself.
There's a good argument that "cyber-confession" denies the Incarnational nature of God's grace, and this is why the Catholic Church officially condemns it as invalid and spiritually fraudulent. I think they are right to do so.
i have taken richard stallman's, eric raymond's, larry wall's, tom christiansen's, jon katz's, roblimo's, hemos's, cmdr taco's, natalie portman's and drew barrymore's names in vain, along with several others i can't even remember.
i have lusted in my heart for hot young actresses.
i have encouraged masturbation and marital infidelity.
i have stolen nearly an infinite number of moderation points.
i have murdered legitimate discussions.
i have uttered countless untruths.
please slashdot, redeem my eternal karma!!!
wiping tear from cheek.