Er, no. There isn't any free-use right in the UK. You aren't allowed to copy cd's at all. (By default of course - individual cd's may grant you that right).
Well I suppose if you are going that far, you might as well do the seperation properly. Put all the ui-independant stuff in libraries, then get the build process to build both frontends. Then you can package it up as "program-backend" "program-kde" "program-gtk", for those who use packages.
The only trouble I can see is that it would mean that your "backend" wouldn't be able to use qt/gtk libraries, which would be a major blow. I don't really know what the solution is to that problem, and I don't know how much typical programs use the libraries.
>Yeah, that's life. Freedom of speech is only >about protection from government interference. You are as crazy as Arandir. Would you say a country had freedom of speech is everyone who tried to say anything got killed? Doesn't matter if it's by the government or not.
And no, it's not just "that's life". There is a simple solution - allowing anonymous speech.
> Just because it's your right to speak out about something doesn't negate another's right to...take action against you.
Jeez, do you even listen to what you are saying?? If I say something, I should be forced to include my full name so that anyone can take 'action' against me.
I can't believe this. I feel like I've woken up and everyone is actually crazy! You can't mean what you say surely.
What if you need to send messages to other other people, to rally support? Or should you only do so if you are willing to sacrifice yourself over it? In this fairly tight economy, would you pick up a political cause that you believe in, knowing that your company wouldn't want it traced to one of their employees? I think that most people would look after their family before any political cause. So now they can't talk at all.
And what about if you want to expose your company anoymously? Write an article blowing the whistle on something, and you don't particulary want to burn all your bridges and put yourself in a position that noone will hire you?
How many times do you see on tv when you have someone in a dark room so noone can see them, talking about some bad experiance? What if you are being bullied and want to ask on forums for help, but don't want the bully to find out?
>Know of any country where the government does >not take a keener interest in your affairs if >you speak out against them?
uh, again you are proving the point even more. This is why we should have anonymous cowards. I might not get arrested for saying something, but I could lose my job or lose oportinuties, etc. If I am afraid of this, then that might discourage me from speaking out, restricting my freedom of speach.
>Of course, I live in a country where unpopular >political opinions (which do not advocate >violence) may get you spit upon, get you fired, >and get you audited by the taxman
The xml files it spits out? Does that mean that you could write an app that parses the glade xml and generate not only the gtk widgets on the fly (already possible) but also qt, with the user deciding which one they want? Now that would be cool:)
I read a week or so ago that mozilla's position was that nobody had yet written a plugin to support. When they do, then they'll discuss whether to include it officially.
I'm a worldforge developer (well, thats stretching it a lot, but I develop a game, and use their stuff). We get someone every week come in and tell us ab out their wonderful ideas. I'm not actually being sarcastic, because people do come up with really good ideas - you see game designs that people have mulled with for years.
However, always always always, people's ideas are too big:) Dream a little lower people, please. hehe
If you have a big idea for a game, think about how it could be achieved in tiny steps. Then write about it. It is unlikely anyone will just code it, but if the ideas are good, and it is small enough to implement, then it might be done. I'm one of those that code, but don't have the imagination to design:)
So what is a small game idea? Well, to test the MMRPG servers that were written, worldforge wrote.. a pig farming game. You buy,sell and raise pigs, and protect them from wolves. Fun, small, finishable. From there, it can be expanded, one chunk at a time. We have animated models now, standard templates so any texture will fit nicely on any model, ability to build buildings from building blocks as well as a proper physics model so if the building wall gets destroyed, or you didn't build it right, it falls over or collapses. The gui is worked on. The maths libraries. The connection code.
And so on. A huge huge amount of work and effort has gone into it. But at the end of the day the game was very simple and easy to do. But provides a small stepping stone for the next game, just a bit bigger.
That is how you have to make your game ideas in the opensource community.:)
Btw, if you think you don't have any skills, you are wrong. Everyone has skills that they can contribute to a project. Artists, muscians, writers, translators, testers (testers aren't really needed). But also people that take part in conversations of how to do the skills system, or the health, and so on.
Some people have pointed out that it syncronisation is horribly slow on smp machines, so perhaps making all swing methods synchronized isn't such a good idea...
it doesn't really matter, but that was just say if you were curious about killing, and wanted to start by seeing dead bodies...
Anyway, my point was simply that viewing pictures of naked children doesn't necessarily make the viewer go out and molest children. The grandparent was saying that seeing pics could encourage people to molest children. I was just liking this to the argument that seeing violent movies encourages violence, seeing murderers in films encourages killing, and so on.
Not all killers are motivated by $. By possessing movies of killing, the person is giving "aid and comfort" to killers.
Hollywood movies encourages those pervs inbetween who are potentially killers themselves. Since they can get these horrible movies, and since others find them desirable to share, then what is depicted must not be so bad..
* So why not look at a dead body? It's just looking. * Why not kill someone? It's not serious, movies say so.
>Someone collecting child pornography supports >the distributors of that child pornography.
Hmm, If I download mp3's for free, I'm destroying the music industry. But If I download child pornography pictures for free, I'm supporting the child pornography industry.
haha, my speciality ended up being Lotus Notes/Domino as well, but these days clients are asking for opensource solutions (cheapskates, rather than anything else heh).
Anyway, I'm trying to make the education a bit better in this respect. I'm taking a year out in a few months when I finish my degree, and I really hope I can make at least a small difference. It's going to take a long time to build up contacts and trust, and I don't have any kind of long term plan. I hope to at least be able to give interesting lectures to college and secondary kids.
and irc has channels which contained like minded inviduals, or churches in real life, and then there is email for talking to the like-minded inviduals..
Slashdot Mirror
Well you could always put your private key on the watch.
Hmm now that I think about it, that's a pretty good idea...
>if a post goes on Slashdot with a mispalling call 911 :(
I just tried to report your post, and they swore at me
You are allowed to make a "genuine" backup copy of software (I do not know if this includes cd's).
This does _not_ include encoding your cd as mp3's.
http://ukcdr.org/faq/#fairuse_mediashifting
er this whole conversation was based around whether you should be _forced_ to put your full name on something.
Er, no. There isn't any free-use right in the UK. You aren't allowed to copy cd's at all. (By default of course - individual cd's may grant you that right).
Statistically it is enough tho, as long as the 70 were picked fairly (randomly).
Well I suppose if you are going that far, you might as well do the seperation properly.
Put all the ui-independant stuff in libraries, then get the build process to build both frontends. Then you can package it up as "program-backend" "program-kde" "program-gtk", for those who use packages.
The only trouble I can see is that it would mean that your "backend" wouldn't be able to use qt/gtk libraries, which would be a major blow. I don't really know what the solution is to that problem, and I don't know how much typical programs use the libraries.
See my post to Arandir...
>Yeah, that's life. Freedom of speech is only >about protection from government interference.
You are as crazy as Arandir.
Would you say a country had freedom of speech is everyone who tried to say anything got killed? Doesn't matter if it's by the government or not.
And no, it's not just "that's life". There is a simple solution - allowing anonymous speech.
> Just because it's your right to speak out about something doesn't negate another's right to...take action against you.
Jeez, do you even listen to what you are saying?? If I say something, I should be forced to include my full name so that anyone can take 'action' against me.
I can't believe this. I feel like I've woken up and everyone is actually crazy! You can't mean what you say surely.
What if you need to send messages to other other people, to rally support? Or should you only do so if you are willing to sacrifice yourself over it?
In this fairly tight economy, would you pick up a political cause that you believe in, knowing that your company wouldn't want it traced to one of their employees?
I think that most people would look after their family before any political cause. So now they can't talk at all.
And what about if you want to expose your company anoymously? Write an article blowing the whistle on something, and you don't particulary want to burn all your bridges and put yourself in a position that noone will hire you?
How many times do you see on tv when you have someone in a dark room so noone can see them, talking about some bad experiance?
What if you are being bullied and want to ask on forums for help, but don't want the bully to find out?
I really hope you are just trolling me...
>Know of any country where the government does >not take a keener interest in your affairs if >you speak out against them?
uh, again you are proving the point even more. This is why we should have anonymous cowards.
I might not get arrested for saying something, but I could lose my job or lose oportinuties, etc.
If I am afraid of this, then that might discourage me from speaking out, restricting my freedom of speach.
>Of course, I live in a country where unpopular >political opinions (which do not advocate >violence) may get you spit upon, get you fired, >and get you audited by the taxman
I think you just argued against your point.
The xml files it spits out? :)
Does that mean that you could write an app that parses the glade xml and generate not only the gtk widgets on the fly (already possible) but also qt, with the user deciding which one they want?
Now that would be cool
perhaps I should modify it to indicate that I'm in the uk, where it is indeed illegal.
I read a week or so ago that mozilla's position was that nobody had yet written a plugin to support. When they do, then they'll discuss whether to include it officially.
I'm a worldforge developer (well, thats stretching it a lot, but I develop a game, and use their stuff).
:) Dream a little lower people, please. hehe
:)
:)
We get someone every week come in and tell us ab out their wonderful ideas.
I'm not actually being sarcastic, because people do come up with really good ideas - you see game designs that people have mulled with for years.
However, always always always, people's ideas are too big
If you have a big idea for a game, think about how it could be achieved in tiny steps. Then write about it. It is unlikely anyone will just code it, but if the ideas are good, and it is small enough to implement, then it might be done. I'm one of those that code, but don't have the imagination to design
So what is a small game idea? Well, to test the MMRPG servers that were written, worldforge wrote.. a pig farming game. You buy,sell and raise pigs, and protect them from wolves. Fun, small, finishable.
From there, it can be expanded, one chunk at a time. We have animated models now, standard templates so any texture will fit nicely on any model, ability to build buildings from building blocks as well as a proper physics model so if the building wall gets destroyed, or you didn't build it right, it falls over or collapses. The gui is worked on. The maths libraries. The connection code.
And so on. A huge huge amount of work and effort has gone into it. But at the end of the day the game was very simple and easy to do. But provides a small stepping stone for the next game, just a bit bigger.
That is how you have to make your game ideas in the opensource community.
Btw, if you think you don't have any skills, you are wrong. Everyone has skills that they can contribute to a project. Artists, muscians, writers, translators, testers (testers aren't really needed). But also people that take part in conversations of how to do the skills system, or the health, and so on.
Some people have pointed out that it syncronisation is horribly slow on smp machines, so perhaps making all swing methods synchronized isn't such a good idea...
just taking the comment " download and share the porn, and you are supporting those who took the photographs."
Do you think that they photographers would say "oh, nobody is viewing my work, I'll stop doing it", or what exactly?
it doesn't really matter, but that was just say if you were curious about killing, and wanted to start by seeing dead bodies...
Anyway, my point was simply that viewing pictures of naked children doesn't necessarily make the viewer go out and molest children.
The grandparent was saying that seeing pics could encourage people to molest children.
I was just liking this to the argument that seeing violent movies encourages violence, seeing murderers in films encourages killing, and so on.
>set fire to a pallet of cardboard boxes behind a Wal-Mart. Guess who got grilled the hardest?
The pallet of cardboard boxes?
Not all killers are motivated by $. By possessing movies of killing, the person is giving "aid and comfort" to killers.
Hollywood movies encourages those pervs inbetween who are potentially killers themselves. Since they can get these horrible movies, and since others find them desirable to share, then what is depicted must not be so bad..
* So why not look at a dead body? It's just looking.
* Why not kill someone? It's not serious, movies say so.
Does that make things clearer for you?
>Someone collecting child pornography supports >the distributors of that child pornography.
Hmm, If I download mp3's for free, I'm destroying the music industry. But If I download child pornography pictures for free, I'm supporting the child pornography industry.
Send me an email - tapselj0 AT cs.man.ac.uk
haha, my speciality ended up being Lotus Notes/Domino as well, but these days clients are asking for opensource solutions (cheapskates, rather than anything else heh).
Anyway, I'm trying to make the education a bit better in this respect. I'm taking a year out in a few months when I finish my degree, and I really hope I can make at least a small difference. It's going to take a long time to build up contacts and trust, and I don't have any kind of long term plan. I hope to at least be able to give interesting lectures to college and secondary kids.
and irc has channels which contained like minded inviduals, or churches in real life, and then there is email for talking to the like-minded inviduals..
That's like saying that in the days before the internet people used to read to find out information, so stop using google and read instead.