It should be a wake up call that our current methods of trying to get users to pick secure passwords are a total failure.
You're trying to change human nature. Any time we can get away with being lazy, we will be lazy. It's the law of entropy. You need to come up with something miraculous to get us to stop following it. Good luck with that.
Using your email as the password was always stupid. Why do you even require a password!?
Back in the distant past, people ran FTP servers which let anyone grab stuff off them "for the common good" (eg., tsx-11.mit.edu). You logged in as username "anonymous" and password "your email address." It was just the polite thing to do for someone letting you use their ftp server to get neat stuff from them.
I'm not surprised this's foreign to anyone these days.
One might say western judges have a greater sense of procedural necessities like attorney-client or judicial privilige. But judges have been ground down over the years by the stick of overturned-on-appeal and the carrot of higher appointments. Judges routinely accept any intelligent or independant juror being rejected, and AFAIK none will instruct a jury on their [still legal] nullification power. Even some of the USSC rulings are bizzarely in favor of govt (property seizure).
Yes, and prosecutors can generally get away with murder. There is no check on their power that can stick.
Why can't these people govern themselves without state thugs snatching people in the night?
That'd take all the fun out of it. You want your victims pissing their pants while they're still half asleep and verging on a heart attack when you paint them with a laser sight. How else are they going to learn the lesson? Besides, it's safer for everyone involved since it's far less likely that you've armed yourself and are ready for them.
That would be a more convincing statement if every Apple competitor wasn't copying the designs of their products. Now all the laptops are aping the MacBook Air. It's ridiculous.
No, what's ridiculous is you defending Apple when it's suing the world and their dogs for Look & Feel lipstick and mascara. Every newspaper looks a lot like all other newspapers. Every car has a steering wheel and four wheels.
Every iBauble has Apple's trademark icon prominently displayed. How is anyone going to confuse $blah with an iBauble?
Compete on technical merit and features, not litigate over presentation. Or maybe that's expecting too much of Apple?
It's just that I've been laughing about the way people idolize *nix for over thirteen years now (BSD people have always been the funniest) and I need to update my punchline.
Please, chuckle away. What would you suggest would be a better implementation? MS-DOS C:, D:,... a la VMS?
But let me quote Jamie Zwarinski here:
"If you'd told me in 1980 that Unix was the future of operating systems, I'd have cut my throat."
I imagine you meant Jamie Zawinski. Cool. It's been a long time since I first heard of him. I'm a fan. However, even brilliant geniuses have their blind spots. Maybe he was hoping for more than is possible.
The root superuser concept and the ugo/rwxS file access control system are antique abominations that Ritchie and Kernighan et al. certainly did not get right...
How so? What's wrong with it? Have you ever spent any time playing with the abomination that is PowerBroker?
... and the greatest thing about linux and MacOS is that they aren't really unix - they are significantly improved, with (for example) modern virtual memory subsystems, Ted T'so's work on capabilities, the NSA's work on privileges, support for non-unix filesystem semantics...
Ah, you're quibbling. That any of that's even possible is because of the way Unix was designed and implemented. Of course we can serve up a Samba filesystem and make it look like a Windows filesystem, because everything's a file and all we have to do is pipe its contents through a filter that produces output that Windows will understand. Smiple [sic].
I do agree with every word you say on Apple though. Fatuous is an understatement. For me, barratry ("the offense of vexatiously persisting in inciting lawsuits and quarrels") comes to mind.
I used to recommend Macs to family and friends. No more.
... all of which is why it is so surreal for me to see Apple's litigation Armageddon over Look & Feel design patents. OS X relies on all that brilliant engineering and plumbing behind the wall that was invented decades ago, but they litigate over the lipstick and mascara they put on top? Did they just not get what they were told in the '90s the last time they went through this? Dumth.
Only two things scare me, and one of them is nuclear war.
You lack imagination. If the initial blast gets you, your troubles are over before you have time to even think about it. A lingering death from radiation poisoning taking weeks for you to slowly waste away would be sheer hell.
I'll take a Mack truck in the back of the head any day over lots of other ways to go out.
Historically, BSD has been considered a branch of UNIX—"BSD UNIX", because it shared the initial codebase and design with the original AT&T UNIX operating system.
... meaning we go back to AT&T Unix, making it a forty-three year old OS. I like to think of it as Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie, Brian Kernighan, Douglas McIlroy, Michael Lesk and Joe Ossanna got it (OS design) right, and so right that even Steve "the ultimate salesman" Jobs could see it, and he saw it long before OS X existed. NeXT was founded in '85, and that's almost 30 years ago!
That's pretty damned right.:-) I'm glad it happened in my lifetime. It's a hell of a story.
I guess that's one of the risks if your company chooses to focus on creating and pushing absolutely identical clones of one product, instead of providing a range of devices with different options and hardware from competing manufacturers...
I think it's really sad to see Apple relying on that whiny "YOU COPIED OUR IP" BS after reinventing itself post-OS9. Apple is doing very well financially. It thinks it's got great products that beat the competition, and they're selling like hotcakes. So why litigate? Bored? Greedy? Can't stand to see anyone else succeed?
I just think it's bullshit to complain about Apple's abuse of patents because they seek to ban SOME devices from ONE manufacturer, while Google seeks to prevent the sale of EVERY Apple computer and iOS device.
I don't. If someone slaps you, don't slap them back. Hit 'em with a baseball bat!
If Apple wants to litigate a la Nuclear, hit 'em back with everything you've got until they come to their senses. It's just an expensive education. Sometimes, a Cluebyfour is what's needed.
I do find these homophobic analogies odd. Are people here really so limited with their descriptive abilities that this is the best we can come up with?
I'm Canuck. We used to have nothing but "Newfie" (Newfoundlanders) jokes going on around here. They disappeared and were replaced with "Polack" (Polish) jokes, then there were the Biafran,... then I can't remember what came next.
Yes, it's all very stupid. "Homos" are just today's flavour/stars. Me, I prefer Russia's black humour. That's great stuff.
Absolutely my point. Hitler's supporters, like Google supporters saw their acts of aggression as acts of defense.
Interesting. Japan considered themselves backed into a corner too, even while they were running roughshod over most of the Western Pacific.
"... like Google supporters..."?!? WTF?!? Google has always tried to avoid, not instigate, litigation. No, I'm not a google fanboi; I don't use anything they offer. "Hitler's supporters, like Google supporters..."?!? Jeebus, some of you people are out there.
Christ, can't we just start shooting all the lawyers and get this over with?
I'm afraid not. See, lawyers are humans, so you're talking homocide. I sympathise with your frustration, but there actually are good/decent lawyers out there (NewYorkCountyLawyer, I'm lookin' at you).
Besides, the usual way to go about it is not shooting them. It's "... ten thousand lawyers at the bottom of the ocean."
I suggest just making popcorn and enjoying the show, or doing something that will fix US tort law. Chyaa, right.
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It should be a wake up call that our current methods of trying to get users to pick secure passwords are a total failure.
You're trying to change human nature. Any time we can get away with being lazy, we will be lazy. It's the law of entropy. You need to come up with something miraculous to get us to stop following it. Good luck with that.
Using your email as the password was always stupid. Why do you even require a password!?
Back in the distant past, people ran FTP servers which let anyone grab stuff off them "for the common good" (eg., tsx-11.mit.edu). You logged in as username "anonymous" and password "your email address." It was just the polite thing to do for someone letting you use their ftp server to get neat stuff from them.
I'm not surprised this's foreign to anyone these days.
Plenty of men have been fucking up for years trying to keep women happy and still have not learned how yet....
Hey princess, the same can be said about women in the opposite direction. We're not the ones who're still wearing warpaint.
New Sealand, you probably mean.
Nope. See this.
in soviet russia we miscarriage you!
"soviet russia" is so last century. You need a new meme.
One might say western judges have a greater sense of procedural necessities like attorney-client or judicial privilige. But judges have been ground down over the years by the stick of overturned-on-appeal and the carrot of higher appointments. Judges routinely accept any intelligent or independant juror being rejected, and AFAIK none will instruct a jury on their [still legal] nullification power. Even some of the USSC rulings are bizzarely in favor of govt (property seizure).
Yes, and prosecutors can generally get away with murder. There is no check on their power that can stick.
Interesting. I knew about Putin and Bush senior. I didn't know about Blair, Sarkozy, Berlusconi, or Cooper (not that Cooper matters much here).
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in Russia
You ignorant git. I'm shaking my head in astonishment that anyone could be as dense as you.
From the article it is evident that she made precise measurements with lab equipment and presented them in court.
The prosecution is accusing her of having reported on biased test results. Make lots of tests, but only report the lowest detected concentrations.
Any of her colleagues could have repeated those measurements.
Or, just start over with their own sampling and testing.
I'm guessing corrupt prosecutor. He hasn't seen enough tithe in his bank account, so she's going down.
Why can't these people govern themselves without state thugs snatching people in the night?
That'd take all the fun out of it. You want your victims pissing their pants while they're still half asleep and verging on a heart attack when you paint them with a laser sight. How else are they going to learn the lesson? Besides, it's safer for everyone involved since it's far less likely that you've armed yourself and are ready for them.
IIRC, the bourgoise were the 1% of their age.
You don't. From "dict bourgeois": A size of type between long primer and brevier. Also: A man of middle rank in society; one of the shopkeeping class.
Please accept the "Holy crap, I wish I'd said that!" award of the day. Good job.
Nice smackdown, mon. Good job.
That would be a more convincing statement if every Apple competitor wasn't copying the designs of their products. Now all the laptops are aping the MacBook Air. It's ridiculous.
No, what's ridiculous is you defending Apple when it's suing the world and their dogs for Look & Feel lipstick and mascara. Every newspaper looks a lot like all other newspapers. Every car has a steering wheel and four wheels.
Every iBauble has Apple's trademark icon prominently displayed. How is anyone going to confuse $blah with an iBauble?
Compete on technical merit and features, not litigate over presentation. Or maybe that's expecting too much of Apple?
It's just that I've been laughing about the way people idolize *nix for over thirteen years now (BSD people have always been the funniest) and I need to update my punchline.
Please, chuckle away. What would you suggest would be a better implementation? MS-DOS C:, D:, ... a la VMS?
But let me quote Jamie Zwarinski here:
"If you'd told me in 1980 that Unix was the future of operating systems, I'd have cut my throat."
I imagine you meant Jamie Zawinski. Cool. It's been a long time since I first heard of him. I'm a fan. However, even brilliant geniuses have their blind spots. Maybe he was hoping for more than is possible.
The root superuser concept and the ugo/rwxS file access control system are antique abominations that Ritchie and Kernighan et al. certainly did not get right ...
How so? What's wrong with it? Have you ever spent any time playing with the abomination that is PowerBroker?
... and the greatest thing about linux and MacOS is that they aren't really unix - they are significantly improved, with (for example) modern virtual memory subsystems, Ted T'so's work on capabilities, the NSA's work on privileges, support for non-unix filesystem semantics ...
Ah, you're quibbling. That any of that's even possible is because of the way Unix was designed and implemented. Of course we can serve up a Samba filesystem and make it look like a Windows filesystem, because everything's a file and all we have to do is pipe its contents through a filter that produces output that Windows will understand. Smiple [sic].
I do agree with every word you say on Apple though. Fatuous is an understatement. For me, barratry ("the offense of vexatiously persisting in inciting lawsuits and quarrels") comes to mind.
I used to recommend Macs to family and friends. No more.
And by competition you mean copying.
You just can't admit it.
And by copying, you mean lipstick and mascara, Look & Feel, Design Patents.
Admit it.
... all of which is why it is so surreal for me to see Apple's litigation Armageddon over Look & Feel design patents. OS X relies on all that brilliant engineering and plumbing behind the wall that was invented decades ago, but they litigate over the lipstick and mascara they put on top? Did they just not get what they were told in the '90s the last time they went through this? Dumth.
Only two things scare me, and one of them is nuclear war.
You lack imagination. If the initial blast gets you, your troubles are over before you have time to even think about it. A lingering death from radiation poisoning taking weeks for you to slowly waste away would be sheer hell.
I'll take a Mack truck in the back of the head any day over lots of other ways to go out.
Meanwhile, Apple is innovating beyond all the rest combined.
Yes, they've got a much more innovative rehashing of a 30 year old operating system than anyone else!
Please pardon my pedantry but:
Historically, BSD has been considered a branch of UNIX—"BSD UNIX", because it shared the initial codebase and design with the original AT&T UNIX operating system.
... meaning we go back to AT&T Unix, making it a forty-three year old OS. I like to think of it as Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie, Brian Kernighan, Douglas McIlroy, Michael Lesk and Joe Ossanna got it (OS design) right , and so right that even Steve "the ultimate salesman" Jobs could see it, and he saw it long before OS X existed. NeXT was founded in '85, and that's almost 30 years ago!
That's pretty damned right. :-) I'm glad it happened in my lifetime. It's a hell of a story.
I guess that's one of the risks if your company chooses to focus on creating and pushing absolutely identical clones of one product, instead of providing a range of devices with different options and hardware from competing manufacturers ...
I think it's really sad to see Apple relying on that whiny "YOU COPIED OUR IP" BS after reinventing itself post-OS9. Apple is doing very well financially. It thinks it's got great products that beat the competition, and they're selling like hotcakes. So why litigate? Bored? Greedy? Can't stand to see anyone else succeed?
I just think it's bullshit to complain about Apple's abuse of patents because they seek to ban SOME devices from ONE manufacturer, while Google seeks to prevent the sale of EVERY Apple computer and iOS device.
I don't. If someone slaps you, don't slap them back. Hit 'em with a baseball bat!
If Apple wants to litigate a la Nuclear, hit 'em back with everything you've got until they come to their senses. It's just an expensive education. Sometimes, a Cluebyfour is what's needed.
I do find these homophobic analogies odd. Are people here really so limited with their descriptive abilities that this is the best we can come up with?
I'm Canuck. We used to have nothing but "Newfie" (Newfoundlanders) jokes going on around here. They disappeared and were replaced with "Polack" (Polish) jokes, then there were the Biafran, ... then I can't remember what came next.
Yes, it's all very stupid. "Homos" are just today's flavour/stars. Me, I prefer Russia's black humour. That's great stuff.
Absolutely my point. Hitler's supporters, like Google supporters saw their acts of aggression as acts of defense.
Interesting. Japan considered themselves backed into a corner too, even while they were running roughshod over most of the Western Pacific.
"... like Google supporters ..."?!? WTF?!? Google has always tried to avoid, not instigate, litigation. No, I'm not a google fanboi; I don't use anything they offer. "Hitler's supporters, like Google supporters ..."?!? Jeebus, some of you people are out there.
From Apple's point of view, copying the iPhone was an act of aggression.
Yeah, and copying the tablet from 2001: A Space Odyssey and ST:TNG was just innovation in action. Please fix your legal system.
Christ, can't we just start shooting all the lawyers and get this over with?
I'm afraid not. See, lawyers are humans, so you're talking homocide. I sympathise with your frustration, but there actually are good/decent lawyers out there (NewYorkCountyLawyer, I'm lookin' at you).
Besides, the usual way to go about it is not shooting them. It's "... ten thousand lawyers at the bottom of the ocean."
I suggest just making popcorn and enjoying the show, or doing something that will fix US tort law. Chyaa, right.