To my opinion, the development/migration/adaption of such equipment would exceed time (and therefor cost).
Have you asked the experts in the field (knowledgable IT people), or has all the discussion gone on between medical doctors sitting around a table, or worse salesmen from vendors? I wouldn't doubt it. How are they supposed to know what's possible?
We are talking about life-critical machines here, which need to undergo rigorous tests, before used on humans. I don't even believe, most of these machines got computer connectivity to start with...
As I said, you will have problemmatic exceptions, however, if it's got a serial port interface, you can bolt a computer onto the side of the thing. How does it communicate to the outside world now? How are its results transmitted to its operators?
An example from my experience: I recently worked with a small high-tech startup building a MySQL database and perl program to interface with an RFID tag reader. The whole of that took one IT guy a few weeks, and it worked flawlessly and robustly.
We have small embedded systems controlling power grids, hydroelectric dams, and robotic assembly lines. Some of them are (often foolishly) even internet accessible. This stuff has been in place for a long time and has been rigorously tested, just like NTP. This is not bleeding edge tech. It's just been ignored so far, despite what it could be doing for you.
Do you really want your few IT resources wasting time running around syncing time on all your devices when they could be fixing even bigger problems for you? I'm not suggesting any of these ideas are a magic bullet that'll make all your problems disappear, but from an IT guy's point of view, you haven't really even been trying. The lawyers and insurance companies and regulatory agencies have made you too afraid to try anything new. You need to cut through all of that baggage somehow.
If IT can help you cut out some of the chaff in the system, your insurance companies would love you for it. If we could build in efficiencies which freed up resources you could better use elsewhere, you'd love it. If the whole thing starts working better, your ambulance chasing lawyers will find themselves with nothing to do.
I imagine the NIST could do that for you. Have them run a pilot project at a military or VA hospital (funded by a consortium of hospitals and insurance companies and universities). Once it's shown to work, roll it out to a civilian hospital pilot project, rinse, repeat.
Implement NTP in a machine, which mostly doesn't even support ethernet in the first place?
1) Implement NTP.
2) Note those machines which appear to have no way to do NTP over ethernet as exceptions.
Now, tell me that doesn't sort out > 90% of your time problems leaving you with a few exceptions which need to be handled individually.
No ethernet? How about USB or serial ports? I used modems to connect to the net well into this century. I didn't even bother to pick up on WiFi until a couple of years ago (didn't need it at the time).
If you hired the right people to take care of this for you, you needn't trouble yourself with all the voodoo that you think it is. I know, that's a pretty big problem in itself, but you can build up the capability over time. Your mountains should be tamed to molehills in no time, leaving you to deal with what you should be dealing with; your specialty.
I've watched accountants transcribe a column of numbers in a spreadsheet into a desktop calculator to sum the column. They can't even use the software they've got! What difference would it make to give them another suite of software they can't use, but which would be vastly cheaper and work just as well (or better)?
I no longer have any patience for this shit. I don't believe a word of that BS about introducing another suite would lead to insurmountable problems for the users. They already think this stuff is voodoo and they'll need days or weeks to train themselves up to using different stuff. BS. They can't use what they're using now. They're the problem.
You obviously have little experience in education.
My sister's a twenty year veteran elementary school teacher. I've heard all about it.
IT challenge is related to gov't regulation how?
Lawyers and doctors still use fax, because faxed signatures are accepted for legal purposes. Both legal and medical professions have draconian requirements for client and patient data protection. Just read any story related to medicine or law and note their paranoia about connecting *anything* to the Internet. If it's not regulatorily required, it's fear of being sued.
And please do tell how this unspoken rational outweighs simply being cash strapped and crisis focused?
I don't believe they are cash strapped. Their systems are *too fat*. Your doctors routinely prescribe test after test at every point of treatment because they're terrified of being sued for lack of due diligence. That doesn't happen here (Canada).
Our system's too fat too because we don't pay for it (ha, ha), the gov't does, so doctors think nothing of paying $10.00 for a plastic bottle that can be had for a buck anywhere else. They get away with it because any criticism of the system is perceived knee-jerk style as an attack on the publicly funded healthcare system.
Sorry to burst your bubble. Not everyone with criticisms is hoping to put your Tea Party in charge to fix it.
How would that change anything? It just makes all the clocks on the hospital go wrong when it starts to move to wrong times on the NTP server.
You can have one local timeserver that syncs with external trusted servers (nist.gov). All of your local devices can sync with your local ntp server.
Updating it from public sources is out of question too. Think about someone injecting completely wrong time to the hospital.
NTP is *pull*, not push. We've had decades now to bulletproof NTP. It will be pretty easy to nail an NTP server down so it's only going to be serving NTP.
The medical and legal professions are the most IT challenged disciplines I've ever seen, but that may be largely due to excessive gov't regulation.
[(]I do, however, reserve the right to take that back; for up to six months...)
So, I guess we'll put you down in the "faint praise" column? Golf clap? What a cowardly pat on the back that is. In case you didn't notice, it worked!:-|
If they were only downloading and not sharing how did they get caught?
A few million bucks change hands and Verizon hands over their logs. Or the user may have been bragging on torrentfreak, or he mentioned it to others on Spacebook,...
Your response was hysterical. Unfortunately, it seems that the people with mod points didn't read carefully.
I suspect they've probably never heard of the word "Engrish." "Transration" should have been a dead giveaway.
You should have been modded "+5, Funny".
Agreed.
Instead you're at "-1". Bummer.
Now at zero, on his way back up. Come on, metamods.
And may I say, you're not one of the lawyers I want to see at the bottom of the ocean. Just sayin'.
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If the measure of a troll is how seriously people take it, GP's doing very well...
"First, they fight you,...":-)
And then they send you goatse, if Slashdot's any indication...
Beats 4chan./.'s an aquired taste. There's no requirement to take any of it seriously. Where else can you find this many nutbars all in the same place? Computer !@#$, then philosophy, then history, then Aussies (or Russians or Chinese or Latvians,...), then particle physics, then DHS/ICE/TSA crap, then MafiAA,... My worst nightmares aren't as entertaining as you people are (and I have great nightmares:-).
I've enjoyed/appreciated what I've read of his stuff. As for making stuff up, I think they all may be guilty of that to some degree. Everyone comes to the party dragging some baggage. Does he report truth more than making stuff up? That's all you should be asking.
People can be put in contempt of court, not companies.
That's why companies come with boards of directors. The CEO, or chairman of the board, or CTO should suffice nicely. Of course, the corporate lawyers ought to be on the hook too since they're advising the board.
Maybe we can just ship the executive staff off to a nice resort in the carribean.
Too easy. I wonder what the Russians are doing with the Gulag Archipelago these days. Solzhenitsyn wrote that great book, yet no-one hears about it any more. Has that been decommisioned? Surely, there's room in Lubyanka these days?
A Siberian winter should wake them up. Or kill 'em; whatever.
Dude, it's done something like $1 billion in box office revenue, and this is Slashdot... do you really think anybody needs a link to know who the hell Iron Man is?
If he hadn't, someone else would have kvetched at him demanding "[citation needed]" and "pics, or it didn't happen!"
And man, I can't remember reading so many negative comments accompanying an article. If the thing goes sideways, it's going to be all over really fast! Like Mac Truck in the back of the head fast. Feature. It almost sounds like you people want to live forever.
You "'Strailians" have no idea how sexy (attractive) that place looks from here.
... and goddam Paul Hogan
Sir, up to that point, I was smiling dreamily at your words, however don't you dare diss Hogan! He's like a god here. He took on New York, and made them like him. Mick Dundee is one of the best things that ever happened, ever! Don't make me come down there to slap sense into you. We wear stainless steel blades on our feet up here you know?:-|
I imagine hockey looks every bit as exotic to you guys as rugby or Australian rules football looks to us.
... for the myth that Australia is desert and that we all live in Tin Sheds, with pet Kangaroos.
And it's a three day bicycle ride to the neighbour's place. I've seen the Simpsons episode. Do your toilets really flush counter-clockwise? Yuk, yuk, yuk,...
... though some of the Aboriginal Communities suffer from self inflicted and seemingly voluntarily 3rd world conditions
I spent this afternoon sitting on a park bench with a couple of our native people. It was one of the best days I've had in a while. We had a great time. Ojibway and Blackfoot. He looked just like I imagine Sitting Bull looked. Great nose! I tried to learn some of their language, and they tried to teach me, but it seems nothing stuck. Drat.
Yeah, it often seems like they're self-inflicting themselves with misery. In reality, they're just waiting for us to leave.:-)
... besides, we're surrounded by a REALLY BIG MOAT
Ha; very funny! A few of them, actually. The Japanese almost got you in WWII though (and I'm glad they didn't).
... Canada, which, as you rightly pointed out, is way WAY too cold).
June, July, August, and September are usually not that bad; pleasant even. Often, October, November and even December can be decent. January and February *always* suck horribly (-42 C). So, March, April, and May are the only chancy ones.
Then again, I've driven through blizzards in August.
Julian Assange, Aussie Senator. Huh. That'd definitely cause a ruckus in some circles. Have fun with that.
"Belonga Mick." Mick's place. You guys crack me up.:-)
Sanitize the data to protect the innocent? That's a complete load of shit.
You really don't have any clue as to what we're talking about. Clue: raw data from $somewhere contains the *real names* of *real people*, whose names should not be disclosed to the $badguys. Those real people may be CIA operatives or confidential informants or *our people* who have jobs with *their gov't.* We don't want to compromise people who're helping us by supplying us with intel or doing *other nice stuff that we want done.* Duh. Go read some Sun Tsu, ffs.
If that doesn't make any sense to you, think of WWII and William Stephenson (Intrepid) and French Maquis behind Nazi lines. Secrecy was paramount to them, and whole towns could be decimated in retribution for a successful op.
I assume he was trying to figure out how to do it. He was inventing. I've been there.
All the encryption and other technologies have been [in] use for years.
Inventing *the process of leaking info* (wikileaks), not inventing tech. And no, leaking info is not that simple. Look at the mess he's in right now if you don't believe me.
Bradley Manning's considered a traitor by many for what he's done. "Whistleblower", chyaaa, right.
You appear to be avoiding the obvious and so far appear intent on remaining ignorant. I wonder why. Open your eyes.
Because even with capitialization, bars, accents and so on, 26 letters just isn't enough.
Don't get me wrong. I think it's beautiful (a nicely formed equation, that is).
Still, it's too damned opaque. Only "the initiated" get it. Morons should be able to look at it and have a chance to understand it. We all complain that not enough of "us" get this stuff, but if it's phrased in a language that's foreign to mortals, is that any surprise?
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If the measure of a troll is how seriously people take it, GP's doing very well...
Journaling makes sense for servers; not so much for personal boxes.
I'm sorry my friend but you must be insane.
Possibly. The jury's still out on that.
I don't go uncleanly powering off my boxes intentionally but it still happens a couple times over the course of a month for various reasons (power flickers and the like).
Yeah, and it boots into "fix me!" state, and you fsck the ptns. And it works. Every time. Every friggin time!:-) I've never had it fail to fix a confused ptn. I'm reminded of a job/contract I did with City of Calgary, where the first thing I was asked to do was to sort out a confused AIX box. Same thing. It worked. ext2 works just as well.
It may be that ext2 doesn't *spin* as fast as new tech (Android, iBaubles,...) needs it to, but for me, on my hardware, for what I do with them, it spins way fast enough.
Then again, I may be insane.:-) No apologies. Linus, may you live forever, and may your grandchildren have many grandchildren!:-) I'll kiss your feet if you ever show up in my neighbourhood (fair warning).
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To my opinion, the development/migration/adaption of such equipment would exceed time (and therefor cost).
Have you asked the experts in the field (knowledgable IT people), or has all the discussion gone on between medical doctors sitting around a table, or worse salesmen from vendors? I wouldn't doubt it. How are they supposed to know what's possible?
We are talking about life-critical machines here, which need to undergo rigorous tests, before used on humans. I don't even believe, most of these machines got computer connectivity to start with...
As I said, you will have problemmatic exceptions, however, if it's got a serial port interface, you can bolt a computer onto the side of the thing. How does it communicate to the outside world now? How are its results transmitted to its operators?
An example from my experience: I recently worked with a small high-tech startup building a MySQL database and perl program to interface with an RFID tag reader. The whole of that took one IT guy a few weeks, and it worked flawlessly and robustly.
We have small embedded systems controlling power grids, hydroelectric dams, and robotic assembly lines. Some of them are (often foolishly) even internet accessible. This stuff has been in place for a long time and has been rigorously tested, just like NTP. This is not bleeding edge tech. It's just been ignored so far, despite what it could be doing for you.
Do you really want your few IT resources wasting time running around syncing time on all your devices when they could be fixing even bigger problems for you? I'm not suggesting any of these ideas are a magic bullet that'll make all your problems disappear, but from an IT guy's point of view, you haven't really even been trying. The lawyers and insurance companies and regulatory agencies have made you too afraid to try anything new. You need to cut through all of that baggage somehow.
If IT can help you cut out some of the chaff in the system, your insurance companies would love you for it. If we could build in efficiencies which freed up resources you could better use elsewhere, you'd love it. If the whole thing starts working better, your ambulance chasing lawyers will find themselves with nothing to do.
Call me a Pollyanna.
But you need to prove this to the FDA.
I imagine the NIST could do that for you. Have them run a pilot project at a military or VA hospital (funded by a consortium of hospitals and insurance companies and universities). Once it's shown to work, roll it out to a civilian hospital pilot project, rinse, repeat.
Implement NTP in a machine, which mostly doesn't even support ethernet in the first place?
1) Implement NTP.
2) Note those machines which appear to have no way to do NTP over ethernet as exceptions.
Now, tell me that doesn't sort out > 90% of your time problems leaving you with a few exceptions which need to be handled individually.
No ethernet? How about USB or serial ports? I used modems to connect to the net well into this century. I didn't even bother to pick up on WiFi until a couple of years ago (didn't need it at the time).
If you hired the right people to take care of this for you, you needn't trouble yourself with all the voodoo that you think it is. I know, that's a pretty big problem in itself, but you can build up the capability over time. Your mountains should be tamed to molehills in no time, leaving you to deal with what you should be dealing with; your specialty.
There is no excuse for failing to implement it.
They don't want an excuse.
I've watched accountants transcribe a column of numbers in a spreadsheet into a desktop calculator to sum the column. They can't even use the software they've got! What difference would it make to give them another suite of software they can't use, but which would be vastly cheaper and work just as well (or better)?
I no longer have any patience for this shit. I don't believe a word of that BS about introducing another suite would lead to insurmountable problems for the users. They already think this stuff is voodoo and they'll need days or weeks to train themselves up to using different stuff. BS. They can't use what they're using now. They're the problem.
You obviously have little experience in education.
My sister's a twenty year veteran elementary school teacher. I've heard all about it.
IT challenge is related to gov't regulation how?
Lawyers and doctors still use fax, because faxed signatures are accepted for legal purposes. Both legal and medical professions have draconian requirements for client and patient data protection. Just read any story related to medicine or law and note their paranoia about connecting *anything* to the Internet. If it's not regulatorily required, it's fear of being sued.
And please do tell how this unspoken rational outweighs simply being cash strapped and crisis focused?
I don't believe they are cash strapped. Their systems are *too fat*. Your doctors routinely prescribe test after test at every point of treatment because they're terrified of being sued for lack of due diligence. That doesn't happen here (Canada).
Our system's too fat too because we don't pay for it (ha, ha), the gov't does, so doctors think nothing of paying $10.00 for a plastic bottle that can be had for a buck anywhere else. They get away with it because any criticism of the system is perceived knee-jerk style as an attack on the publicly funded healthcare system.
Sorry to burst your bubble. Not everyone with criticisms is hoping to put your Tea Party in charge to fix it.
How would that change anything? It just makes all the clocks on the hospital go wrong when it starts to move to wrong times on the NTP server.
You can have one local timeserver that syncs with external trusted servers (nist.gov). All of your local devices can sync with your local ntp server.
Updating it from public sources is out of question too. Think about someone injecting completely wrong time to the hospital.
NTP is *pull*, not push. We've had decades now to bulletproof NTP. It will be pretty easy to nail an NTP server down so it's only going to be serving NTP.
The medical and legal professions are the most IT challenged disciplines I've ever seen, but that may be largely due to excessive gov't regulation.
Congratulations indeed.
[(]I do, however, reserve the right to take that back; for up to six months...)
So, I guess we'll put you down in the "faint praise" column? Golf clap? What a cowardly pat on the back that is. In case you didn't notice, it worked! :-|
If they were only downloading and not sharing how did they get caught?
A few million bucks change hands and Verizon hands over their logs. Or the user may have been bragging on torrentfreak, or he mentioned it to others on Spacebook, ...
Or maybe the MafiAA is hiring smart geeks.
Your response was hysterical. Unfortunately, it seems that the people with mod points didn't read carefully.
I suspect they've probably never heard of the word "Engrish." "Transration" should have been a dead giveaway.
You should have been modded "+5, Funny".
Agreed.
Instead you're at "-1". Bummer.
Now at zero, on his way back up. Come on, metamods.
And may I say, you're not one of the lawyers I want to see at the bottom of the ocean. Just sayin'.
If the measure of a troll is how seriously people take it, GP's doing very well...
"First, they fight you, ..." :-)
And then they send you goatse, if Slashdot's any indication...
Beats 4chan. /.'s an aquired taste. There's no requirement to take any of it seriously. Where else can you find this many nutbars all in the same place? Computer !@#$, then philosophy, then history, then Aussies (or Russians or Chinese or Latvians, ...), then particle physics, then DHS/ICE/TSA crap, then MafiAA, ... My worst nightmares aren't as entertaining as you people are (and I have great nightmares :-).
Says an AC.
Says another AC. Are you two a tag team?
I've enjoyed/appreciated what I've read of his stuff. As for making stuff up, I think they all may be guilty of that to some degree. Everyone comes to the party dragging some baggage. Does he report truth more than making stuff up? That's all you should be asking.
Somewhere along the lines customers (much like employees) stopped being considered assets and started being considered liabilities.
Or, simply ceased to be considered at all. Customers with problems that need to be dealt with (considered) are cost centers. Run away!
People can be put in contempt of court, not companies.
That's why companies come with boards of directors. The CEO, or chairman of the board, or CTO should suffice nicely. Of course, the corporate lawyers ought to be on the hook too since they're advising the board.
Popcorn time.
Maybe we can just ship the executive staff off to a nice resort in the carribean.
Too easy. I wonder what the Russians are doing with the Gulag Archipelago these days. Solzhenitsyn wrote that great book, yet no-one hears about it any more. Has that been decommisioned? Surely, there's room in Lubyanka these days?
A Siberian winter should wake them up. Or kill 'em; whatever.
Dude, it's done something like $1 billion in box office revenue, and this is Slashdot ... do you really think anybody needs a link to know who the hell Iron Man is?
If he hadn't, someone else would have kvetched at him demanding "[citation needed]" and "pics, or it didn't happen!"
And man, I can't remember reading so many negative comments accompanying an article. If the thing goes sideways, it's going to be all over really fast! Like Mac Truck in the back of the head fast. Feature. It almost sounds like you people want to live forever.
You "'Strailians" have no idea how sexy (attractive) that place looks from here.
... and goddam Paul Hogan
Sir, up to that point, I was smiling dreamily at your words, however don't you dare diss Hogan! He's like a god here. He took on New York, and made them like him. Mick Dundee is one of the best things that ever happened, ever! Don't make me come down there to slap sense into you. We wear stainless steel blades on our feet up here you know? :-|
I imagine hockey looks every bit as exotic to you guys as rugby or Australian rules football looks to us.
... for the myth that Australia is desert and that we all live in Tin Sheds, with pet Kangaroos.
And it's a three day bicycle ride to the neighbour's place. I've seen the Simpsons episode. Do your toilets really flush counter-clockwise? Yuk, yuk, yuk, ...
... though some of the Aboriginal Communities suffer from self inflicted and seemingly voluntarily 3rd world conditions
I spent this afternoon sitting on a park bench with a couple of our native people. It was one of the best days I've had in a while. We had a great time. Ojibway and Blackfoot. He looked just like I imagine Sitting Bull looked. Great nose! I tried to learn some of their language, and they tried to teach me, but it seems nothing stuck. Drat.
Yeah, it often seems like they're self-inflicting themselves with misery. In reality, they're just waiting for us to leave. :-)
... besides, we're surrounded by a REALLY BIG MOAT
Ha; very funny! A few of them, actually. The Japanese almost got you in WWII though (and I'm glad they didn't).
... Canada, which, as you rightly pointed out, is way WAY too cold).
June, July, August, and September are usually not that bad; pleasant even. Often, October, November and even December can be decent. January and February *always* suck horribly (-42 C). So, March, April, and May are the only chancy ones.
Then again, I've driven through blizzards in August.
Julian Assange, Aussie Senator. Huh. That'd definitely cause a ruckus in some circles. Have fun with that.
"Belonga Mick." Mick's place. You guys crack me up. :-)
Sanitize the data to protect the innocent? That's a complete load of shit.
You really don't have any clue as to what we're talking about. Clue: raw data from $somewhere contains the *real names* of *real people*, whose names should not be disclosed to the $badguys. Those real people may be CIA operatives or confidential informants or *our people* who have jobs with *their gov't.* We don't want to compromise people who're helping us by supplying us with intel or doing *other nice stuff that we want done.* Duh. Go read some Sun Tsu, ffs.
If that doesn't make any sense to you, think of WWII and William Stephenson (Intrepid) and French Maquis behind Nazi lines. Secrecy was paramount to them, and whole towns could be decimated in retribution for a successful op.
I assume he was trying to figure out how to do it. He was inventing. I've been there.
All the encryption and other technologies have been [in] use for years.
Inventing *the process of leaking info* (wikileaks), not inventing tech. And no, leaking info is not that simple. Look at the mess he's in right now if you don't believe me.
Bradley Manning's considered a traitor by many for what he's done. "Whistleblower", chyaaa, right.
You appear to be avoiding the obvious and so far appear intent on remaining ignorant. I wonder why. Open your eyes.
Why ancient Greek symbology?
Because even with capitialization, bars, accents and so on, 26 letters just isn't enough.
Don't get me wrong. I think it's beautiful (a nicely formed equation, that is).
Still, it's too damned opaque. Only "the initiated" get it. Morons should be able to look at it and have a chance to understand it. We all complain that not enough of "us" get this stuff, but if it's phrased in a language that's foreign to mortals, is that any surprise?
If the measure of a troll is how seriously people take it, GP's doing very well...
"First, they fight you, ..." :-)
... or ricerfs.
Was that a joke? :-) I laughed.
MIND. BLOWN.
ACK. And is it any less fun than it was when you discovered it?
NO. :-)
Nobody does !@#$ like that these days. Why is that?
Because miracles don't happen very often. Thanks Linus.
Yes I can.
Journaling makes sense for servers; not so much for personal boxes.
I'm sorry my friend but you must be insane.
Possibly. The jury's still out on that.
I don't go uncleanly powering off my boxes intentionally but it still happens a couple times over the course of a month for various reasons (power flickers and the like).
Yeah, and it boots into "fix me!" state, and you fsck the ptns. And it works. Every time. Every friggin time! :-) I've never had it fail to fix a confused ptn. I'm reminded of a job/contract I did with City of Calgary, where the first thing I was asked to do was to sort out a confused AIX box. Same thing. It worked. ext2 works just as well.
It may be that ext2 doesn't *spin* as fast as new tech (Android, iBaubles, ...) needs it to, but for me, on my hardware, for what I do with them, it spins way fast enough.
Then again, I may be insane. :-) No apologies. Linus, may you live forever, and may your grandchildren have many grandchildren! :-) I'll kiss your feet if you ever show up in my neighbourhood (fair warning).
I don't have to drink to forget... I come by the ability naturally.
That may be age (or senility) talking. BUT WHO CARES?!? Cheers bud. Coffee with no Scotch in it is a waste of space.
Maybe drinking will instead help me remember and I've been missing out?
Stop prevaricating! Just enjoy the ride. :-)