The same as it's always been; the !@#$heads "in power" shouldn't be. From corrupted politicians trying to buy themselves another term, to Scientology, to Gadaffi, to the MafiAA, to the dog's breakfast of TLAs and LEOs, to the old money corporations propped up via regulatory capture,... This is how "Hope and Change" happens when too many people perceive themselves to have been lied to or victimized. Think 1776, and the Boston Tea Party. They dressed up like Native Americans. Anon just tries to stay anonymous.
I mean, come on! There's a kid in Toronto who's been in jail for the past year for tweeting about security fencing. His wife's divorcing him. You send out riot police to confront kids throwing snowballs?!? Bradley Manning is a traitor and an enemy of the state for whistleblowing?!?
Sic semper tyrannus. Mwa, ha, haaa! Popcorn time!
Okay, Scientology never was "power", but they deserve the torment, and I imagine it's likely entertaining for some (no, not me).
On the other hand, getting the online community to shut up would demonstrate real power.
... but right now I'm busy downloading the entire US financial system into my laptop from the backup mainframe.
What? That's how it was done last century! Leave it there, forward copies to der Spiegel and Reuters, and just get on with rummaging around looking for the juicy dirt. Stop wasting time! If it's already on a drive accessible from the network, it's where you want it to be, yes?
Think like Linus. Make the world do your archiving for you. Sheesh, I gotta do *everybody's* thinking these days?!?
There is NO REASON for manned exploration of the solar system.
You're. A. Fool.
If Armstrong had not been on board, the whole thing would have hit hard and smashed like a Martian lander whose engineers were confusing imperial with metric system. Automation has its place. Don't overestimate its real worth.
The most sophisticated machine is analogous to just a stupid hammer.
[I'm] from Africa. There were no democracies before colonialism... or during. They only came after. Everyone before that was, "might equals right".
I've been in Africa (Sudan). Nice people; polite as hell. I didn't want to leave.
So, you're saying Africa's history is a lot like Europe's, the America's, Asia's,... I agree. Democracy's over-rated, IMO. We all ought to be able to come up with something *a lot* better. At best, all it does is keep us from killing more of each other faster.
[If you ever find yourself in Khartoum, look up Ramiz Muniere and buy him some karkade for me. I'll pay you back.]
If I were starting over in my teens, I'd be expending a *lot* more effort on aural sex
It doesn't have to be that loud, you know.
What I really meant was Auroral! You know, dark night under the stars, coronal mass ejections plowing into the atmosphere, Northern Lights,...
Yeah, I didn't think anyone'd be foolish enough to fall for that. s/aural/oral/ Sigh. Drat. There's too damned many homonyms out there to keep track of them all on not enough sleep.
I assume you're talking about this proposed so-called starship thingy. I won't disagree with you there.
The rest of us do not dress up for the sci-fi convention, do not know klingon, and do not construct models of the enterprise in our free time.
Neither do I. But if it's a choice to hang around with that crowd, or people like you with no vision inhaling Celebrity Apprentice, sucking down McD's cheeseburgers, and believing Facebook, iBaubles, and Justin Bieber are the apex of civilization, I'll go with the guys with the brow ridges.
Behold the tortoise. He makes progress by sticking his neck out.
I think I disagree with everything you said here (you appear to be seriously lacking in the imagination dept.), but this one *really* stood out:
having multiple generations in space like that would probably mean whatever being got to the destination would be like no human on earth...
Evolution doesn't work that quickly.
Evolution doesn't enter into it. Culture does. How much evolutionary difference was there between the Mayans and Pizzaro, or between the northern Asians and the Inuit? I have trouble understanding or identifying with people twenty years younger than me even when we're using the same language.
That's not artificial gravity, that's simulated gravity.
What's the difference? I've seen motorcycles running sideways in carnivals. Once you're inside the system, centrifugal force is stronger than gravity.
No holodeck, no matter replicator, no transporter, no Star Trek style Ion Drive,...
Feh, ya gotta start somewhere. Zephram Cochrane's warp ship had none of those either. Maybe we can convice some pointy-eared humorless jerks to part with some? No, not the Romulans, the other ones.
Do we wonder why there's so much Star Trek slash fiction?
Do you mean "slash" as in Freddie Kruger, or are you questioning whether ST is SF? I can't recall ever seeing any ST slasher shows. Sulu with a katana is all that comes to mind.
Not that I am promoting abstinance in any way, but I do want to point out that prior to the 1960s, it was the only way available and it seemed to work pretty well over all.
"French Letters" have a fairly long history, you know? Even Catholics enjoyed some success with coitus interuptus. If I were starting over in my teens, I'd be expending a *lot* more effort on aural sex instead of worrying myself to death as to whether my SO at that moment was impregnated (with all the horrifying baggage that goes along with that for everyone concerned).
Much like treating somebody for hemophilia isn't to leech their blood, putting out a house fire usually involves pouring water on it, not gasoline, or any other analogies you care to name.
I'd like to point out, Red Adair put out fires with dynamite. Josef Stalin and Hitler expended quite a bit of effort on the over-population problem too.
We humans can get pretty inventive when faced with a problem. Solutions come in all shades from black through white, and there's often some nutbar standing around thinking any number of them makes sense to them.
You missed a plan: Global unification. Either peacefully (A few centuries of globalised communications and travel might do it) or not-so-peacefully (Nuke 'em all, then disband the military).
You forgot about the Eugenics Wars. Does Kahn (from ST:TOS) ring any bells?
I'm with Malcolm Reynolds these days, so no irons in this fire.
"We gotta get out of this place, if it's the last thing we ever do,..."
I don't recommend we do what he's suggesting, especially in that form factor, but it could be done for a lot less is my point. The most likely route to big shiny spaceships is as I outlined above.
FFS! Didn't you see the movie?!? All we need to do is bolt warp drive onto an ICBM, and wait for the Vulcans to notice!
An ion drive to get to even the closest star would have to be a "generation" ship. It would take generations of people, born, [living], dying, to reach the nearest stars.
Count me in, please. No, really!
And it's got to take off with Magic Carpet Ride playing in the background. Zephram, I'll take care of the Econs for you. Just make it go man. Light the damned thing already!
Slashdot Mirror
The third rule of anonymous: Execute anyone claiming to be anonymous, since they obviously aren't.
Execute, no. Ridicule, yes. No, I don't speak for them, but I do enjoy the show.
What exactly is 'the issue'?
The same as it's always been; the !@#$heads "in power" shouldn't be. From corrupted politicians trying to buy themselves another term, to Scientology, to Gadaffi, to the MafiAA, to the dog's breakfast of TLAs and LEOs, to the old money corporations propped up via regulatory capture, ... This is how "Hope and Change" happens when too many people perceive themselves to have been lied to or victimized. Think 1776, and the Boston Tea Party. They dressed up like Native Americans. Anon just tries to stay anonymous.
I mean, come on! There's a kid in Toronto who's been in jail for the past year for tweeting about security fencing. His wife's divorcing him. You send out riot police to confront kids throwing snowballs?!? Bradley Manning is a traitor and an enemy of the state for whistleblowing?!?
Sic semper tyrannus. Mwa, ha, haaa! Popcorn time!
Okay, Scientology never was "power", but they deserve the torment, and I imagine it's likely entertaining for some (no, not me).
On the other hand, getting the online community to shut up would demonstrate real power.
Isn't that what DoS is?
... but right now I'm busy downloading the entire US financial system into my laptop from the backup mainframe.
What? That's how it was done last century! Leave it there, forward copies to der Spiegel and Reuters, and just get on with rummaging around looking for the juicy dirt. Stop wasting time! If it's already on a drive accessible from the network, it's where you want it to be, yes?
Think like Linus. Make the world do your archiving for you. Sheesh, I gotta do *everybody's* thinking these days?!?
There is NO REASON for manned exploration of the solar system.
You're. A. Fool.
If Armstrong had not been on board, the whole thing would have hit hard and smashed like a Martian lander whose engineers were confusing imperial with metric system. Automation has its place. Don't overestimate its real worth.
The most sophisticated machine is analogous to just a stupid hammer.
Ah, you sweet innocent naive child.
That's the nicest compliment I've heard in ages. "Yo, Matlock's on!!!"
"Slash" as in "/", like Kirk/Spock, or whomever. Fan fic.
Sigh. Why'd you say "slash" when you meant "/"?
Fine, I'm quibbling. I'm old. Be nice to your elders, please.
Woof. Whatever it is that you've ingested, I think I want some. What's the safe/reasonable dosage? :-O
[I'm] from Africa. There were no democracies before colonialism ... or during. They only came after. Everyone before that was, "might equals right".
I've been in Africa (Sudan). Nice people; polite as hell. I didn't want to leave.
So, you're saying Africa's history is a lot like Europe's, the America's, Asia's, ... I agree. Democracy's over-rated, IMO. We all ought to be able to come up with something *a lot* better. At best, all it does is keep us from killing more of each other faster.
[If you ever find yourself in Khartoum, look up Ramiz Muniere and buy him some karkade for me. I'll pay you back.]
If I were starting over in my teens, I'd be expending a *lot* more effort on aural sex
It doesn't have to be that loud, you know.
What I really meant was Auroral! You know, dark night under the stars, coronal mass ejections plowing into the atmosphere, Northern Lights, ...
Yeah, I didn't think anyone'd be foolish enough to fall for that. s/aural/oral/ Sigh. Drat. There's too damned many homonyms out there to keep track of them all on not enough sleep.
They won't do it because it's fucking stupid
I assume you're talking about this proposed so-called starship thingy. I won't disagree with you there.
The rest of us do not dress up for the sci-fi convention, do not know klingon, and do not construct models of the enterprise in our free time.
Neither do I. But if it's a choice to hang around with that crowd, or people like you with no vision inhaling Celebrity Apprentice, sucking down McD's cheeseburgers, and believing Facebook, iBaubles, and Justin Bieber are the apex of civilization, I'll go with the guys with the brow ridges.
Behold the tortoise. He makes progress by sticking his neck out.
Kaplah!
I think I disagree with everything you said here (you appear to be seriously lacking in the imagination dept.), but this one *really* stood out:
having multiple generations in space like that would probably mean whatever being got to the destination would be like no human on earth...
Evolution doesn't work that quickly.
Evolution doesn't enter into it. Culture does. How much evolutionary difference was there between the Mayans and Pizzaro, or between the northern Asians and the Inuit? I have trouble understanding or identifying with people twenty years younger than me even when we're using the same language.
That's not artificial gravity, that's simulated gravity.
What's the difference? I've seen motorcycles running sideways in carnivals. Once you're inside the system, centrifugal force is stronger than gravity.
No holodeck, no matter replicator, no transporter, no Star Trek style Ion Drive, ...
Feh, ya gotta start somewhere. Zephram Cochrane's warp ship had none of those either. Maybe we can convice some pointy-eared humorless jerks to part with some? No, not the Romulans, the other ones.
We are looking for a Captain... interested in the job?
As long as I don't have to wear a red shirt, you bet! Let's go get the Borg and assimilate *them*! :-)
One only has to look back at history to see who it was who funded and trained Bin Laden.
Yup. You'd think he would have been more grateful. There's just no pleasing some people.
I'll clean the Jeffries Tubes.
Do we wonder why there's so much Star Trek slash fiction?
Do you mean "slash" as in Freddie Kruger, or are you questioning whether ST is SF? I can't recall ever seeing any ST slasher shows. Sulu with a katana is all that comes to mind.
I'll clean the Jeffries Tubes.
Whew, thanks! Thought I might get stuck with that one...
That would have been funnier if I had actually bothered to login first...
I don't suppose your sister needs any help with her tubes?
Not that I am promoting abstinance in any way, but I do want to point out that prior to the 1960s, it was the only way available and it seemed to work pretty well over all.
"French Letters" have a fairly long history, you know? Even Catholics enjoyed some success with coitus interuptus. If I were starting over in my teens, I'd be expending a *lot* more effort on aural sex instead of worrying myself to death as to whether my SO at that moment was impregnated (with all the horrifying baggage that goes along with that for everyone concerned).
Much like treating somebody for hemophilia isn't to leech their blood, putting out a house fire usually involves pouring water on it, not gasoline, or any other analogies you care to name.
I'd like to point out, Red Adair put out fires with dynamite. Josef Stalin and Hitler expended quite a bit of effort on the over-population problem too.
We humans can get pretty inventive when faced with a problem. Solutions come in all shades from black through white, and there's often some nutbar standing around thinking any number of them makes sense to them.
Or one could feed and educate the poor. Just a thought.
We've tried that. It never seems to work. You get them fed, and damned if they don't just turn around and start shooting at each other. :-P
If you RTFA ...
Ha! Haha, hahahaha, ...
Good one; just sayin'.
On a serious note, I sincerely wish someone would beam me up.
You missed a plan: Global unification. Either peacefully (A few centuries of globalised communications and travel might do it) or not-so-peacefully (Nuke 'em all, then disband the military).
You forgot about the Eugenics Wars. Does Kahn (from ST:TOS) ring any bells?
I'm with Malcolm Reynolds these days, so no irons in this fire.
"We gotta get out of this place, if it's the last thing we ever do, ..."
I don't recommend we do what he's suggesting, especially in that form factor, but it could be done for a lot less is my point. The most likely route to big shiny spaceships is as I outlined above.
FFS! Didn't you see the movie?!? All we need to do is bolt warp drive onto an ICBM, and wait for the Vulcans to notice!
Geez, slow today or what? :-)
at a cost of roughly $1 trillion
So a fraction of what we spend on the military finding new ways to blow things up or on wall street bailing out incompetent bankers, then?
Given the choice of blowing it on a Bernie Madoff or Goldman Sachs/Lehman Bros., I vote we build a starship. I'll clean the Jeffries Tubes.
To !@#$ with Earth!
Here's another man who needs to get laid...
You say that like it's a bad thing. Chicks like to get laid too, you know?
An ion drive to get to even the closest star would have to be a "generation" ship. It would take generations of people, born, [living], dying, to reach the nearest stars.
Count me in, please. No, really!
And it's got to take off with Magic Carpet Ride playing in the background. Zephram, I'll take care of the Econs for you. Just make it go man. Light the damned thing already!
Make it so.
You sir, are an idiot. But a really good one.
C|n>k!
Thank you! Oldie, but a goodie. :-)