By the way, now I also want to run this 3-part suggestion past you. Posted it a couple of times, but it's not very visible on slashdot,
Honestly, I don't think any of that is necessary. A grace period with a 'last edited' tag is usually plenty to indicate what's going on. The newbie filter might be useful, but it might also discourage new users from participating.
The only other thing I've implemented in some of my more trouble-prone forums is "ghost posting", where if you don't like someone you can add them to your "ghost post list".
Depending on the setting you'll either never see any post they make, or you'll see all the words in their posts replaced with "Oooh... oooo... OoooooOOOoooooh!... oooOOooo!" so it looks like a ghost moaning. It's pretty funny.
An admin level ghost-ban simply makes all of their posts invisible to everyone but them. It's good for trolls and shit-stirrers. They don't realize anything has changed, except no one ever replies to them anymore (because no one can see their posts, lol). They can see their posts and everything looks normal to them, but no one else can see anything they post. The only way they can find out this is happening is if they log out and view the forum.
After posting away like a crazy fuck for a week or two and not getting any response, most of them move on to more fertile ground.:)
We don't manufacture cars the way we used to. We don't build houses the way we used to. That and a million other things. Time marches on, methodologies and scale changes, sometimes for the better. Sometimes not.
Exactly. Almost nothing is done "they way it used to be done", and most of the time that's a good thing.
The Edit button is never coming because it would allow people to change their posts after people have replied to them. Without a means to edit you know the post looks the way it did when it was originally submitted.
And that's solved for years by using a 2-minute "grace" edit period and then locking the post., Also, a "last edited" timestamp that doesn't appear unless the post has been edited. Seriously, the ability to edit within a grace period is standard practice on practically every forum in the universe. Why are you so opposed to this?
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This is what PREVIEW is for, check your stuff for typoes before actually submitting.
Virtually every forum allows previewing and editing. VBulletin, SMF, phpBB, Xenforo, PunBB, myBB, Phorum, bbPress, FUDForum, Ikonboard, they ALL allow previewing and editing with a configurable grace period.
Stop making excuses for why slashdot is still stuck in the late 90s. There's no reason a post shouldn't be editable.
And it's "typos", not "typoes". But that's what Preview is for, RIGHT?
"Once installed, the main Project Sauron modules start working as 'sleeper cells"
So, this was written by ISIS?
Well, if they're really sleeping they may just be Boeing employees.
("Sleeper cell" was the unofficial name for small groups at Boeing that would sometimes disappear during work and take a snooze in obscure parts of the main assembly plants in Renton and Everett. There were lots of places a guy could go to catch a nap, places that no one would ever stumble across by accident. Like the Surplus Equipment Storage Room in the Renton paint facility or the "Break/Fix/Awaiting Service" shed at the Everett plant. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD...)
"Researchers Crack Open Unusually Advanced Malware that Hid For 5 Years", and it was found that internally the authors named it "Windows 10 Extra Telemetry Edition"
Is this a Slashdot discussion or the beginning of a glorious Facebook flame war?;)
Lol, no, it's just my pedantry run amuck from 3 cups of coffee before noon.:)
I have less bullets to wage such a battle these days, and there are fewer oxygen molecules available
Errrrrrr. Almost. Fewer bullets is the correct form, just like "fewer oxygen molecules", because they're both countable (in theory, anyway).
You can have fewer bullets, or less ammo. But not less bullets or fewer ammo. It's all about the collective aggregate in cases like this. In short, if the subject of discussion is individually countable, use "fewer". If it's a collective quantity (like gasoline or oxygen) use "less".
But, oddly enough, you can often use "more" in both countable and uncountable instances, i.e. "I have more bullets" or "I have more oxygen" are both correct as far as I'm aware.
They say that "English obeys all the rules of grammar, except when it doesn't."
For example, why do writers write but fingers don’t fing, grocers don’t groce and hammers don’t ham? If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn’t the plural of booth beeth? In what other language do people recite at a play and play at a recital? How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a "wise man" and a "wise guy" are opposites? Why do we drive on the parkway but park on the driveway? Really, English makes no sense.
Sometimes you have to hang up on them, they won't quit.
Oh no, I make them hang up. They called me, so now they've become my prey. They're in my arena now, lol. And I've got all day to fuck with them and talk about their mom is banging the goat next door.
Sometimes I mimic their accent, which REALLY seems to enrage them. Or I just go over and over how they're "stuck in a shitty chair in a shitty cubicle", and how I'm making more just telling them to piss off than they can even if they work a 12-hour shift.
Sometimes I'll make them listen to a few selected youtube videos, or I make them wait on a hold for a while. But either way my goal is to force them to hang up, and I always win, always.
You have every right in the world to ditch facebook, but you will become a complete social pariah in 2016 doing that.
I'm curious- what kind of brain injury do you have?
Or is it just cringe-worthy, low self-esteem that would prompt you to say something like this?
Newsflash: Most of those 'friends' on Facebook aren't really your friends. Most of them wouldn't stop eating their doughnut if they found out you'd died.
"Facebook Will Force Advertising On Ad-Blocking Users"
Of course they will, lol. Duh.
After all, Facebook users have NO CHOICE but to use Facebook and allow them to force you to watch ads. Really, you have no choice, none at all. Suck it up and get used to it.
Hmm... I think I'd have to see the project proposal to make a decision whether or not I'd chip in for that. In the context of discussions, there is a potential for Sophistic abuse
This has been discussed many many many many times here. To prevent abuse you could just show the edited comments through a link or some versioning/diff function, plus a "last edited" time stamp. I'd say that 99.999999% of the changes I'd ever want to make are to fix a typo or correct some grammar.
Even if people were just allowed a 3-minute grace period to fix typos, that would be enough. Then lock the post. That plus any quoting from the original post will put a stop to people that try to go back and change history or the meaning of what they said.
Seriously, are people so afraid that someone is going to try and edit their post to make someone else look foolish or to win an argument?
Every single forum in the world has the ability to edit posts, and it's not abused often enough to worry about. I've run close to 100 forums in my time, including some very active ones with close to 500,000 posts, and this kind of thing has never been an issue.
And what happens when they mandate that the software for your printer must detect these copies like they currently do with Photocopies and currency?
As the AC mentioned below, I'd probably build my own (I've probably got 1/3rd of the parts I'd need sitting around in junk boxes downstairs) and use a Chinese software package or a cracked package. Or falsely-signed 3D models perhaps. Or I'd buy a counterfeit version off eBay or Amazon. Or download it off the interweb.
They'll never be able to lock this market down unless they control the entire world and every bit of software in existence, and that ain't gonna happen.
So far you've claimed that SJWs are all self identified
No, there you go again. I never said "all". What I said was, there are *lots* of people who proudly declare that they're "social justice warriors". Maybe you are unable to distinguish between "lots" and "all". Hint: There are two different words because they mean two different things.
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You also claimed that you only judge actions not words,
Nope, I never said "only". See how you either misunderstand everything or just make shit up to try and prove your points? That's why I think you're a jackass, serviscope_minor. You are utterly incapable of having an honest discussion. Every time we disagree about something you either make shit up or deliberately misrepresent what I've said. That's the mark of someone who's either stupid or dishonest, or both.
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yet you judged me (called me an idiot) based olely on my words.
Lol, in your case it's all I need. Half the shit you write is idiotic, the other half is bullshit and lies. I'd bet serious money that you're just as big a jerk in real life as you are here.
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By the way, now I also want to run this 3-part suggestion past you. Posted it a couple of times, but it's not very visible on slashdot,
Honestly, I don't think any of that is necessary. A grace period with a 'last edited' tag is usually plenty to indicate what's going on. The newbie filter might be useful, but it might also discourage new users from participating.
The only other thing I've implemented in some of my more trouble-prone forums is "ghost posting", where if you don't like someone you can add them to your "ghost post list".
Depending on the setting you'll either never see any post they make, or you'll see all the words in their posts replaced with "Oooh... oooo... OoooooOOOoooooh!... oooOOooo!" so it looks like a ghost moaning. It's pretty funny.
An admin level ghost-ban simply makes all of their posts invisible to everyone but them. It's good for trolls and shit-stirrers. They don't realize anything has changed, except no one ever replies to them anymore (because no one can see their posts, lol). They can see their posts and everything looks normal to them, but no one else can see anything they post. The only way they can find out this is happening is if they log out and view the forum.
After posting away like a crazy fuck for a week or two and not getting any response, most of them move on to more fertile ground. :)
We don't manufacture cars the way we used to. We don't build houses the way we used to. That and a million other things. Time marches on, methodologies and scale changes, sometimes for the better. Sometimes not.
Exactly. Almost nothing is done "they way it used to be done", and most of the time that's a good thing.
Is nothing sacred anymore?
In a word, "no".
I'm the customer, not the product.
In this case, you're both.
Hire some.
That summary is so poorly written that it borders on editorial malpractice.
You did however say that you only judge actions.
No, I never said that, and anyone can go back through this thread and see what a liar you are.
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That's what your words mean.
You're interpreting things I never said to fit your fantasy argument. Face it, you fucked up.
If I'd meant "only", I'd have said "only". I didn't, but you just can't accept that you got caught lying again in front of everyone.
The Edit button is never coming because it would allow people to change their posts after people have replied to them. Without a means to edit you know the post looks the way it did when it was originally submitted.
And that's solved for years by using a 2-minute "grace" edit period and then locking the post., Also, a "last edited" timestamp that doesn't appear unless the post has been edited. Seriously, the ability to edit within a grace period is standard practice on practically every forum in the universe. Why are you so opposed to this?
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This is what PREVIEW is for, check your stuff for typoes before actually submitting.
Virtually every forum allows previewing and editing. VBulletin, SMF, phpBB, Xenforo, PunBB, myBB, Phorum, bbPress, FUDForum, Ikonboard, they ALL allow previewing and editing with a configurable grace period.
Stop making excuses for why slashdot is still stuck in the late 90s. There's no reason a post shouldn't be editable.
And it's "typos", not "typoes". But that's what Preview is for, RIGHT?
Were you doing "quality control" on your optical sensor covers, looking for any holes, in those choice locations? ;)
I never slept on the job, but I know some people that I'm sure did. I was usually in an office and rarely visited the assembly line.
"Once installed, the main Project Sauron modules start working as 'sleeper cells"
So, this was written by ISIS?
Well, if they're really sleeping they may just be Boeing employees.
("Sleeper cell" was the unofficial name for small groups at Boeing that would sometimes disappear during work and take a snooze in obscure parts of the main assembly plants in Renton and Everett. There were lots of places a guy could go to catch a nap, places that no one would ever stumble across by accident. Like the Surplus Equipment Storage Room in the Renton paint facility or the "Break/Fix/Awaiting Service" shed at the Everett plant. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD...)
"Researchers Crack Open Unusually Advanced Malware that Hid For 5 Years", and it was found that internally the authors named it "Windows 10 Extra Telemetry Edition"
Personally, I find nothing wrong with a trusty Debian Testing install...but feel free to hit up any of the top 3 (Debian, Slackware, RedHat/Fedora).
All my servers run Debian, but for use at home, Mint just seemed right. I don't know why.
Is this a Slashdot discussion or the beginning of a glorious Facebook flame war? ;)
Lol, no, it's just my pedantry run amuck from 3 cups of coffee before noon. :)
I have less bullets to wage such a battle these days, and there are fewer oxygen molecules available
Errrrrrr. Almost. Fewer bullets is the correct form, just like "fewer oxygen molecules", because they're both countable (in theory, anyway).
You can have fewer bullets, or less ammo. But not less bullets or fewer ammo. It's all about the collective aggregate in cases like this. In short, if the subject of discussion is individually countable, use "fewer". If it's a collective quantity (like gasoline or oxygen) use "less".
But, oddly enough, you can often use "more" in both countable and uncountable instances, i.e. "I have more bullets" or "I have more oxygen" are both correct as far as I'm aware.
They say that "English obeys all the rules of grammar, except when it doesn't."
For example, why do writers write but fingers don’t fing, grocers don’t groce and hammers don’t ham? If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn’t the plural of booth beeth? In what other language do people recite at a play and play at a recital? How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a "wise man" and a "wise guy" are opposites? Why do we drive on the parkway but park on the driveway? Really, English makes no sense.
That explains why I see less posts from people...
Fewer. You see "fewer" posts from people.
You can have less milk or gas or oxygen but not fewer.
You can have fewer chairs or bullets or pillows, but not less.
This concludes the Grammar Nazi(tm) post on "Countable and Uncountable Nouns" for August 9th, 2016.
We now return you to our regularly-scheduled flame-throwing, already in progress.
"GPS, Faster Processor and Better Waterproofing" ...and it'll still be a flop.
Sometimes you have to hang up on them, they won't quit.
Oh no, I make them hang up. They called me, so now they've become my prey. They're in my arena now, lol. And I've got all day to fuck with them and talk about their mom is banging the goat next door.
Sometimes I mimic their accent, which REALLY seems to enrage them. Or I just go over and over how they're "stuck in a shitty chair in a shitty cubicle", and how I'm making more just telling them to piss off than they can even if they work a 12-hour shift.
Sometimes I'll make them listen to a few selected youtube videos, or I make them wait on a hold for a while. But either way my goal is to force them to hang up, and I always win, always.
You have every right in the world to ditch facebook, but you will become a complete social pariah in 2016 doing that.
I'm curious- what kind of brain injury do you have?
Or is it just cringe-worthy, low self-esteem that would prompt you to say something like this?
Newsflash: Most of those 'friends' on Facebook aren't really your friends. Most of them wouldn't stop eating their doughnut if they found out you'd died.
"Facebook Will Force Advertising On Ad-Blocking Users"
Of course they will, lol. Duh.
After all, Facebook users have NO CHOICE but to use Facebook and allow them to force you to watch ads. Really, you have no choice, none at all. Suck it up and get used to it.
Hmm... I think I'd have to see the project proposal to make a decision whether or not I'd chip in for that. In the context of discussions, there is a potential for Sophistic abuse
This has been discussed many many many many times here. To prevent abuse you could just show the edited comments through a link or some versioning/diff function, plus a "last edited" time stamp. I'd say that 99.999999% of the changes I'd ever want to make are to fix a typo or correct some grammar.
Even if people were just allowed a 3-minute grace period to fix typos, that would be enough. Then lock the post. That plus any quoting from the original post will put a stop to people that try to go back and change history or the meaning of what they said.
Seriously, are people so afraid that someone is going to try and edit their post to make someone else look foolish or to win an argument?
Every single forum in the world has the ability to edit posts, and it's not abused often enough to worry about. I've run close to 100 forums in my time, including some very active ones with close to 500,000 posts, and this kind of thing has never been an issue.
And what happens when they mandate that the software for your printer must detect these copies like they currently do with Photocopies and currency?
As the AC mentioned below, I'd probably build my own (I've probably got 1/3rd of the parts I'd need sitting around in junk boxes downstairs) and use a Chinese software package or a cracked package. Or falsely-signed 3D models perhaps. Or I'd buy a counterfeit version off eBay or Amazon. Or download it off the interweb.
They'll never be able to lock this market down unless they control the entire world and every bit of software in existence, and that ain't gonna happen.
I didn't claim you said "only", I was paraphrasing
Don't hand me this twaddle about "paraphrasing". That's exactly what you wrote:
serviscope_minor: "You also claimed that you only judge actions not words..."
I never claimed that, and it's blatantly obvious to everyone here that you were distorting the meaning of what I said.
Nice to see you finally admit that you weren't quoting me accurately, though. That's a first for you.
If I owned a 3D printer, I would ignore this law.
Do you deny that you said:
"I judge people not on what they say but on what they do"?
Do you see the word "only" in there, as you just claimed? I don't.
But otherwise, yes, that's exactly what I said, unlike what you claimed I said.
it was and is still the most bad-assed plane the US has build.
(oh, and the A10/worthog)
I'd say the F-15 Strike Eagle and the A-10 Thunderbolt (AKA "Warthog") are the greatest airborne weapons platforms ever built.
Okay, so what slashdot feature or ongoing cost would you like me to throw money at?
Fund the ability to edit posts, AKA, a standard feature of practically every forum and comment section in the world.
So far you've claimed that SJWs are all self identified
No, there you go again. I never said "all". What I said was, there are *lots* of people who proudly declare that they're "social justice warriors".
Maybe you are unable to distinguish between "lots" and "all". Hint: There are two different words because they mean two different things.
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You also claimed that you only judge actions not words,
Nope, I never said "only". See how you either misunderstand everything or just make shit up to try and prove your points? That's why I think you're a jackass, serviscope_minor. You are utterly incapable of having an honest discussion. Every time we disagree about something you either make shit up or deliberately misrepresent what I've said. That's the mark of someone who's either stupid or dishonest, or both.
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yet you judged me (called me an idiot) based olely on my words.
Lol, in your case it's all I need. Half the shit you write is idiotic, the other half is bullshit and lies. I'd bet serious money that you're just as big a jerk in real life as you are here.
Hackers are evil and we're a multinational corporation, who do you believe?
No multinational corporation would ever do anything wrong. Report the the Corporate Re-Education Camp by 8pm this evening, and bring your family.