Microsoft "cloud" account - hotmail or similar. Consider how your password management is handled in Win10 and you'll get some ideas about this situation.
I've heard some references to this, so I may take a look at it, but for now booting into Mint seems to be working well.
As for 'FlyHelicopters', he's obviously unable to comprehend anything outside his direct experience, and so he dismisses it out of hand.
What in the world would Windows put in for a password if you never had one?
I have no idea. If I knew then I'd say so. Other people have made reference to the idea that I'd need to make some sort of Microsoft account on Live or other service to create one. I've no idea if that's true. It won't happen because I'm just going to keep booting into Mint and say goodbye to Windows on that laptop.
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The whole premise makes no sense.
Nonetheless, it is true. Just because you can't bring yourself to believe it doesn't mean it isn't true. Maybe you need more experience with operating systems.
That would not be the case if you had backups. The above is pretty much telling the world that you can't restore from a backup.
No, it's means exactly what I said, no more and no less. I am locked out of that partition and cannot get to the files on that partition. How you can interpret that to mean something completely different shows your complete lack of understanding and a poor grasp of meaning.
Having backups does not magically allow me to access that partition, no matter what your muddled thinking tells you. Let's recap:
"I am locked out of that entire partition." Tell me, how would having backups make that partition accessible?
"My files are there, but I can't get to them." Again, how would having backups allow me to get to the files on that partition?
Something is wrong with this story, because the above makes no sense.
More likely you have an infected computer or someone else played with it or you don't know what you're doing.
Thanks for theorizing, but
1) My PC is not infected. 2) No one else played with it. 3) I have a pretty good idea what I'm doing.
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Windows 7/8 upgrades to 10 don't change or insert passwords.
Actually, it did/does. I was a little skeptical myself at first, but I am now living proof that Microsoft does indeed do unrequested upgrades to Win 10.
That is appalling. Have you contacted MS about this?
No, because I'm pretty certain that they don't give a shit. This was a deliberate move on their part, not an accidental upgrade. You don't accidentally upgrade your whole OS by mistake...this was planned and I'm not the only one this has happened to by far. Search for win 10 upgrade locked me out and you'll find plenty of people experiencing the same thing.
Why can't you access the Windows partitions from Mint?
I can. I think I may have mentioned that in another post.
The real issue, though, is that this little switcharoo happened against my wishes. I absolutely did *not* want Microsoft to do this and I made sure not to allow any of the stealth upgrades. They managed to slide one in anyway.
OP never stated that he/she didn't have a backup. In fact, it wasn't even mentioned, because backups are not the subject of TFA or OP's post. It's off-topic.
You are correct.
I do, in fact, have backups, but that's not the issue here, as you pointed out.
I have sympathy for those that shit like this happened to, but none whatsoever for their not being able to revert.
Oh, I have backups, but that's not really what this is about. Pay attention: this is about an absolutely unrequested update that locked my PC, and is now demanding a password that does not exist. Now do you understand? (I can type slower if that would help.)
Meanwhile forty-some percent of desktops are still running Windows 7, including the thousands I work with.
I don't know for certain, but I've heard that business/enterprise users are not seeing the forced upgrade. I sure did, although I am but a lowly Windows 7 Home Premium user.
None of which have force upgraded despite all the claims that MS was forcing upgrades over the last year.
If it didn't happen to you personally then it must not really be happening.
Perhaps I just mistook my regular old, familiar Windows 7 screen for the new Win 10 login screen, and somehow forgot the new unknown login password that it is requesting. Oh, wait, no I didn't.
As for me, I have disabled all updates on all my Win 7 computers. I've been following this policy since the first signs of Microsoft going rogue with Win 7 updates started to appear. In spite of all the ridicule and scorn, I have never regretted this practice.
I did this on my desktop PC with GWX Control Panel but I neglected to do it on my laptop.
Clearly, I should have been less trusting of Microsoft. I mean, silly me- I thought I owned my PC.
I installed Mint on it a while ago so I can still get to everything. And that's the partition I'll be booting into from now on, no need or reason to ever try and boot the Windows partition again.
What kind of fucking idiot doesn't put a password on their system?
The kind that doesn't need one, jackass. My PC is only used by me and is in a locked room in a home with a very nice alarm system.
Let me guess, you lock your car even when it's in the garage, right?
That alone tells me you don't have a fucking clue what you're doing and anything you say is going to be pure and utter bullshit.
Wrong, but I won't waste my breath explaining what a gormless dick you are. What's next, you're going to brag about your 4-digit UID? Whoop-dee-fuckin'-doo.
Win 10 takes control of your PC from you, collects all sorts of data on you and from you and sends it back to who god where. You cannot stop it and it can "upgrade" or alter itself at will whenever it wants without your permission (and sometimes explicitly against your permission).
If that isn't "malware", I don't know the meaning of the word.
Yes, this happened to my instance of Win 7 on my laptop just a few days ago. I *never* gave permission for a Win 10 upgrade and *specifically* deselected the stealth updates....and fucking Microsoft went ahead and "upgraded" it to Win 10 anyway.
But it gets worse.
Upon booting I'm presented with a Login screen that insists on a password. This machine never had a password on it, but now it does and I have no idea what it is. I cannot get in to my own PC now. Apparently I need some sort of Windows Live account or some other password, but I honestly have no idea. I am locked out of that entire partition.
My files are there, but I can't get to them. I can't login and so I'm literally locked out of my own PC thanks to the Win 10 forced upgrade.
Fortunately, I installed Linux Mint on it a while ago, and so that's what Ill be using on it from now on I guess. I can boot into that partition at least.
We're starting to go around in circles here. It is obvious by you using the service, and continuing to use the service, that it is not enough of a problem for you to avoid using the service. So no need for the US system to change it's behavior based on your simple but not bothered enough to do anything about it dislike.
Jesus, that other guy was right- you are an asshole.
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While I wish no harm upon Bill Gates - in spite of being vehemently anti-Microsoft myself
Same here. I can't stand him, but I don't wish him any harm.
It's ridiculous to think that killing him would have any actual effect on the US economy. The Al-Qaeda people must be huffing chemtrails.
Killing Bill Gates would only affect his gardener and the pool cleaning staff.
I suppose it's possible that the local Ferrari dealership may see a slight drop in sales. Other than that, no impact on the US economy.
...or does anyone else also think that ads have NO PLACE being in the freaking operating system?
Definitely not just you. It's just that Microsoft doesn't care what people want, Microsoft cares about what Microsoft wants.
"Microsoft plans to double the number of promoted apps in Start menu."
Well if they do this just 3 or 4 more times it'll be promoted apps all the way down.
No need for pesky files or personal stuff, it'll be nothing more than a dedicated ad platform.
Is it asking for a password or is it asking for a Microsoft account?
I'll have to take another look, I think it was asking for a full account login, i.e. a user account/email and a password.
Microsoft "cloud" account - hotmail or similar. Consider how your password management is handled in Win10 and you'll get some ideas about this situation.
I've heard some references to this, so I may take a look at it, but for now booting into Mint seems to be working well.
As for 'FlyHelicopters', he's obviously unable to comprehend anything outside his direct experience, and so he dismisses it out of hand.
What in the world would Windows put in for a password if you never had one?
I have no idea. If I knew then I'd say so. Other people have made reference to the idea that I'd need to make some sort of Microsoft account on Live or other service to create one. I've no idea if that's true. It won't happen because I'm just going to keep booting into Mint and say goodbye to Windows on that laptop.
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The whole premise makes no sense.
Nonetheless, it is true. Just because you can't bring yourself to believe it doesn't mean it isn't true. Maybe you need more experience with operating systems.
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I do this for a living,
Then you must be starving to death.
If you have a backup, you're not locked out from your PC without a way to get in, as you claimed.
Having backups does not magically make that partition available. Perhaps you need to take a reading comprehension course.
That would not be the case if you had backups. The above is pretty much telling the world that you can't restore from a backup.
No, it's means exactly what I said, no more and no less. I am locked out of that partition and cannot get to the files on that partition. How you can interpret that to mean something completely different shows your complete lack of understanding and a poor grasp of meaning.
Having backups does not magically allow me to access that partition, no matter what your muddled thinking tells you. Let's recap:
"I am locked out of that entire partition." Tell me, how would having backups make that partition accessible?
"My files are there, but I can't get to them." Again, how would having backups allow me to get to the files on that partition?
Put down the bong and think before you type.
You had a password from long ago if Windows 10 has one there. Or you set one up without knowing what you were doing.
No, and no.
Thanks for playing, better luck next time.
I've got a dozen non-enterprise WIN 7 PCs like moms' that have never been forced to upgrade.
Obviously since it hasn't happened to you, it must not be happening.
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Perhaps this is what happened to you, in which case let's discuss why MS might be forcing a small percentage of machines to upgrade.
Al I can tell you is what happened: my PC upgraded itself to Win 10 without my permission and without my requesting it to do so.
Feel free to doubt as much as you like, but this is in fact what happened.
Perhaps it's only a "small percentage of machines". I don't know. And I don't care. One machine (mine) was enough.
Something is wrong with this story, because the above makes no sense.
More likely you have an infected computer or someone else played with it or you don't know what you're doing.
Thanks for theorizing, but
1) My PC is not infected.
2) No one else played with it.
3) I have a pretty good idea what I'm doing.
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Windows 7/8 upgrades to 10 don't change or insert passwords.
Actually, it did/does. I was a little skeptical myself at first, but I am now living proof that Microsoft does indeed do unrequested upgrades to Win 10.
That is appalling. Have you contacted MS about this?
No, because I'm pretty certain that they don't give a shit. This was a deliberate move on their part, not an accidental upgrade. You don't accidentally upgrade your whole OS by mistake...this was planned and I'm not the only one this has happened to by far. Search for win 10 upgrade locked me out and you'll find plenty of people experiencing the same thing.
Why can't you access the Windows partitions from Mint?
I can. I think I may have mentioned that in another post.
The real issue, though, is that this little switcharoo happened against my wishes. I absolutely did *not* want Microsoft to do this and I made sure not to allow any of the stealth upgrades. They managed to slide one in anyway.
OP never stated that he/she didn't have a backup. In fact, it wasn't even mentioned, because backups are not the subject of TFA or OP's post. It's off-topic.
You are correct.
I do, in fact, have backups, but that's not the issue here, as you pointed out.
I have sympathy for those that shit like this happened to, but none whatsoever for their not being able to revert.
Oh, I have backups, but that's not really what this is about. Pay attention: this is about an absolutely unrequested update that locked my PC, and is now demanding a password that does not exist. Now do you understand? (I can type slower if that would help.)
Meanwhile forty-some percent of desktops are still running Windows 7, including the thousands I work with.
I don't know for certain, but I've heard that business/enterprise users are not seeing the forced upgrade. I sure did, although I am but a lowly Windows 7 Home Premium user.
None of which have force upgraded despite all the claims that MS was forcing upgrades over the last year.
If it didn't happen to you personally then it must not really be happening.
Perhaps I just mistook my regular old, familiar Windows 7 screen for the new Win 10 login screen, and somehow forgot the new unknown login password that it is requesting. Oh, wait, no I didn't.
As for me, I have disabled all updates on all my Win 7 computers. I've been following this policy since the first signs of Microsoft going rogue with Win 7 updates started to appear. In spite of all the ridicule and scorn, I have never regretted this practice.
I did this on my desktop PC with GWX Control Panel but I neglected to do it on my laptop.
Clearly, I should have been less trusting of Microsoft. I mean, silly me- I thought I owned my PC.
Thank you, I may give this a try and see if it works. Thanks again, David!
I installed Mint on it a while ago so I can still get to everything. And that's the partition I'll be booting into from now on, no need or reason to ever try and boot the Windows partition again.
What kind of fucking idiot doesn't put a password on their system?
The kind that doesn't need one, jackass. My PC is only used by me and is in a locked room in a home with a very nice alarm system.
Let me guess, you lock your car even when it's in the garage, right?
That alone tells me you don't have a fucking clue what you're doing and anything you say is going to be pure and utter bullshit.
Wrong, but I won't waste my breath explaining what a gormless dick you are. What's next, you're going to brag about your 4-digit UID? Whoop-dee-fuckin'-doo.
There are a couple of software solutions that claim to disable the Windows 10 upgrade. I can't vouch for them, but maybe someone else can. They are:
GRC Never10 https://www.grc.com/never10.ht...
GWC Control Panel http://blog.ultimateoutsider.c...
Thanks. It's too late for me but hopefully this will help someone else.
"...Microsoft's malware-like upgrade system..."
This isn't "malware-like", this IS malware.
Win 10 takes control of your PC from you, collects all sorts of data on you and from you and sends it back to who god where. You cannot stop it and it can "upgrade" or alter itself at will whenever it wants without your permission (and sometimes explicitly against your permission).
If that isn't "malware", I don't know the meaning of the word.
Confirmed.
Yes, this happened to my instance of Win 7 on my laptop just a few days ago. I *never* gave permission for a Win 10 upgrade and *specifically* deselected the stealth updates....and fucking Microsoft went ahead and "upgraded" it to Win 10 anyway.
But it gets worse.
Upon booting I'm presented with a Login screen that insists on a password. This machine never had a password on it, but now it does and I have no idea what it is. I cannot get in to my own PC now. Apparently I need some sort of Windows Live account or some other password, but I honestly have no idea. I am locked out of that entire partition.
My files are there, but I can't get to them. I can't login and so I'm literally locked out of my own PC thanks to the Win 10 forced upgrade.
Fortunately, I installed Linux Mint on it a while ago, and so that's what Ill be using on it from now on I guess. I can boot into that partition at least.
Thanks Microsoft, you shit-eating pukebags.
We're starting to go around in circles here. It is obvious by you using the service, and continuing to use the service, that it is not enough of a problem for you to avoid using the service. So no need for the US system to change it's behavior based on your simple but not bothered enough to do anything about it dislike.
Jesus, that other guy was right- you are an asshole.