> In fact, has anyone heard anything from the responsible linux developers about this? It seems they've already been tried and convicted being evil, stealing code and "stripping off copyright". Although the latter might me legally true, I doubt this was their intention.
I don't know about you, but if these were responsible linux developers, they would have left the header file intact and appended their comments to the file pertaining to the GPL as well. If you strip out information that is requested/demanded not to be removed, then the developers/code stealers are responsible for their actions and must be dealt with accordingly. Re add the headers or face copywrite infringment.
BSD is not dying cause it is constantly being used by Universities cause of the flexible licencing terms. The terms allows the students to use their code within a corporate environment which can allow the student to make extra cash.
Most probably cause he wanted to see how Linux got their HPT Raid support so quickly after FreeBSD released its code. Learn. Learn to Think. Learn to think before you speak.
This should show the community that Linux are not true developers and must rely on others works to implement drivers within their software and profit from others works.
FreeBSD is definately a better nix than what Redhat can ever produce. Just look at all the bugs/hacks within Linux vs FreeBSD. About 10 times more than FreeBSD mostly attributed to the so-called "borrowed" code.
This is bad to have communities build their own networks. The good thing is have the fiber laid down. The bad thing is to have the municipality run it. It just takes too much resources. What would be better is to have the municipality lay the fiber down and have ISPs/backbone providers connect to it. Then the Municipality will get revenue from the ISPs who needs to use the backbone to supply DSL, Dedicated and Dialup pools for the community.
Municipalities can cause havok both in the business world and the IT world as it does not have the resources let alone the knowledge to properly manage a vast network.
Having municipalities Rent out the fiber strands to ISPs would be smarter as the Municipalities would NOT need to buy extremely expensive routers to manage it. All they do is become the fiber provider while the ISPs manage their own equipment or pool together to share routers and switches for these types of networks.
Would you like your money to be lost in an infrastructure where individual municipalites are managing? They would not have the software and hardware neccessary to control illegal activity, DoS, and manage quality of service (QoS).
Having the ISPs take control of the fiber with a rule that they MUST share the costs of the equipment with others who connect to it would be a better decision.
Go figure. Everyone wants Open source/Free stuff and now the whole world financial ecomony is suffering. Telcos offering cheap DSL causing ISPs to close doors, Open source promises of the freer land but end up closing doors and leaving customers in the dark, companies offering free stuff for people and expect the people to click their banners for "alternate" source of income...
I say, to hell with freebies and time to charge a decent price for everything. Atleast, the financial market might recover from all the freebie offerings out there.
IP Addresses cost an annual fee to have. Therefore, this is the reason why they charge for IP Addresses. Most dynamic Dialup IPs are priced within their pricing and therefore you don't see an IP Address charge. If you want static IPs, you have to pay for it. period.
Well, this virus can hit any E-Mail software running on Windows. Not isolated to Outlook. It can be executed in Pegasus, Netscape, and other windows based software. This is because people are curious and want to see what the attachment is all about. They run it and boom they are hit with the virus.
When more virus creators are aware of how to make viruses to be cross-platform, then any OS will become a target. Only problem is that Windows is the majority here and the reason why it is targeted.
NetBEUI has nothing to do with Windows File and Print Services, other then that fact that it is a protocol that can carry NetBIOS traffic.
NETBEUI has Everything to do with Windows File and print services. You can run NETBEUI ONLY and have File and print services available. It is just a NON Routable protocol.
The current problem is that hardware vendors tend to overcharge for their products significantly. Currently, if you looked at breezecom products, the base units and CPE units each cost about $1500-2500 a piece but it costs the hardware vendor about $100-200 per unit to create one unit. Then you got antennae costs, wiring, installation, and each site would then cost you about $3-6000 to setup. If you are charging $75/month to recoup $6000 on a 3 year lease and pay for your other current expenses, you would need about 2-5000 clients to cover your costs. The complete setup above would cost the hardware vendor about $300-500 to make/purchase.
If you want a good wireless solution that is inexpensive (maybe not as fast but works), then check out Zytrax. Their units work with either 115.2kb/sec and a 1.2mb/sec units and should be *nix/*BSD friendly friendly since it runs over ethernet.
Up here in Canada, ISPs are having extreme problems with providing DSL access because the ILECs are running the show at $29.95/month for 1mb/128kb ADSL. People want cheap high speed and the actual costs to ISPs until they get 500 DSL clients range from $40-$100.
The current problem is that the Canadian Government WANTS everything but are NOT willing to offer government grants to ISPs who want to deploy these High speed networks and therefore the ILECs and Cable Cos up here are reaping it all. Currently DSL is underpriced here in Canada at $29.95/month ($19.32 USD) and once all the little ISPs disappears, the Cable and DSL prices will start to increase to "stick it" to the end users.
ISPs who want to self deploy DSL must apply for a CLEC or DLEC license which can cost in the hundreds of thousands of dollars $X00,000+) and thereafter must buy the DSLAMs and CPE. IF the Canadian Government allows ISPs to Co-locate DSLAM equipment and get CLEC pricing levels without the high cost of becoming a CLEC, then maybe individual ISPs can create a better high speed network.
Bell Canada and Cable Cos currently have poor support, fluctuating speeds, and major congestions that some are not even bothering with High speed services. If ISDN pricing had dropped in price, ISDN would be a great service indeed for those who are out of range of DSL.
If there is no money involved, then why would someone make it? Nowadays, due to inflation, time is money. without money, you can't run your computers to make free software.
information ripping software can be considered illegal and the information used via Gnutella or other peer to peer networks can not be used by anyone either. Under the definition as "poking around", this would easily fit in this catagory.
Hence the MPAA and RIAA will lose big time in the courts should port scanning become illegal.
The whole point of free world market is that companies can not be monopolistic on advertising rights. First, it is bad for business. Second, it shows your true intentions that this merger was meant to ensure ONE and ONLY ONE ISP on TV. And third, shut the competition out and possibly shitting on them on TV.
If you enjoy propaganda TV, then by all means, watch TW... Otherwise, I think those ISPs should bring a Class action lawsuit to TW for not allowing ISPs to advertise themselves. Hope they band together and rip AOLTW a new asshole.
Guess you never used an Inductive Amplifier. You can hear the tones SDSL makes on the line. Also, if you remove your inline filters on ADSL, you WILL hear the DSL tones over your phone. Try it and you will see.
ADSL over Copper Voice Line actually works within the audible frequency range. The reason why you have a line filter is to ensure that you do not hear the DSL noise being produced. If you did not have any noise, then you would NOT need any filters. The filters are ONLY for the voice phones to ensure you do not hear the "modem" type sounds of your DSL modem.
From what I have heard, IDSL and g.SHSDSL should be able to run copper/fiber hybrid modes. However, there are several factors involved.
IDSL can work with an ISDN Repeater to extend the ISDL loops to 36000 feet. If anyone knows of any company that can make a ISDN Copper to Fiber Repeater/Converter, and be able to backhaul it accordingly, DSL would NOT need to be placed in Central offices and therefore can be centralized like current modem bank solutions.
g.SHSDSL has the same specs to function with repeaters however, it is still not a standard spec.
The current problems is that phone companies DO NOT like the fact that there are cheaper alternatives to high speed communications and therefore will not like to see these technologies deployable within their networks. Telcos hate the fact that you can order dry copper and run T1 speeds over it, bypassing their thousands of dollars of monthly revenue network for about $40-70.
If the global communications bodies can allow DLECs and ISPs to create a neutral xDSL network with the hybrid mode functional via a governed, regulated body (bypassing telcos in general) then xDSL will be able to be a viable solution for ISPs to deploy.
Only DLECs and ISPs should be able to use this type of network. It would be a private network that would only handle the switching for xDSL services which would function through repeaters. A new body called BHLEC (Data Backhaul Local Exchange Community) should be introduced to regulate the cost of the last mile to a customer.
However, to ensure that this can be possible, the government MUST step in to ensure the ILEC/CLEC offers the repeaters/converters to the BHLEC and a regulated low price.
The other problem with xDSL right now is the cost of equipment. Vendors overcharge for their equipment by a factor of 1000% of the actual cost of building hardware. If you have ever opened a DSL modem/router, you will see that there is not much circuitry involved. Look at Cisco hardware. Their prices have not gone down in price over the years for equipment that is 5 years old. Why? Cause they want to reap the fruit of profit. Greed is the major killer of technological advancement. Same goes with the modem industry. USR/3COM has a modem called V.Everything. It is a 56k modem however, the unit costs about $200-300 dollars. You can purchase a GVC 56k modem that is similar to the 3COM modem at around $40. Functions the same, except it costs much less. WHY? Greed. plain and simple.
Computer parts and hardware has dropped in price significantly over the years. Because of this, the consumers have reaped many benefits from reduced prices for products. Tens of GB of IDE hard drives around $100-150, DVD-ROM drives around $75, Alternative recording formats at reasonable pricings. But the cost of Routers and Switches still remain at outrageous prices.
If the world was not as greedy, then maybe the whole world would be a much better place to live and offer every country the efficent cost of expanding faster.
I do not think ISPs will cave in to this demand unless a court order for that specific client who is offended has been issued. ISPs are NOT responsible for the content of the client's computers. Therefore, MPAA may try to go for the ISPs to get the client shut down, but most ISPs will ask for court orders before anything will be done.
In Canada, most ISPs have a rule that if the information does not reside on the ISPs servers, then anyone who wants to persue a client's network habits with information residing on the client's computer, then a court order must be served before any information is disclosed.
If you look at it, it is like telling the Bus driver to not allow a specific person on the bus cause he is has done something illegal and is not allowed to transport the illegal substance/items.
ISPs are not police. If the MPAA wants to persue someone who has offended them, they must get a court order against the person and not the carrier. The same goes for the Telcos. Before police can monitor the activity, they must get a court order to allow the monitoring activities and therefore must pay any fees that are involved.
The reason why DSL companies are failing is because of the hardware manufacturers. They are overcharging for the hardware out there. As an example, the cost of a typical DSLAM ranges for 48 ports @ $35,000 to the 672 port models @ $250,000 level. The cost is between $400 to $1000 per port. Then you need the ATM OC links to hook up the units, which can run $50,000-100,000 per month plus each interchange to the COs and then you got hundreds of millions of dollars of expenses with minimal profits.
Fiber costs have significantly dropped but the Telcos have not reduced these pricings off their regulated prices. Router and Switching manufacturers are now hurting cause they charge way too much for their equipment. If they slashed the cost of their hardware in half, then possibly everyone would benefit from it and eventually be able to push forward to offer DSL services at reasonable pricing.
Resell pricing of High speed @ $20-30/month is hurting everyone and eventually the end user when they lose their service. High Speed resell connections should be priced at about $60-100/month to relate more appropriately the annual costs of serving DSL. This would mean $90-140/month to the end user.
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> In fact, has anyone heard anything from the responsible linux developers about this? It seems they've already been tried and convicted being evil, stealing code and "stripping off copyright". Although the latter might me legally true, I doubt this was their intention.
I don't know about you, but if these were responsible linux developers, they would have left the header file intact and appended their comments to the file pertaining to the GPL as well. If you strip out information that is requested/demanded not to be removed, then the developers/code stealers are responsible for their actions and must be dealt with accordingly. Re add the headers or face copywrite infringment.
BSD is not dying cause it is constantly being used by Universities cause of the flexible licencing terms. The terms allows the students to use their code within a corporate environment which can allow the student to make extra cash.
Most probably cause he wanted to see how Linux got their HPT Raid support so quickly after FreeBSD released its code. Learn. Learn to Think. Learn to think before you speak.
This should show the community that Linux are not true developers and must rely on others works to implement drivers within their software and profit from others works.
FreeBSD is definately a better nix than what Redhat can ever produce. Just look at all the bugs/hacks within Linux vs FreeBSD. About 10 times more than FreeBSD mostly attributed to the so-called "borrowed" code.
HEY!!!!
ANYONE got a Kyro II Vid Card with a Dual Processor board? This should make the Kyro II Board totally outperform the latest and greatest GeForce3!!!
Think about it... OpenGl calls handled by a dedicated CPU. The Kyro II would love that for sure.
This is bad to have communities build their own networks. The good thing is have the fiber laid down. The bad thing is to have the municipality run it. It just takes too much resources. What would be better is to have the municipality lay the fiber down and have ISPs/backbone providers connect to it. Then the Municipality will get revenue from the ISPs who needs to use the backbone to supply DSL, Dedicated and Dialup pools for the community.
Municipalities can cause havok both in the business world and the IT world as it does not have the resources let alone the knowledge to properly manage a vast network.
Having municipalities Rent out the fiber strands to ISPs would be smarter as the Municipalities would NOT need to buy extremely expensive routers to manage it. All they do is become the fiber provider while the ISPs manage their own equipment or pool together to share routers and switches for these types of networks.
Would you like your money to be lost in an infrastructure where individual municipalites are managing? They would not have the software and hardware neccessary to control illegal activity, DoS, and manage quality of service (QoS).
Having the ISPs take control of the fiber with a rule that they MUST share the costs of the equipment with others who connect to it would be a better decision.
the ONLY way to protect yourself from a trojan is to unplug it from the 'Net. Trojans are becoming cross platform as an OS is to Java.
Go figure. Everyone wants Open source/Free stuff and now the whole world financial ecomony is suffering. Telcos offering cheap DSL causing ISPs to close doors, Open source promises of the freer land but end up closing doors and leaving customers in the dark, companies offering free stuff for people and expect the people to click their banners for "alternate" source of income...
I say, to hell with freebies and time to charge a decent price for everything. Atleast, the financial market might recover from all the freebie offerings out there.
IP Addresses cost an annual fee to have. Therefore, this is the reason why they charge for IP Addresses. Most dynamic Dialup IPs are priced within their pricing and therefore you don't see an IP Address charge. If you want static IPs, you have to pay for it. period.
Well, this virus can hit any E-Mail software running on Windows. Not isolated to Outlook. It can be executed in Pegasus, Netscape, and other windows based software. This is because people are curious and want to see what the attachment is all about. They run it and boom they are hit with the virus.
When more virus creators are aware of how to make viruses to be cross-platform, then any OS will become a target. Only problem is that Windows is the majority here and the reason why it is targeted.
This is what my prompt says on one of my servers...
"
So, Idiot, What do you want to fuck up today?
C:\>
"
NetBEUI has nothing to do with Windows File and Print Services, other then that fact that it is a protocol that can carry NetBIOS traffic.
NETBEUI has Everything to do with Windows File and print services. You can run NETBEUI ONLY and have File and print services available. It is just a NON Routable protocol.
...the ground. Hardware Vendors!
The current problem is that hardware vendors tend to overcharge for their products significantly. Currently, if you looked at breezecom products, the base units and CPE units each cost about $1500-2500 a piece but it costs the hardware vendor about $100-200 per unit to create one unit. Then you got antennae costs, wiring, installation, and each site would then cost you about $3-6000 to setup. If you are charging $75/month to recoup $6000 on a 3 year lease and pay for your other current expenses, you would need about 2-5000 clients to cover your costs. The complete setup above would cost the hardware vendor about $300-500 to make/purchase.
If you want a good wireless solution that is inexpensive (maybe not as fast but works), then check out Zytrax. Their units work with either 115.2kb/sec and a 1.2mb/sec units and should be *nix/*BSD friendly friendly since it runs over ethernet.
yeah but costs you $0.25/minute to use it... Try finding a better solution. Cellular Data services is just tooo f*cking expensive.
No, but you can ram into a traffic jam and not get your information you requested... which usually happens on DSL and Cable connections now.
Up here in Canada, ISPs are having extreme problems with providing DSL access because the ILECs are running the show at $29.95/month for 1mb/128kb ADSL. People want cheap high speed and the actual costs to ISPs until they get 500 DSL clients range from $40-$100.
The current problem is that the Canadian Government WANTS everything but are NOT willing to offer government grants to ISPs who want to deploy these High speed networks and therefore the ILECs and Cable Cos up here are reaping it all. Currently DSL is underpriced here in Canada at $29.95/month ($19.32 USD) and once all the little ISPs disappears, the Cable and DSL prices will start to increase to "stick it" to the end users.
ISPs who want to self deploy DSL must apply for a CLEC or DLEC license which can cost in the hundreds of thousands of dollars $X00,000+) and thereafter must buy the DSLAMs and CPE. IF the Canadian Government allows ISPs to Co-locate DSLAM equipment and get CLEC pricing levels without the high cost of becoming a CLEC, then maybe individual ISPs can create a better high speed network.
Bell Canada and Cable Cos currently have poor support, fluctuating speeds, and major congestions that some are not even bothering with High speed services. If ISDN pricing had dropped in price, ISDN would be a great service indeed for those who are out of range of DSL.
If there is no money involved, then why would someone make it? Nowadays, due to inflation, time is money. without money, you can't run your computers to make free software.
information ripping software can be considered illegal and the information used via Gnutella or other peer to peer networks can not be used by anyone either. Under the definition as "poking around", this would easily fit in this catagory. Hence the MPAA and RIAA will lose big time in the courts should port scanning become illegal.
Well, I guess you are an AOL user/lover.
The whole point of free world market is that companies can not be monopolistic on advertising rights. First, it is bad for business. Second, it shows your true intentions that this merger was meant to ensure ONE and ONLY ONE ISP on TV. And third, shut the competition out and possibly shitting on them on TV.
If you enjoy propaganda TV, then by all means, watch TW... Otherwise, I think those ISPs should bring a Class action lawsuit to TW for not allowing ISPs to advertise themselves. Hope they band together and rip AOLTW a new asshole.
Guess you never used an Inductive Amplifier. You can hear the tones SDSL makes on the line. Also, if you remove your inline filters on ADSL, you WILL hear the DSL tones over your phone. Try it and you will see.
ADSL over Copper Voice Line actually works within the audible frequency range. The reason why you have a line filter is to ensure that you do not hear the DSL noise being produced. If you did not have any noise, then you would NOT need any filters. The filters are ONLY for the voice phones to ensure you do not hear the "modem" type sounds of your DSL modem.
From what I have heard, IDSL and g.SHSDSL should be able to run copper/fiber hybrid modes. However, there are several factors involved. IDSL can work with an ISDN Repeater to extend the ISDL loops to 36000 feet. If anyone knows of any company that can make a ISDN Copper to Fiber Repeater/Converter, and be able to backhaul it accordingly, DSL would NOT need to be placed in Central offices and therefore can be centralized like current modem bank solutions. g.SHSDSL has the same specs to function with repeaters however, it is still not a standard spec. The current problems is that phone companies DO NOT like the fact that there are cheaper alternatives to high speed communications and therefore will not like to see these technologies deployable within their networks. Telcos hate the fact that you can order dry copper and run T1 speeds over it, bypassing their thousands of dollars of monthly revenue network for about $40-70. If the global communications bodies can allow DLECs and ISPs to create a neutral xDSL network with the hybrid mode functional via a governed, regulated body (bypassing telcos in general) then xDSL will be able to be a viable solution for ISPs to deploy. Only DLECs and ISPs should be able to use this type of network. It would be a private network that would only handle the switching for xDSL services which would function through repeaters. A new body called BHLEC (Data Backhaul Local Exchange Community) should be introduced to regulate the cost of the last mile to a customer. However, to ensure that this can be possible, the government MUST step in to ensure the ILEC/CLEC offers the repeaters/converters to the BHLEC and a regulated low price. The other problem with xDSL right now is the cost of equipment. Vendors overcharge for their equipment by a factor of 1000% of the actual cost of building hardware. If you have ever opened a DSL modem/router, you will see that there is not much circuitry involved. Look at Cisco hardware. Their prices have not gone down in price over the years for equipment that is 5 years old. Why? Cause they want to reap the fruit of profit. Greed is the major killer of technological advancement. Same goes with the modem industry. USR/3COM has a modem called V.Everything. It is a 56k modem however, the unit costs about $200-300 dollars. You can purchase a GVC 56k modem that is similar to the 3COM modem at around $40. Functions the same, except it costs much less. WHY? Greed. plain and simple. Computer parts and hardware has dropped in price significantly over the years. Because of this, the consumers have reaped many benefits from reduced prices for products. Tens of GB of IDE hard drives around $100-150, DVD-ROM drives around $75, Alternative recording formats at reasonable pricings. But the cost of Routers and Switches still remain at outrageous prices. If the world was not as greedy, then maybe the whole world would be a much better place to live and offer every country the efficent cost of expanding faster.
Well,
The easiest way to circumvent the offence is to use a proxy server. Then you can not determine who did it.
I do not think ISPs will cave in to this demand unless a court order for that specific client who is offended has been issued. ISPs are NOT responsible for the content of the client's computers. Therefore, MPAA may try to go for the ISPs to get the client shut down, but most ISPs will ask for court orders before anything will be done.
In Canada, most ISPs have a rule that if the information does not reside on the ISPs servers, then anyone who wants to persue a client's network habits with information residing on the client's computer, then a court order must be served before any information is disclosed.
If you look at it, it is like telling the Bus driver to not allow a specific person on the bus cause he is has done something illegal and is not allowed to transport the illegal substance/items.
ISPs are not police. If the MPAA wants to persue someone who has offended them, they must get a court order against the person and not the carrier. The same goes for the Telcos. Before police can monitor the activity, they must get a court order to allow the monitoring activities and therefore must pay any fees that are involved.
The reason why DSL companies are failing is because of the hardware manufacturers. They are overcharging for the hardware out there. As an example, the cost of a typical DSLAM ranges for 48 ports @ $35,000 to the 672 port models @ $250,000 level. The cost is between $400 to $1000 per port. Then you need the ATM OC links to hook up the units, which can run $50,000-100,000 per month plus each interchange to the COs and then you got hundreds of millions of dollars of expenses with minimal profits. Fiber costs have significantly dropped but the Telcos have not reduced these pricings off their regulated prices. Router and Switching manufacturers are now hurting cause they charge way too much for their equipment. If they slashed the cost of their hardware in half, then possibly everyone would benefit from it and eventually be able to push forward to offer DSL services at reasonable pricing. Resell pricing of High speed @ $20-30/month is hurting everyone and eventually the end user when they lose their service. High Speed resell connections should be priced at about $60-100/month to relate more appropriately the annual costs of serving DSL. This would mean $90-140/month to the end user.
Not everyone have the luxury of spending 100-200$ per month for Internet Access.