I'm going to disagree somewhat. Most of his supporters were from rural areas, which didn't get much in the way of social services anyway - there's a budget bias towards the cities and it's harder to get aid in rural areas as well. As such, reduced taxes really only help those people. Tariffs would make goods more expensive, but if these people get jobs from new manufacturing (debatable) then they'd at least have something.
This is something I think a lot of the left didn't understand. Many small rural towns are disintegrating because the one factory that employed everyone closed down or moved. These people have very few economic prospects, and they've largely been ignored by both sides. The shunning by the left hurt more, though, because the left is supposed to care about the poor - but in practice they mostly help the urban poor. And the cultural forces, which are overwhelmingly liberal, make fun of them all the time. Call them stupid hicks, insult their lifestyle, etc. It was only natural they'd take offence at some point.
Both sides are being asshats. Trump said some illegal immigrants from Mexico were rapists, not that Mexicans as a whole were. It's a bigoted statement, but try to get it right. Given Bill's record I'd be surprised if he hadn't grabbed a few by the pussy. And Hillary's supporters don't encourage violence? That's a laugh. Take a look on Twitter some time. They are threatening to beat up Trump voters. They started fights at Trump rallies. They maced a (Hispanic) grandmother and one of her grandkids.
Bigger picture, the Left is guilty of painting all Trump supporters as if they were Trump himself, when many aren't bad people, they're just scared. Trump got lots of votes in areas where Obama did well with white voters. There are certainly elements of racism, but most of the Left are painting it like it's the whole picture. It's clearly not.
This sort of angry, insulting rhetoric helps nobody. If America wants to move forward, people on both sides need to stop being such asshats and actually try to listen to each other.
I halfway think he chose Pence specifically to prevent stuff like that. Both are dangerous, but I think Pence is better connected with the GOP, and could get more done with Congress.
Imagine how dissatisfied that public will be if the EC goes against them. That's probably a bigger danger.
Trump - indeed, any POTUS - cannot reverse Supreme Court decisions. Even stacking the SC with his judges wouldn't help unless a case makes it all the way to them. He also can't do anything about LGBT rights without Congress, and indeed, Trump has been pretty progressive about those issues. Pence is incredibly bad about them, but it remains to be seen how much Trump will listen to him.
Trump will not be good for America, no question. Best-case scenario is system reform after the fact. But there's also pretty severe limits on how much he can do by himself, and even the GOP-controlled Congress doesn't like him much.
Yep. It's honestly somewhat frightening; it seems like people are only getting more and more polarized. It's getting harder for a lot of people to even empathize with people they have significant disagreements with.
And by "does seem to work" you mean a fearsomely difficult experiment gives positive results within experimental error.
From TFA:
The results of NASA's tests on the 'impossible' EM Drive have been leaked, and they reveal that the controversial propulsion system really does work, and is capable of generating impressive thrust in a vacuum, even after error measurements have been accounted for.
and bigots have been emboldened by what they perceive as support.
This is a bad thing, but it's also partly the Remain campaign's fault. If you spend a lot of time focusing on bigotry as the major motivation to leave, and then Leave wins, obviously the bigots are going to perceive support. By ignoring other reasons people wanted to leave, Remain emboldened the bigots.
Other countries absolutely are supposed to figure out if you're following your own rules, because that's the only way they can know whether you're taking it seriously or not. You can be politically bound, but not legally, and international judges wouldn't rule against you.
Rule of law has been respected only if you agree that it's not legally binding. The Senate would need to approve it otherwise.
It indicates they don't actually consider it bad, at least any more. An anonymous report from more than two years ago versus an expert? Hmm, I wonder which is more likely to be right.
No, I did not mean to make a blanket statement about abbreviations in general. AP reports on those threats are both old and based on unreliable information, and whether or not Western powers intend disrespect is irrelevant to whether disrespect is acknowledged. If you're trying to cause offense but none is taken, then at the very least it's not an effective pejorative. Perhaps I should have said ISIS doesn't take it as a pejorative rather than saying it isn't one, though.
I didn't say anything about PIIGS or whether it's derogatory. Swing and a miss there, bud. And if you read my links, you'd see refutations of your other points.
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I'm going to disagree somewhat. Most of his supporters were from rural areas, which didn't get much in the way of social services anyway - there's a budget bias towards the cities and it's harder to get aid in rural areas as well. As such, reduced taxes really only help those people. Tariffs would make goods more expensive, but if these people get jobs from new manufacturing (debatable) then they'd at least have something.
This is something I think a lot of the left didn't understand. Many small rural towns are disintegrating because the one factory that employed everyone closed down or moved. These people have very few economic prospects, and they've largely been ignored by both sides. The shunning by the left hurt more, though, because the left is supposed to care about the poor - but in practice they mostly help the urban poor. And the cultural forces, which are overwhelmingly liberal, make fun of them all the time. Call them stupid hicks, insult their lifestyle, etc. It was only natural they'd take offence at some point.
I didn't say they were great people, let alone good. Just that most of them aren't bad. But yeah, keep the hyperbole train rolling.
Both sides are being asshats. Trump said some illegal immigrants from Mexico were rapists, not that Mexicans as a whole were. It's a bigoted statement, but try to get it right. Given Bill's record I'd be surprised if he hadn't grabbed a few by the pussy. And Hillary's supporters don't encourage violence? That's a laugh. Take a look on Twitter some time. They are threatening to beat up Trump voters. They started fights at Trump rallies. They maced a (Hispanic) grandmother and one of her grandkids.
Bigger picture, the Left is guilty of painting all Trump supporters as if they were Trump himself, when many aren't bad people, they're just scared. Trump got lots of votes in areas where Obama did well with white voters. There are certainly elements of racism, but most of the Left are painting it like it's the whole picture. It's clearly not.
This sort of angry, insulting rhetoric helps nobody. If America wants to move forward, people on both sides need to stop being such asshats and actually try to listen to each other.
Doubtful. The US job market for those things is still great, and I bet he'd try to put high exit taxes on people leaving.
I halfway think he chose Pence specifically to prevent stuff like that. Both are dangerous, but I think Pence is better connected with the GOP, and could get more done with Congress.
Trump might not make things better himself, but him being elected might make people want to actually reform the system into something better.
True, but people who will be severely affected in the short term don't always look at the long term. In close races, that can make a difference.
Remember, the housing market crashed because of changes under Bill, and W signed the bailouts.
Imagine how dissatisfied that public will be if the EC goes against them. That's probably a bigger danger.
Trump - indeed, any POTUS - cannot reverse Supreme Court decisions. Even stacking the SC with his judges wouldn't help unless a case makes it all the way to them. He also can't do anything about LGBT rights without Congress, and indeed, Trump has been pretty progressive about those issues. Pence is incredibly bad about them, but it remains to be seen how much Trump will listen to him.
Trump will not be good for America, no question. Best-case scenario is system reform after the fact. But there's also pretty severe limits on how much he can do by himself, and even the GOP-controlled Congress doesn't like him much.
So going by this logic politicians should just shut up
Now there's a plan I can get behind!
Yep. It's honestly somewhat frightening; it seems like people are only getting more and more polarized. It's getting harder for a lot of people to even empathize with people they have significant disagreements with.
And by "does seem to work" you mean a fearsomely difficult experiment gives positive results within experimental error.
From TFA:
The results of NASA's tests on the 'impossible' EM Drive have been leaked, and they reveal that the controversial propulsion system really does work, and is capable of generating impressive thrust in a vacuum, even after error measurements have been accounted for.
The article indicates experimental error is getting to be a less and less likely explanation for the results.
There's going to be plenty of that no matter who wins.
Huh, that's interesting. I definitely hadn't heard of that campaign before, thanks for the info!
and bigots have been emboldened by what they perceive as support.
This is a bad thing, but it's also partly the Remain campaign's fault. If you spend a lot of time focusing on bigotry as the major motivation to leave, and then Leave wins, obviously the bigots are going to perceive support. By ignoring other reasons people wanted to leave, Remain emboldened the bigots.
And here I thought the alarmist BS couldn't get any worse this election. Thanks, I got a chuckle out of this.
Other countries absolutely are supposed to figure out if you're following your own rules, because that's the only way they can know whether you're taking it seriously or not. You can be politically bound, but not legally, and international judges wouldn't rule against you.
Rule of law has been respected only if you agree that it's not legally binding. The Senate would need to approve it otherwise.
False. Just because Obama said "yeah sure, we'll sign this" doesn't mean it's considered binding domestically or abroad.
It indicates they don't actually consider it bad, at least any more. An anonymous report from more than two years ago versus an expert? Hmm, I wonder which is more likely to be right.
Here you go.
Yes, I know about the Indian tectonic plate. You do realize I just said Europe shouldn't be considered its own continent, right?
A very small part of California is its own plate, and the Caribbean isn't part of either continent.
No, I did not mean to make a blanket statement about abbreviations in general. AP reports on those threats are both old and based on unreliable information, and whether or not Western powers intend disrespect is irrelevant to whether disrespect is acknowledged. If you're trying to cause offense but none is taken, then at the very least it's not an effective pejorative. Perhaps I should have said ISIS doesn't take it as a pejorative rather than saying it isn't one, though.
I didn't say anything about PIIGS or whether it's derogatory. Swing and a miss there, bud. And if you read my links, you'd see refutations of your other points.