Re:Religious bigotry: alive and well in the USA.
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Actually, it made fun of Hinduism too. Remember, Ghandi was one of the faces in Hell.
As for the movie itself, I found it hilarious, even though I'm a rather devout Catholic. I knew that it would be offensive ahead of time, didn't take anything that it said seriously (nobody should take it seriously), and just enjoyed the show.
I don't think that the creators are biased specifically against Christianity. I believe that the purpose of the movie (if it actually had any) is to poke fun at the people who attack offensive material. Since (at least here in America), those people tend to be conservative Christian groups, I bet that a few things were thrown in there just to piss them off (e.g., Jesus was marching with the army, but it was only shown very briefly).
"Too bad the things that make you mad are my favorite things"
The article mentions that if the case isn't settled, there will be a jury trial. My question is, what kind of people are going to be on the jury? You can't expect a normal non-technical person (especially a Windows user) to understand things like source code or compatibility issues. I'd be willing to bet that if it goes to trial, Microsoft will find some way of baffling the jury into finding them innocent...
I realize that this is a bit off-topic, but what do you people keep doing that makes NT crash?
I've been running NT (SP4) on my computer here at school for the last 4 months. Not once has it crashed, blue-screened, or frozen. I'm running a wide variety of software, including WinAmp, Starcraft, Netscape, Visual C++, JDK, Office, and even (gasp) IE5, along with the Peer Web server (similar to IIS; comes with NT workstation).
Everyone keeps complaining aobut how unstable and unreliable NT is, but I've yet to see any evidence of this. What are you running on it when it crashes?
Yeah, but Feynman is a bit difficult to get in touch with, seeing as how he's dead. However, Kip Thorne is alive and well (and working down the hall from me).
Not at all. Just the dangers of being ignorant. I use the products of said Evil Empire (NT & Visual Studio), and I have no problems with viruses.
The danger is that: A) People like easy to use software that works with other software.
B) People don't know what causes viruses (worms, trojan horses, whatever you want to call it) and therefore can't stop the spread of them. Just like little kids shouldn't take candy from strangers, novice users shouldn't download files from stangers.
C) People use e-mail to send files. Most don't know any other methods for sending things, and don't see anything wrong with using e-mail for this.
Now, when I say "people", I don't mean you or me. I mean someone like my mother or someone that works at marketing. Such a person has (most likely) never had any contact with another operating system, and use whatever software came installed or configured on their machine. Since this is MS by default, it stays there.
I don't really think Microsoft is at fault here. The fault lies with people being too ignorant of computers (or too stupid to question the origin of files that get sent to them), and with others (such as the corporations that get affected) for not educating them.
-ElJefe (off to e-mail my mother not to download any strange files)
So, what you're saying is that I can only be a true nerd if don't use Windows? Give me a break. I go to Caltech, probably the nerdiest school in the country (we had Bill Nye the Science Guy as our commencement speaker last year), and I'm an Applied Math major, which is basically a CS degree with a lot more math.
Not all of the articles posted on Slashdot are specifically about Linux, and most of them have at least some relevance to my life. I don't read everything, just the stuff I'm interested in. I usually read stuff relating to Microsoft, because I like to see people complain about it.
Try reading everything with an open, unbiased mind, and you'd be amazed how much crap gets posted.
-ElJefe
Oh, and not to be picky, but address that you have listed as your homepage is down. Perhaps a different web server (or OS) would help (heh heh)
Actually, Microsoft gave away free copies of NT Workstation and Visual Studio at my school (Caltech). So I didn't pay a dime for any of it, unless you count tuition.
At least there's one other clear-headed individual around here. I refuse to subscribe to the pro-Linux propaganda just because Microsoft is a huge company.
I personally am running dual boot NT/98 here at school. I've got IIS, SET@Home, WinAmp, Netscaoe, IE5, Visual C++, JDK, and StarCraft all running flawlessly on it. I've had to reboot ONCE in the last month, and that was when a WinAmp plug-in started acting funky. I had plenty of experience running an NT network as a job last summer, so I knew how to configure this system when I got it. Properly done, NT works great.
Now, I'm not saying that Microsoft (or its products) are perfect. What I'm saying is that they work damn well for what I need. If Linux works better for you, that's fine. But you should get all worked up just because Microsoft is trying to protect itself financially.
How can you say this? The operating system has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
The problem is that there isn't enough good software, that it's too expensive, no one uses it, etc. I think that in this situation, Linux would actually be counter-productive since it's too hard for most students (or even teachers) to use effectively.
Some people are trying to have a serious discussion here. You shouldn't consider this an opportunity to spread your opinions on OS's...
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Actually, it made fun of Hinduism too. Remember, Ghandi was one of the faces in Hell.
As for the movie itself, I found it hilarious, even though I'm a rather devout Catholic. I knew that it would be offensive ahead of time, didn't take anything that it said seriously (nobody should take it seriously), and just enjoyed the show.
I don't think that the creators are biased specifically against Christianity. I believe that the purpose of the movie (if it actually had any) is to poke fun at the people who attack offensive material. Since (at least here in America), those people tend to be conservative Christian groups, I bet that a few things were thrown in there just to piss them off (e.g., Jesus was marching with the army, but it was only shown very briefly).
"Too bad the things that make you mad are my favorite things"
-Incubus
The article mentions that if the case isn't settled, there will be a jury trial. My question is, what kind of people are going to be on the jury? You can't expect a normal non-technical person (especially a Windows user) to understand things like source code or compatibility issues. I'd be willing to bet that if it goes to trial, Microsoft will find some way of baffling the jury into finding them innocent...
-ElJefe
That's why I wear sandals. Better safe than sorry...
I realize that this is a bit off-topic, but what do you people keep doing that makes NT crash?
I've been running NT (SP4) on my computer here at school for the last 4 months. Not once has it crashed, blue-screened, or frozen. I'm running a wide variety of software, including WinAmp, Starcraft, Netscape, Visual C++, JDK, Office, and even (gasp) IE5, along with the Peer Web server (similar to IIS; comes with NT workstation).
Everyone keeps complaining aobut how unstable and unreliable NT is, but I've yet to see any evidence of this. What are you running on it when it crashes?
-ElJefe
Yeah, but Feynman is a bit difficult to get in touch with, seeing as how he's dead. However, Kip Thorne is alive and well (and working down the hall from me).
-ElJefe
Not at all. Just the dangers of being ignorant. I use the products of said Evil Empire (NT & Visual Studio), and I have no problems with viruses.
The danger is that:
A) People like easy to use software that works with other software.
B) People don't know what causes viruses (worms, trojan horses, whatever you want to call it) and therefore can't stop the spread of them. Just like little kids shouldn't take candy from strangers, novice users shouldn't download files from stangers.
C) People use e-mail to send files. Most don't know any other methods for sending things, and don't see anything wrong with using e-mail for this.
Now, when I say "people", I don't mean you or me. I mean someone like my mother or someone that works at marketing. Such a person has (most likely) never had any contact with another operating system, and use whatever software came installed or configured on their machine. Since this is MS by default, it stays there.
I don't really think Microsoft is at fault here. The fault lies with people being too ignorant of computers (or too stupid to question the origin of files that get sent to them), and with others (such as the corporations that get affected) for not educating them.
-ElJefe
(off to e-mail my mother not to download any strange files)
Amen.
-ElJefe
So, what you're saying is that I can only be a true nerd if don't use Windows? Give me a break. I go to Caltech, probably the nerdiest school in the country (we had Bill Nye the Science Guy as our commencement speaker last year), and I'm an Applied Math major, which is basically a CS degree with a lot more math.
Not all of the articles posted on Slashdot are specifically about Linux, and most of them have at least some relevance to my life. I don't read everything, just the stuff I'm interested in. I usually read stuff relating to Microsoft, because I like to see people complain about it.
Try reading everything with an open, unbiased mind, and you'd be amazed how much crap gets posted.
-ElJefe
Oh, and not to be picky, but address that you have listed as your homepage is down. Perhaps a different web server (or OS) would help (heh heh)
Actually, Microsoft gave away free copies of NT Workstation and Visual Studio at my school (Caltech). So I didn't pay a dime for any of it, unless you count tuition.
-ElJefe
At least there's one other clear-headed individual around here. I refuse to subscribe to the pro-Linux propaganda just because Microsoft is a huge company.
I personally am running dual boot NT/98 here at school. I've got IIS, SET@Home, WinAmp, Netscaoe, IE5, Visual C++, JDK, and StarCraft all running flawlessly on it. I've had to reboot ONCE in the last month, and that was when a WinAmp plug-in started acting funky. I had plenty of experience running an NT network as a job last summer, so I knew how to configure this system when I got it. Properly done, NT works great.
Now, I'm not saying that Microsoft (or its products) are perfect. What I'm saying is that they work damn well for what I need. If Linux works better for you, that's fine. But you should get all worked up just because Microsoft is trying to protect itself financially.
-ElJefe
How can you say this? The operating system has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
The problem is that there isn't enough good software, that it's too expensive, no one uses it, etc. I think that in this situation, Linux would actually be counter-productive since it's too hard for most students (or even teachers) to use effectively.
Some people are trying to have a serious discussion here. You shouldn't consider this an opportunity to spread your opinions on OS's...
Nothing is going to stop it. That's why the whole thing is stupid. All it's doing is showing the ignorance of the industry...