email address is acluva@aol.com. The point guy is Kent Willis.
Here's what I sent them:
Mr. Willis-
Re: your stance on the soon-to-be-law making spam illegal, I welcome you, anytime you're in Charlottesville, to come by and look at our spam logs. Spam is the moral equivalent of me standing in YOUR living room with a megaphone. Do you have the right to stifle my speech? Yes? Because it's your property. This is my network (well, my boss's...I'm just the engineer on this choo-choo), so I guess I have the right to stifle a megaphone toting idiot in my workplace. Perhaps another metaphor...what if I were to stop by your house or office and plaster 1000 handbills on the walls. And another guy did it. Then another guy. Who cleans it up? That would be you. That's what working at an ISP is like on the spam front. It is not free speech. It is theft of services, pure and simple. We have to deal with the bounce messages, the complaints, then more bounces, then more complaints, then...you get the idea. I have no sympathies with the direct marketers who feel their right to make a profit from my time is threatened. Ultimately, that is the type of person the ACLU would be sticking up for in this matter. Parasites. Though I suppose they have their place in someone's cosmos. This is NOT a civil liberties issue. You have no more right to send 10,000 emails across MY network than I have to drive my car 10,000 times through your front yard with a pizza ad on the roof. Perhaps you are aware of the fact that we do NOT own our postal boxes? The USPO dictates what can and can't go into it. But, I do own my email "box". I pay for/trade for it. Therefore I dictate what can and cannot go into it. So what gives bob@selling-crap.com the right to send me and everyone else unwanted email? Is the right to "send" more eminent than the right to refuse? I'd hate to think where that logic would go if extended into the rest of human interaction. I trust this little rant finds you healthy and prosperous. best, jamie
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Remember Birthright? THAT was a cool game, and Sierra killed it. The fact that YASSG (Yet Another Stupid Sports Game) was released is proof that Sierra's marketing dept. needs therapy.
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Slashdot Mirror
>Slashdot is much higher than average forums, but
>i hope that more press doesn't change that.
I don't think it will.
press, by the way it's made.
Dunno if the same can be said about its makers:)
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Isaac Asimov once wrote a ditty,
sung to the tune of "Home On The Range":
Oh give me a clone,
of my own flesh and bone,
with the Y chromosone
changed to X,
and when I'm alone
my very own clone
will be of the opposite sex.
I told ya it was apropos of very little,
but for the subject of clones...
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Did anyone notice that when Compaq announced
that AV was for sale, it improved?
I use google these days anyway.
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http://www.microsoft.com/info/pr ivacy_security.htm
404 as of about 11:30am EDT.:)
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$whois internic.net
[rs.internic.net]
No match for "INTERNIC.NET".
The InterNIC Registration Services database contains ONLY...balh blah
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Congrats guys! If it weren't for you, I might get some work done.:)
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Here's what I sent them:
Mr. Willis-
Re: your stance on the soon-to-be-law making spam illegal, I welcome you,
anytime you're in Charlottesville, to come by and look at our spam logs.
Spam is the moral equivalent of me standing in YOUR living room with a
megaphone. Do you have the right to stifle my speech? Yes? Because it's
your property. This is my network (well, my boss's...I'm just the engineer
on this choo-choo), so I guess I have the right to stifle a megaphone
toting idiot in my workplace.
Perhaps another metaphor...what if I were to stop by your house or office
and plaster 1000 handbills on the walls. And another guy did it. Then
another guy. Who cleans it up? That would be you.
That's what working at an ISP is like on the spam front. It is not free speech. It is theft of services, pure and simple. We have to deal with the bounce messages, the complaints, then more bounces, then more complaints, then...you get the idea. I have no sympathies with the direct marketers who feel their right to make a profit from my time is threatened.
Ultimately, that is the type of person the ACLU would be sticking up for in this matter. Parasites. Though I suppose they have their place in someone's cosmos.
This is NOT a civil liberties issue. You have no more right to send 10,000 emails across MY network than I have to drive my car 10,000 times
through your front yard with a pizza ad on the roof.
Perhaps you are aware of the fact that we do NOT own our postal boxes?
The USPO dictates what can and can't go into it. But, I do own my email "box". I pay for/trade for it. Therefore I dictate what can and cannot go
into it. So what gives bob@selling-crap.com the right to send me and everyone else unwanted email? Is the right to "send" more eminent than the right to refuse? I'd hate to think where that logic would go if extended into the rest of human interaction.
I trust this little rant finds you healthy and prosperous.
best,
jamie
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Your Favorite OS Sucks.
^D
not the OS maker? Correct me if
I'm wrong, but it's the PC maker who puts the
preloaded stuff on there.
Ummm...the whole point of this is that the
manufacturers were NOT responding to refund
requests, hence the need to go to MS.
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Stupid Sports Game) was released is proof that
Sierra's marketing dept. needs therapy.
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