According to the blithering nonsense from both the judge and the persicution, if the files were "readable" there would not be a problem.
Thus, if one "hides" their encrypted information, using strgonagraphy,in a file or series of files, and those files appear to be readable, the government would have no reason to hold the files.
Be that as it may, I believe the government has no right to keep property just because they do not know what it is. The burden is on the sholders of the state to prove that the information is some sort of contraband. This is just another example of the government giving individual rights a wink before cracking the whip to show who is master.
BTW, "plans for taking down a system" should be covered under "free speech".
Oh yes, I completely agree. If I concentrated in that field I would do that myself (if I could convince the NT and Bug folks to go along with it). As it stands now, I do not even have time to keep an automated website up:(
A researcher has found some Echelon documents and made some conclusions that counter those put forth by the online community. Wired story here Please do not moderate down, this has relevance.
OKOK, I could not spell my name without notes, but check the above places as well as Packetstorm (link at http://www.hackernews.com), yea a daily scan of hackernews is good too.
Listen to Off the Hook http://www.2600.com/offthehook/ check 2600 news daily, buy 2600 magazine too for a general look at some of the more out-of-the-way items that crop up.
Your local 2600 meeting (if there is one in your area) will probably have other professionals with the same concerns as you, with solutions.
So, this fiction in this "news" item is basically having a human version of a "rat thing" without the body? How much longet (theoretically) would it take to get a body to go with the computer?
Can I dream of trees growing T-bone steaks in my back yard too?
Overactive imaginations have their places, but "news" pages are not one of them.
When the prosecution of Kevin Mitnick filed papers that were supposed to be "confidential", didn't they raise holy hell and accuse the defense of "leaking" confidential (that the DoJ made public) documents?
Keep an eye on this one, could be the beginning of another "big brother" trick.
Oh no, look out, the end is near, the ever omnippotent "they" are taking over "our" music... http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=000114832908 976&rtmo=quuxpKL9&atmo=99999999&pg=/et/00/ 1/23/cnemi23.html
Yes, the story is from the British media so it must be perfect and without bias...
Time(AOL) is taking over EMI, probably with some of the imaginary money AOL used to take over Time (see http://www.theonion.com). Once "they" do that our ears will only be allowed to hear what "they" send to "us"!
2600 will be putting the word out on a National/International level.
There will be demonstrations against MPAA and related organizations soon.
The president of the MPAA lives and works here in the DC area.
We have not yet decided on how those of us in and around the DC area will participate, but if you are near DC you have an open invitation for whatever events we put together.
Perhaps we will be able to stream it live (whatever it happens to be), as we attempted (failed) to do on the June 4th Free Kevin demonstration in front of the Supreme Court.
If Kevin actually did anything to jepordise anybody's security, he should have been charged with doing that. He was not.
He was convicted for lying to people on the telephone. I am still lost on how that can cause any "damages".
A portion of the DoJ alleged "damages" was posessing Sun Solaris source code. DoJ valuation, $8 million. Purchase price (for source code) $100. Educational institutions: free.
Everything else from the DoJ in this case is equally dishonest.
He obtained a copy of the source code, but shared it with nobody.
BTW, you can get a copy of the source from Sun for $100 US, unless you are an educational institution, then it is free.
The DoJ valued this "theft" at close to $8 million. That is right, you can purchase it for $100, but if you have an "unauthorised" copy the value suddenly jumps to $8 mil.
Using a technique similar to ones used to defeat IR laser guns used by the police, i.e., to defeat the IR laser a coating that absorbes the laser frequency, but no others, is used to cover reflective vehicle serfaces and is not obvious to the casual viewer in normal light.
The DVD hack could be a coating, placed on the DVD by the user, that absorbs (or reflects) the portion of the spectrum that turns the built in coating into another color. It should work, so long as usable frequencies can get through to read the disk (yes, laser is supposed to be one color, but we all know that is not the case in real life).
The other option: DeCSS on the first play and then cut a new disk.
Yes, the subject line is sincere, the Katz stories are the "new" capitalism.
In the same tradition as Howard Stern, Steve Dahl, and every other media act that builds it's audience upon disagreeing with the sensable world (yes, even satirically), Katz has driven the audience into a frenzy of interest.
Those of us in the audience, you see, are not the "customers" we are the product. Our "eyeballs" are delivered to the advertisers and Jon's posts delever more of that than any other poster on/.
Just look at the Katz threads, they quickly go over 200 posts and I bet that the logs show a huge amount of repeat visits, all very valuable to the advertisers.
What is funny, really ROFLMAO funny, is that this is exactly what Jon pretends to preach against! There is nothing wrong with running a successful business, having a large market share, having a big influence on society, or anything else that Jon sees as a threat. All the while, he is doing exactly what he preaches against.
Hyprocracy? No. It is just good performing art and I applaude him.
I am not sure if you have discovered the "Del" key (please, do not confuse it with the "Any" key yet, or if you think you are the sacred keeper of Delete and the poor unwashed masses cannot figure out how to filter their own content.
In either case, everybody that has the capability of viewing 'net material also has the capability of ignoring the bits they find offensive. No, the callous ones are not drowning out the "acceptable to syurupy sweet Jon" good guys.
We have filtering and all sorts of other tools too (maybe that can make the next topic, right after another story about the blind guy). Don't forget, some of us unwashed masses even have brains and we can choose to skip a post if we find it offensive. Jon, free choice does exist, even after AOL/Time, they did not take away my means to scroll or delete or anything else.
If you read something that makes you cry because it hurt your feelings, then too bad.
Slashdot Mirror
Had a nice theory going, but one little problem. The government has not proven that these items belonging to Kevin were ever used in a crime.
Now, just because you do not want to keep the few rights you have left is no reason to advocate that the rights of others should be removed.
According to the blithering nonsense from both the judge and the persicution, if the files were "readable" there would not be a problem.
Thus, if one "hides" their encrypted information, using strgonagraphy,in a file or series of files, and those files appear to be readable, the government would have no reason to hold the files.
Be that as it may, I believe the government has no right to keep property just because they do not know what it is. The burden is on the sholders of the state to prove that the information is some sort of contraband. This is just another example of the government giving individual rights a wink before cracking the whip to show who is master.
BTW, "plans for taking down a system" should be covered under "free speech".
The movie is finshed, they just have not released it yet.
I am curious to see how it is. They did change it a little after some 2600 protesting.
I guess you are speaking to the others. I always post logged in and frequently metamoderate.
Oh yes, I completely agree. If I concentrated in that field I would do that myself (if I could convince the NT and Bug folks to go along with it). As it stands now, I do not even have time to keep an automated website up :(
A researcher has found some Echelon documents and made some conclusions that counter those put forth by the online community. Wired story here Please do not moderate down, this has relevance.
Checkout Bugtraq and NTBugtraq (if using MS OS.
OKOK, I could not spell my name without notes, but check the above places as well as Packetstorm (link at http://www.hackernews.com), yea a daily scan of hackernews is good too.
Listen to Off the Hook http://www.2600.com/offthehook/ check 2600 news daily, buy 2600 magazine too for a general look at some of the more out-of-the-way items that crop up.
Your local 2600 meeting (if there is one in your area) will probably have other professionals with the same concerns as you, with solutions.
So, this fiction in this "news" item is basically having a human version of a "rat thing" without the body? How much longet (theoretically) would it take to get a body to go with the computer?
Can I dream of trees growing T-bone steaks in my back yard too?
Overactive imaginations have their places, but "news" pages are not one of them.
Wired.com story here.
The article refrenced said they may be releasing free source code too. Take a look at it.
BTW, waited until this appeared:
2000-01-24 20:33:04 Sun to announce free Solaris 8 source (articles,sun) (rejected)
before posting this news.
FREE to all: Story here
Yet another rejected story...
When the prosecution of Kevin Mitnick filed papers that were supposed to be "confidential", didn't they raise holy hell and accuse the defense of "leaking" confidential (that the DoJ made public) documents?
Keep an eye on this one, could be the beginning of another "big brother" trick.
er.. well... if I link to the court documents am I in violation of the court order?
Oh no, look out, the end is near, the ever omnippotent "they" are taking over "our" music...8 976&rtmo=quuxpKL9&atmo=99999999&pg=/et/00/ 1/23/cnemi23.html
...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=00011483290
Yes, the story is from the British media so it must be perfect and without bias
Time(AOL) is taking over EMI, probably with some of the imaginary money AOL used to take over Time (see
http://www.theonion.com). Once "they" do that our ears will only be allowed to hear what "they" send to "us"!
(am I getting this hysterical style working yet?)
The official offices of MPA AND MPAA are located in California.
The lobbying offices are here in DC and Jack Valenti might as well live here (when he talks in the area he acts like he lives here too).
Reserching specific locations of their operations.
Other info at: http://www.mpaa.org
2600 will be putting the word out on a National/International level.
There will be demonstrations against MPAA and related organizations soon.
The president of the MPAA lives and works here in the DC area.
We have not yet decided on how those of us in and around the DC area will participate, but if you are near DC you have an open invitation for whatever events we put together.
Perhaps we will be able to stream it live (whatever it happens to be), as we attempted (failed) to do on the June 4th Free Kevin demonstration in front of the Supreme Court.
Thanks in advance
Guy Montag
If Kevin actually did anything to jepordise anybody's security, he should have been charged with doing that. He was not.
He was convicted for lying to people on the telephone. I am still lost on how that can cause any "damages".
A portion of the DoJ alleged "damages" was posessing Sun Solaris source code. DoJ valuation, $8 million. Purchase price (for source code) $100. Educational institutions: free.
Everything else from the DoJ in this case is equally dishonest.
He obtained a copy of the source code, but shared it with nobody.
BTW, you can get a copy of the source from Sun for $100 US, unless you are an educational institution, then it is free.
The DoJ valued this "theft" at close to $8 million. That is right, you can purchase it for $100, but if you have an "unauthorised" copy the value suddenly jumps to $8 mil.
Matt Drudge story with quotes here:
/. but I guess they are too busy posting patent cases to mess with this.
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm
Kevin is to be released Friday 21 Jan 00. He will be on 60 Min. (CBS TV, simulcast clear channel on WCBS AM New York) Sun. 23 Jan 00.
Story was submitted to
Using a technique similar to ones used to defeat IR laser guns used by the police, i.e., to defeat the IR laser a coating that absorbes the laser frequency, but no others, is used to cover reflective vehicle serfaces and is not obvious to the casual viewer in normal light.
The DVD hack could be a coating, placed on the DVD by the user, that absorbs (or reflects) the portion of the spectrum that turns the built in coating into another color. It should work, so long as usable frequencies can get through to read the disk (yes, laser is supposed to be one color, but we all know that is not the case in real life).
The other option: DeCSS on the first play and then cut a new disk.
Thought for food.
WMAL is a Washington, DC area AM talk radio station and ABC Radio affiliate.
630 AM and you can hear Rush Limbaugh, Matt Drudge and (I think) Art Bell on that station when in the land that common sense forgot.
Yes, the subject line is sincere, the Katz stories are the "new" capitalism.
/.
In the same tradition as Howard Stern, Steve Dahl, and every other media act that builds it's audience upon disagreeing with the sensable world (yes, even satirically), Katz has driven the audience into a frenzy of interest.
Those of us in the audience, you see, are not the "customers" we are the product. Our "eyeballs" are delivered to the advertisers and Jon's posts delever more of that than any other poster on
Just look at the Katz threads, they quickly go over 200 posts and I bet that the logs show a huge amount of repeat visits, all very valuable to the advertisers.
What is funny, really ROFLMAO funny, is that this is exactly what Jon pretends to preach against! There is nothing wrong with running a successful business, having a large market share, having a big influence on society, or anything else that Jon sees as a threat. All the while, he is doing exactly what he preaches against.
Hyprocracy? No. It is just good performing art and I applaude him.
That is a perfect quote. May I borrow it often?
I am not sure if you have discovered the "Del" key (please, do not confuse it with the "Any" key yet, or if you think you are the sacred keeper of Delete and the poor unwashed masses cannot figure out how to filter their own content.
In either case, everybody that has the capability of viewing 'net material also has the capability of ignoring the bits they find offensive. No, the callous ones are not drowning out the "acceptable to syurupy sweet Jon" good guys.
We have filtering and all sorts of other tools too (maybe that can make the next topic, right after another story about the blind guy). Don't forget, some of us unwashed masses even have brains and we can choose to skip a post if we find it offensive. Jon, free choice does exist, even after AOL/Time, they did not take away my means to scroll or delete or anything else.
If you read something that makes you cry because it hurt your feelings, then too bad.
Hey, newsflash "The Sky is STILL not Falling!!!"