That was what I had thought in general, except for the numerous math folks saying otherwise (no, not just my teachers back in grade school, math majors, etc).
Since the whole concept of zero was pretty new back then, well, that is another story...
Pretty wacky and innacurate 1984 analogy (all that I object to from post).
Thank goodness that we have multiple sources of information, freely available, so that one government can not pull the 1984 thing these days.
The Goldstein from 1984 was a fiction invented by the beurocracy, not a real foreign power. Competition with Goldstein was fiction too, so rea production was not required and a real decline in the quality of life worked out just fine in the book.
Hopefully, if the other things China has developed has not awoken this US administration into action, perhaps China efforts into manned spaceflight will awaken the next administration into reviving the US program. Not in fiction, in reality.
I am suprised that Hemos even used "Open Source" in the post. Yea, they are announcing that they will release the source code, but no telling if it will meet all of the criteria for "Open Source". Check http://www.opensource.org for more info.
The press release is ambigious about this, so maybe I am wrong. (But if I am wrong: where is the download page for the source code?)
First, where is the link to the "press release"? I posted a link to AltaVista's news area, has everything I was quoting.
It also said Altavista TO RELEASE. Ahem, that indicates that it is NOT released YET (that is what "to release" means, as in "going to release" as in sometime in the future).
I made no point about "OpenSource" at all, so how do you know if I missed it? I repeated what the article said, that AltaVist is "giving away" the source code. Yes, I know there is a difference, that is why I did not say "open source". Maybe you can e-mail Hemos about his misuse?
BTW, ZDNET has apparently pulled the story already (no, not slashdotted, "page not found" and headline removed from ZDNET). I do not know where anybody saw the AltaVista press release saying you must be an affiliate to get the source, but it is not showing up here live.altavista.com, so I am just going from the articles that I have working links to.
You guys MAY be right, but I have yet to see ANYTHING saying that AltaVista requires affiliation acceptance to get a copy of the source.
"The portal will begin giving away the source code for its search engine..."
Th above part says: they will give away source code.
Now for the AND part (that means they will be doing both things).
"...and will start paying sites that successfully refer people to the portal."
This part, with refrences to other parts of the article, is the part about who gets to be PAID. Noplace in the article does it say you have to be "worthy" in some way to get the source code.
My thought exactly as soon as I saw the post. 2010 device on the Russian spacecraft. Was never sure if he invented it or if he had heard about it and it sounded good for the plot.
Re:'Fraid not Thank You, pain relieved
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Actually, I zeroed in on "The MPA - along with the music industry, one of the world's largest cartels outside of Columbia -- has claimed in several legal actions that the kind of DVD-viewing software Johansen allegedly used was developed outside of the industry's monopoly, and is thus illegal. The organization particularly wants to suppress so-called reverse engineering and the public posting and sharing of DVD codes." and blasted right past the beginning. Thank you for relieving my pain and I can go back to my usual disagreeable self;-)
Ahem... MPA was in the proper context
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The MUSIC PUBLISHERS ASSOCIATION of the United States is what Jon was speaking of and he was very clear about it. As much as it pains me to side with Jon on ANYTHING, I must in this case.
There is another Reston, VA co. that really has perks! During the Superbowl, the owner had rented FedEx stadium (the one the Redskins play in, MD) the WHOLE THING, for all of his employees to watch the game and party in the skyboxes (or other party facilities). Also, the boss takes the whole company on a "spouse-free" cruise every year. I *think* it is Microstrategy.
Forgot the name of the company, but the rest of this may lend a clue to that. It was the one with a yellow screen and typewriter print, one of the ".com"s
They are a firm here in Reston, VA that did not have a commercial ready and wanted to drop out, but waited too long, so they just slapped that commercial together.
Much like this post, but much more pricey.
BTW, as I write this all of the DC area is playing bumper cars because nobody here knows how to drive on dry pavement, much less the several inches of snow and sleet we have now.
Interesting 1984 twist on commercial /.
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This post went up saying "costed" in both occurances, and now it says "cost" in both places, but no correction/retraction or anything else to indicate that the origional was different from the current version.
Perhaps by the time that I submit, all of the other, threaded, refrences to the goof will be removed from evidence too?
OK, out here in the real (dirt) world
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environmental cost is a fiction. the cost for those items was paid ("calculated" by looking at the invoices for the materials) when they were purchased including the sellers best guess for any required cleanup.
fuel cost is the purchase cost(this is not rocket science either)
future cost of something floating around Mars? none
future cost of stuff floating around earth? commercial projects purchase insurance for that and governments usually flu insurance free (essentially self insured) so the people that might run into the junk have accounted for that possibility beforehand in their craft
It was obviously a failed attempt to crack and read the Gig of encycephered files on Kevin Mitnick's computers before the appeals court forces their rightful return to Kevin;->
This is nothing like having some magic unopenable suitcase that may contain real money or some undetectable drug or undetectable explosive or anything remotely like that.
This is like having a very long book that you can not read. In no way are a bunch of characters "dangerous", even if they are plans for cracking into 7 year old computers, 7 year old credit card numbers or anything else that is printable.
It is exactly the same as if the data were in a book that YOU could not read.
First, are you speaking of the blank warrant that even the issuing judge said should not have been executed?
Second, If the feds can not show this is actual contraband of some kind then they should give it back.
This notion that the government can take any piece of property from anybody because it "may have been" or "may be" used in some unnamed crime or for some as yet to be determined "bad" purpose has to stop someplace.
Attitudes like this kept the German owned and operated ovens full during the Holocost. You know, "if the government person says so it must be so" attitude.
If they prove that those 0's and 1's are some sort of contraband, then yes, they can keep it. If not then they should give it back.
First off, there is no way that there is ANYTHING dangerous on that drive. Second, if they cannot even prove that the info is evidence then it should be returned.
If it cannot be proven to be contraband the government is supposed to return it. The big dumb question is, how could a bunch of possibly bits be contraband?
Before anybody jumps on the "Richo act" property grabbing theory, that is obviously unconstitutional too but the cops and judges just don't care.
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That was what I had thought in general, except for the numerous math folks saying otherwise (no, not just my teachers back in grade school, math majors, etc).
Since the whole concept of zero was pretty new back then, well, that is another story...
Does zero actually count as an even digit? I seem to recall being told numerous times that it is neither even nor odd.
Pretty wacky and innacurate 1984 analogy (all that I object to from post).
Thank goodness that we have multiple sources of information, freely available, so that one government can not pull the 1984 thing these days.
The Goldstein from 1984 was a fiction invented by the beurocracy, not a real foreign power. Competition with Goldstein was fiction too, so rea production was not required and a real decline in the quality of life worked out just fine in the book.
Hopefully, if the other things China has developed has not awoken this US administration into action, perhaps China efforts into manned spaceflight will awaken the next administration into reviving the US program. Not in fiction, in reality.
I am suprised that Hemos even used "Open Source" in the post. Yea, they are announcing that they will release the source code, but no telling if it will meet all of the criteria for "Open Source". Check http://www.opensource.org for more info.
The press release is ambigious about this, so maybe I am wrong. (But if I am wrong: where is the download page for the source code?)
First, where is the link to the "press release"? I posted a link to AltaVista's news area, has everything I was quoting.
It also said Altavista TO RELEASE. Ahem, that indicates that it is NOT released YET (that is what "to release" means, as in "going to release" as in sometime in the future).
Thank you for resolving my dilemma ;-)
Try LOOKING at the Altavista site? This article is apparently accurate enough for AltaVista to post themselves. (probably written for ZD by AV anyway)
I made no point about "OpenSource" at all, so how do you know if I missed it? I repeated what the article said, that AltaVist is "giving away" the source code. Yes, I know there is a difference, that is why I did not say "open source". Maybe you can e-mail Hemos about his misuse?
BTW, ZDNET has apparently pulled the story already (no, not slashdotted, "page not found" and headline removed from ZDNET). I do not know where anybody saw the AltaVista press release saying you must be an affiliate to get the source, but it is not showing up here live.altavista.com, so I am just going from the articles that I have working links to.
You guys MAY be right, but I have yet to see ANYTHING saying that AltaVista requires affiliation acceptance to get a copy of the source.
Can't you read? From the article refrenced:
...and will start paying sites that successfully refer people to the portal."
"The portal will begin giving away the source code for its search engine..."
Th above part says: they will give away source code.
Now for the AND part (that means they will be doing both things).
"
This part, with refrences to other parts of the article, is the part about who gets to be PAID. Noplace in the article does it say you have to be "worthy" in some way to get the source code.
And this tripe gets a score of 3?
My thought exactly as soon as I saw the post. 2010 device on the Russian spacecraft. Was never sure if he invented it or if he had heard about it and it sounded good for the plot.
May I be pained again now?
Actually, I zeroed in on "The MPA - along with the music industry, one of the world's largest cartels outside of ;-)
Columbia -- has claimed in several legal actions that the kind of DVD-viewing software
Johansen allegedly used was developed outside of the industry's monopoly, and is thus
illegal. The organization particularly wants to suppress so-called reverse engineering and the
public posting and sharing of DVD codes." and blasted right past the beginning. Thank you for relieving my pain and I can go back to my usual disagreeable self
The MUSIC PUBLISHERS ASSOCIATION of the United States is what Jon was speaking of and he was very clear about it. As much as it pains me to side with Jon on ANYTHING, I must in this case.
Yahoo has a "vote for your favorite" thangie with streaming copies of the commercials. http://promotions.yahoo.com/promotions/superspots/
There is another Reston, VA co. that really has perks! During the Superbowl, the owner had rented FedEx stadium (the one the Redskins play in, MD) the WHOLE THING, for all of his employees to watch the game and party in the skyboxes (or other party facilities). Also, the boss takes the whole company on a "spouse-free" cruise every year. I *think* it is Microstrategy.
Forgot the name of the company, but the rest of this may lend a clue to that. It was the one with a yellow screen and typewriter print, one of the ".com"s
They are a firm here in Reston, VA that did not have a commercial ready and wanted to drop out, but waited too long, so they just slapped that commercial together.
Much like this post, but much more pricey.
BTW, as I write this all of the DC area is playing bumper cars because nobody here knows how to drive on dry pavement, much less the several inches of snow and sleet we have now.
This post went up saying "costed" in both occurances, and now it says "cost" in both places, but no correction/retraction or anything else to indicate that the origional was different from the current version.
Perhaps by the time that I submit, all of the other, threaded, refrences to the goof will be removed from evidence too?
environmental cost is a fiction. the cost for those items was paid ("calculated" by looking at the invoices for the materials) when they were purchased including the sellers best guess for any required cleanup.
fuel cost is the purchase cost(this is not rocket science either)
future cost of something floating around Mars? none
future cost of stuff floating around earth? commercial projects purchase insurance for that and governments usually flu insurance free (essentially self insured) so the people that might run into the junk have accounted for that possibility beforehand in their craft
It was obviously a failed attempt to crack and read the Gig of encycephered files on Kevin Mitnick's computers before the appeals court forces their rightful return to Kevin ;->
This is nothing like having some magic unopenable suitcase that may contain real money or some undetectable drug or undetectable explosive or anything remotely like that.
This is like having a very long book that you can not read. In no way are a bunch of characters "dangerous", even if they are plans for cracking into 7 year old computers, 7 year old credit card numbers or anything else that is printable.
It is exactly the same as if the data were in a book that YOU could not read.
TH is finally the voice of reason.
First, are you speaking of the blank warrant that even the issuing judge said should not have been executed?
Second, If the feds can not show this is actual contraband of some kind then they should give it back.
This notion that the government can take any piece of property from anybody because it "may have been" or "may be" used in some unnamed crime or for some as yet to be determined "bad" purpose has to stop someplace.
Attitudes like this kept the German owned and operated ovens full during the Holocost. You know, "if the government person says so it must be so" attitude.
If they prove that those 0's and 1's are some sort of contraband, then yes, they can keep it. If not then they should give it back.
First off, there is no way that there is ANYTHING dangerous on that drive. Second, if they cannot even prove that the info is evidence then it should be returned.
If it cannot be proven to be contraband the government is supposed to return it. The big dumb question is, how could a bunch of possibly bits be contraband?
Before anybody jumps on the "Richo act" property grabbing theory, that is obviously unconstitutional too but the cops and judges just don't care.
Yes, that is possible and is covered frequently in the crypto and pgp forums on Usenet. Use your favorite archive to learn more.