We really need to keep people off planet, especially if we plan on ever creating any form of long range travel, or permanent bases/stations on other stellar bodies.
We really still do not fully grasp the adverse effects prolonged exposure to a lowered gravity environment poses on the human body.
I also would think it just means that I'm just one step closer to being able to go in the garage, hop into my little shuttle and take off to catch lunch on Mars.
I am glad to see that we (Slashdot) seemed important enough to the other third party guys to warrant a personal response. I can also understand Nader's position of not wanting to personally answer any more questionnaires, especially this close to Election Day. I am sure that he is a busy man at present. I cannot endorse any person who is going to be *my* employee if he cannot even answer questions which I have asked him. I surely would not get a job if when I was at an interview I told my prospective employer that I was far too busy to answer all his questions... Here is my prepared statement... and umm... Hire me. *grin*
I think the single biggest thing that people forget when dealing with the government of the USA is that these people are OUR employees. They are not granted some right by God to be in office. They are elected by us.
Go out and vote. Please. Vote for Mickey Mouse for all I care... just make your voice heard.
You should instead say you'll never match OpenBSD in its *default* configuration. OpenBSD has recently had a root exploit, though it was in a service that is *not* enabled by default.
In what way does Bastille differentiate between different types of installs? Does it prompt the users about services? Will it shut off my apache service if I plan on making this machine a web server?
What third party tools do you install/recommend to help with the hardening of the system? Tripwire? tcpserver?
Do you incorporate any form of checking when doing your install to ensure that the box has not already been compromised, such as checking for common trojans/backdoors?
Actually this is a quite common question among those in the know. Why *DO* the Distribution makers enable services by default that can potentially leave the system wide open to script kiddies? Especially with the droves of Windows users whom are trying Linux for the first time and are not always up on the latest sendmail/wu-ftpd/bind/whatever exploit of the week. Creating a more secure environment from the get-go should definitely be in the eyes of the ditro-makers. I applaud Bastille for their work in helping make the Internet a safer place to be.
I believe that the concept is not to attempt to replace OpenBSD, but rather to create a way to harden Linux. Most distributions leave themselves wide open for some script kiddie to root your box before you even get the chance to completely set it up. By creating a distribution that is more secure out of the box, it allows for a lessened chance of the machine being compromised prior to hardening. OpenBSD is not perfect. It *is* secure in its default install and is audited very rigorously. I applaud the OpenBSD team for their great pains in increasing security and awareness. I believe where Bastille really gets their merit is the situation where a person feels more comfortable using linux as opposed to a system that they may not be as familiar. I would feel more comfortable in securing a linux box than I would some other OS because I am more familiar with linux. This also solves a problem wherein a PHB decides that you're going to use that new lienucks thingy I have been hearing about. Not all decisions of what OS to use for a particular job are decided by someone who has a clue. Sometimes we just have to make best with the tools we are given. I think Bastille does an excellent job of doing this and making us feel a little better about the inherent insecurities of linux versus other systems.
Most of the agents in the FBI previously served in the military or police force. They are not geeks. When a site gets attacked and the FBI come in they set up and start auditing logs. If this guy's IP shows up all over the place, NO MATTER WHAT HE WAS DOING, he is going to become a suspect.
They would need the computer for forensic evidence gathering. The books probably just looked interesting (kernel *hacking*) to them and they thought that it could possibly be used as evidence. The agents were most likely there to take a statement and grab his stuff... no matter what was said. As far as they were concerned, they had probable cause to suspect him of wrongdoing and gathered evidence for evaluation. This *does* happen. This is not a case of the big bad FBI picking on someone who was innocent. This is a case of the FBI doing their *job* and investigating a suspect.
There is just too much damn noise on Slashdot anymore. I used to actually come here for news. It is getting to the point of becoming a collective of people who do not express their own thoughts and ideas... rather they instead use this once great page (Thanks Rob) to voice their idiotic crys for attention, or to just reiterate the same garbage. I am starting to think that Slashdot has become a collective of people who all think exactly alike, minus the trolls and the *very* few who can actually think for themselves. This is News for Nerds... not News for Nerds Who All Think Alike and Rant About Beowulf Clusters of Hot Grits Down a Petrified Natalie Portman's Pants.
I truly understand now that this really is not Rob's fault. No matter what he does there will be those that choose to attempt to exploit it and ruin it for other people. That is the nature of the world at large. Aside from ridding Slashdot of the AC or creating some form of censorship, it is truly beyond Rob's (or anyone else's) control.
I now ask everyone to please think before you post. Why do you insist on acting like an immature baby and incessantly attempt to ruin something which other people enjoy?
Well, quite frankly people don't take into account a few things. Benchmarks are not done *in* a network game, but instead on a machine running a demo which is just recorded play. Things such as lag an server overhead are not taken into consideration during most benchmarks. These do effect gameplay adversely. If I have a system that can do 200fps, it has more visual updates of the player and object motions. This makes things such as dropped frames and the "jumpyness" of lower fps games less apparent to the player as he is in the middle of a fragfest. This is especially true in the new crop of higher visual quality games. More frames == More updates. This has caused problems in some games. It allowed for the extra high jump in Q3A. It allows for people to move faster in many games. In Descent 2, one of the interesting things high framerate did was improve the accuracy of the "homing" system used for the homing/mega missle. If you were on a higher fps machine, the missles were more accurate due to the missle only being able to move at the beginning (or was it end) of each frame.
Higher framerates also tend to produce more accurate control for the player. If your framerate is higher, more precise control is available to you than to someone barely pushing 60fps. This can easily be seen if you take something such as glQuake and Quake 3. Play them side by side. I can guarantee you will get more accurancy in tageting in quake due to the higher framerate.
If you notice, the article is from Sharky Extreme. Sharky and the like are known for ONLY running the TOP end of all PC hardware. They do not represent the normal user, or evern the normal slashdotter.
The DHCP employed by @Home (at least Charter here in Upstate SC) *WILL* work on a Linux box, sorta. They *assign* a hostname only to a machine. The machine then connects to their network (remember them changing the computer name to your hostname? there's a reason for it.) To get Linux to grab an IP:
Install samba. Set it up with the computer name being your @home hostname. The workgroup is @home. Start DHCP client. Voila!
Many people have posted that they feel Dialpad has done an injustice by sending out unsolicited e-mail twice. I was unaware that other people were getting this apology. When I had recieved the newsletter, I sent one of my usual "I do not appreciate spam, remove me from any lists you have and do not contact me again" e-mails off to Dialpad. A week later, I got this as a response. I was under the impression that I was special... guess I was wrong.
Seeing the popularity of projects such as distributed.net's or Seti@Home just goes to show that distributed computing is definitely "in".
I have just one question about this? How well would it work with single processes or is it still limited by the same problems most parallel processing and multi-processing schemes encounter from data dependency?
If someone has found a way to take a single application (that is parallel processing dumb) and get it to run across multiple machines, well, they could be in for some serious cash coming their way.
Concerning MILO, were you trying to do it from SRM or from the ARC? (AlphaBIOS on later machines)... It is much much easier to get it to boot from the ARC. I have installed it on a multia, an Alphastation 233, an Alphaserver 300, an Alphaserver 4100, and even got to play with it for about 3 days on a new GS140 (8-way goodness).
I totally agree with you about support for platforms other than Intel. Most people have little to no experience with any other platform from the Intel norm, which makes trying to get help with a problem on an Alpha (or Sparc or MIPS or...) a total pain in the ass. Much of the documentation is outdated on these platforms.
However, the truth of the matter in the case of the Sparc version of RedHat is that I am sure it probably didn't sell well, if at all. Most businesses with Sparcs would probably run Solaris on them. I would guess that most of the Sparc Linux users are individuals who either are using Linux on Sparc workstations at work, or are using it on Sparcs that they own and run at home. The number of people running a Sparc in their house is significantly lower than people running PPC or Alpha, and is definitely miniscule in comparison to the number of x86 users.
RedHat is *not* Linux... true... but many people see RedHat as the representation of Linux, especially the PHBs. When they see something like this happening with RedHat, they assume that it is true for all Linux. That is where this is truly a tragedy for the community. RedHat is the leading distribution (usage-wise, I'm not wanting to start a distro flame war) of Linux. Until that changes, RedHat *is* Linux is the eyes of most of the public (that even know what Linux is).
*cough* I think we're talking *real* graphics here... not the latest first person shooter. Maybe the machines the developers use when *making* that new cool FPS. I do some intensive graphics work on my SMP system. I run a 3DLabs Oxygen GMX. Why? A just couldn't cut it. Many of the current batch of 3D gamer cards are designed for exactly that... 3D games. All of the "new" features these cards are implementing are ones that have been in professional graphics cards for years.
A GeForce 2 Ultra will not make a celeron 300 run like a T-Bird 1GHz. I'm sorry. It won't. All of these great gaming cards are basically made under the assumption that if you're going to spend $300 on a video card, that you probably will have a good processor and won't be running a $30 chip in your system.
This *has* been around for quite some time. It generally is used for 3D modeling where creating a simple, one-piece model would be much easier and cheaper to produce this way than to employ more traditional model making facilities. I think maybe this could be used to make some very interesting *solid* objects very easily.
Hopefully, one day soon it will become a little bit more advanced. We're still quite far from generating objects from a nice pool of "garbage matter" such as the Star Trek replication technology.
I wouldn't mind getting one of these things and making a nice large (say 30 feet tall) Tux model to display. Now wouldn't *that* be a crazy Christmas present for Linus.;p
If you notice it is a guy who is working on the *kernel* for linux... plus he works for DEC^H^H^HCompaq... so I am sure he gets to play with all the cool toys they have there.
by the way... Alphas don't do much in the way of distributed.net keyrates. I ran d.net on an 8-way GS-140. It wasn't impressive at all. The quad p2-400 Xeon blew it away.
You've apprently never had to run a server with a BIG Oracle database or just about any other heavily hit service which eats CPUs for breakfast. Yes, I admit the ignorant trolls about Beowulf's are annoying... but parallel processing has *many* uses (as far as SMP is concerned.)
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This is about Hurd, not Linux.
Guinness is spelled with 2 NN
;p
Heh... we always call it "breakfast in a can".
This makes for a sad sad day, as Guinness(doesn't suck) is the only beer that I actually buy. Oh well, they aren't getting my dollar anymore.
Fight for what you believe in... don't give money to corporations whom do things you disapprove of...
Quite frankly it is getting a bit crowded here. ;p
We really need to keep people off planet, especially if we plan on ever creating any form of long range travel, or permanent bases/stations on other stellar bodies.
We really still do not fully grasp the adverse effects prolonged exposure to a lowered gravity environment poses on the human body.
I also would think it just means that I'm just one step closer to being able to go in the garage, hop into my little shuttle and take off to catch lunch on Mars.
I am glad to see that we (Slashdot) seemed important enough to the other third party guys to warrant a personal response. I can also understand Nader's position of not wanting to personally answer any more questionnaires, especially this close to Election Day. I am sure that he is a busy man at present. I cannot endorse any person who is going to be *my* employee if he cannot even answer questions which I have asked him. I surely would not get a job if when I was at an interview I told my prospective employer that I was far too busy to answer all his questions... Here is my prepared statement... and umm... Hire me. *grin*
I think the single biggest thing that people forget when dealing with the government of the USA is that these people are OUR employees. They are not granted some right by God to be in office. They are elected by us.
Go out and vote. Please. Vote for Mickey Mouse for all I care... just make your voice heard.
You should instead say you'll never match OpenBSD in its *default* configuration. OpenBSD has recently had a root exploit, though it was in a service that is *not* enabled by default.
In what way does Bastille differentiate between different types of installs? Does it prompt the users about services? Will it shut off my apache service if I plan on making this machine a web server?
What third party tools do you install/recommend to help with the hardening of the system? Tripwire? tcpserver?
Do you incorporate any form of checking when doing your install to ensure that the box has not already been compromised, such as checking for common trojans/backdoors?
Actually this is a quite common question among those in the know. Why *DO* the Distribution makers enable services by default that can potentially leave the system wide open to script kiddies? Especially with the droves of Windows users whom are trying Linux for the first time and are not always up on the latest sendmail/wu-ftpd/bind/whatever exploit of the week. Creating a more secure environment from the get-go should definitely be in the eyes of the ditro-makers. I applaud Bastille for their work in helping make the Internet a safer place to be.
I believe that the concept is not to attempt to replace OpenBSD, but rather to create a way to harden Linux. Most distributions leave themselves wide open for some script kiddie to root your box before you even get the chance to completely set it up. By creating a distribution that is more secure out of the box, it allows for a lessened chance of the machine being compromised prior to hardening. OpenBSD is not perfect. It *is* secure in its default install and is audited very rigorously. I applaud the OpenBSD team for their great pains in increasing security and awareness. I believe where Bastille really gets their merit is the situation where a person feels more comfortable using linux as opposed to a system that they may not be as familiar. I would feel more comfortable in securing a linux box than I would some other OS because I am more familiar with linux. This also solves a problem wherein a PHB decides that you're going to use that new lienucks thingy I have been hearing about. Not all decisions of what OS to use for a particular job are decided by someone who has a clue. Sometimes we just have to make best with the tools we are given. I think Bastille does an excellent job of doing this and making us feel a little better about the inherent insecurities of linux versus other systems.
Most of the agents in the FBI previously served in the military or police force. They are not geeks. When a site gets attacked and the FBI come in they set up and start auditing logs. If this guy's IP shows up all over the place, NO MATTER WHAT HE WAS DOING, he is going to become a suspect.
They would need the computer for forensic evidence gathering. The books probably just looked interesting (kernel *hacking*) to them and they thought that it could possibly be used as evidence. The agents were most likely there to take a statement and grab his stuff... no matter what was said. As far as they were concerned, they had probable cause to suspect him of wrongdoing and gathered evidence for evaluation. This *does* happen. This is not a case of the big bad FBI picking on someone who was innocent. This is a case of the FBI doing their *job* and investigating a suspect.
There is just too much damn noise on Slashdot anymore. I used to actually come here for news. It is getting to the point of becoming a collective of people who do not express their own thoughts and ideas... rather they instead use this once great page (Thanks Rob) to voice their idiotic crys for attention, or to just reiterate the same garbage. I am starting to think that Slashdot has become a collective of people who all think exactly alike, minus the trolls and the *very* few who can actually think for themselves. This is News for Nerds... not News for Nerds Who All Think Alike and Rant About Beowulf Clusters of Hot Grits Down a Petrified Natalie Portman's Pants.
I truly understand now that this really is not Rob's fault. No matter what he does there will be those that choose to attempt to exploit it and ruin it for other people. That is the nature of the world at large. Aside from ridding Slashdot of the AC or creating some form of censorship, it is truly beyond Rob's (or anyone else's) control.
I now ask everyone to please think before you post. Why do you insist on acting like an immature baby and incessantly attempt to ruin something which other people enjoy?
Well, quite frankly people don't take into account a few things. Benchmarks are not done *in* a network game, but instead on a machine running a demo which is just recorded play. Things such as lag an server overhead are not taken into consideration during most benchmarks. These do effect gameplay adversely. If I have a system that can do 200fps, it has more visual updates of the player and object motions. This makes things such as dropped frames and the "jumpyness" of lower fps games less apparent to the player as he is in the middle of a fragfest. This is especially true in the new crop of higher visual quality games. More frames == More updates. This has caused problems in some games. It allowed for the extra high jump in Q3A. It allows for people to move faster in many games. In Descent 2, one of the interesting things high framerate did was improve the accuracy of the "homing" system used for the homing/mega missle. If you were on a higher fps machine, the missles were more accurate due to the missle only being able to move at the beginning (or was it end) of each frame.
Higher framerates also tend to produce more accurate control for the player. If your framerate is higher, more precise control is available to you than to someone barely pushing 60fps. This can easily be seen if you take something such as glQuake and Quake 3. Play them side by side. I can guarantee you will get more accurancy in tageting in quake due to the higher framerate.
If you notice, the article is from Sharky Extreme. Sharky and the like are known for ONLY running the TOP end of all PC hardware. They do not represent the normal user, or evern the normal slashdotter.
*COUGH*
Wine Is Not an Emulator
*grin*
/opt is for software packages that are self-contained. Try *reading* FHS before complaining.
The DHCP employed by @Home (at least Charter here in Upstate SC) *WILL* work on a Linux box, sorta. They *assign* a hostname only to a machine. The machine then connects to their network (remember them changing the computer name to your hostname? there's a reason for it.) To get Linux to grab an IP:
Install samba. Set it up with the computer name being your @home hostname. The workgroup is @home. Start DHCP client. Voila!
You may now remove samba.
Many people have posted that they feel Dialpad has done an injustice by sending out unsolicited e-mail twice. I was unaware that other people were getting this apology. When I had recieved the newsletter, I sent one of my usual "I do not appreciate spam, remove me from any lists you have and do not contact me again" e-mails off to Dialpad. A week later, I got this as a response. I was under the impression that I was special... guess I was wrong.
/me goes off to kill himself
;p
Seeing the popularity of projects such as distributed.net's or Seti@Home just goes to show that distributed computing is definitely "in".
I have just one question about this? How well would it work with single processes or is it still limited by the same problems most parallel processing and multi-processing schemes encounter from data dependency?
If someone has found a way to take a single application (that is parallel processing dumb) and get it to run across multiple machines, well, they could be in for some serious cash coming their way.
Vixie wrote a version of cron that is very popular
Concerning MILO, were you trying to do it from SRM or from the ARC? (AlphaBIOS on later machines)... It is much much easier to get it to boot from the ARC. I have installed it on a multia, an Alphastation 233, an Alphaserver 300, an Alphaserver 4100, and even got to play with it for about 3 days on a new GS140 (8-way goodness).
I totally agree with you about support for platforms other than Intel. Most people have little to no experience with any other platform from the Intel norm, which makes trying to get help with a problem on an Alpha (or Sparc or MIPS or...) a total pain in the ass. Much of the documentation is outdated on these platforms.
However, the truth of the matter in the case of the Sparc version of RedHat is that I am sure it probably didn't sell well, if at all. Most businesses with Sparcs would probably run Solaris on them. I would guess that most of the Sparc Linux users are individuals who either are using Linux on Sparc workstations at work, or are using it on Sparcs that they own and run at home. The number of people running a Sparc in their house is significantly lower than people running PPC or Alpha, and is definitely miniscule in comparison to the number of x86 users.
RedHat is *not* Linux... true... but many people see RedHat as the representation of Linux, especially the PHBs. When they see something like this happening with RedHat, they assume that it is true for all Linux. That is where this is truly a tragedy for the community. RedHat is the leading distribution (usage-wise, I'm not wanting to start a distro flame war) of Linux. Until that changes, RedHat *is* Linux is the eyes of most of the public (that even know what Linux is).
My 2 x 10^-2
*cough* I think we're talking *real* graphics here... not the latest first person shooter. Maybe the machines the developers use when *making* that new cool FPS. I do some intensive graphics work on my SMP system. I run a 3DLabs Oxygen GMX. Why? A just couldn't cut it. Many of the current batch of 3D gamer cards are designed for exactly that... 3D games. All of the "new" features these cards are implementing are ones that have been in professional graphics cards for years.
A GeForce 2 Ultra will not make a celeron 300 run like a T-Bird 1GHz. I'm sorry. It won't. All of these great gaming cards are basically made under the assumption that if you're going to spend $300 on a video card, that you probably will have a good processor and won't be running a $30 chip in your system.
This *has* been around for quite some time. It generally is used for 3D modeling where creating a simple, one-piece model would be much easier and cheaper to produce this way than to employ more traditional model making facilities. I think maybe this could be used to make some very interesting *solid* objects very easily.
;p
Hopefully, one day soon it will become a little bit more advanced. We're still quite far from generating objects from a nice pool of "garbage matter" such as the Star Trek replication technology.
I wouldn't mind getting one of these things and making a nice large (say 30 feet tall) Tux model to display. Now wouldn't *that* be a crazy Christmas present for Linus.
If you notice it is a guy who is working on the *kernel* for linux... plus he works for DEC^H^H^HCompaq... so I am sure he gets to play with all the cool toys they have there.
by the way... Alphas don't do much in the way of distributed.net keyrates. I ran d.net on an 8-way GS-140. It wasn't impressive at all. The quad p2-400 Xeon blew it away.
You've apprently never had to run a server with a BIG Oracle database or just about any other heavily hit service which eats CPUs for breakfast. Yes, I admit the ignorant trolls about Beowulf's are annoying... but parallel processing has *many* uses (as far as SMP is concerned.)