I fail to see how cheap deals on NT could be cost-effective for universities and schools. There would need to be free or cheap hardware with the software for it to be even considered as competition with *BSD or Linux, and I bet the likes of Sun to mega-discounts for educational establishments.
Why buy a quad PIII Xeon with 512MB RAM as a server when you could have a much more inexpensive box (or boxes) running a unix giving equivalent performance and much more functionality?
I was introduced to UNIX at uni, (Solaris/SunOS) and it was as if my prayers had been answered! An operating system that does what you'd expect one to be able to do, in a simple, clear logical way. I was going to buy a PC with NeXTStep on it but then Linux came along....
Why should the world take a gigantic backwards step to NT?
Why pay $$$ for something when you can get something free that's better?
Rexx is dreadful, as are most scripting languages. In general, they have ad-hoc, inconsistent sytax, second-guess you all the time and are generally kludges of the highest order.
This is not merely a criticism of Rexx, but all shell scripting languages. I'd sooner wheel out my c compiler and write some proper code.
As for anything interactive, you just can't beat FORTH.
The Jehovas Witnesses are Creationists plain and simple (with the emphasis on the simple).
I knew one who stood next to two nuclear reactors and denounced all of the physics upon which those reactors worked. They paid his wages, lit his house etc.
This morning in the breakfast queue at work I was called "whiz" (as in computer) by one of the older (ie about the same age as my mother) women who told everyine about how wonderful I am with computers. All I did was scan in a couple of pages and put them on a floppy disk. I said that I wished that girls (women really) of my age were impressed with that sort of thing. The young lady on the check-out laughed.
I'm 24 and haven't had a girlfriend now for 2 years and 4 months.... Sometimes C and C++ just aren't enough.
One guy I know hasn't ever had a girlfriend and he's just turned 27.
Compaq, realising that it can not market Alpha servers to the ignorant Great Unwashed People in Suits, decides to give up on Alpha. Everyone wants NT anyway, and they have agood business selling x86 machines, IA64 is coming out sometime, even if Alpha is 5+ years ahead but they don't have to pay for Merced's development, so they (Compaq) pull support for developing NT on Alpha and quietly junk the architecture.
That makes good business sense in the short term for Compaq, and Microsoft too because it's one less processor to develop for. If there's only one architecture in the market place (Intel) who needs cross-platform portability (in the eyes of the Great Unwashed)?
Never mind, at least Sun are still plodding on with their stuff...
You mark my words, in a few month's time you won't be able to buy a new Alpha for love nor money.
..or so it says in the article. I thought Athlon was a direct competitor to the PIII, being up to 40% faster at floating-point and 8% faster at integer?
What are these people saying? I thought Athlon was soon going to be 750MHz and faster?
Whatever happened to LISA? It was a proposal to build a space-based zero-drag iterferometer for observing gravitational waves (eg colliding neutron stars) that would follow the Earth by orbiting at one of the La Grange points in the Earth's orbit...
" I'd rather not risk having an explosive charge sitting next to my joy department. "
Lucky you getting joy from your department. I'm an evolutionary dead-end and would like to donate mine to medical science, or someone who needs a new one.
"(although it'll be a while before WINE performance becomes acceptable)."
Well, on my very humble P100 (64MB RAM, 512k cache) WINE appears to run some Windows software faster, or at least as fast as, Win 3.1, and it will run Win95/NT code too.
Because of Linux, I never "upgraded" to Win95, and I doubt I ever will.... ...WINE may give some software developers a bigger market in which to sell, who knows!
"Last time I checked, the latest study on cellular radiation showed that people who used cell phones were more imaginative and intellectual than those who did not."
All that means is that those who are "more imaginative" and "intellectual" earn more money than those who aren't and can afford (or require) mobile phones.
Statistics can be very dangerous. Apply them with caution.
90 % of the population is right-handed, and in days of yore, people drove in the middle of the road. When they passed someone coming in the other direction, 90% of peopl pulled in to the left to present their "sword hand" to the on-coming vehicle in case the occupants were enemies.
It was usually middle- and upper-class people who could afford coaches/horses etc in those days, so the French revolution changed things.
After and during the revolution, people drove and rode on the opposite side of the road (the right) to show their contempt for the middle and upper classes.
This practice was adopted throughout republican Europe, and spread to the New World.
Us Brits and other eccentrics stuck to driving on the left.
Must be a fruit break or something. All those links! They all point to the same Pokey story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and it doesn't even make sense and the Gimp will not find my PNG library and it's all going horribly WRONG and my Wankel engine has died.
... someone with a clue has built this sort of thing.
This will be really handy for exploring the likes of Mars, dismantling old nuclear reactors, and whoo knows what.
I wonder if anyone's simulated this type of "behaviour" on a (digital) computer? Imagine if such a program, responding to external stimulii could reprogram itself in response and "grow more circuits" ie learn.
Perhaps we have the first tentative steps to passing the Turing test?
Time for humans to sit back and let the machines do all the work.
I'm no expert of compilers and object code, but when a new architecture comes out, compilers and drivers etc. have to be rewritten to take advantage of the new hardware. In the case of multiple FPUs which all do slightly different jobs as in the case of the K7, the instructions have to be carefully scheduled in the right order to get the benefit of the available performance. If it can do additions, multiplications and vectors in parallel, putting three adds in at the same time followed by three multiplies then three vector ops will be slower than putting in an addition, multiplication and vector at the same time, three times over. That's my limited understanding of CPUs. I hope it's roughly correct.
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I fail to see how cheap deals on NT could be cost-effective for universities and schools. There would need to be free or cheap hardware with the software for it to be even considered as competition with *BSD or Linux, and I bet the likes of Sun to mega-discounts for educational establishments.
Why buy a quad PIII Xeon with 512MB RAM as a server when you could have a much more inexpensive box (or boxes) running a unix giving equivalent performance and much more functionality?
I was introduced to UNIX at uni, (Solaris/SunOS) and it was as if my prayers had been answered! An operating system that does what you'd expect one to be able to do, in a simple, clear logical way. I was going to buy a PC with NeXTStep on it but then Linux came along....
Why should the world take a gigantic backwards step to NT?
Why pay $$$ for something when you can get something free that's better?
Am I stupid or something? What am I missing?
Rexx is dreadful, as are most scripting languages. In general, they have ad-hoc, inconsistent sytax, second-guess you all the time and are generally kludges of the highest order.
This is not merely a criticism of Rexx, but all shell scripting languages. I'd sooner wheel out my c compiler and write some proper code.
As for anything interactive, you just can't beat FORTH.
The Jehovas Witnesses are Creationists plain and simple (with the emphasis on the simple).
I knew one who stood next to two nuclear reactors and denounced all of the physics upon which those reactors worked. They paid his wages, lit his house etc.
Fruit break?
assuming they're Christians, not Jews, Muslims, Seikhs (sp), Hindus, Bhuddists (sp), Confucians...
More anti-Jehova ammunition for those boring Sunday mornings.
I only wish they'd stop getting me out of the bath!
This morning in the breakfast queue at work I was called "whiz" (as in computer) by one of the older (ie about the same age as my mother) women who told everyine about how wonderful I am with computers. All I did was scan in a couple of pages and put them on a floppy disk. I said that I wished that girls (women really) of my age were impressed with that sort of thing. The young lady on the check-out laughed.
I'm 24 and haven't had a girlfriend now for 2 years and 4 months.... Sometimes C and C++ just aren't enough.
One guy I know hasn't ever had a girlfriend and he's just turned 27.
Poor sod.
Compaq, realising that it can not market Alpha servers to the ignorant Great Unwashed People in Suits, decides to give up on Alpha. Everyone wants NT anyway, and they have agood business selling x86 machines, IA64 is coming out sometime, even if Alpha is 5+ years ahead but they don't have to pay for Merced's development, so they (Compaq) pull support for developing NT on Alpha and quietly junk the architecture.
That makes good business sense in the short term for Compaq, and Microsoft too because it's one less processor to develop for. If there's only one architecture in the market place (Intel) who needs cross-platform portability (in the eyes of the Great Unwashed)?
Never mind, at least Sun are still plodding on with their stuff...
You mark my words, in a few month's time you won't be able to buy a new Alpha for love nor money.
..or so it says in the article. I thought Athlon was a direct competitor to the PIII, being up to 40% faster at floating-point and 8% faster at integer?
What are these people saying? I thought Athlon was soon going to be 750MHz and faster?
Good bye Celery.
Whatever happened to LISA?
It was a proposal to build a space-based zero-drag iterferometer for observing gravitational waves (eg colliding neutron stars) that would follow the Earth by orbiting at one of the La Grange points in the Earth's orbit...
" I'd rather not risk having an explosive charge sitting next to my joy
department. "
Lucky you getting joy from your department.
I'm an evolutionary dead-end and would like to donate mine to medical science, or someone who needs a new one.
"(although it'll be a while before WINE
performance becomes acceptable)."
Well, on my very humble P100 (64MB RAM, 512k cache) WINE appears to run some Windows software faster, or at least as fast as, Win 3.1, and it will run Win95/NT code too.
Because of Linux, I never "upgraded" to Win95, and I doubt I ever will....
...WINE may give some software developers a bigger market in which to sell, who knows!
"Last time I checked, the latest study on cellular radiation showed that people who used cell
phones were more imaginative and intellectual than those who did not."
All that means is that those who are "more imaginative" and "intellectual" earn more money than those who aren't and can afford (or require) mobile phones.
Statistics can be very dangerous. Apply them with caution.
Ok here goes..
90 % of the population is right-handed, and in days of yore, people drove in the middle of the road. When they passed someone coming in the other direction, 90% of peopl pulled in to the left to present their "sword hand" to the on-coming vehicle in case the occupants were enemies.
It was usually middle- and upper-class people who could afford coaches/horses etc in those days, so the French revolution changed things.
After and during the revolution, people drove and rode on the opposite side of the road (the right) to show their contempt for the middle and upper classes.
This practice was adopted throughout republican Europe, and spread to the New World.
Us Brits and other eccentrics stuck to driving on the left.
Hope that clears up a few things.
Lots of love,
Morbid
xxx
Why, pray tell, are you "hopeless?"
Must be a fruit break or something.
All those links! They all point to the same Pokey story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and it doesn't even make sense and the Gimp will not find my PNG library and it's all going horribly WRONG and my Wankel engine has died.
Bah.
Dude,
vi is too bloated.
I'm writing my own editor at the mo. It will have load, save, find/replace and block copy.
That'll do nicely.
And pigs will fly, or something....
PS don't drink and code...
bleh
mary jane......
from the earth, up through the trees,
I can hear her calling me
... someone with a clue has built this sort of thing.
This will be really handy for exploring the likes of Mars, dismantling old nuclear reactors, and whoo knows what.
I wonder if anyone's simulated this type of "behaviour" on a (digital) computer? Imagine if such a program, responding to external stimulii could reprogram itself in response and "grow more circuits" ie learn.
Perhaps we have the first tentative steps to passing the Turing test?
Time for humans to sit back and let the machines do all the work.
Well, maybe not.
Perl? What's wrong with FORTH?
;-)
cross-sections, though.
That's OK, I'll look them up in my books....
I downloaded it yesterday and compiled it. The damned thing wouldn't even run.
with this cheese cob I'll save the nation,
save my tummy from starvation
I'm no expert of compilers and object code, but when a new architecture comes out, compilers and drivers etc. have to be rewritten to take advantage of the new hardware. In the case of multiple FPUs which all do slightly different jobs as in the case of the K7, the instructions have to be carefully scheduled in the right order to get the benefit of the available performance. If it can do additions, multiplications and vectors in parallel, putting three adds in at the same time followed by three multiplies then three vector ops will be slower than putting in an addition, multiplication and vector at the same time, three times over.
That's my limited understanding of CPUs. I hope it's roughly correct.
I hope they built it behind 6-ft thick concrete walls and that the safey systems were fail-safe.
Yeah, right, and I have an anti-matter powered warp engine in my airing cupboard.
He should have bought an RX-7