The first thing you do when you've released something is work your ass off to get it right.
This isn't supposed to take 3 months like M$ sometimes seems to think it should.
The way programmers are pushed today the first x.0 is mostly more of a beta than a release.
Not a problem realy if you got more time at bugfixing but since the company that's behing them don't earn money unless it's out there we won't see a change before that changes.
// yendor
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It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
> What DJ article said was that "Gutnick had been involved in various questionable financial
> dealings." (mycareer.com.au) This is why often in the news people are "alleged" to have
> commited a crime.
Then we are back at the begining.
It's slander since there's no proven facts to base the accusations on.
When you use "alleged" it should still fall into lible.
Do the libel/slander only cover people and businesses or do it extend to products?
// yendor --
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
Shouldn't the lawsuite be about werther or not DJ where right or wrong about their allegations?
If you print lies it shouldn't be about who you want to read it.
For example: Racist papers that are only intended for KKK members. Should these be allowed to write anything they like and can come up with just as long as they only let rasists read?
Does this only bother me?
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
At least my wife thinks that our home is where old computers come to die.
But seriously, a thought that might be a little offtopic but still on the subject is the vast ammount of computers that isn't getting "trashed" due to linux and enthusiasts that makes use of "obsolete" hardware.
There isn't any numbers on this but I know from observation that most people into linux keep old computers (sometimes collects them) for minor services like a home built firewall/router.
The point I'm trying to make is that if it was a windows world you would have _a lot more_ computers getting "recycled".
The effects could be that few would write drivers for older hardware and hence the hardware gets older faster raising cost.
// yendor --
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
I read an article about a similar product that toshiba had developed some 2 years ago.
It was a standard battery wich contained an engine like the one in this article and methanol fuel.
You where supposed to get 10 times the normal battery time out of it and back then that would peobably have meant 10-20 hours.
The battery was a little larger than todays are but it's basicly the same thing.
Might not be a new thing but it's a new adaptation at least.
// yendor --
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
This feels like it would feed the myth about geeks being a lit like vampires....
Even though I myself don't get much sun when I hide away with my servers I usualy try to get some sun....
How long will it be before the surgeon general releases a warning about staying to long in the sun with your laptop:-)
Don't compute in the sun, you might get cancer.
Outlet power is cancer-safe!
I think you get the point.
// yendor --
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
They call it consolidation if the smaller are gobbled up by the larger ones.
This doesn't seem to be one of those.
Just hope AOL doesn't buy them!
// yendor
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> I wonder if somehow, something bad will eventually happen to Microsoft and cause it to shrink into underdog status,
> just like it happenned to IBM.
Wasn't it Microsoft DOS and Microsoft Windows that hapened to them?
Another large hole they dug for themselvs was the PS/2 machine with the horrible MCA.
IBM has actualy gotten a lot better from being a underdog and it might just be what Microsoft need to get stratight.
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
1984 should be about one or two wars away...
The current world climate isn't paranoid enough.
Perhaps privacy is as bad as it has always been, I've studied people through the "analog" trail everyone have.
It should be noted that I live in sweden where govement information are openly available.
What people don't know is that they are even less private that way.
You might worry about someone finding you creditcard number on the web. Take a look at some slips in your wallet.
Another thing that's a little frightening is to call some companys and claim to be someone else, most companys don't care because they want to be "customer friendly".
I think privacy is a thing you have earn through caution. Don't feed the papertrail!
// yendor --
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
I can only think of one thing:
"Soylent green is made of people"
Immortality is not for a rapidly reproducing species.// yendor --
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
Do I need to poit it out?
Netware itself is not the whale-kicking type of OS, Netware apps and drivers are.
Oh the long and lonely nights
in my server room
kicking on the tape-backup
screaming for some working drivers
never ever getting printouts
the way we want them to.
(Poem from the Netware 4.xx days)
// yendor --
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
I was thinking about terminal screenshots of the admin system.
The OS/390 I've dealt with was not the most intuitive system and I like to work through terminalmode.
The IBM page talks about webserver, LDAP and such. It would be nice to se something of the administration.
Most screenshots are about as informative as a teminalpage so why not!
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
Is it just me?
I'd like screenshots, there don't seem to be any in the article and it would be interesting to see is there are any changes or even a useable interface.
If anyone can point out some screenshots please post them!
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
> Are there any other OSes that have these properties?
Well, there are always AIX, HP-UX and the dreaded NetWare. I don't think they hurt your foot or stink, but they do feel heavy to work with.
People will no doubt tell me that they don't or that solaris fits into that category as well but I'm only basing this on my work experience and it's a highly personal opinion so they might be right from their perspective.
OS/390 is one of the worst things I've ever worked with. I can only say one thing, anything new is welcome on these machines.
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
The mir was not a very computerized station.
Most of it ran by the old reliable mechanics that don't care if you need to reboot your control system.
I read an article about the russian spaceprogram and one thing i remember is that they got most of their stuff up there by brute force.
Actualy kind of funny.
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
From my professional work I've learned that most ISP's don't work with "ethical guidelines" when it comes to privacy... the big companys might have them but it's mostly up to sysadmins and the techs to make their own rules.
I think that most people respect privacy but when it's a big company that claims to respect customers privacy it's realy bad.
AOL have clueless users but that donesn't mean that AOL are allowed to do what they like with them.
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
Should we let it die in peace?
I agree with the 3'd point and perhaps we shouldn't hype it like so many other things.
But still it's such a well known station that you have to see it's final demise.
If I remember correcly the station got damaged a few months back and that cut it's life short. To bad it's got to go because at least I'll miss having the station up there.// yendor --
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
This is not a speech.
I like zsh, mostly because it's the shell I started out with back in 93.
Now I mostly use bash since I've grown used to it from working with linux some 5 years but still I think that zsh hold a couple of points on bash.
One of the stronger points I'd say is that it's shipped in larger OS'es like Solaris and AIX and bash is a download, install, fiddle, pray that it works.
Still I don't think there's any problem with the type of shell you are using but instead you tend to get a problem when you access them from other systems (microsoft and apple) with say a telnet or ssh client.
You tend to ask yourself why the characterset never works, why you have to remap backspace and delete, why the colours aren't supported and worst of all. Why it changes from program to program.
It's easy to use a shell, so why have a flamewar over wich is best when we can put our energy into bothering microsoft into putting a telnet client worthy of the name in the Windows OS.// yendor --
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
Somebody neary put a gag on this item....:-) -- It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen. At least it'll get me through the night.
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The first thing you do when you've released something is work your ass off to get it right.
This isn't supposed to take 3 months like M$ sometimes seems to think it should.
The way programmers are pushed today the first x.0 is mostly more of a beta than a release.
Not a problem realy if you got more time at bugfixing but since the company that's behing them don't earn money unless it's out there we won't see a change before that changes.
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
> What DJ article said was that "Gutnick had been involved in various questionable financial
> dealings." (mycareer.com.au) This is why often in the news people are "alleged" to have
> commited a crime.
Then we are back at the begining.
It's slander since there's no proven facts to base the accusations on.
When you use "alleged" it should still fall into lible.
Do the libel/slander only cover people and businesses or do it extend to products?
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
This would make it illegal to make the very popular and common statement:
Windows sucks and bill gates is trying to kill off all other OS'es.
This should be enough by the defenition, although it's dificult to show loss of earnings.
Defamation have to have a couple of exceptions when it comes to public figures...
I have one word in plural: politicians.
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
Shouldn't the lawsuite be about werther or not DJ where right or wrong about their allegations?
If you print lies it shouldn't be about who you want to read it.
For example: Racist papers that are only intended for KKK members. Should these be allowed to write anything they like and can come up with just as long as they only let rasists read?
Does this only bother me?
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
> What did microsoft put in to Windows 95,98,ME,NT, etc.?
The only thing these have in common are the Windows Media Player..... so it's probably the windows media file format (whateveritsnamed)
// yendor
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It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
> Correction: Windows NT runs on many more old machines than Linux does.
Hello troll.
Show me NT on a 386DX-40 with 120 Mb disk and 24 Mb of memory that can actualy do something.
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
At least my wife thinks that our home is where old computers come to die.
But seriously, a thought that might be a little offtopic but still on the subject is the vast ammount of computers that isn't getting "trashed" due to linux and enthusiasts that makes use of "obsolete" hardware.
There isn't any numbers on this but I know from observation that most people into linux keep old computers (sometimes collects them) for minor services like a home built firewall/router.
The point I'm trying to make is that if it was a windows world you would have _a lot more_ computers getting "recycled".
The effects could be that few would write drivers for older hardware and hence the hardware gets older faster raising cost.
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
I read an article about a similar product that toshiba had developed some 2 years ago.
It was a standard battery wich contained an engine like the one in this article and methanol fuel.
You where supposed to get 10 times the normal battery time out of it and back then that would peobably have meant 10-20 hours.
The battery was a little larger than todays are but it's basicly the same thing.
Might not be a new thing but it's a new adaptation at least.
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
This feels like it would feed the myth about geeks being a lit like vampires....
:-)
Even though I myself don't get much sun when I hide away with my servers I usualy try to get some sun....
How long will it be before the surgeon general releases a warning about staying to long in the sun with your laptop
Don't compute in the sun, you might get cancer.
Outlet power is cancer-safe!
I think you get the point.
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
They call it consolidation if the smaller are gobbled up by the larger ones.
This doesn't seem to be one of those.
Just hope AOL doesn't buy them!
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
> I wonder if somehow, something bad will eventually happen to Microsoft and cause it to shrink into underdog status,
> just like it happenned to IBM.
Wasn't it Microsoft DOS and Microsoft Windows that hapened to them?
Another large hole they dug for themselvs was the PS/2 machine with the horrible MCA.
IBM has actualy gotten a lot better from being a underdog and it might just be what Microsoft need to get stratight.
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
1984 should be about one or two wars away...
The current world climate isn't paranoid enough.
Perhaps privacy is as bad as it has always been, I've studied people through the "analog" trail everyone have.
It should be noted that I live in sweden where govement information are openly available.
What people don't know is that they are even less private that way.
You might worry about someone finding you creditcard number on the web. Take a look at some slips in your wallet.
Another thing that's a little frightening is to call some companys and claim to be someone else, most companys don't care because they want to be "customer friendly".
I think privacy is a thing you have earn through caution. Don't feed the papertrail!
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
Touché
:-)
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
I can only think of one thing: "Soylent green is made of people" Immortality is not for a rapidly reproducing species. // yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
> "Certainly not for apps though."
Do I need to poit it out?
Netware itself is not the whale-kicking type of OS, Netware apps and drivers are.
Oh the long and lonely nights
in my server room
kicking on the tape-backup
screaming for some working drivers
never ever getting printouts
the way we want them to.
(Poem from the Netware 4.xx days)
// yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
Please do't use the 3 letter word :-)
// yendor
I didn't want to start a flamewar and SCO tends to be good fuel for some reason.
Last time I used a SCO it rebooted and recompiled the kernel worse than a windows 95 but that was an old version.
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
I was thinking about terminal screenshots of the admin system.
// yendor
The OS/390 I've dealt with was not the most intuitive system and I like to work through terminalmode.
The IBM page talks about webserver, LDAP and such. It would be nice to se something of the administration.
Most screenshots are about as informative as a teminalpage so why not!
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
Is it just me?
// yendor
I'd like screenshots, there don't seem to be any in the article and it would be interesting to see is there are any changes or even a useable interface.
If anyone can point out some screenshots please post them!
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
> Are there any other OSes that have these properties?
// yendor
Well, there are always AIX, HP-UX and the dreaded NetWare. I don't think they hurt your foot or stink, but they do feel heavy to work with.
People will no doubt tell me that they don't or that solaris fits into that category as well but I'm only basing this on my work experience and it's a highly personal opinion so they might be right from their perspective.
OS/390 is one of the worst things I've ever worked with. I can only say one thing, anything new is welcome on these machines.
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
The mir was not a very computerized station.
// yendor
Most of it ran by the old reliable mechanics that don't care if you need to reboot your control system.
I read an article about the russian spaceprogram and one thing i remember is that they got most of their stuff up there by brute force.
Actualy kind of funny.
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
From my professional work I've learned that most ISP's don't work with "ethical guidelines" when it comes to privacy... the big companys might have them but it's mostly up to sysadmins and the techs to make their own rules.
// yendor
I think that most people respect privacy but when it's a big company that claims to respect customers privacy it's realy bad.
AOL have clueless users but that donesn't mean that AOL are allowed to do what they like with them.
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
Should we let it die in peace? I agree with the 3'd point and perhaps we shouldn't hype it like so many other things. But still it's such a well known station that you have to see it's final demise. If I remember correcly the station got damaged a few months back and that cut it's life short. To bad it's got to go because at least I'll miss having the station up there. // yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
This is not a speech. I like zsh, mostly because it's the shell I started out with back in 93. Now I mostly use bash since I've grown used to it from working with linux some 5 years but still I think that zsh hold a couple of points on bash. One of the stronger points I'd say is that it's shipped in larger OS'es like Solaris and AIX and bash is a download, install, fiddle, pray that it works. Still I don't think there's any problem with the type of shell you are using but instead you tend to get a problem when you access them from other systems (microsoft and apple) with say a telnet or ssh client. You tend to ask yourself why the characterset never works, why you have to remap backspace and delete, why the colours aren't supported and worst of all. Why it changes from program to program. It's easy to use a shell, so why have a flamewar over wich is best when we can put our energy into bothering microsoft into putting a telnet client worthy of the name in the Windows OS. // yendor
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
Somebody neary put a gag on this item.... :-)
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
At least it'll get me through the night.
It's close to an extra for the Ericsson T18 (GSM)
--
It could be coffe.... or it could just be some warm brown liquid containing lots of caffeen.
At least it'll get me through the night.