Sure, the users may have to prove they own the music, but does MP3.com have a CD for every MP3 in their database?
Yes, they do. They have actually gone out and purchased every CD that is available for their Beam-It service. They have hired people to rip the CDs, which they do almost 24 hours a day. So you might say that the record companies are actually getting a bonus, since MP3 has to buy the albums, as well as the end-user.
Oh, come on, it's not a movement, it's a bunch of people who want free music. And no, he's not a poor starving artist, but he's someone who's worked hard and put his stuff out into the world as a privilege, not a right, with the understanding that it's on his terms. He has every right to enforce those terms, as he created it and he didn't have to release it in the first place.
What does "wanting free music" have to do with MP3.com? The only "free music" they have on their site is the stuff that artists are intentionally letting people listen to for free. All the stuff on my.mp3.com you have to prove you own the CD FIRST.
Sure, you could borrow a friend's CD to feed it, but if you could do that, you could make a personal copy almost as easily.
I appreciate what Tim is doing, trying to bring his position to bear in this matter. And I certainly hope that he and Jeff are able to work out a situation where Amazon can give assurances to the little guys, while protecting themselves from the big guys.
As good as these talks are to this particular instance, they are just a band-aid to the greater problem, which is the US Patent Office's general cluelessness in dealing with software and new technology patents. It seems that any real reform has to be done on that level, or else the "worst case" that Tim talks about -- the big tech companies who try to use patents to crush smaller companies -- will happen, it's only a matter of time.
BTW: Say it's not so! Say Tim isn't one of those people who talk on their cell phones in the middle of restaurants!
And, most importantly, what kind of moron game developer would have a single command that would erase the entire game? Sheesh!
Shades of Dilbert.
"Well, so far, all it does is erase the game on your hard drive...and if you're hooked up to the Internet, it erases all the copies of the game on the Internet...and if you have a modem, it dials up your friends and erases their games, too. And if you have a sound card, it swears at you."
You'll have to forgive Chris Carter for the computer-based story lines because this last one was co-written by William Gibson, as was the one about "uploading consciousness to the Internet". He's never been one to let reality get in the way of his version of cyberspace. I really like William Gibson, but it's hard not to cringe at some of the unrealistic footage.
One thing about William Gibson (and something that made him a very popular sci-fi writer) was that he didn't know anything about computers when he wrote Neuromancer, so he didn't recognize any limitations. Which was fine for a world "set sometime in a cyberpunk future", but is less fine for a "here and now" X-Files episode.
He should know more about "modern day" computers and their limitations before he starts to write a "modern day" television episode about computers.
Since I am from Canada, I can understand many American "Beer" drinkers' aversions to drinking Guinness. American beer is very week and almost clear. Clear beer? It just isn't right. You should come up to eastern Canada and try some of our micro-brewed beers. Beers with 6 or 7 % alcohol content, not that wussy 4%.
You haven't had good American beer. Ignore most Macrobrews; about the only thing decent there is Pete's Wicked, Sam Adams, or Henry Weinhards. American microbrews are usually pretty good, though, Rogue Ale up in Oregon makes some good stuff, as do the people down in San Diego who make Arrogant Bastard Ale.
Of course, Americans aren't the only ones who make crappy Macrobrewed beer. In Mexico, Corona and Corona Light (!) come to mind. Corona Light actually looks like white grape juice it's so light. Peroni from Italy pretty well sucks, and everyone knows Fosters is Australian for Millah Lite.
And while I'm raving, how about that American "coffee". It's also virtually clear - kind of an amber color. You can even see the bottom of your cup! What's with that?
A coffee shop near our home makes a "Piledriver", which has 6 shots of espresso. Not only can't you see the bottom of your cup, you need a spoon (and afterwards, a complete neurological physical) when you drink it.
Man (or Woman, or Thing) of the Year is generally given to the most influential person of the past year, positive or negative. Now, Bezos may be a hyper freak, but he has built up Amazon from the ground up into the Internet's first real Super Store, and proved to most of the brick-and-mortar types that e-commerce could really work. E-commerce, and hence Amazon and Bezos, have really revolutionized the way people think of doing business.
And so what if he's losing money... So was AOHell all those years, and now they're raking in the money hand over fist. As Garry Trudeau once said, "If you're not losing a lot of money, you're not being aggressive enough."
On a personal note, I know it's not what a lot of people here want to hear, but I almost won't shop at any place but Amazon. I've had really bad experiences with Barnes & Noble in the past, and while I haven't given Borders.com much of a try yet, they don't have the selection and variety of Amazon. So far I've been completely satisfied with Amazon's prices and customer service.
I did just about all my holiday shopping at Amazon, and encouraged all my friends/family to do the same. Why? Because they have the best selection and customer service of any e-business I've ever ordered from (including Barnes & Noble...don't even talk to me about that fiasco), and I don't have to go to the mall!
The patent garbage will get itself straightened out eventually; I have more important things to think about 12 days before Christmas (like making sure my nephew gets his Dragon Ball Z action figures on time!).
I've played FPS's (Wolf3d, Doom x, Quake x) for over five years now. So when I recently started playing Paintball, I would have an edge; after all, mastering rail shots via mouse, and circle strafing has to give me some advantage, right? Well, I did learn two things:
-Being able to hit people with a rail from across the field doesn't mean beans when you're actually holding a paintball gun; and
Since humans in general have removed themselves from the laws of Natural Selection, why would it be a problem for humans to improve their species themselves? If a child could be born with fewer physical defects, or less of a genetic tendency toward disease, that's all the better, IMHO.
Also, it's true that at first, this will be an option only available to the wealthy (or those who could get their insurance to pay for it) in industrialized countries. But as the technology improves, it should become cheaper and more widespread. That's the hope, anyway. Look at fertility technology...it's gotten to the point where even welfare mothers can have quintuplets (sigh), so I imagine that genetic technology would follow suit.
As with anything else, there is a possibility that a certain technology could be abused. But the potential good far outweighs the fears, IMHO.
I have it on good authority from someone who works in Juvenile Criminal Justice in Seattle that most of the rioters are known gang members, who are taking advantage of the chaos of the protests to sow a little mayhem and violence. In addition, law enforcement knows that these people are gang members. But how much of this fact has trickled down to the media? Lends credence to some conspiracy theorists, I think.
I found Dogma to be hilarious, but I don't know how Geek-oriented it was. It does show a great deal of challenge towards traditional Catholic dogma, which is an interest shared by, but not limited exclusively to, geeks.
I also didn't see quite the split personality that Katz described in the film, I thought the transitions between comic scenes and lessons of faith were very well done. All in all an excellent film, but not for the easily-offended.
Excellent, ssh with a less restrictive licensing is a very powerful tool for sysadmins.
At the risk of getting flamed, does anyone know if there is a Windows client program that will work with OpenSSH? All Matter-AntiMatter jokes aside, I like to be able to admin from as many different platforms as possible (flexibility) and currently use TeraTerm's SSH extensions. Is there a free (speech, beer, whatever) 'doze client that will work with OpenSSH?
If you listen to what the leaders really think, many of them have all but admitted that democracy is inevitable, but that the country should move slowly, rather than quickly like Russia.
I admit to not being blessed with Telepathy, so how does one go about doing this?:)
Well, yes. He did a great deal for the Westernization of China and opening China up economically and thus paving the way for slowly becoming more democratic.
That does not automatically follow. In fact, if you read his speeches, you can see that yes, he is all in favor of economic reform, but he wants nothing to do whatsoever with China becoming more democratic ("counter-revolutionary, Western-dependent bourgeois republic").
But Economic reform is a good thing; waiting for the secret police to break down your door isn't.
We have a long, sorry history of human rights abuses; we really shouldn't be lecturing other countries until we've perfected our *own* rights issues.
Human rights issues in any country will never be "perfected", but you're right, Americans should be working on their own human rights abuses, which include economically supporting governments which routinely, brutally suppress protests and calls for political reform (such as China).
Mr. Xiaoping Deng was the man who ordered the massacre of hundreds of unarmed protesters, and that's the man you point to for reform?
Americans' views of China are heavily influenced by the Tiananmen Square massacre, and I just can't see how someone who murders, and then vilifies political protesters was a very reform-minded individual.
This is great and everything, but I would kind of prefer that NEW games be ported. I've already become completely sick of HMM3. How about some Everquest?
I've had a chat with the folks at Verant (the people who produce Everquest) about a Linux port, and they said no way. There's just too much in there dependant on DirectX for them to be willing to port it. But they also said that they were in contact with some of the WINE folks about making it compatible with EQ, so you never know.
And as long as we're all giving wishlists, I'd like to see Linux versions of Alpha Centauri, Half Life, and Tribes. Especially Tribes.
Christians are just as free to share their views as anyone else. It in no way forces you to pay any attention but they DO have the right to express their views.
Of course they do; and I, similarly, have the right to tell them exactly where to stick their religious tracts. Fact is, the hard sell tends not to work when it comes to converting people. A pious, tolerant, and non-judgemental life speaks volumes, however.
And, I have had instances where Christians did try to force me to pay attention, in situations which crossed the line into harrassment.
As I said before you can't expect every Christian you know to have been automatically informed by the Christian Spy Network that 'This one has been tried and turned us down, leave him alone.'
No, but I suppose it is too much to ask that Christians don't proselytize. If I have questions, I'll come to you, otherwise you don't get anywhere by doing the hard sell.
More intelligent Christians will say something they hope will interest you in what they have to say, such as 'Didja know that Peter was able to pick up poison snakes, be bitten and not die?'.
Another Christian principle is to not be suprised when you reap what you sow.
And yet another Christian principle is to turn the other cheek, and I don't see a whole hell of a lot of that happening either.
So, the fact that he's been threatened means that he's above criticism?
From where in my message did you get that?! I never said he was above criticism, in fact, in other messages I said that he brought up a subject worthy of argument and debate. I just said that sending someone death threats tends to impact on their freedom to express their opinions.
I've snipped the rest of your message, because it's based on a false premise and is, therefore, false.
Sad but true. Although it is harder for real discussion to take place when folks like Jon Katz (returning to the original topic) seem to define an articulation of the traditional Christian moral position as "screaming."
Does the "traditional Christian moral position" include threatening someone's life? Because that's what I found most disturbing about the Singer argument. It's not because he was called a "monster" that causes him and his students to be under threat of physical violence. There are armed guards posted in his (unmarked) classroom, because people are threatening to kill him to get rid of his opinion once and for all.
People who foam at the mouth and call someone "monster" in order to attack the person, and not the idea, can be easily ignored. It is those people who threaten to kill you to silence your ideas who can't. And that limits everyone's freedom.
Hold your horses a bit, I'm a Southern Baptist and I don't know of anyone who thinks that the bible is 100% quite literally true. We believe that everything it says is in some way true, but not LITERALLY so.
You should pay a bit of attention to your religious leaders. The 1980 Southern Baptist Convention passed a resolution declaring that it was important "to carefully preserve the doctrinal integrity of our institutions"; at this Convention, they proclaimed the infallibility and inerrancy of the Bible. Leading this movement was ex-president of the SBC W.A. Criswell, author of Why I Preach That the Bible Is Literally True. (Also in 1980 SBC president Bailey Smith stated, "God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew." But that's neither here nor there.)
Sociologists Roger Finke and Rodney Stark, in their 1992 book, write "As recently as 1990, nearly two thirds of self-identified Southern Baptists...expressed firm agreement with the statement 'The Bible is the actual word of God and is to be taken literally, word for word' and rejected the alternative 'The Bible is the inspired word of God but not everything in it should be taken literally, word for word.'"
But how are you going to effectively judge what is best for you if you do not have all of the relevant information?
I, and many other non-Christians that I know, are well-versed with Christianity. Having grown up Christian, I've been to church more times than I can reasonably guess (though I estimate it's somewhere around 1,000), and have read the Bible, as well as other theological works, several times. After hearing all the evidence, having grown up with the works of St. Paul, Thomas Aquinas, and CS Lewis, I decided Christianity was not for me.
But apparently, this is difficult for some Christians to accept. Does this stop them from coming to my door, e-mailing me, and talking to me at work (co-worker) about converting to Christianity? Apparently not.
Fact is, a lot of non-Christians do have the "relevant information", and still get told the same old s---...
"You need to open your heart to Jesus." "If you don't believe the Bible is True, you're not reading it right." "Your life is so empty without The Lord, you just don't realize it!" "You're just a tool for Satan! Jesus can help you!" "There are no contradictions in the Bible! Anyone who says so just doesn't understand it."
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Sure, the users may have to prove they own the music, but does MP3.com have a CD for every MP3 in their database?
Yes, they do. They have actually gone out and purchased every CD that is available for their Beam-It service. They have hired people to rip the CDs, which they do almost 24 hours a day. So you might say that the record companies are actually getting a bonus, since MP3 has to buy the albums, as well as the end-user.
Oh, come on, it's not a movement, it's a bunch of people who want free music. And no, he's not a poor starving artist, but he's someone who's worked hard and put his stuff out into the world as a privilege, not a right, with the understanding that it's on his terms. He has every right to enforce those terms, as he created it and he didn't have to release it in the first place.
What does "wanting free music" have to do with MP3.com? The only "free music" they have on their site is the stuff that artists are intentionally letting people listen to for free. All the stuff on my.mp3.com you have to prove you own the CD FIRST.
Sure, you could borrow a friend's CD to feed it, but if you could do that, you could make a personal copy almost as easily.
I appreciate what Tim is doing, trying to bring his position to bear in this matter. And I certainly hope that he and Jeff are able to work out a situation where Amazon can give assurances to the little guys, while protecting themselves from the big guys.
As good as these talks are to this particular instance, they are just a band-aid to the greater problem, which is the US Patent Office's general cluelessness in dealing with software and new technology patents. It seems that any real reform has to be done on that level, or else the "worst case" that Tim talks about -- the big tech companies who try to use patents to crush smaller companies -- will happen, it's only a matter of time.
BTW: Say it's not so! Say Tim isn't one of those people who talk on their cell phones in the middle of restaurants!
Oh and I loved that program jumping.?!
Hey, it's possible! The other day the MS Office Assistant Paperclip jumped into the game of Quake III I was playing, and totally wasted me.
And, most importantly, what kind of moron game developer would have a single command that would erase the entire game? Sheesh!
Shades of Dilbert.
"Well, so far, all it does is erase the game on your hard drive...and if you're hooked up to the Internet, it erases all the copies of the game on the Internet...and if you have a modem, it dials up your friends and erases their games, too. And if you have a sound card, it swears at you."
You'll have to forgive Chris Carter for the computer-based story lines because this last one was co-written by William Gibson, as was the one about "uploading consciousness to the Internet".
He's never been one to let reality get in the way of his version of cyberspace.
I really like William Gibson, but it's hard not to cringe at some of the unrealistic footage.
One thing about William Gibson (and something that made him a very popular sci-fi writer) was that he didn't know anything about computers when he wrote Neuromancer, so he didn't recognize any limitations. Which was fine for a world "set sometime in a cyberpunk future", but is less fine for a "here and now" X-Files episode.
He should know more about "modern day" computers and their limitations before he starts to write a "modern day" television episode about computers.
Since I am from Canada, I can understand many American "Beer" drinkers' aversions to drinking Guinness. American beer is very week and almost clear. Clear beer? It just isn't right. You should come up to eastern Canada and try some of our micro-brewed beers. Beers with 6 or 7 % alcohol content, not that wussy 4%.
You haven't had good American beer. Ignore most Macrobrews; about the only thing decent there is Pete's Wicked, Sam Adams, or Henry Weinhards. American microbrews are usually pretty good, though, Rogue Ale up in Oregon makes some good stuff, as do the people down in San Diego who make Arrogant Bastard Ale.
Of course, Americans aren't the only ones who make crappy Macrobrewed beer. In Mexico, Corona and Corona Light (!) come to mind. Corona Light actually looks like white grape juice it's so light. Peroni from Italy pretty well sucks, and everyone knows Fosters is Australian for Millah Lite.
And while I'm raving, how about that American "coffee". It's also virtually clear - kind of an amber color. You can even see the bottom of your cup! What's with that?
A coffee shop near our home makes a "Piledriver", which has 6 shots of espresso. Not only can't you see the bottom of your cup, you need a spoon (and afterwards, a complete neurological physical) when you drink it.
Man (or Woman, or Thing) of the Year is generally given to the most influential person of the past year, positive or negative. Now, Bezos may be a hyper freak, but he has built up Amazon from the ground up into the Internet's first real Super Store, and proved to most of the brick-and-mortar types that e-commerce could really work. E-commerce, and hence Amazon and Bezos, have really revolutionized the way people think of doing business.
And so what if he's losing money... So was AOHell all those years, and now they're raking in the money hand over fist. As Garry Trudeau once said, "If you're not losing a lot of money, you're not being aggressive enough."
On a personal note, I know it's not what a lot of people here want to hear, but I almost won't shop at any place but Amazon. I've had really bad experiences with Barnes & Noble in the past, and while I haven't given Borders.com much of a try yet, they don't have the selection and variety of Amazon. So far I've been completely satisfied with Amazon's prices and customer service.
I did just about all my holiday shopping at Amazon, and encouraged all my friends/family to do the same. Why? Because they have the best selection and customer service of any e-business I've ever ordered from (including Barnes & Noble...don't even talk to me about that fiasco), and I don't have to go to the mall!
The patent garbage will get itself straightened out eventually; I have more important things to think about 12 days before Christmas (like making sure my nephew gets his Dragon Ball Z action figures on time!).
I've played FPS's (Wolf3d, Doom x, Quake x) for over five years now. So when I recently started playing Paintball, I would have an edge; after all, mastering rail shots via mouse, and circle strafing has to give me some advantage, right? Well, I did learn two things:
-Being able to hit people with a rail from across the field doesn't mean beans when you're actually holding a paintball gun; and
-It can hurt when you get hit!
Since humans in general have removed themselves from the laws of Natural Selection, why would it be a problem for humans to improve their species themselves? If a child could be born with fewer physical defects, or less of a genetic tendency toward disease, that's all the better, IMHO.
Also, it's true that at first, this will be an option only available to the wealthy (or those who could get their insurance to pay for it) in industrialized countries. But as the technology improves, it should become cheaper and more widespread. That's the hope, anyway. Look at fertility technology...it's gotten to the point where even welfare mothers can have quintuplets (sigh), so I imagine that genetic technology would follow suit.
As with anything else, there is a possibility that a certain technology could be abused. But the potential good far outweighs the fears, IMHO.
I have it on good authority from someone who works in Juvenile Criminal Justice in Seattle that most of the rioters are known gang members, who are taking advantage of the chaos of the protests to sow a little mayhem and violence. In addition, law enforcement knows that these people are gang members. But how much of this fact has trickled down to the media? Lends credence to some conspiracy theorists, I think.
I found Dogma to be hilarious, but I don't know how Geek-oriented it was. It does show a great deal of challenge towards traditional Catholic dogma, which is an interest shared by, but not limited exclusively to, geeks.
I also didn't see quite the split personality that Katz described in the film, I thought the transitions between comic scenes and lessons of faith were very well done. All in all an excellent film, but not for the easily-offended.
Excellent, ssh with a less restrictive licensing is a very powerful tool for sysadmins.
At the risk of getting flamed, does anyone know if there is a Windows client program that will work with OpenSSH? All Matter-AntiMatter jokes aside, I like to be able to admin from as many different platforms as possible (flexibility) and currently use TeraTerm's SSH extensions. Is there a free (speech, beer, whatever) 'doze client that will work with OpenSSH?
If you listen to what the leaders really think, many of them have all but admitted that democracy is inevitable, but that the country should move slowly, rather than quickly like Russia.
:)
I admit to not being blessed with Telepathy, so how does one go about doing this?
Well, yes. He did a great deal for the Westernization of China and opening China up economically and thus paving the way for slowly becoming more democratic.
That does not automatically follow. In fact, if you read his speeches, you can see that yes, he is all in favor of economic reform, but he wants nothing to do whatsoever with China becoming more democratic ("counter-revolutionary, Western-dependent bourgeois republic").
But Economic reform is a good thing; waiting for the secret police to break down your door isn't.
We have a long, sorry history of human rights abuses; we really shouldn't be lecturing other countries until we've perfected our *own* rights issues.
Human rights issues in any country will never be "perfected", but you're right, Americans should be working on their own human rights abuses, which include economically supporting governments which routinely, brutally suppress protests and calls for political reform (such as China).
Mr. Xiaoping Deng was the man who ordered the massacre of hundreds of unarmed protesters, and that's the man you point to for reform?
Americans' views of China are heavily influenced by the Tiananmen Square massacre, and I just can't see how someone who murders, and then vilifies political protesters was a very reform-minded individual.
This is great and everything, but I would kind of prefer that NEW games be ported. I've already become completely sick of HMM3. How about some Everquest?
I've had a chat with the folks at Verant (the people who produce Everquest) about a Linux port, and they said no way. There's just too much in there dependant on DirectX for them to be willing to port it. But they also said that they were in contact with some of the WINE folks about making it compatible with EQ, so you never know.
And as long as we're all giving wishlists, I'd like to see Linux versions of Alpha Centauri, Half Life, and Tribes. Especially Tribes.
Christians are just as free to share their views as anyone else. It in no way forces you to pay any attention but they DO have the right to express their views.
Of course they do; and I, similarly, have the right to tell them exactly where to stick their religious tracts. Fact is, the hard sell tends not to work when it comes to converting people. A pious, tolerant, and non-judgemental life speaks volumes, however.
And, I have had instances where Christians did try to force me to pay attention, in situations which crossed the line into harrassment.
As I said before you can't expect every Christian you know to have been automatically informed by the Christian Spy Network that 'This one has been tried and turned us down, leave him alone.'
:)
No, but I suppose it is too much to ask that Christians don't proselytize. If I have questions, I'll come to you, otherwise you don't get anywhere by doing the hard sell.
More intelligent Christians will say something they hope will interest you in what they have to say, such as 'Didja know that Peter was able to pick up poison snakes, be bitten and not die?'.
So can Steve "The Crocodile Hunter" Irwin.
Another Christian principle is to not be suprised when you reap what you sow.
And yet another Christian principle is to turn the other cheek, and I don't see a whole hell of a lot of that happening either.
So, the fact that he's been threatened means that he's above criticism?
From where in my message did you get that?! I never said he was above criticism, in fact, in other messages I said that he brought up a subject worthy of argument and debate. I just said that sending someone death threats tends to impact on their freedom to express their opinions.
I've snipped the rest of your message, because it's based on a false premise and is, therefore, false.
Sad but true. Although it is harder for real discussion to take place when folks like Jon Katz (returning to the original topic) seem to define an articulation of the traditional Christian moral position as "screaming."
Does the "traditional Christian moral position" include threatening someone's life? Because that's what I found most disturbing about the Singer argument. It's not because he was called a "monster" that causes him and his students to be under threat of physical violence. There are armed guards posted in his (unmarked) classroom, because people are threatening to kill him to get rid of his opinion once and for all.
People who foam at the mouth and call someone "monster" in order to attack the person, and not the idea, can be easily ignored. It is those people who threaten to kill you to silence your ideas who can't. And that limits everyone's freedom.
Hold your horses a bit, I'm a Southern Baptist and I don't know of anyone who thinks that the bible is 100% quite literally true. We believe that everything it says is in some way true, but not LITERALLY so.
You should pay a bit of attention to your religious leaders. The 1980 Southern Baptist Convention passed a resolution declaring that it was important "to carefully preserve the doctrinal integrity of our institutions"; at this Convention, they proclaimed the infallibility and inerrancy of the Bible. Leading this movement was ex-president of the SBC W.A. Criswell, author of Why I Preach That the Bible Is Literally True. (Also in 1980 SBC president Bailey Smith stated, "God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew." But that's neither here nor there.)
Sociologists Roger Finke and Rodney Stark, in their 1992 book, write "As recently as 1990, nearly two thirds of self-identified Southern Baptists...expressed firm agreement with the statement 'The Bible is the actual word of God and is to be taken literally, word for word' and rejected the alternative 'The Bible is the inspired word of God but not everything in it should be taken literally, word for word.'"
But how are you going to effectively judge what is best for you if you do not have all of the relevant information?
I, and many other non-Christians that I know, are well-versed with Christianity. Having grown up Christian, I've been to church more times than I can reasonably guess (though I estimate it's somewhere around 1,000), and have read the Bible, as well as other theological works, several times. After hearing all the evidence, having grown up with the works of St. Paul, Thomas Aquinas, and CS Lewis, I decided Christianity was not for me.
But apparently, this is difficult for some Christians to accept. Does this stop them from coming to my door, e-mailing me, and talking to me at work (co-worker) about converting to Christianity? Apparently not.
Fact is, a lot of non-Christians do have the "relevant information", and still get told the same old s---...
"You need to open your heart to Jesus."
"If you don't believe the Bible is True, you're not reading it right."
"Your life is so empty without The Lord, you just don't realize it!"
"You're just a tool for Satan! Jesus can help you!"
"There are no contradictions in the Bible! Anyone who says so just doesn't understand it."