I keep hearing people blame this shit on the lawyers, but I just don't buy it.
Lawyers only implement the profoundly absurd laws the Congress has passed. They also do it in a sociopathic manner, but some people think we need that in society.
It turns out not dosing people with mercury is better than doing so. Medical fact.
My grandfather was in medical school in the 1910's. They had a few cadavers in the gross anatomy class where when they sawed open the long bones, mercury spilled out.
How long did the Civil Rights movement take? Women's Suffrage? Those weren't overnight operations but they did cause radical change within the system.
I think it's important to note the trends here. Both of those you cite started at the founding of the country and had ever-increasing support.
Press freedoms started very high in this country. Lincoln then jailed a bunch of journalists and publishers he didn't like, they passed the Espionage Act in 1917, never rescinded the Secret levels after WWII, the FOIA Act was required and is now wantonly ignored, Judith Miller was jailed in 2005, and now politicians are threatening to assassinate Assange. New York Times Company vs. The United States was welcome, but only by a Supreme Court decision did Ellsberg avoid life in prison.
See, right here you have the kernel of the solution.
As soon as somebody tells the car companies that if they put a speaker into the cars that they can get into the "Run Tone" business, charging $5 for a Jetsons, KITT, Lightsaber, generic-futuristic-car-whoosh etc. sound and pocketing half of that with very little incremental cost, they'll jump on the idea of adding the safety feature.
Heck, GM might even be first in line with their OnStar always-tracking-you technology ready to deploy the downloads. Tell 'em it'll get them out of bankruptcy for real too, for good measure.
What takes more resolve? Calling for revolution when you believe you can't change things even though legitimate means are available (because you choose not to use them) or waiting out the slow response time of using the system legitimately?
Well, to play devil's advocate, how long should this response time take? People were writing about these problems in 1950, heck 1850. Has the American Government become better or worse since then?
Bring up the configuration window. Under the 'Desktop' settings, rather than choosing KDE, GNOME, XDM, etc, click 'Settings' and select the "Floating windows" radio option rather than "New virtual desktop".
Well the OP did say "shipping a product based on CPAN stuff,".
Right, modules available from CPAN (rather than re-inventing the wheels). You seem to be implying he meant, "automatically downloading the latest version from CPAN and expecting it will 'just work'," when he said, "I wound up shipping the entire bundle as one, because there's just no way to download it from CPAN and depend on having the exact versions of the modules you developed with available."
So, his LWP is built with Crypt:SSLeay if that's a requirement.
You'd think, but the sibling comment says they were adding features until Beta 7. Might as well just call it the Flarmflooz 7 release if words don't have meanings.
Reading a bunch of comments here leads me to believe Beta 9 will be where most beta testers should expect to jump on board.
I don't think the state of the art is a fixed measure. Time will tell, but Perl 6 is a specification, not a product. Rakudo Perl, the best implementation to date, is written in PIR, the parrot language. It's not done yet, but then again that's what I thought of Ruby when I first started using it in 2003. I still think that, btw.
Y'know, I was torn between writing 'computer science' and 'information theory' when I wrote that. I guess if the string theorists, the collider-builders, and the cosmologists can all be called 'physicists' then 'computer science' can be a big tent.
But then again, physics isn't called 'collider science'.
And now some of physics is starting to look a whole lot like information theory...
Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems for you'd have to build different packages for Ubuntu, Suse, Redhat, Debian, etc? Would 32/64 bit and glibc versions also make a diff?
I think it would depend on the major version of OpenSSL, but they should all have OpenSSL. Same as any other app, a 32-bit version should be able to run on 64-bit OS with compatibility libs, but not without. Native needs native.
Perl modules are often available in "pure perl" and "XS" versions. The pure perl versions don't have these problems, and can be slower. The XS versions are just object code (c-compatible) and have the same problems any other bit of c code would. Sometimes the speed boost is worth it, sometimes it's not. Sometimes one or the other is available, sometimes both. Sometimes people do a port from one way to the other when speed or portability is important or not.
In general, it's easier than building for all the different flavors of Windows that are out there (2000,XP,Vista,7). Apple makes this somewhat easier by cutting off their old users at the knees pretty rapidly, but even there major library version differences can exist on the two supported releases.
I recently volunteered at a local high school for a lunchtime talk for a CS club.
It was advertised as "Learn how to send secret messages to your friends that even the CIA can't break" or something like that, nothing about CS.
In 45 minutes (60 would have been better), they learned how to represent base-26-ish in binary (5 bits), do a XOR, flip pennies to generate a one-time-pad, and encode/decode a secret message.
Non-CS students showed up. No experience was required - I could have done this with 4th graders. Many left happy - it's not clear how many realized they just learned some computer science.
No computers were employed in this exercise. It was sort of silly that we met in the computer lab - an art room would have had better table space. A whiteboard was useful.
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Dupes are one thing, but, wow, this is new territory.
Iran Admits Stuxnet Affected Their Nuclear Program
If the submitter had gone straight to the Google none of this ever would have happened.
I have CDs burned in 1997-1998 that still work perfectly.
What brand did you use? I have several "medical grade" "gold" "100 year" with bad sectors. Stored at room temp, in CD binders, etc.
Lots of buying to do there... I don't see how such defensive strategies can work... Am I missing something?
One of the people in their war room is on the sales team at MarkMonitor?
If they had the tiniest bit of courage and honour left, they'd just come clean with whatever the nasty bits are.
They're probably betting Wikileaks doesn't have all the nasty bits.
I fail to see how the government benefits when A sues B, and neither A nor B are part of the government.
Well, if A purchased the law that allows him to reap bajillions from B, he'll be back again with more graft.
I keep hearing people blame this shit on the lawyers, but I just don't buy it.
Lawyers only implement the profoundly absurd laws the Congress has passed. They also do it in a sociopathic manner, but some people think we need that in society.
It turns out not dosing people with mercury is better than doing so. Medical fact.
My grandfather was in medical school in the 1910's. They had a few cadavers in the gross anatomy class where when they sawed open the long bones, mercury spilled out.
I don't have to see Jon Katz' face to know that he's not human.
Dude, you're having a bad flashback. It'll be OK soon, try to stay calm.
How long did the Civil Rights movement take? Women's Suffrage? Those weren't overnight operations but they did cause radical change within the system.
I think it's important to note the trends here. Both of those you cite started at the founding of the country and had ever-increasing support.
Press freedoms started very high in this country. Lincoln then jailed a bunch of journalists and publishers he didn't like, they passed the Espionage Act in 1917, never rescinded the Secret levels after WWII, the FOIA Act was required and is now wantonly ignored, Judith Miller was jailed in 2005, and now politicians are threatening to assassinate Assange. New York Times Company vs. The United States was welcome, but only by a Supreme Court decision did Ellsberg avoid life in prison.
How about George Jetson's bubble car sound?
See, right here you have the kernel of the solution.
As soon as somebody tells the car companies that if they put a speaker into the cars that they can get into the "Run Tone" business, charging $5 for a Jetsons, KITT, Lightsaber, generic-futuristic-car-whoosh etc. sound and pocketing half of that with very little incremental cost, they'll jump on the idea of adding the safety feature.
Heck, GM might even be first in line with their OnStar always-tracking-you technology ready to deploy the downloads. Tell 'em it'll get them out of bankruptcy for real too, for good measure.
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Oh, those beautiful ideallists.
What takes more resolve? Calling for revolution when you believe you can't change things even though legitimate means are available (because you choose not to use them) or waiting out the slow response time of using the system legitimately?
Well, to play devil's advocate, how long should this response time take? People were writing about these problems in 1950, heck 1850. Has the American Government become better or worse since then?
The technocrats will breed you some rainbow-colored tomatoes and move on to the next problem.
In 2008, 69,000 pedestrians were injured in motor vehicle crashes in the United States, and 4,378 pedestrians were killed.
That's terrible. Who can we bomb about this?
Bring up the configuration window. Under the 'Desktop' settings, rather than choosing KDE, GNOME, XDM, etc, click 'Settings' and select the "Floating windows" radio option rather than "New virtual desktop".
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Well the OP did say "shipping a product based on CPAN stuff,".
Right, modules available from CPAN (rather than re-inventing the wheels). You seem to be implying he meant, "automatically downloading the latest version from CPAN and expecting it will 'just work'," when he said, "I wound up shipping the entire bundle as one, because there's just no way to download it from CPAN and depend on having the exact versions of the modules you developed with available."
So, his LWP is built with Crypt:SSLeay if that's a requirement.
You'd think, but the sibling comment says they were adding features until Beta 7. Might as well just call it the Flarmflooz 7 release if words don't have meanings.
Reading a bunch of comments here leads me to believe Beta 9 will be where most beta testers should expect to jump on board.
the AC is a moron who can't be bothered to read a bug report before mouthing off.
What I wonder is, why is the reaction so different this time around?
Just before the cables began to be published, he threatened to go after the banks.
You can mess with the puppets, but you do not mess with the puppet masters.
I don't think the state of the art is a fixed measure. Time will tell, but Perl 6 is a specification, not a product. Rakudo Perl, the best implementation to date, is written in PIR, the parrot language. It's not done yet, but then again that's what I thought of Ruby when I first started using it in 2003. I still think that, btw.
Y'know, I was torn between writing 'computer science' and 'information theory' when I wrote that. I guess if the string theorists, the collider-builders, and the cosmologists can all be called 'physicists' then 'computer science' can be a big tent.
But then again, physics isn't called 'collider science'.
And now some of physics is starting to look a whole lot like information theory...
Just because openssl is present does not mean that perl LWP will have TLS/SSL/https support. For that you need Crypt::SSLeay.
Right, but the question was about when you were bundling your modules rather than using the system modules.
Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems for you'd have to build different packages for Ubuntu, Suse, Redhat, Debian, etc? Would 32/64 bit and glibc versions also make a diff?
I think it would depend on the major version of OpenSSL, but they should all have OpenSSL. Same as any other app, a 32-bit version should be able to run on 64-bit OS with compatibility libs, but not without. Native needs native.
Perl modules are often available in "pure perl" and "XS" versions. The pure perl versions don't have these problems, and can be slower. The XS versions are just object code (c-compatible) and have the same problems any other bit of c code would. Sometimes the speed boost is worth it, sometimes it's not. Sometimes one or the other is available, sometimes both. Sometimes people do a port from one way to the other when speed or portability is important or not.
In general, it's easier than building for all the different flavors of Windows that are out there (2000,XP,Vista,7). Apple makes this somewhat easier by cutting off their old users at the knees pretty rapidly, but even there major library version differences can exist on the two supported releases.
I recently volunteered at a local high school for a lunchtime talk for a CS club.
It was advertised as "Learn how to send secret messages to your friends that even the CIA can't break" or something like that, nothing about CS.
In 45 minutes (60 would have been better), they learned how to represent base-26-ish in binary (5 bits), do a XOR, flip pennies to generate a one-time-pad, and encode/decode a secret message.
Non-CS students showed up. No experience was required - I could have done this with 4th graders. Many left happy - it's not clear how many realized they just learned some computer science.
No computers were employed in this exercise. It was sort of silly that we met in the computer lab - an art room would have had better table space. A whiteboard was useful.
Scratch that, name me one
Yahoo Store.
(That's not necessarily a recommendation)