Are we talking about the Hotmail with the huge security hole in their cgi programming, which would be a security hole on any OS, even NT?
If so, they apparently use a mix of FreeBSD, Solaris and NT, and their recent security holes have nothing to do with FreeBSD, or even NT for that matter.
Get a machine to reoxygenate the blood, another dialysis type machine to cleanse the blood, an intravenous feeding solution, heck, we're almost there now.
Then encase the whole gizmo in a large cylindrical body with wheels, and make the head hate all other living creatures, especialy doctors.
It seems wasteful to send it back down the sink since it costs about $1000 a pound to put something in orbit.
Why can't they push it to a higher orbit and park it there, maybe move it relatively close to the ISS and make it the first orbital junkyard? Maybe even the first Jamaican space station?
Not too mention the kilojoules of heat that it will add to the atmosphere when it reenters, and the pollution it will spread. Wait!!!, I gotta call Greenpeace.
I wonder if this means the FBI might be in the market for some 'puter Savvy folks like us?
There's a lot more law enforcement agencies out there besides the FBI, maybe local law enforcement agencies are looking for help too.
And would accepting a job like that be selling out?
That depends on your ethics, for myself, I disagree with some laws but I don't think that everything the FBI or other law enforcement agencies does is evil. In fact, I really appreciate having local police around.
Is it ethical to assist in the prevention of certain 'crimes' if you don't believe they are crimes?
Probably not, I would have a hard time doing that.
What kind of penalties would there be if you claimed you were unable to crack a system because you believed the information it held should be legal?
I'm not a lawyer, but I imagine they could range up to dismissal and aiding and abetting criminal charges.
How much do you think the FBI would be willing to pay?
Government typically doesn't pay well, though I'm not sure about government contractors. On the other hand, you would probably have lifetime employment.
What I want to know, is where do I go for a law enforcement auction, I'd love to get my hands on obsolete computers?
And what about the Earth! And all those X-Rays floading the Earth!!!
NASA should be covering the atmosphere with lead to protect us, instead of the useless telescope stuff.
George
Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense! Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year.
Linus was too poor to afford Unix, or a computer, so he wrote his kernel on the back of a shovel by the light of the stove in his one room schoolhouse.
Or is the appropriate analogy
If you're too poor to afford a computer, make your own out of baling wire and thread spools.
That wasn't my point. My point was that sometime a single person can make great changes in society.
Maybe if Linus hadn't come along, FreeBSD would have exploded, but it might have happened a few years later.
What if Berners-Lee hadn't worked to create the web. Maybe Xanadu would be coming to fruition, and for the proceeding 5 years the biggest impact of the internet would still have been USENET.
Yer right, sloppy and imprecise writing on my part.
The article mainly refers to blacks, and a few times to Hispanics.
I suppose when the white population of America dips below 50%, all Americans will be minorities.
Do you have any information on computer usage of other minorities? Are there minority groups that promote computers and education ( I suppose Asian are the stereotype here).
I don't think it's totally economic, I put my in-laws on the net for $150 last year, and I could do it even cheaper this year.
I think it's more philosophical. The internet has barely begun to change society, it's a tidal wave bearing down on our society, and large portions of the poor populations aren't even being told about it.
I suppose we can let them founder, a few exceptional ones will learn on their own, the rest can live with minimum wage service jobs, just as long as we have enough TV and fast food to keep them fat, dumb and non-rioting.
Would he have had enough computer experience to start Linux, or would he have ended working as a security guard or cashier?
Think of the human potential being lost because poor, minority kids are being underexposed to computers. I'm not saying we need to buy every underprivileged kid a computer, but someone needs to let them know that being computer and internet illiterate is going to be a bigger handicap than being unable to drive a car.
The article is saying that black leaders are indifferent to the impact of computers and the 'net on our society, and may lead their children into permanent second class citizenship.
And of course with Linux and old 486's and Pentiums, net access can be almost universal in the United States.
One reason that new coders write Open Source code may be that they're trying to make a name for themselves, and are having trouble getting paid for coding. Can you imagine sending a 3 page codelet to Microsoft (or Sun, or RedHat) and hoping to get hired on that alone? I think you need a hell of a lot of qualifications to get paid for coding without any relevant paid experience.
Contrast that with writing. My team got a book contract on the basis of a 3 page Table of Contents, with little paid writing experience. It's cheap for a publishing company to throw a few thousand dollars at unknowns in hopes that 1 out of 10 books will be a good one.
Maybe, but I think one of the reason there are lots of programmers writing Linux and Open Source software is that they hope for a little fame and peer recognition.
Just about any/.'er can name 5 famous programmers, but can they name famous tech writers (without looking at your bookshelf)? Let's see, Peter Norton, and, umm, Xian Crumlish.
Writing documentation never seems to get the respect that programming does. So why would someone want to write for free if they can't even get a fraction of the respect that Torvalds, Tridgell or Becker gets? Can you see some hot startup wooing a tech writer because of their clear, expository pose? Can you see a startup letting an Open Source tech writer get in on their IPO? Do you ever hear of tech writers cashing in and retiring at 30?
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Isn't Hotmail run on FreeBSD?
Are we talking about the Hotmail with the huge security hole in their cgi programming, which would be a security hole on any OS, even NT?
If so, they apparently use a mix of FreeBSD, Solaris and NT, and their recent security holes have nothing to do with FreeBSD, or even NT for that matter.
George
Right, ideally you would need some kind of rating/moderating system for this, where eveyone who has download sometbing can rate it.
That way, you can tell when someone knows their stuff, and when someone dumped a bunch of man pages into a file and loaded it with keywords.
George
I was just thinking this same idea.
Get a machine to reoxygenate the blood, another dialysis type machine to cleanse the blood, an intravenous feeding solution, heck, we're almost there now.
Then encase the whole gizmo in a large cylindrical body with wheels, and make the head hate all other living creatures, especialy doctors.
MIght make a good exterminator.
George
It costs $79.99 in a store, so you must owe someone $3.99.
Maybe I'll just buy my teacher sister-in-law a beer instead.
George
If you buy over the internet from a company in your own state, and your own state already charges sales tax?
George
I bet Bill Gates would pay for it.
"Mr. Gates, we want to drop Mir into the sun."
"On Sun? Kewl,let me get my checkbook."
George
WOW!
What would shipping be on that?
George
Maybe that 911 center could send this to linuxtoday, or some other media outlets.
I can't wait for the AC FUD spreaders, though.
George
Dang, I must have missed it when a probe from Mars containing water returned to Earth.
They're talking about capturing it on Earth, not spectroscopic analysis from afar.
George
You are probably right, it has been a decade since my last Aerospace class.
Now, if only someone could build a rocket in their junkyard. maybe name it Salvage-1...
George
Asimov: "The dinosaurs died out because they didn't have a space-program."
Larson: The real reason the dinosaurs became extinct...
George
I read that they plan to deorbit it soon.
It seems wasteful to send it back down the sink since it costs about $1000 a pound to put something in orbit.
Why can't they push it to a higher orbit and park it there, maybe move it relatively close to the ISS and make it the first orbital junkyard? Maybe even the first Jamaican space station?
Not too mention the kilojoules of heat that it will add to the atmosphere when it reenters, and the pollution it will spread. Wait!!!, I gotta call Greenpeace.
George
I wonder if this means the FBI might be in the market for some 'puter Savvy folks like us?
There's a lot more law enforcement agencies out there besides the FBI, maybe local law enforcement agencies are looking for help too.
And would accepting a job like that be selling out?
That depends on your ethics, for myself, I disagree with some laws but I don't think that everything the FBI or other law enforcement agencies does is evil. In fact, I really appreciate having local police around.
Is it ethical to assist in the prevention of certain 'crimes' if you don't believe they are crimes?
Probably not, I would have a hard time doing that.
What kind of penalties would there be if you claimed you were unable to crack a system because you believed the information it held should be legal?
I'm not a lawyer, but I imagine they could range up to dismissal and aiding and abetting criminal charges.
How much do you think the FBI would be willing to pay?
Government typically doesn't pay well, though I'm not sure about government contractors. On the other hand, you would probably have lifetime employment.
What I want to know, is where do I go for a law enforcement auction, I'd love to get my hands on obsolete computers?
Oooh, a 386, and the bidding is starting at $50!
George
at least it's not Vogon poetry
And what about the Earth! And all those X-Rays floading the Earth!!!
NASA should be covering the atmosphere with lead to protect us, instead of the useless telescope stuff.
George
Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense! Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year.
kewl,
so the next time one of the neighborhood children offer to sell me their microbus and HP calculator, I'll take them up on it.
George
If people tried other software packages, it wouldn't spread so fast, like...
FreeBSD! and elm.
George
Right, I forgot.
Linus was too poor to afford Unix, or a computer, so he wrote his kernel on the back of a shovel by the light of the stove in his one room schoolhouse.
Or is the appropriate analogy
If you're too poor to afford a computer, make your own out of baling wire and thread spools.
George
That wasn't my point. My point was that sometime a single person can make great changes in society.
Maybe if Linus hadn't come along, FreeBSD would have exploded, but it might have happened a few years later.
What if Berners-Lee hadn't worked to create the web. Maybe Xanadu would be coming to fruition, and for the proceeding 5 years the biggest impact of the internet would still have been USENET.
George
Yer right, sloppy and imprecise writing on my part.
The article mainly refers to blacks, and a few times to Hispanics.
I suppose when the white population of America dips below 50%, all Americans will be minorities.
Do you have any information on computer usage of other minorities? Are there minority groups that promote computers and education ( I suppose Asian are the stereotype here).
George
I don't think it's totally economic, I put my in-laws on the net for $150 last year, and I could do it even cheaper this year.
I think it's more philosophical. The internet has barely begun to change society, it's a tidal wave bearing down on our society, and large portions of the poor populations aren't even being told about it.
I suppose we can let them founder, a few exceptional ones will learn on their own, the rest can live with minimum wage service jobs, just as long as we have enough TV and fast food to keep them fat, dumb and non-rioting.
George
Would he have had enough computer experience to start Linux, or would he have ended working as a security guard or cashier?
Think of the human potential being lost because poor, minority kids are being underexposed to computers. I'm not saying we need to buy every underprivileged kid a computer, but someone needs to let them know that being computer and internet illiterate is going to be a bigger handicap than being unable to drive a car.
The article is saying that black leaders are indifferent to the impact of computers and the 'net on our society, and may lead their children into permanent second class citizenship.
And of course with Linux and old 486's and Pentiums, net access can be almost universal in the United States.
George
From my limited experience, royalties for computer books start at about 10%, more if you have a track record or an aggressive agent.
George
This might seem a inflammatory, beware.
One reason that new coders write Open Source code may be that they're trying to make a name for themselves, and are having trouble getting paid for coding. Can you imagine sending a 3 page codelet to Microsoft (or Sun, or RedHat) and hoping to get hired on that alone? I think you need a hell of a lot of qualifications to get paid for coding without any relevant paid experience.
Contrast that with writing. My team got a book contract on the basis of a 3 page Table of Contents, with little paid writing experience. It's cheap for a publishing company to throw a few thousand dollars at unknowns in hopes that 1 out of 10 books will be a good one.
George
Dumb question?
/.'er can name 5 famous programmers, but can they name famous tech writers (without looking at your bookshelf)? Let's see, Peter Norton, and, umm, Xian Crumlish.
Maybe, but I think one of the reason there are lots of programmers writing Linux and Open Source software is that they hope for a little fame and peer recognition.
Just about any
Writing documentation never seems to get the respect that programming does. So why would someone want to write for free if they can't even get a fraction of the respect that Torvalds, Tridgell or Becker gets? Can you see some hot startup wooing a tech writer because of their clear, expository pose? Can you see a startup letting an Open Source tech writer get in on their IPO? Do you ever hear of tech writers cashing in and retiring at 30?
George