The link (see the info below) was created on September 11th. I certainly had nothing to do with it, since goo.gl wasn't public at the time. In other words, somebody on the google dev team is responsible for the link. Kind of expected with a lame service like yaus (Yet Another Url Shortener).
This also explains why, until I pointed it out (found by random testing of obvious word+number combos) a couple of hours ago, it only had 5 hits in all that time. It's since had almost 800 in the last 4 hours alone
So blame some google tester - not me. I'm just pointing out the flaws in the system - and there are many. Don't shoot the messenger, mkay?
It would be interesting to test all the 4-letter/number combos and see what the distribution of content is. A simple test with a common 4-letter word shows that they're censoring words from the url shortening pool.
BTW cr4p brings you to facebook - how appropriate.
The universe is not a computer problem. The universe is also not a computational device. There's a gaping hole in your argument - the difference between == (equivalency) and === (identity), just as the picture is not the thing.
I created it less than an hour ago, and it seems to be popular - already 232 clicks. Just remember, its "mill" spelled backwards and the two middle letters upper-cased.
I was hoping for the elusive +5 Troll, rarer than a Sasquatch, Nessie, or a lawyer or politician with his hands in his own pockets:-)
The great thing is that, unlike most shortened urls, this one is fairly easy to remember. "mill" spelled backwards, with the middle two letters upper-case.
we built goo.gl with a focus on quality. With goo.gl, every time you shorten a URL, you know it will work, it will work fast, and it will keep working.
First problem ( of many ) - a representation of something is not that something. This is something that programmers forget all the time. There is no such thing as objects, methods, function calls, etc. Those are just representations. At a higher level, ordering a pizza online, and them sending you a fax of that pizza, is not going to work either. Even them sending you a complete description of the state of every single atom in a pizza is not going to work. Information, contrary to popular belief, is not equivalent to the thing being described.
In other words, even if you had a machine that was able to represent every single state of the universe, it is not equivalent to the universe. Any description of something, no matter how detailed, is not that thing, no matter how many times people chant "information theory says otherwise." It's like the pastor who preaches against same-sex marriage, saying it's unnatural and that same-sex behaviour doesn't occur in nature, but completely ignores the male dog humping his leg.
However, what you offer is not proof by contradiction. It buys into the idea that there's the possibility that the universe might be represented by a Turing machine. That's the flawed premise (but try to get people to see it when they've got their precious theories on the line).
Also, the halting problem is trivially solved by allowing the arrow of time to reverse at the end of each calculation (say once a second), so that even a near-infinite solution must, by definition, complete in 1 second of "real" time. In other words, either the Turing machine continues to exist after one second, or it disappears - stuck in an infinite time loop. This lets you know that the problem is either solvable, or not.
As for the "dude" bit, please see my profile thx bye!
And that natural mechanism also involves not being tidally locked to the sun. As I pointed out in several places, if earth were tidally locked, we would not have the benefit of the greenhouse effect from water vapour, and our median temp would be -40. -40F or -40C, it makes no difference. The backside would also be the coldest place in the solar system - colder than Pluto.
Your "solution" is what they're doing now, and it fails - otherwise they wouldn't be complaining. If you're going to troll, try doing better. You could do worse than follow my example:-)
We are only one generation away from being able to create machines that are self-replicating, able to "learn", and small enough to use solar sails to spread throughout the galaxy. Even at that slow a speed, they will be pretty much everywhere within 5 billion years. If life were that ubiquitous, we should not exist - they would have already been here, and basically used all the raw materials that we use for our "carbon-based units".
Water is essential to avoid plate locking. It's super-heated water (>150C) that acts as the lubricant. A planet that's tidally locked to it's primary and doesn't have a greenhouse-gas atmosphere is going to have no free water - it all ends up on the back side, which is well below freezing.
A planet that's tidally locked that has a greenhouse-gas atmosphere is going to experience a runaway greenhouse effect, simply because any greenhouse effect strong enough to keep the water liquid on the backside is going to bake it out on the bright side, and because that has to be one heck of a dense atmosphere. Take earth, stop it's rotation, and see what happens. We die. Some time after we die, all the free water is gone. Large quantities accumulate on the dark side as ice, before the atmosphere itself turns to liquid and snows on the back side.
We'd end up basically with not much in the way of an atmosphere. Nice way to strip it. Remember, until we discovered that Mercury wasn't tidally locked, we thought that theback side of Mercury was the coldest place in the solar system. It would be worse here.
So, you're still doing the old-style trolling, where you just knock sh*t instead of trying to encourage people to think outside the box..
That is so USENET of you.
My solution has the chance to increase their installed base and their revenue. Tweak it, or come up with something better, instead of sitting there like yet another monkey flinging their poo at anyone who passes by.
Think a Pirate is going to be happy with your app phoning home to say "Am I legit?" Probably not.
And if a pirate isn't happy with an app doing this, maybe they'll either uninstall it or pay for it. Problem solved either way.
Earth would naturally have a much higher concentration of atmospheric H2 because it's a lot cooler - it therefore takes a lot longer for free hydrogen molecules to escape. Venus on the other hand has baked them out, but good. Ditto with water. You won't find it on Venus, not as a liquid, not as a gas. It's all bound up in sulfuric acid.
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Actually, my attitude is not negative. I believe that there are solutions that will both increase interoperability and reduce the labour and energy required to actually process and exchange information.
And yes, that 16% figure being mostly corporate and government sites that cant/won't upgrade from IE6 is pretty much the entire IE6 install base.
Correction: Meet the new boss, worse than the old boss.
After selling out to big pharma and the insurance industries with the Health Industry Corporate Welfare Act, why should we expect different?
True health-care reform would have been some variant of the single-payer system that works in other countries to keep costs lower and spread the burden more equitably - not an "If you can't afford (an inadequate) health care insurance plan, we're going to fine you another grand on top of that".
It's gotten so bad that even Sarah Palin is starting to look better - after all, how much damage can she do when she'll quit half-way through?
Or that any inconsistency in the laws of physics is consistent with the idea that the laws of physics are inconsistent. (yes, I know, please don't say "I see what you did there.").
If we take that approach, we can in fact come up with a TOE (Theory of Everything), and maybe even a GUT (Grand Unifying Theory). Just that they won't be as precisely predictive as we'd want them to be - which is entirely consistent with MNiaB theory (Mother Nature is a B*tch).
It may just be a matter of scale - we simply aren't able to take a large enough view. A turing machine, if you only look at one small part of it, is no longer turing-complete. And the presence of a turing-complete machine doesn't mean the enclosing reality suddenly is turing-complete. Think babushka dolls, as in Soviet Russia, Turing completes YOU!
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This also explains why, until I pointed it out (found by random testing of obvious word+number combos) a couple of hours ago, it only had 5 hits in all that time. It's since had almost 800 in the last 4 hours alone
So blame some google tester - not me. I'm just pointing out the flaws in the system - and there are many. Don't shoot the messenger, mkay?
The program is not the universe. Claiming otherwise makes no difference to reality.
I wish I could take credit for it. That's the sort of thing that "just works", and you KNOW it's going to make the rounds.
Mother Nature might be a B*tch, but she also has a sense of humour.
The best one? try cr4p - it links to Facebook. Easy to remember, and pretty descriptive.
It would be interesting to test all the 4-letter/number combos and see what the distribution of content is. A simple test with a common 4-letter word shows that they're censoring words from the url shortening pool.
BTW cr4p brings you to facebook - how appropriate.
The universe is not a computer problem. The universe is also not a computational device. There's a gaping hole in your argument - the difference between == (equivalency) and === (identity), just as the picture is not the thing.
No, you do it like this - which just goes to show that there's literally a gaping hole in their latest product, same as all url shorteners.
They do you idiot! RTFA!
There's a gaping hole in your argument.
I created it less than an hour ago, and it seems to be popular - already 232 clicks. Just remember, its "mill" spelled backwards and the two middle letters upper-cased.
The great thing is that, unlike most shortened urls, this one is fairly easy to remember. "mill" spelled backwards, with the middle two letters upper-case.
I'm not so sure about the "quality" part :-)
Works like a charm!
First goatse.fr goo.gl post!
- and tubgirl, etc?
In other words, even if you had a machine that was able to represent every single state of the universe, it is not equivalent to the universe. Any description of something, no matter how detailed, is not that thing, no matter how many times people chant "information theory says otherwise." It's like the pastor who preaches against same-sex marriage, saying it's unnatural and that same-sex behaviour doesn't occur in nature, but completely ignores the male dog humping his leg.
However, what you offer is not proof by contradiction. It buys into the idea that there's the possibility that the universe might be represented by a Turing machine. That's the flawed premise (but try to get people to see it when they've got their precious theories on the line).
Also, the halting problem is trivially solved by allowing the arrow of time to reverse at the end of each calculation (say once a second), so that even a near-infinite solution must, by definition, complete in 1 second of "real" time. In other words, either the Turing machine continues to exist after one second, or it disappears - stuck in an infinite time loop. This lets you know that the problem is either solvable, or not.
As for the "dude" bit, please see my profile thx bye!
And that natural mechanism also involves not being tidally locked to the sun. As I pointed out in several places, if earth were tidally locked, we would not have the benefit of the greenhouse effect from water vapour, and our median temp would be -40. -40F or -40C, it makes no difference. The backside would also be the coldest place in the solar system - colder than Pluto.
Your "solution" is what they're doing now, and it fails - otherwise they wouldn't be complaining. If you're going to troll, try doing better. You could do worse than follow my example :-)
We are only one generation away from being able to create machines that are self-replicating, able to "learn", and small enough to use solar sails to spread throughout the galaxy. Even at that slow a speed, they will be pretty much everywhere within 5 billion years. If life were that ubiquitous, we should not exist - they would have already been here, and basically used all the raw materials that we use for our "carbon-based units".
I'll leave it to someone else to do the Princess Bride thing?
In Soviet Russia, skype and facebook consume YOU!
A planet that's tidally locked that has a greenhouse-gas atmosphere is going to experience a runaway greenhouse effect, simply because any greenhouse effect strong enough to keep the water liquid on the backside is going to bake it out on the bright side, and because that has to be one heck of a dense atmosphere. Take earth, stop it's rotation, and see what happens. We die. Some time after we die, all the free water is gone. Large quantities accumulate on the dark side as ice, before the atmosphere itself turns to liquid and snows on the back side.
We'd end up basically with not much in the way of an atmosphere. Nice way to strip it. Remember, until we discovered that Mercury wasn't tidally locked, we thought that theback side of Mercury was the coldest place in the solar system. It would be worse here.
That is so USENET of you.
My solution has the chance to increase their installed base and their revenue. Tweak it, or come up with something better, instead of sitting there like yet another monkey flinging their poo at anyone who passes by.
And if a pirate isn't happy with an app doing this, maybe they'll either uninstall it or pay for it. Problem solved either way.
Earth would naturally have a much higher concentration of atmospheric H2 because it's a lot cooler - it therefore takes a lot longer for free hydrogen molecules to escape. Venus on the other hand has baked them out, but good. Ditto with water. You won't find it on Venus, not as a liquid, not as a gas. It's all bound up in sulfuric acid.
And yes, that 16% figure being mostly corporate and government sites that cant/won't upgrade from IE6 is pretty much the entire IE6 install base.
Correction: Meet the new boss, worse than the old boss.
After selling out to big pharma and the insurance industries with the Health Industry Corporate Welfare Act, why should we expect different?
True health-care reform would have been some variant of the single-payer system that works in other countries to keep costs lower and spread the burden more equitably - not an "If you can't afford (an inadequate) health care insurance plan, we're going to fine you another grand on top of that".
It's gotten so bad that even Sarah Palin is starting to look better - after all, how much damage can she do when she'll quit half-way through?
If we take that approach, we can in fact come up with a TOE (Theory of Everything), and maybe even a GUT (Grand Unifying Theory). Just that they won't be as precisely predictive as we'd want them to be - which is entirely consistent with MNiaB theory (Mother Nature is a B*tch).
It may just be a matter of scale - we simply aren't able to take a large enough view. A turing machine, if you only look at one small part of it, is no longer turing-complete. And the presence of a turing-complete machine doesn't mean the enclosing reality suddenly is turing-complete. Think babushka dolls, as in Soviet Russia, Turing completes YOU!
Nobody "walks the DOM" to do anything useful if they can figure out a shortcut.
The Fermi Paradox is "statistics enough" to make the point that life is probably extremely rare - perhaps even unique - in this galaxy.