That's exactly the point. The problem is obvious... the solution isn't.
Much like saying that spending time researching and developing new drugs is a bit silly when it's obvious that cancer kills becuase of rapidly dividing cells!
The model of traffic could really help figure out HOW to make this ideal traffic system. Which would make me VERY happy... my commutes recently have all been part of the "Park on the Highway Festival" that thousands of people have involuntarily joined.
There's some sort of utility I saw a while ago that let you store your password and what site they're for in a file that is encrypted with {PGP|GPG}... so you only have to remember that one password to look up anything else.
Of course, if you loose or forget that one password then you're pretty much screwed.
My passwords are all fairly similar... they all come from a common source, but with vairences... for example, there's an inside joke I have with a long time friend... Using one of those words, the next word in another language, and a significant number, and capitalization changes I get a new password! Works very well...
Which reminds me.. I'm way over due for a password change..
I'm 20. I consider myself older than the "children" mentioned in this article and younger than the "parents" I think this gives me a pretty decent perspective for both sides of this argument.
> It is really, really sickening to see an adult > attempt to incite children over ridiculous > issues
The issue I see here is personal freedom. I don't see that as ridiculous. The issue is that theaters are stopping people (these kids are people, aren't they?) from going to see the movie they want to see. Not because the movie is going to damage and warp them and turn them into pyschotic maniacs, but because they're underage.
> Hell, he goes as far as suggesting that the > aforementioned entities are the centerpeice in > teenage life today.
Well, the are somewhat. Children today spend a LOT of time watching TV.. the "movies" is a popular hang out, the only place you go on dates in high school, etc, etc... That they define you as a person is a bit backwards though... It's the other way around. Who you are determines what movies you want to go see.
> most parents are out to cursh any dreams > children have of having 'fun'.
I know... I understand that parents have the best intentions. That's not what I was arguing. So when the parents take their teen to the movies and by them a ticket, their intentions are good, right? Where does the movie theatre have the right to say "no" to them then?
> they have been alive just a little bit longer > than you
Right... and my grand parents lived in a generation where the thought that swing music was the downfall of society and anyone who liked the music was obviously a santanist and a heathen.
The whole fuss over R rated movies is going to be laughed at by our kids kids.
Anyway, I appreciate your comments (well, except for the one where you called me 15... and the absolute bias against Katz because he is Katz).. the rest was pretty well thought out.
But ya know, that day trader breathed oxygen as well! I say we don't let any of the children breathy oxygen.
Thanks for the flame pal... You're exactly the kind of guy I was talking about. You couldn't refute anything I said so you merely attacked _me_ instead.
> Yes, you are a hypocrite.
Uh. How?
>So, because you watched R movies and didn't kill >anyone, then it is okay for anyone to watch R >movies?
My point is that movies don't make people go kill other people. Music doesn't make people kill other people. WWF doesn't make kids get into fights. South Park hasn't resulted in any mass sucides to get on the mother ship.
>You know, Katz' supporters would have a better >case if they could actually think about their >statements.
Well then bring up something about my statment, AC.
There seems to a lot of readers here who disagree with this article simple because of it's author. They rant "can't he read? Last time he posted this I said that he was wrong!" Well guess what, bucko, I thought he was dead on. Christ, you aren't listening to what anyone has to say. You flame Katz for writing an article that is pro-freedom because of the group that he's writing for. These are the same people who are scared of Echlon! Make up your damn minds.
Now that that's out of the way, why don't we actually talk about this instead of flame? Okay...
People here have posted that they don't believe that children should not be allowed to see movies because they are children. This is where I start to get confused already. I watched plenty of R movies when I was young... Did they make me go out and kill people? Uhh.. lemme think... no.
Then people say that it's okay if the parents go in with them. Wait. So the fact that their parents are there change the movie somehow? Uhh.. lemme think... no. The movie is the exact same movie. How is it different if the parents BUY the tickets? wait.. that's right.. it's not.
Then you claim that the theatres can turn away whoever they want. Yeah, right. You guys would be up in arms in a second if a movie theatre decided to not let black in. Or refused to sell tickets to Jews. How is that any different from refusing a 16 year old and letting in his 17 year old friend?
The point is that this is baseless age discrimination and enforcement of someone elses morals.
I went to see American Pie last night... I didn't get carded... In the movie there were plenty of 15 year olds, a few 6 year olds, and a couple of (crying, sigh) infants. Only the infants were with parents.
I don't remember any of those kids raping anyone on the way to the parking lot...
We really need a GPL FAQ... but since there's not one that I know of, let's hash it out all again;-)
Okay, have you READ the GPL? Do you know what it says?
1) If you make changes / modifications / bug fixes, then they are under the GPL.
2) IF you redistribute, you must make the source availible (or inform them where the CAN get the source) and may not charge more than a media fee for the source.
Therefore, ergo, if they don't redistribute their changes, then they don't have to release the source.
I took a GPLed app and changed a button to say something else. Hahah. you're never gettting it from me!!:-P
So the last major update took 2 1/2 years... Yeah, that's a long time, but there were TONS of changes... 2.2 is far ahead of 2.0... 2.4 won't be quite as big a leap. I would like to see PnP, USB, TCP/IP fixes all working before a 2.4 though....
They only thing I can think of, is that maybe they concentrating on stability now... add a few features, stabilize, lather, rinse, repeat... It could also be that they're saving 3.0 for the major changes.. whatever those might be.
Man.. I still know of boxes running on 2.0.35 (with currently 309 days uptime)... I started on 1.3.something... Our little baby's all grown up!
This morning on the radio the DJ said "So if you want these tickets call Jeff and I at..." I nearly started to cry... Because people use the word "me" when they should use "I" doesn't mean that you should compensate by using "I" when you should use "me"!
I'm going to blame it on public education. It be da fault of the govunment that me can't get no job! On second thought, I'd rather blame stupid people.:-P
News for Nerds Hmm.. Is it news? yes! Is it of interest for nerds? YES! Unless you want to tell me that Biologists and BioChemists aren't nerds. Well, okay, that's one part down.
Stuff that Matters I'm assuming that it would be hard for anyone to argue that this doesn't matter. It definately does!
So... I'd argue that it belongs here as much as the lunar lander not finding water and the like... This isn't "News for Computer Geeks" and some of us want to know what's going on in ALL technologies. If slashdot can do that, then why not?
> By the way, "virii" isn't a word. Yes... we know.. and a hacker isn't a cracker but people still use the word that way. Languages change. Sucks, 'eh?
So we've heard how horrible it is to try to find housing and how high the cost of living is in the valley... Now we hear about all the great stuff the the companies provide for their employees.
Do the perks outweigh the cost of living? Or would it be better to work elsewhere, save on the cost of living and get yourself those items. Of course, this doesn't count the on-the-job perks such as free car washes and laundry service... but on a dollar for dollar amount, which is better?
Personally I think I'd rather live somewhere with a lower cost of living and keep the extra $ in my pocket...
Taking an object, in this case a Palm Pilot, and seeing exactly how much stuff you can make it do is not anything new. I'm sure there are tons of you who spent HOURS programming something on a TI or HP calculator... something totally worthless no doubt, but just to see if it could be done.
If it wasn't for people who constantly strain and push whatever systems their on, then there would be little incentive for advancement.
On that note, anyone have a spare pilot they want to send me
I saw an NT box running exchange for only about 20 people and the damn thing would keep crashing once a month or so. We moved to Linux / Sendmail / CuciPOP and everything was all good.
You travel back in time with the intention of changing something. (e.g., to kill the inventor while he's still a child.)
Therefore the inventor never made the "robot butler" and therefore you would not need to travel back in time. Therefore you don't travel back in time in order to kill the inventor. Hence the inventor lives and makes the "robot butler" so you travel back in time.....
See? Is there any resolution to this? Perhaps leave yourself a note that says "Note to self: Travel back in time and kill this little kid. Don't ask why."
While this seems really nice, it doesn't seem to have much practicle purpose.
My first impression was that it was a self guiding unit that navigate across a room and tow stuff...
Well... it's almost self guiding (using a PC for a back end) but it didn't mention anything about navigation or adeptation. If I kick off my shoes will the bot run into them and get confused? It shouldn't be too hard to detect that sort of thing....
Still... it seems like a remote controlled car being operated by a computer. You set in a predefined path and it follows it. You still have to attach the vacuum, etc...
>The US Government has decided that it needs to protect >it's computer networks from being hacked!
Then take them off the bloody internet. The internet in no way shape or form belongs to the US government. The phone lines? Nope, not property of the US Government. The servers? Nope, try again. My computer? Hell no.
This is about a lack of privacy. They want to monitor ALL NON-MILITARY COMMUNICATION. Well, they can bite me.
This has NOTHING to do with their sites getting cracked. That has to do with their sys admins being lazy slobs.
> being blown out of proportion by you people.
Really? Would you mind posting all the emails you send and receive and transcripts of your telephone conversations, plus a complete list of all the web pages you've visted on your website?
Why not? That wouldn't violate your freedom, would it? In fact, I'm going to shut off your internet access unless you do so!
That's total bulls*** man... NO ONE needs to read my emails. Not even the "I'll be right over" ones or the "What time are we going to the game" or "what's for dinner"... NO ONE.
Tell me WHY they need to monitor all communicaition. If they're concerned about their sites, then let the rat bastards protect them.
> the reasoning behind his little rampage was > revealed when it was discovered he had a copy of > Rambo in the house.
Oh god... PLEASE tell me that you're not being serious here.. PLEASE.
I'm so sick and tired of hearing everyone blame their problems on someone or something else. People are blaming their problems and their actions on video games, movies, tv, their parents, society, alien radio waves, and the color green.
Why can't people admit that the kid who shot up his schoolmates was probably a pyscopath? That it had nothing to do with the fact that he liked to watch action movies?
_I_ like to watch action movies. Would it be okay for me to go on a shooting rampage then? But it's not my fault! I saw Rambo, I, II, and III!!
If a Banana isn't a Kiwi, please try an Orange. I understand it's not a Kiwi either. I guess that means that a Banana is really an Orange.
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> If the[y] bought enough
Right.. as long as Redhat owns >50% of the stock, then Microsoft wouldn't be able to do anything anyway... They wouldn't have a controlling interest.
I doubt RedHat would let someone hostile to the company on the board of directors... Something about rival companies.. who knows... I rest assured that any attempt by MS will be thwarted.
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> I wonder how much of that stock will just be snapped up by >the bigger companies like IBM, Intel, and, unfortunately, M$?
I think that RedHat would be really foolish to sell more than 50% of their stock... I'm sure that they'll be retaining control.
I'm sure everyone will be buying this stock... and that's probably a Good Thing(tm) if the people from Microsoft want to buy stock, then good! More money for Redhat which means more money for Linux devlopment.
I'm pretty sure that the e-brokers will experience a slashdot effect like none other... Everyone will want in on this... I guess we test how well they hold up then!
In my experience, the Real software gets really, really, really upset when it can't write to the sound card RIGHT NOW!
So if your CPU churns a little and the sound gets delayed a bit, it explodes all over the place.
The best way to get around this is to use "esd"... then you can just start it like so "esddsp rvplayer" and life is good... on clips with sound and video, the sound will lag behind the video...
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That's exactly the point. The problem is obvious... the solution isn't.
Much like saying that spending time researching and developing new drugs is a bit silly when it's obvious that cancer kills becuase of rapidly dividing cells!
The model of traffic could really help figure out HOW to make this ideal traffic system. Which would make me VERY happy... my commutes recently have all been part of the "Park on the Highway Festival" that thousands of people have involuntarily joined.
Telecommute? I wish. Maybe soon.
There's some sort of utility I saw a while ago that let you store your password and what site they're for in a file that is encrypted with {PGP|GPG}... so you only have to remember that one password to look up anything else.
Of course, if you loose or forget that one password then you're pretty much screwed.
My passwords are all fairly similar... they all come from a common source, but with vairences... for example, there's an inside joke I have with a long time friend... Using one of those words, the next word in another language, and a significant number, and capitalization changes I get a new password! Works very well...
Which reminds me.. I'm way over due for a password change..
> Zack, how old are you? 15,16?
I'm 20. I consider myself older than the "children" mentioned in this article and younger than the "parents" I think this gives me a pretty decent perspective for both sides of this argument.
> It is really, really sickening to see an adult
> attempt to incite children over ridiculous
> issues
The issue I see here is personal freedom. I don't see that as ridiculous. The issue is that theaters are stopping people (these kids are people, aren't they?) from going to see the movie they want to see. Not because the movie is going to damage and warp them and turn them into pyschotic maniacs, but because they're underage.
> Hell, he goes as far as suggesting that the
> aforementioned entities are the centerpeice in
> teenage life today.
Well, the are somewhat. Children today spend a LOT of time watching TV.. the "movies" is a popular hang out, the only place you go on dates in high school, etc, etc... That they define you as a person is a bit backwards though... It's the other way around. Who you are determines what movies you want to go see.
> most parents are out to cursh any dreams
> children have of having 'fun'.
I know... I understand that parents have the best intentions. That's not what I was arguing. So when the parents take their teen to the movies and by them a ticket, their intentions are good, right? Where does the movie theatre have the right to say "no" to them then?
> they have been alive just a little bit longer
> than you
Right... and my grand parents lived in a generation where the thought that swing music was the downfall of society and anyone who liked the music was obviously a santanist and a heathen.
The whole fuss over R rated movies is going to be laughed at by our kids kids.
Anyway, I appreciate your comments (well, except for the one where you called me 15... and the absolute bias against Katz because he is Katz).. the rest was pretty well thought out.
Looks like we have to agree to disagree...
I breath Oxygen, and I haven't killed anyone.
But ya know, that day trader breathed oxygen as well! I say we don't let any of the children breathy oxygen.
Thanks for the flame pal... You're exactly the kind of guy I was talking about. You couldn't refute anything I said so you merely attacked _me_ instead.
> Yes, you are a hypocrite.
Uh. How?
>So, because you watched R movies and didn't kill
>anyone, then it is okay for anyone to watch R
>movies?
My point is that movies don't make people go kill other people. Music doesn't make people kill other people. WWF doesn't make kids get into fights. South Park hasn't resulted in any mass sucides to get on the mother ship.
>You know, Katz' supporters would have a better
>case if they could actually think about their
>statements.
Well then bring up something about my statment, AC.
There seems to a lot of readers here who disagree with this article simple because of it's author. They rant "can't he read? Last time he posted this I said that he was wrong!" Well guess what, bucko, I thought he was dead on. Christ, you aren't listening to what anyone has to say. You flame Katz for writing an article that is pro-freedom because of the group that he's writing for. These are the same people who are scared of Echlon! Make up your damn minds.
Now that that's out of the way, why don't we actually talk about this instead of flame? Okay...
People here have posted that they don't believe that children should not be allowed to see movies because they are children. This is where I start to get confused already. I watched plenty of R movies when I was young... Did they make me go out and kill people? Uhh.. lemme think... no.
Then people say that it's okay if the parents go in with them. Wait. So the fact that their parents are there change the movie somehow? Uhh.. lemme think... no. The movie is the exact same movie. How is it different if the parents BUY the tickets? wait.. that's right.. it's not.
Then you claim that the theatres can turn away whoever they want. Yeah, right. You guys would be up in arms in a second if a movie theatre decided to not let black in. Or refused to sell tickets to Jews. How is that any different from refusing a 16 year old and letting in his 17 year old friend?
The point is that this is baseless age discrimination and enforcement of someone elses morals.
I went to see American Pie last night... I didn't get carded... In the movie there were plenty of 15 year olds, a few 6 year olds, and a couple of (crying, sigh) infants. Only the infants were with parents.
I don't remember any of those kids raping anyone on the way to the parking lot...
We really need a GPL FAQ... but since there's not one that I know of, let's hash it out all again ;-)
:-P
Okay, have you READ the GPL? Do you know what it says?
1) If you make changes / modifications / bug fixes, then they are under the GPL.
2) IF you redistribute, you must make the source availible (or inform them where the CAN get the source) and may not charge more than a media fee for the source.
Therefore, ergo, if they don't redistribute their changes, then they don't have to release the source.
I took a GPLed app and changed a button to say something else. Hahah. you're never gettting it from me!!
This has to do with your browser, I believe...
I know netscape LOVES to reload pages all the time... Life's rough, ain't it?
So the last major update took 2 1/2 years... Yeah, that's a long time, but there were TONS of changes... 2.2 is far ahead of 2.0... 2.4 won't be quite as big a leap. I would like to see PnP, USB, TCP/IP fixes all working before a 2.4 though....
They only thing I can think of, is that maybe they concentrating on stability now... add a few features, stabilize, lather, rinse, repeat... It could also be that they're saving 3.0 for the major changes.. whatever those might be.
Man.. I still know of boxes running on 2.0.35 (with currently 309 days uptime)... I started on 1.3.something... Our little baby's all grown up!
Hehe.. yeah.. I'm an SE hard core...
I've got the worst spelling in the world..
If man was ment to spel, god wudn't have ivintid spall chekers!
Hehehe....
:-P
This morning on the radio the DJ said "So if you want these tickets call Jeff and I at..." I nearly started to cry... Because people use the word "me" when they should use "I" doesn't mean that you should compensate by using "I" when you should use "me"!
I'm going to blame it on public education. It be da fault of the govunment that me can't get no job! On second thought, I'd rather blame stupid people.
News for Nerds Hmm.. Is it news? yes! Is it of interest for nerds? YES! Unless you want to tell me that Biologists and BioChemists aren't nerds. Well, okay, that's one part down.
Stuff that Matters I'm assuming that it would be hard for anyone to argue that this doesn't matter. It definately does!
So... I'd argue that it belongs here as much as the lunar lander not finding water and the like... This isn't "News for Computer Geeks" and some of us want to know what's going on in ALL technologies. If slashdot can do that, then why not?
> By the way, "virii" isn't a word.
Yes... we know.. and a hacker isn't a cracker but people still use the word that way. Languages change. Sucks, 'eh?
So we've heard how horrible it is to try to find housing and how high the cost of living is in the valley... Now we hear about all the great stuff the the companies provide for their employees.
Do the perks outweigh the cost of living? Or would it be better to work elsewhere, save on the cost of living and get yourself those items. Of course, this doesn't count the on-the-job perks such as free car washes and laundry service... but on a dollar for dollar amount, which is better?
Personally I think I'd rather live somewhere with a lower cost of living and keep the extra $ in my pocket...
I think that this is simply a tribute to geekdom.
Taking an object, in this case a Palm Pilot, and seeing exactly how much stuff you can make it do is not anything new. I'm sure there are tons of you who spent HOURS programming something on a TI or HP calculator... something totally worthless no doubt, but just to see if it could be done.
If it wasn't for people who constantly strain and push whatever systems their on, then there would be little incentive for advancement.
On that note, anyone have a spare pilot they want to send me
Unqualified response.
I saw an NT box running exchange for only about 20 people and the damn thing would keep crashing once a month or so. We moved to Linux / Sendmail / CuciPOP and everything was all good.
I'm sure FreeBSD would work as well...
Simple... when the stock price falls to about $.01 a share and Joe Linux Geek looses all his money, then he can't hold them liable.
"But he SAID he had lots of expereince and could afford to lose money! It's not OUR fault!" And so they have their asses covered.
It's not about honesty, it's about liability...
I'm sorry Ken. I can't let you do that.
Wouldn't you like MS Brand Whiskey instead?
It's a possibility...
Can you imagine how shocked I was to learn that Homer Simpson, from the show "The Simpsons" isn't a REAL PERSON? He's actually animated!
Wow! I can't believe they have the technology to make such a realistic person! And all that just to fool innocent viewers like myself.
I feel hurt. Betrayed.
*sniff*
Here's an interesting paradox:
You travel back in time with the intention of changing something. (e.g., to kill the inventor while he's still a child.)
Therefore the inventor never made the "robot butler" and therefore you would not need to travel back in time. Therefore you don't travel back in time in order to kill the inventor. Hence the inventor lives and makes the "robot butler" so you travel back in time.....
See? Is there any resolution to this? Perhaps leave yourself a note that says "Note to self: Travel back in time and kill this little kid. Don't ask why."
While this seems really nice, it doesn't seem to have much practicle purpose.
My first impression was that it was a self guiding unit that navigate across a room and tow stuff...
Well... it's almost self guiding (using a PC for a back end) but it didn't mention anything about navigation or adeptation. If I kick off my shoes will the bot run into them and get confused? It shouldn't be too hard to detect that sort of thing....
Still... it seems like a remote controlled car being operated by a computer. You set in a predefined path and it follows it. You still have to attach the vacuum, etc...
Still... I wouldn't mind having one...
>The US Government has decided that it needs to protect
>it's computer networks from being hacked!
Then take them off the bloody internet. The internet in no way shape or form belongs to the US government. The phone lines? Nope, not property of the US Government. The servers? Nope, try again. My computer? Hell no.
This is about a lack of privacy. They want to monitor ALL NON-MILITARY COMMUNICATION. Well, they can bite me.
This has NOTHING to do with their sites getting cracked. That has to do with their sys admins being lazy slobs.
> being blown out of proportion by you people.
Really? Would you mind posting all the emails you send and receive and transcripts of your telephone conversations, plus a complete list of all the web pages you've visted on your website?
Why not? That wouldn't violate your freedom, would it? In fact, I'm going to shut off your internet access unless you do so!
That's total bulls*** man... NO ONE needs to read my emails. Not even the "I'll be right over" ones or the "What time are we going to the game" or "what's for dinner"... NO ONE.
Tell me WHY they need to monitor all communicaition. If they're concerned about their sites, then let the rat bastards protect them.
> the reasoning behind his little rampage was
> revealed when it was discovered he had a copy of
> Rambo in the house.
Oh god... PLEASE tell me that you're not being serious here.. PLEASE.
I'm so sick and tired of hearing everyone blame their problems on someone or something else. People are blaming their problems and their actions on video games, movies, tv, their parents, society, alien radio waves, and the color green.
Why can't people admit that the kid who shot up his schoolmates was probably a pyscopath? That it had nothing to do with the fact that he liked to watch action movies?
_I_ like to watch action movies. Would it be okay for me to go on a shooting rampage then? But it's not my fault! I saw Rambo, I, II, and III!!
> People are assholes.
Amen. A Person might not be, but People are.
If a Banana isn't a Kiwi, please try an Orange. I understand it's not a Kiwi either. I guess that means that a Banana is really an Orange.
> If the[y] bought enough
Right.. as long as Redhat owns >50% of the stock, then Microsoft wouldn't be able to do anything anyway... They wouldn't have a controlling interest.
I doubt RedHat would let someone hostile to the company on the board of directors... Something about rival companies.. who knows... I rest assured that any attempt by MS will be thwarted.
> I wonder how much of that stock will just be snapped up by
>the bigger companies like IBM, Intel, and, unfortunately, M$?
I think that RedHat would be really foolish to sell more than 50% of their stock... I'm sure that they'll be retaining control.
I'm sure everyone will be buying this stock... and that's probably a Good Thing(tm) if the people from Microsoft want to buy stock, then good! More money for Redhat which means more money for Linux devlopment.
I'm pretty sure that the e-brokers will experience a slashdot effect like none other... Everyone will want in on this... I guess we test how well they hold up then!
In my experience, the Real software gets really, really, really upset when it can't write to the sound card RIGHT NOW!
... then you can just start it like so "esddsp rvplayer" and life is good... on clips with sound and video, the sound will lag behind the video...
So if your CPU churns a little and the sound gets delayed a bit, it explodes all over the place.
The best way to get around this is to use "esd"
It ought to fix seg faults though...