iChat: i use it as my AIM client now... it's not the same as Fire and Adium, as it uses the real oscar protocols rather than the older TOC which has far fewer features.
TOC isn't older than OSCAR. TOC is text-based and documented, while OSCAR is binary and proprietary. OSCAR has been reverse-engineered, and I'm fairly certain that Fire uses it, as do Gaim and Trillian. However, AOL keeps changing their OSCAR servers to break unofficial clients, which has been a problem in the past. TOC doesn't support basic features like changing your password, which is why nobody wants to use it. TiK uses TOC.
Yahoo: I use my cam with this most of the time, but yahoo limits your frame rates big time usually to no more than 2 or 3 fps tops. Not having voice really sucks too.
For those of us with cheap USB webcams, that may be as good as we can get anyway.
ice to know that if the power goes out i have to walk down 11 flights of stairs, but i can still work (in the dark, no AC) on my computer and use my phone.. gee.. i guess i know where my employeres priorities are.
Should be obvious, no?
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Of course, I had to wait for MY neighbourhood's power to come back up as my UPS died about 4.5 hours into the blackout; my wife won't let me add the additional 300lbs of batteries required to last a full 24 hours.:(
With the majority of AOL users still dialing-up it would be a shame to integrate this into their instant messaging clients.
Hardly any AIM users* use AOL. AOL has their own Buddy List thing which (finally) implements most of AIM's functionality (it was very limited and horribly broken for a long time; it's apparently better now), but AIM and AOL aren't even developed by the same teams. Adding videoconferencing will have no bearing on AOL's dialup software.
* I mean people using an AIM client, not AOL's Buddy List feature. Some AOL users do run AIM on top of AOL just because the AOL Buddy List thing sucks so bad.
Personally I think iChat sucks, compared to AIM, with the obvious exception of videoconferencing, but I don't know anyone with a FireWire camera anyway. Hopefully this news means by the time I do, AOL will have added videoconferencing support to AIM, and it will interoperate with iChat. That would rock.
In the mean time, Yahoo! Messenger is the best free videoconferencing app I've found, although it just does video, no sound.
I actually like the Mac version of AIM a lot more than the Windows version of AIM. The OSX version is finally catching up to the usability of the OS9 version (I ran the OS9 version in Classic for a long time) - the only missing feature I can think of is voice chats, and lots of new features have been added - Buddy Alerts (much more advanced than the "pounce" feature that's been in TiK forever), encrypted log files (although it crashes whenever I try to copy out of a log - if this bug gets fixed in the next release, it should work quite well), the ability to select different voices for different people (for speech syntheses), icons to indicate whether someone's signed on via a cell phone.
Yes, the Linux version is horribly out of date. At least it works, and it's stable, unlike Gaim, which has never liked me.
By the way, I think iChat is mostly terrible - videoconferencing is great if you have a FireWire camera, and the Address Book integration is great if you've already taken the time to add everybody to your Address Book (which is a bigger pain in the ass than it ought to be), but otherwise... well, it's better than AIM for Linux.
There are many different "symbol"-type fonts, numerous code-pages,...
I was referring to the only common font I've ever seen which is actually called "Symbol". It has been around for over a decade, and many other Slashdotters (including the submitter) are obviosuly familiar with it.
the assumptions in "Yes, dimwit, it is the Symbol font. The Symbol font consists primarily of Greek letters." are a tad, ah, assumptive, IYSWIM
So are the assumptions in and if one doesn't live in MS-Windows, and hasn't seen MS-Windows for a couple of years, how is one to know MS-Windows CodePage(whatever) "symbol" font on sight, then? The Symbol font comes standard with the Mac OS. I assure you, I don't live in, or anywhere near, MS-Windows, although I have been forced to work with it on occasion.
My first reaction to such a comment is Which "symbol" font?.. From what font-foundry?
According to the version string, it's (C)1990-91 Bitstream Inc. and 1990-99 Apple Computer Inc.
unless the comments are the same because they are both from an earlier, freely availible, program. Which many of the other comments in this thread suggest, that it is BSD code dating back to 1986.
In that case, is the BSD copyright notice intact, as the BSD license requires? If not, it's still plagiarism, though not from SCO. If so, then it's all good. I have no idea.:-)
* * As part of the kernel evolution towards modular naming, the * functions malloc and mfree are being renamed to rmalloc and rmfree. * Compatibity will be maintained by the following assembled code: * (also see mfree/rmfree below) */
Of course nobody's tested it, the machines haven't been available before. Why do you say it doesn't work? Why wouldn't it? If it doesn't work, complain to Microsoft, and see what they have to say.
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to have it posted somewhere besides a site that already advocates Open Source solutions? I mean, how about local newspapers?
It's preaching to the converted, otherwise. I don't mean to sound like a troll, but c'mon guys./. and LT readers are pretty well in favor of it already. How about telling someone who doesn't already know?
Didn't read the article, did you? This article isn't preaching to the converted, because it's not preaching at all - it's about the lobbying process, not about the merits of Open Source software. The Oregonian (the state's largest newspaper) has already covered this, as the article mentioned.
This article is specifically calling for Open Source advocates (such as those found on Slashdot) to take action by contacting their senators. This article is not written for the general public who may not already be well-informed on the merits of Open Source software. If you'd like to write such an article and send it to your local newspaper, feel free to do so.
Just to pick a medical nit, however, he did misspell his medication... it's Vicodin, not "Vicaden" (changing a letter or two in a medication name could cause a medication error).
He made a lot of other typos as well. Most confusing error was about halfway through:
As I approached Sen. Atkinson's office I called to him, "Senator Atkinson," I said, "would you at least consider this legislation?"
"I'll tell you what I'll do," he said, "if Senator Atkinson says it's okay, then it's okay with me--he's the tech guy.'"
I'm pretty sure that should be:
As I approached Sen. Beyer's office I called to him, "Senator Beyer," I said, "would you at least consider this legislation?"
"I'll tell you what I'll do," he said, "if Senator Atkinson says it's okay, then it's okay with me--he's the tech guy."
OK, so I'm a seasoned karma whore. Now, would someone kindly clue me in as to the origins of this? Is it a quote from a bad sci-fi movie or something? What exactly is the original quote? Could non-Slashdotters be expected to get this joke too, or would they be just as confused as they are about the IN SOVIET RUSSIA joke? Thanks!;-)
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iChat: i use it as my AIM client now... it's not the same as Fire and Adium, as it uses the real oscar protocols rather than the older TOC which has far fewer features.
TOC isn't older than OSCAR. TOC is text-based and documented, while OSCAR is binary and proprietary. OSCAR has been reverse-engineered, and I'm fairly certain that Fire uses it, as do Gaim and Trillian. However, AOL keeps changing their OSCAR servers to break unofficial clients, which has been a problem in the past. TOC doesn't support basic features like changing your password, which is why nobody wants to use it. TiK uses TOC.
Yahoo: I use my cam with this most of the time, but yahoo limits your frame rates big time usually to no more than 2 or 3 fps tops. Not having voice really sucks too.
For those of us with cheap USB webcams, that may be as good as we can get anyway.
ice to know that if the power goes out i have to walk down 11 flights of stairs, but i can still work (in the dark, no AC) on my computer and use my phone.. gee.. i guess i know where my employeres priorities are.
Should be obvious, no?
Of course, I had to wait for MY neighbourhood's power to come back up as my UPS died about 4.5 hours into the blackout; my wife won't let me add the additional 300lbs of batteries required to last a full 24 hours. :(
You want fuel cells, not batteries.
Your memory is correct, but that doesn't mean AOL will go along with it.
Try Jabber. There's also an ncurses-based AIM client somewhere.
With the majority of AOL users still dialing-up it would be a shame to integrate this into their instant messaging clients.
Hardly any AIM users* use AOL. AOL has their own Buddy List thing which (finally) implements most of AIM's functionality (it was very limited and horribly broken for a long time; it's apparently better now), but AIM and AOL aren't even developed by the same teams. Adding videoconferencing will have no bearing on AOL's dialup software.
* I mean people using an AIM client, not AOL's Buddy List feature. Some AOL users do run AIM on top of AOL just because the AOL Buddy List thing sucks so bad.
iChat is not the Mac version of AIM. iChat is Apple's AIM clone. Other AIM clones include Fire and Adium.
Personally I think iChat sucks, compared to AIM, with the obvious exception of videoconferencing, but I don't know anyone with a FireWire camera anyway. Hopefully this news means by the time I do, AOL will have added videoconferencing support to AIM, and it will interoperate with iChat. That would rock.
In the mean time, Yahoo! Messenger is the best free videoconferencing app I've found, although it just does video, no sound.
I actually like the Mac version of AIM a lot more than the Windows version of AIM. The OSX version is finally catching up to the usability of the OS9 version (I ran the OS9 version in Classic for a long time) - the only missing feature I can think of is voice chats, and lots of new features have been added - Buddy Alerts (much more advanced than the "pounce" feature that's been in TiK forever), encrypted log files (although it crashes whenever I try to copy out of a log - if this bug gets fixed in the next release, it should work quite well), the ability to select different voices for different people (for speech syntheses), icons to indicate whether someone's signed on via a cell phone.
Yes, the Linux version is horribly out of date. At least it works, and it's stable, unlike Gaim, which has never liked me.
By the way, I think iChat is mostly terrible - videoconferencing is great if you have a FireWire camera, and the Address Book integration is great if you've already taken the time to add everybody to your Address Book (which is a bigger pain in the ass than it ought to be), but otherwise... well, it's better than AIM for Linux.
There are many different "symbol"-type fonts, numerous code-pages,...
.. From what font-foundry?
I was referring to the only common font I've ever seen which is actually called "Symbol". It has been around for over a decade, and many other Slashdotters (including the submitter) are obviosuly familiar with it.
the assumptions in "Yes, dimwit, it is the Symbol font. The Symbol font consists primarily of Greek letters." are a tad, ah, assumptive, IYSWIM
So are the assumptions in and if one doesn't live in MS-Windows, and hasn't seen MS-Windows for a couple of years, how is one to know MS-Windows CodePage(whatever) "symbol" font on sight, then? The Symbol font comes standard with the Mac OS. I assure you, I don't live in, or anywhere near, MS-Windows, although I have been forced to work with it on occasion.
My first reaction to such a comment is Which "symbol" font?
According to the version string, it's (C)1990-91 Bitstream Inc. and 1990-99 Apple Computer Inc.
Why should they worry about re-wording a freak'n comment?
Rewording? The Linux comment should have been written without looking at proprietary UNIX comments.
And maybe it was - maybe both of these were derived from the same freely-available source - or maybe SCO is right.
unless the comments are the same because they are both from an earlier, freely availible, program. Which many of the other comments in this thread suggest, that it is BSD code dating back to 1986.
:-)
In that case, is the BSD copyright notice intact, as the BSD license requires? If not, it's still plagiarism, though not from SCO. If so, then it's all good. I have no idea.
There is nothing wrong with having the same comments.
Except, of course, that it's plagiarism?
(Please note that I can not, in fact, read Greek. It was more just to point out that it's not, you know, Symbol font.)
Yes, dimwit, it is the Symbol font. The Symbol font consists primarily of Greek letters.
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* functions malloc and mfree are being renamed to rmalloc and rmfree.
* Compatibity will be maintained by the following assembled code:
* (also see mfree/rmfree below)
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It doesnt work... anyone have tested it???
Of course nobody's tested it, the machines haven't been available before. Why do you say it doesn't work? Why wouldn't it? If it doesn't work, complain to Microsoft, and see what they have to say.
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to have it posted somewhere besides a site that already advocates Open Source solutions? I mean, how about local newspapers?
/. and LT readers are pretty well in favor of it already. How about telling someone who doesn't already know?
It's preaching to the converted, otherwise. I don't mean to sound like a troll, but c'mon guys.
Didn't read the article, did you? This article isn't preaching to the converted, because it's not preaching at all - it's about the lobbying process, not about the merits of Open Source software. The Oregonian (the state's largest newspaper) has already covered this, as the article mentioned.
This article is specifically calling for Open Source advocates (such as those found on Slashdot) to take action by contacting their senators. This article is not written for the general public who may not already be well-informed on the merits of Open Source software. If you'd like to write such an article and send it to your local newspaper, feel free to do so.
He made a lot of other typos as well. Most confusing error was about halfway through:I'm pretty sure that should be:
Apple had nothing to do with this. The designer just stuck an "i" in front of the name.
Sex Toys: iLoveBalls?
There was a parody commercial about the iBrator floating around the 'Net a few years ago...
*taps fingers together* Excellent.
;-)
Thanks.
I think I did see that episode, now that you mention it. Thanks. :-)
From the Slashdot summary: eight degrees more than the previously recorded maximum temperature that an organism can survive.
As others here have pointed out, 121C is 250F.
OK, so I'm a seasoned karma whore. Now, would someone kindly clue me in as to the origins of this? Is it a quote from a bad sci-fi movie or something? What exactly is the original quote? Could non-Slashdotters be expected to get this joke too, or would they be just as confused as they are about the IN SOVIET RUSSIA joke? Thanks! ;-)
I, for one, welcome our new iron-eating overlords.