werd. give me analog over digital any day of the week, including Sunday.
it's like with synthesizers, the difference between the Moog and the Rave-O-Lution. the Moog was and is completely analog, wheras the Rave is digital. the Rave-O-Lution comes with a complete set of digital waveforms that replicate the sound of the MiniMoog, but if you play the two side-by-side (i have), the MiniMoog just completely destroys it, because with the MiniMoog, you're hear a the current hit the oscilator and blah blah blah until you get a thick, fat crunch out the other end. but with the Rave, the Moog just comes out sounding hollow and empty, because it's just a bunch of 1's and 0's representing the beautiful Moog.
well, in the case that the album has been re-issued, then it's back to where i was before. the record company people need to pay their people (and make an enormous profit), and royalties still need to be paid.
on a pressing run of about 10,000 CDs, you would expect to pay around $.20 for each CD, and then maybe $.40 for packaging.
i agree that CD prices are outragous, but you can't reasonably expect that music companies sell CDs at cost. they are huge, bloated and bureaucratic institutions with lots of cronies to pay. and with a lot of crappy bands, there are too many royalties to be dolled out. some of the more talentless bunches must hire songwriters (read:N'Sync, etc) to write that crap. those song writers collect.
truthfully, a band like N'Sync doesn't make that much money of their CD sales. most of that money is dealt out to the studio musicians (who get paid obscene amounts of money), the label and every other Joe who can stake a bit of claim. their big (and it is big) money comes from touring and merchandise bearing their likeness.
remember, when you buy a major label CD, you're paying for that lawyer who sent you the "cease and desist" order. there are two easy ways to avoid major label crap; buy used - as long as you're willing to wait a few months until someone tires of the new Beck CD and decides to rid themselves of it, then you should be okay. or, just buy independent. that's where the most interesting music of the last ten years has come from, anyway.
i can assure you that they really do suck. my band was invited onto some of the dates for the Warped Tour last year, and needless to say, we were excited. until we learned that we had to join ASCAP. at first, i thought it was some kind of shady racket to shake down musicians. instead, it turns out it's a shady racket to shake down their fans.
the ASCAP monthly newsletter is delivered monthly to my house. as of late, seemingly the sole focus of the magazine has been MP3 and how it threatens the music industry. last month, there was an extensive article on how bands and labels can attack fan sites.
i guess that, were we being sued, or was my band getting actual radio airplay, ASCAP fight be slightly helpful, but i even doubt that.
it's also worth pointing out that we were NEVER paid for our Warp Tour dates. it's normal to get little or nothing playing a small club to 50 people, but when your band plays to 15,000 people, you might expect to get a little something. you'd be wrong. (the reason i mention this is because it's supposed to be ASCAP's job to see to it that we get paid.)
the other day, i saw an Apple II at the thrift store, although it was probably serial number 2305820548268KCW#ER#@3, so it was probably a good thing that i didn't spend $10 on it. 'Lord knows i need more crap.
if someone wanted to, couldn't they just download the appropriate forms from some website and register the term "Open Source Software" now that it's been dropped?
now, what's to keep SPI from filing for trademark, again?
simliarly, doesn't "OSS" potentially face the same problem that "Linux" did, in that someone else could register and attempt to extort money from people?
what the hell are you talking about? i can assure you that, as a member of ASCAP (American Society of Composers and Publishers.. check any CD you own), you certainly need more than to say "XYZ is my copyright" for it to be an actual copyright. simliarly, you need to do more than say "XYZ is my trademark," in order that you own XYZ as a trademark.
i think that you can go to Microsoft's site and you have the option of downloading IE for UNIX. when you click on it, it says it's still in development and to be on the lookout for it, soon.
yeah, i got the product name wrong. do you remember the program that that 16 year old from Canada was doing? the one based on that guy from Berkeley's thesis or multiple OS implimentation with a single processor? yeah, well that's the project i'm refering to.
i never meant to imply that they were scam artists. i just thought that they were some fanciful dreamers who might have had a good idea, but whether or not the actual product was to come into existance remained a question (remember Freedos, or Fritors.. whatever it was called?). anyway, all i was saying was that they've done a really bad job or marketing..
the company's page at zipaudio.com doesn't even highlight the fact that they've supposedly made a new breakthrough product worth hundreds of millions. it's no where on the index. if you click on "MP3 Hardware," you'll find out about their revolutionary idea. again, crappy marketing.
any product with a homepage this poor, you should be weary of. they're running their page off some ISP, which doesn't speak to highly of them. how can a company afford to pay the R&D for a portable MP3 player and not have at least their own web address? also, their page is fucking horrible. it was automatically generated with Netscape's editor.
anyway, all i'm saying is don't be surprised if this thing doesn't actually turn up in the market. it sounds kind of sketchy to me.
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werd. give me analog over digital any day of the week, including Sunday.
it's like with synthesizers, the difference between the Moog and the Rave-O-Lution. the Moog was and is completely analog, wheras the Rave is digital. the Rave-O-Lution comes with a complete set of digital waveforms that replicate the sound of the MiniMoog, but if you play the two side-by-side (i have), the MiniMoog just completely destroys it, because with the MiniMoog, you're hear a the current hit the oscilator and blah blah blah until you get a thick, fat crunch out the other end. but with the Rave, the Moog just comes out sounding hollow and empty, because it's just a bunch of 1's and 0's representing the beautiful Moog.
oh, how i love my Moog.
well, in the case that the album has been re-issued, then it's back to where i was before. the record company people need to pay their people (and make an enormous profit), and royalties still need to be paid.
on a pressing run of about 10,000 CDs, you would expect to pay around $.20 for each CD, and then maybe $.40 for packaging.
i agree that CD prices are outragous, but you can't reasonably expect that music companies sell CDs at cost. they are huge, bloated and bureaucratic institutions with lots of cronies to pay. and with a lot of crappy bands, there are too many royalties to be dolled out. some of the more talentless bunches must hire songwriters (read:N'Sync, etc) to write that crap. those song writers collect.
truthfully, a band like N'Sync doesn't make that much money of their CD sales. most of that money is dealt out to the studio musicians (who get paid obscene amounts of money), the label and every other Joe who can stake a bit of claim. their big (and it is big) money comes from touring and merchandise bearing their likeness.
remember, when you buy a major label CD, you're paying for that lawyer who sent you the "cease and desist" order. there are two easy ways to avoid major label crap; buy used - as long as you're willing to wait a few months until someone tires of the new Beck CD and decides to rid themselves of it, then you should be okay. or, just buy independent. that's where the most interesting music of the last ten years has come from, anyway.
obviously, we're not a cover band, or we would not have been invited on tour.
it doesn't matter to us. we made our money independently of ASCAP beforehand, and we continued afterwards. we are hobbyists, anyway.
i can assure you that they really do suck. my band was invited onto some of the dates for the Warped Tour last year, and needless to say, we were excited. until we learned that we had to join ASCAP. at first, i thought it was some kind of shady racket to shake down musicians. instead, it turns out it's a shady racket to shake down their fans.
the ASCAP monthly newsletter is delivered monthly to my house. as of late, seemingly the sole focus of the magazine has been MP3 and how it threatens the music industry. last month, there was an extensive article on how bands and labels can attack fan sites.
i guess that, were we being sued, or was my band getting actual radio airplay, ASCAP fight be slightly helpful, but i even doubt that.
it's also worth pointing out that we were NEVER paid for our Warp Tour dates. it's normal to get little or nothing playing a small club to 50 people, but when your band plays to 15,000 people, you might expect to get a little something. you'd be wrong. (the reason i mention this is because it's supposed to be ASCAP's job to see to it that we get paid.)
the other day, i saw an Apple II at the thrift store, although it was probably serial number 2305820548268KCW#ER#@3, so it was probably a good thing that i didn't spend $10 on it. 'Lord knows i need more crap.
if someone wanted to, couldn't they just download the appropriate forms from some website and register the term "Open Source Software" now that it's been dropped?
now, what's to keep SPI from filing for trademark, again?
simliarly, doesn't "OSS" potentially face the same problem that "Linux" did, in that someone else could register and attempt to extort money from people?
what the hell are you talking about? i can assure you that, as a member of ASCAP (American Society of Composers and Publishers.. check any CD you own), you certainly need more than to say "XYZ is my copyright" for it to be an actual copyright. simliarly, you need to do more than say "XYZ is my trademark," in order that you own XYZ as a trademark.
Multitrack is available at:
c k/multitrack.html
http://rulhmpc38.leidenuniv.nl/private/multitra
MIDI and buttloads of other Linux music software is available at:
http://sound.condorow.net/
this is by far the most thorough collection of Linux (and UNIX in general) music programs, so it's highly recommended.
if Debian has a new logo, why am i still looking at the same old one on my icon bar?
:)
Microsoft's page..
it's at the bottom..
i think that you can go to Microsoft's site and you have the option of downloading IE for UNIX. when you click on it, it says it's still in development and to be on the lookout for it, soon.
am i the only one who noticed that a remarkable similar article was posted here BEFORE?
yeah, i got the product name wrong. do you remember the program that that 16 year old from Canada was doing? the one based on that guy from Berkeley's thesis or multiple OS implimentation with a single processor? yeah, well that's the project i'm refering to.
i never meant to imply that they were scam artists. i just thought that they were some fanciful dreamers who might have had a good idea, but whether or not the actual product was to come into existance remained a question (remember Freedos, or Fritors.. whatever it was called?). anyway, all i was saying was that they've done a really bad job or marketing..
the company's page at zipaudio.com doesn't even highlight the fact that they've supposedly made a new breakthrough product worth hundreds of millions. it's no where on the index. if you click on "MP3 Hardware," you'll find out about their revolutionary idea. again, crappy marketing.
any product with a homepage this poor, you should be weary of. they're running their page off some ISP, which doesn't speak to highly of them. how can a company afford to pay the R&D for a portable MP3 player and not have at least their own web address? also, their page is fucking horrible. it was automatically generated with Netscape's editor.
anyway, all i'm saying is don't be surprised if this thing doesn't actually turn up in the market. it sounds kind of sketchy to me.