Language and meaning is always changing. Apprently the everyday usage of the word (as it relates to computer science) has already changed beyond what you apparently think it means.
The way you use the word, it quickly loses its meaning. (Linux is an emulator, XFree86 is an emulator, Samba is an emulator, telnet is an emulator, etc.)
If they meet the definition, then why not call them that?
But the basic truth is that WINE is an emulator, and no amount of denial (on the part of anyone, including it's developers) is going to change that fact:-) It imitates certain functionality of Windows (namely, it's API) and thus qualifies as an emulator.
But if you don't have 3D drivers installed properly it's going to affect both native and emulated games, so your efforts, though understandably frustrating, don't apply to this argument really.
Having said that, have you got 3D up and running on your system?
Wine Is Not an Emulator! It doesn't emulate Windows at all, it just reimplements the Windows libraries and runs it *natively*
emulate
1.To strive to equal or excel, especially through imitation: an older pupil whose accomplishments and style I emulated.
2.To compete with successfully; approach or attain equality with. See Synonyms at rival.
3.Computer Science. To imitate the function of (another system), as by modifications to hardware or software that allow the imitating system to accept the same data, execute the same programs, and achieve the same results as the imitated system.
Why is it out of line? It's true. In fact, it's true about both RMS and ESR (though for different reasons). RMS is way too militant in his beliefs, and though he has every right to be, that's not the kind of person most people want to speak on their behalf (IMHO).
This doesn't change the fact that the manager told him to "drop everything". If the manager didn't want him to drop everything, he should have told him to.
Then I'm a bigger expert since my first installation was 8 years ago at the age of 13. And I say the linux crowd aren't role-players in general, dumbass.
Tim Sweeney of Epic Megagames (Unreal, UT), has said as much..."OpenGL...blahblahblah...is obsolete"
What an incredible misquote. Tim turned around and hired Daniel Vogel, the guy who wrote an amazin OpenGL renderer for UT under Linux. Epic has not abandoned OpenGL specifically because of it's cross platform availability.
Besides, if you've ever run UT using this OpenGL renderer, and compare it to the D3D one, you'll never want to play the game in D3D again.
But reducing memory footprint obviously wasn't the whole point of the challenge. The point of the challenge was to make a fool of whoever accepted it. In the end, it's Mike who looks like the fool.
and so including their size is consistent
with the agreed upon rules, IMO.
Why? Mike didn't say that the total files had to take up less room on disk, just that their total file size had to be less. Total the file sizes and what do you find? It's less than the file size of the original file. Patric fulfilled the requirement. Period.
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Have you actually looked at the dictionary definition of "emulate," even as it relates to computer science? Obviously not.
Dinivin
Language and meaning is always changing. Apprently the everyday usage of the word (as it relates to computer science) has already changed beyond what you apparently think it means.
Dinivin
So? Where does it say that emulation == a decrease in speed?
Dinivin
The way you use the word, it quickly loses its meaning. (Linux is an emulator, XFree86 is an emulator, Samba is an emulator, telnet is an emulator, etc.)
If they meet the definition, then why not call them that?
Dinivin
You're the one denying that the Wine emulates the Windows API.
Dinivin
Drop me an e-mail: dinivin@hotmail.com
I've diagnosed a lot of problems for other people.
Dinivin
But the basic truth is that WINE is an emulator, and no amount of denial (on the part of anyone, including it's developers) is going to change that fact :-) It imitates certain functionality of Windows (namely, it's API) and thus qualifies as an emulator.
Dinivin
But if you don't have 3D drivers installed properly it's going to affect both native and emulated games, so your efforts, though understandably frustrating, don't apply to this argument really.
Having said that, have you got 3D up and running on your system?
Dinivin
Wine really *doesn't* emulate Windows at all. It emulates the API,
And:
These won't work properly, because Wine Is Not an Emulator.
Which is it? First you say it is an emulator, then you say it isn't.
WINE imitates the funcationality of the Windows API. According to the definition give, that makes it an emulator.
Dinivin
Look up "emulate" in the dictionary and then try to tell me with a straight face that Wine doesn't qualify.
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(of, if you'd rather: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=01/05/08/1792
I can call myself not-gay, but that doesn't mean I'm not gay.
Dinivin
emulate
1.To strive to equal or excel, especially through imitation: an older pupil whose accomplishments and style I emulated.
2.To compete with successfully; approach or attain equality with. See Synonyms at rival.
3.Computer Science. To imitate the function of (another system), as by modifications to hardware or software that allow the imitating system to accept the same data, execute the same programs, and achieve the same results as the imitated system.
Sure sounds like an emulator to me.
Dinivin
Does anyone else agree with me, excepting Jon?
Apparently Not.
Dinivin
It sounds like this movie has more in common with Starship Troopers though
It has nothing in common with Starship Troopers. This is actually a good movie.
Dinivin
These movies were all bad,
Well, aside from Starship Troopers, you're wrong. But that's OK.
Dinivin
The original poster never said RMS was a total loon, just that he sounds like one.
Dinivin
Why is it out of line? It's true. In fact, it's true about both RMS and ESR (though for different reasons). RMS is way too militant in his beliefs, and though he has every right to be, that's not the kind of person most people want to speak on their behalf (IMHO).
Dinivin
This doesn't change the fact that the manager told him to "drop everything". If the manager didn't want him to drop everything, he should have told him to.
Dinivin
You know wrong... Reiser most certainly supports root file systems. Even
Dinivin
See, fishsticks ain't software.
Which is precisely why your analogy falls flat. You are comparing Apples to Oranges.
Dinivin
Then I'm a bigger expert since my first installation was 8 years ago at the age of 13. And I say the linux crowd aren't role-players in general, dumbass.
Dinivin
Tim Sweeney of Epic Megagames (Unreal, UT), has said as much..."OpenGL...blahblahblah...is obsolete"
What an incredible misquote. Tim turned around and hired Daniel Vogel, the guy who wrote an amazin OpenGL renderer for UT under Linux. Epic has not abandoned OpenGL specifically because of it's cross platform availability.
Besides, if you've ever run UT using this OpenGL renderer, and compare it to the D3D one, you'll never want to play the game in D3D again.
Dinivin
You're entire rant was about proofreading... Something you still haven't mastered, apparently.
Dinivin
But reducing memory footprint obviously wasn't the whole point of the challenge. The point of the challenge was to make a fool of whoever accepted it. In the end, it's Mike who looks like the fool.
Dinivin
And you know this how?
Dinivin
and so including their size is consistent with the agreed upon rules, IMO.
Why? Mike didn't say that the total files had to take up less room on disk, just that their total file size had to be less. Total the file sizes and what do you find? It's less than the file size of the original file. Patric fulfilled the requirement. Period.
Dinivin