In a word, limiting software distribution, in any form, makes said software non-free.
If that were true then anything under the GPL would be non-free:-)
Dinivin
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I think saying "the GPL is coercing me to be free" is much more like saying "You have the right to free speech as long as you don't speak against the right to free speach."
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If he made us all look like Fruitcakes, he wouldn't get the invitations
he gets. We both lectured at Cambridge (the one in England) a few months ago.
That could just as easily mean that you were both invited by fruitcakes:-)
Some of us don't believe the same legal interpretation of the GPL as Stallman. Frankly, linking to GPLed code, IMO, is not the same as a creating "derivative work," and with any luck that's exactly what a court would rule.
So, if you're ever in a position where you could die unless someone intervenes to save you, we should all just turn away because you were too stupid to avoid taht situation?
10 years, and only 1% of all users have found out how to do something proper with it.
What do you define as proper?
Frankly, I'd be more disturbed by the fact that indoor plumbing as been around for hundreds (thousands, really) of years, but millions of people (if not billions of people) still don't have that simple "luxury." Or that we've been able to control the flow of electricty for centuries, but billions of people still don't seen to have that simple luxury, either. Maybe we should worry about getting people up to the basics before we start worrying about the fact that so few people have found a proper use of the world wide web.
Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree:-) This thread is not getting long and tedious, and I'm sure we both have better things to do with our time.:-)
The definition you gave clearly says "hardware or software that permits programs written for one computer to be run on another usually newer computer".
Dos was written for x86. dosemu runs on x86. I don't need dosemu to run dos apps on my computer. Hence, according to this definition, dosemu is *not* an emulator.
Well, according to that, dosemu doesn't even qualify as an emulator. Frankly, I think that's one that we can throw out the window.
BTW, having studied linguistics, and having used the American Collegiate Dictionary for those courses, I'm well aware of the process they use in selecting definitions. Open up a copy and take a look at the list of people on the committee.
You might want to change the subject. Or at the very least, read it.;^)
I'm well aware of what it says. And as it pertains to native linux games versus windows games under Linux, it's true.
The real point is whether native code is necessarily faster than Wine, and
because Wine does not emulate every aspect of the target system, this is not the case.
I never said it emulates every aspect, I simply said it emulates part of Windows. Hence, it's an emulator.
he real point isn't semantic quibblings over a single dictionary definition of emulation that clearly hasn't been thought through (since it defines as emulators many things
that would generally be agreed not to be emulators, including drivers, Linux and Bruce Willis).
Having taken numerous linguistics courses in college, I'm well aware how language changes. My advice to those still in denial: Get over it!
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If you write GPL software and release the source people can do whatever the hell they want with it.
Obviously you haven't read the new GPL faq, because that's definately not the case.
Dinivin
In a word, limiting software distribution, in any form, makes said software non-free.
:-)
If that were true then anything under the GPL would be non-free
Dinivin
I think saying "the GPL is coercing me to be free" is much more like saying "You have the right to free speech as long as you don't speak against the right to free speach."
Dinivin
If he made us all look like Fruitcakes, he wouldn't get the invitations he gets. We both lectured at Cambridge (the one in England) a few months ago.
:-)
That could just as easily mean that you were both invited by fruitcakes
Dinivin
Some of us don't believe the same legal interpretation of the GPL as Stallman. Frankly, linking to GPLed code, IMO, is not the same as a creating "derivative work," and with any luck that's exactly what a court would rule.
Dinivin
And you have some way to back up this assertation?
I guess the real question is whether or not the code in question can "be reasonably considered independent and separate works."
Have you looked at Vidomi's non-GPLed code in question to confirm that it's using GPLed code?
Dinivin
Cajuns don't speak French...ask any Frenchman.
Ummm... I never said they did speak French, now did I?
Dinivin
I agree... It was extrememly arrogant of Michael to say that Tauzin has forgotten that he lives in the U.S.
Heaven forbid we should acknowledge that there are speakers of other languages in the US.
Dinivin
So, if you're ever in a position where you could die unless someone intervenes to save you, we should all just turn away because you were too stupid to avoid taht situation?
Dinivin
10 years, and only 1% of all users have found out how to do something proper with it.
What do you define as proper?
Frankly, I'd be more disturbed by the fact that indoor plumbing as been around for hundreds (thousands, really) of years, but millions of people (if not billions of people) still don't have that simple "luxury." Or that we've been able to control the flow of electricty for centuries, but billions of people still don't seen to have that simple luxury, either. Maybe we should worry about getting people up to the basics before we start worrying about the fact that so few people have found a proper use of the world wide web.
Dinivin
transgressions? They're crimes. Period.
Dinivin
They supposed to educate children, not raise them.
Dinivin
The principal doesn't deserve blame for suspending the kid. He didn't do anything wrong.
Dinivin
Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree
Dinivin
So? The definition doesn't say you wouldn't otherwise be able to run the application.
Dinivin
However, wine still allows a program written for one computer to be run on another usually new computer.
Someone can write a program in Windows on their machine and wine will let me run it on mine.
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Dosemu only runs on x86. In other words, it won't permit a program to run on a computer that it can't already run on. How is this different than wine?
But you're right about continuing. You obviously refuse to admit that you're wrong.
Dinivin
Given your definition and explanation:
Doesn't wine "permit programs written for one computer to be run on another usually newer computer?"
I think it does
Dinivin
I guess chicks dig him.
:-)
Some guys do too
Dinivin
What!?!
The definition you gave clearly says "hardware or software that permits programs written for one computer to be run on another usually newer computer".
Dos was written for x86. dosemu runs on x86. I don't need dosemu to run dos apps on my computer. Hence, according to this definition, dosemu is *not* an emulator.
Dinivin
Well, according to that, dosemu doesn't even qualify as an emulator. Frankly, I think that's one that we can throw out the window.
BTW, having studied linguistics, and having used the American Collegiate Dictionary for those courses, I'm well aware of the process they use in selecting definitions. Open up a copy and take a look at the list of people on the committee.
Dinivin
Maybe you should do a little reasearch into the dictionary and how it makes its decisions before you claim they're wrong.
Dinivin
The definition came from the American Heritage Dictionary, a highly reputable source.
Dinivin
You might want to change the subject. Or at the very least, read it. ;^)
I'm well aware of what it says. And as it pertains to native linux games versus windows games under Linux, it's true.
The real point is whether native code is necessarily faster than Wine, and because Wine does not emulate every aspect of the target system, this is not the case.
I never said it emulates every aspect, I simply said it emulates part of Windows. Hence, it's an emulator.
he real point isn't semantic quibblings over a single dictionary definition of emulation that clearly hasn't been thought through (since it defines as emulators many things that would generally be agreed not to be emulators, including drivers, Linux and Bruce Willis).
Having taken numerous linguistics courses in college, I'm well aware how language changes. My advice to those still in denial: Get over it!
Dinivin
I guess you didn't see the definition that I posted earlier in this thread from dictionary.com Dinivin