if you don't vote, you reward the corrupt plutocracy. alienated and self-disenfranchised losers like yourself is what they DEPEND on happening, einstein, they put out propaganda and make political moves they KNOW will make zero heart, low iq fuckups like yourself wallow in self-pity and helplessness and withdraw from society. because you are WEAK and they know it
this is you, psychologically, and all other pathetic loser who rationalizes not voting:
Summary
In the learned helplessness experiment an animal is repeatedly hurt by an adverse stimulus which it cannot escape.
Eventually the animal will stop trying to avoid the pain and behave as if it is utterly helpless to change the situation.
Finally, when opportunities to escape are presented, this learned helplessness prevents any action. The only coping mechanism the animal uses is to be stoical and put up with the discomfort, not expending energy getting worked up about the adverse stimulus.
what deranged bullshit rationalization you have too: "I don't vote and I encourage everyone to not vote. When voter turn out is under 10% then perhaps you thick, dim-witted motherfuckers can finally pull your heads out of your ass and help us make a democracy that works and actually represents us."
what!? LOL
"i won't play with you, and that will force you to change your policies because you want me to play with you"
this is what you really believe?!
NO, RETARD: what happens is the plutocracy laughs even harder all the way to the bank: you've bowed down and submitted to them meekly and completely! they don't fucking care about you, they will never care about you, they are glad you won't participate and fight for beliefs, they depend upon your weakness! fight for what you believe, or roll over. you choose to roll over, with this bullshit low iq zero social skillset rationalization. fucking pathetic!
seriously, you and other self-disenfranchised morons to me represent the lowest scum of the earth. at least the plutocracy is evil. at least they honestly stand for something vile that you can fight. pathetic losers like you just represent zero willpower, complete cowardice, and utter lack of any human spirit or desire to fight for themselves. a fungal growth of useless loserville. you have done nothing but be deserving of zero respect. a perfect, meek, self-disenfranchising slave
a country of free people requires a country of people willing to fight for themselves. for not fighting for your beliefs, you represent the end of a free society. i cannot adequately express how much i disrespect and loathe your thinking, because your thinking and bullshit rationalizations represents the end of free society
what do you want? revolution? do you know how bloody and how much suffering there is in that? do you know no one is in charge of who comes out on the other end?
the idea is to cure the patient. every system that ever existed, and ever will, has corruption. the point is to MINIMIZE it. it is a constant effort that never ends and never will end. but you point to our corruption and you say "this is a reason i will never contribute"
let's put it this way: those of us fighting the good fight to keep democracy working understand the powers we are allayed against: menace and greed. i understand them, i can fight them
what i can't understand, and can't fight, is loud ignorant losers like yourself who simply give up and give into fantasy ideas that are worse than the reality we find ourselves in
furthermore, those who are corrupt and corrupting, DEPEND upon the existence of cowardice like yours, to give up at the slightest whiff of difficulty. the devil shows his face and you just give up and peg your hopes on hollywood movie scenarios. pathetic
your attitude AIDS what you hate. you're part of the problem
Smart phones are replacing your desktop, GPS, wallet, voting machine, library, personal assistant, etc.
It will get to the point wherr governments will supplement phones for the economic all ly disadvantaged, such as they are becoming de rigeur for membership in modern society
What you are asking for is like asking for a PC that only plays Pong
you have real influence in a real democracy. that democracy is threatened by forces, mainly corrupting plutocracy. but they WIN dumbass, if assholes like you give up the fight at the slightest hint of provocation!
you think like the perfect slave: "all the power is aligned against me and i have chance"
next comes: "my only choice is to give up like a good little robot and do my work"
go ahead, think like a slave. you will excuse me if i and others who know we have power, exercise it
no you should be punished for calling someone a dumbass. yes you should get punished for asking your penis to be sucked or the employee loses her job
get it einstein?
power, and sex. it is a real combination, and it used by men to extract what they want from women in bad positions. this is reality. do you understand?
" I'm not saying they don't exist but saying all women have faced these issues is absolutely absurd."
every single woman has a story to tell, or multiple stories, of a man who has attempted to extort sexual favors from them. wake up!
11. Don't vote, thereby assuring the guy you like least wins
If a frw more assholes had gotten off their asses in 2000 and voted, we would not have invaded iraq and we would not have a horrible deficit. al gore is not g w bush. and if you think they are the same person, or that their parties are the same, you really are a giant fucking moron
Your comment written by someone with no grasp of the history of technology. There's folks reading your words who remember reading and storing files from cassette tapes in the 1980s. Like me.
"approved by someone with even less of a grasp on reality"
Story approved by someone with an appreciation that the geekiest novel solutions to problems are things unimaginative people would never consider seriously until forced to, because everyone else is enthusing about how cool it is. Let your mind wander into crazy scenarios and impossible what-ifs. Or butt out. Because some people come to Slashdot for exactly this talk on just this topic of the way-out-there.
"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway." - Andrew Tanenbaum, 1996, Computer Network
"Verbal statements, directed towards anyone, or simply overheard is not abuse."
"touch my junk or your fired"
"let me give you a bank rub or i don't think we'll be hiring you"
"if you want to meet potential employers at DEFCON, you'll have to have your ass grabbed and listen to neanderthals make ugly remarks at you"
if i were a woman faced with these scenarios, the way i would deal with it, on my own (that seems important to you somehow, as if society can't or should not protect her?), is to complain, sue, make noise and otherwise force the ABUSIVE asshole into contrition or punishment
you have a problem with that? yeah, you do. then go whine about it. you're good at it. but you're going to have to buck up and deal with: all women have stories about workplace or social scenario power being twisted into requests for sexual favors by douchebags. you say about that: "Verbal statements, directed towards anyone, or simply overheard is not abuse." that makes your understanding about what women face pretty fucking stupid. you are basically utterly clueless about what actually goes on in the real world. try to grow up and understand
"While those defining the limits of 'freedom' get to set them however they want, right?"
here's a good definition:
"Your right to swing your arms ends just where the other man's nose begins."
or, in the context of this subject, touch a woman without her permission, and she's going to complain, and the rest of society is going to nab your ass for you not respecting HER freedom
sorry if this is too much of a communist fascist feminazi agenda for you. most of us think it as simple respect you learn in kindergarten. but "kindergarten" sounds like a foreign word doesn't it? form europe maybe, where they have socialism? hmmm...
rapey mcrapester. in your mind, is not actually trying to rape, which has been around since before we were homo sapiens, no, in your view rapey mcrapester got the idea from japanese cartoons
so, in your opinion, if a douchebag is trapped in an alley with a gun and decides to shoot his way out, it's because he saw this on cartoon network. and if a guy decides to vomit on the casino floor, it's not because he's sick, it's because he watched the hang over too much
hey, genius, here's a wacky idea: maybe someone expressing an interest in rape, is almost a RAPIST
sorry if that's too bold for you. occam's razor and all that: when you hear hoofbeats, think horse rapist, not horse rape cosplay character
that's not what MightyMartian said. he said "if you were dragged into my office over unbecoming behavior of a coworker of the opposite sex and threw the load of bullshit you just typed as your justification". in that context, you should have your ass fired, and go ahead with your wrongful termination lawsuit, as you will lose
the problem is douchebags groping women who actually believe that telling them to stop groping women is some form of political correctness. what you wrote is the kind of thing groping douchebags will use in their defense
the problem is you think your little whiny attitude about political correctness is valid in the context of this discussion. this discussion is about real women being sexually assaulted and verbally harassed. that's REAL. do you understand that? if you do, take yourself and the chip on your shoulder and fuck off. wrong discussion, genius
"My point is if you extend sexual harassment to be illegal everywhere you can effectively never attempt to have sexual congress."
no, apparently you do not understand the idea of consent
"I am saying that as mammals you do have to expect that in social situations people will make advances of a sexual nature, the instinct to breed is pretty well ingrained."
'i gronk, have penis, i grope you, hurrr durr snort'
you're pretty much an ignorant douchebag. learn the concepts of respect and consent, which most of us learn in kindergarten. thanks
anyone actually in the rape fantasy subculture has a pretty clear understanding of the boundary between pretend play and real life. the idea that you think some douchebag threatening rape to a woman is part of an expression of subculture is either 1. hilarious at how stupid you are in the excuse making department, or 2. frightening about how deluded you are at the boundaries between dealing with real people in real life social contexts and consensual fantasy play. rape fantasy subculture participants clearly get it. you clearly do not
the whole problem being discussed in this thread is men unable to think of women as fellow equal human beings and can only think of them as a pair of tits and ass. that would be you, douchebag, if you are serious. if you are trolling us: congratulations, you have the appearance of the words of a sexist asshole well faked
"I would say that we need to promote Defcon and the community absolutely and never blame the community for the behavior of members of the community."
congratulations, consider yourself hired at the department of illogical nonsense doublespeak
you can barely keep actual legislators focused on the task
and there is something like only 2-3% of the population who is interested in the issues and voting on them. 10% of that 2-3% is actually educated on the issues too. think about it
there are a lot of problem with representative democracy. but when compared to direct democracy, it's actually better. the people are fine with the idea of picking someone to represent their interests. of course, those representatives can be corrupted and frequently are. so work on that problem, rather than introduce a whole new set of worse problems with direct democracy
the vast majority don't have the time, interest, inclination, or education to vote constructively. if you made voting compulsory, you would have joke votes
the best virtual democracy can do is make representative democracy more fluid and transparent. work on that
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http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3045075&cid=40973323
if you can't tell the difference between the candidates, this says more about you than the candidates
MOTHRA!!!!!!
if you don't vote, you reward the corrupt plutocracy. alienated and self-disenfranchised losers like yourself is what they DEPEND on happening, einstein, they put out propaganda and make political moves they KNOW will make zero heart, low iq fuckups like yourself wallow in self-pity and helplessness and withdraw from society. because you are WEAK and they know it
this is you, psychologically, and all other pathetic loser who rationalizes not voting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness
THAT IS YOU PSYCHOLOGICALLY. KNOW THYSELF, LOSER
what deranged bullshit rationalization you have too: "I don't vote and I encourage everyone to not vote. When voter turn out is under 10% then perhaps you thick, dim-witted motherfuckers can finally pull your heads out of your ass and help us make a democracy that works and actually represents us."
what!? LOL
"i won't play with you, and that will force you to change your policies because you want me to play with you"
this is what you really believe?!
NO, RETARD: what happens is the plutocracy laughs even harder all the way to the bank: you've bowed down and submitted to them meekly and completely! they don't fucking care about you, they will never care about you, they are glad you won't participate and fight for beliefs, they depend upon your weakness! fight for what you believe, or roll over. you choose to roll over, with this bullshit low iq zero social skillset rationalization. fucking pathetic!
seriously, you and other self-disenfranchised morons to me represent the lowest scum of the earth. at least the plutocracy is evil. at least they honestly stand for something vile that you can fight. pathetic losers like you just represent zero willpower, complete cowardice, and utter lack of any human spirit or desire to fight for themselves. a fungal growth of useless loserville. you have done nothing but be deserving of zero respect. a perfect, meek, self-disenfranchising slave
a country of free people requires a country of people willing to fight for themselves. for not fighting for your beliefs, you represent the end of a free society. i cannot adequately express how much i disrespect and loathe your thinking, because your thinking and bullshit rationalizations represents the end of free society
(also article is a little too breathlessly enamored of apple: PR astroturf?)
right
only you are the real victim
wow
so you want to cherry pick scenarios rather than simply admit a common and serious problem?
you really do have issues. really. you have a chip on your shoulder, you view yourself as the victim, perpetually. you're at the gateway of madness
what do you want? revolution? do you know how bloody and how much suffering there is in that? do you know no one is in charge of who comes out on the other end?
the idea is to cure the patient. every system that ever existed, and ever will, has corruption. the point is to MINIMIZE it. it is a constant effort that never ends and never will end. but you point to our corruption and you say "this is a reason i will never contribute"
let's put it this way: those of us fighting the good fight to keep democracy working understand the powers we are allayed against: menace and greed. i understand them, i can fight them
what i can't understand, and can't fight, is loud ignorant losers like yourself who simply give up and give into fantasy ideas that are worse than the reality we find ourselves in
furthermore, those who are corrupt and corrupting, DEPEND upon the existence of cowardice like yours, to give up at the slightest whiff of difficulty. the devil shows his face and you just give up and peg your hopes on hollywood movie scenarios. pathetic
your attitude AIDS what you hate. you're part of the problem
take a picture?
Smart phones are replacing your desktop, GPS, wallet, voting machine, library, personal assistant, etc.
It will get to the point wherr governments will supplement phones for the economic all ly disadvantaged, such as they are becoming de rigeur for membership in modern society
What you are asking for is like asking for a PC that only plays Pong
mod parent up ;-)
you have real influence in a real democracy. that democracy is threatened by forces, mainly corrupting plutocracy. but they WIN dumbass, if assholes like you give up the fight at the slightest hint of provocation!
you think like the perfect slave: "all the power is aligned against me and i have chance"
next comes: "my only choice is to give up like a good little robot and do my work"
go ahead, think like a slave. you will excuse me if i and others who know we have power, exercise it
what a fucking pathetic loser
no you should be punished for calling someone a dumbass. yes you should get punished for asking your penis to be sucked or the employee loses her job
get it einstein?
power, and sex. it is a real combination, and it used by men to extract what they want from women in bad positions. this is reality. do you understand?
" I'm not saying they don't exist but saying all women have faced these issues is absolutely absurd."
every single woman has a story to tell, or multiple stories, of a man who has attempted to extort sexual favors from them. wake up!
You forgot:
11. Don't vote, thereby assuring the guy you like least wins
If a frw more assholes had gotten off their asses in 2000 and voted, we would not have invaded iraq and we would not have a horrible deficit. al gore is not g w bush. and if you think they are the same person, or that their parties are the same, you really are a giant fucking moron
"Written by someone with no grasp of technology"
Your comment written by someone with no grasp of the history of technology. There's folks reading your words who remember reading and storing files from cassette tapes in the 1980s. Like me.
"approved by someone with even less of a grasp on reality"
Story approved by someone with an appreciation that the geekiest novel solutions to problems are things unimaginative people would never consider seriously until forced to, because everyone else is enthusing about how cool it is. Let your mind wander into crazy scenarios and impossible what-ifs. Or butt out. Because some people come to Slashdot for exactly this talk on just this topic of the way-out-there.
"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway." - Andrew Tanenbaum, 1996, Computer Network
you're being whiny again
"Verbal statements, directed towards anyone, or simply overheard is not abuse."
"touch my junk or your fired"
"let me give you a bank rub or i don't think we'll be hiring you"
"if you want to meet potential employers at DEFCON, you'll have to have your ass grabbed and listen to neanderthals make ugly remarks at you"
if i were a woman faced with these scenarios, the way i would deal with it, on my own (that seems important to you somehow, as if society can't or should not protect her?), is to complain, sue, make noise and otherwise force the ABUSIVE asshole into contrition or punishment
you have a problem with that? yeah, you do. then go whine about it. you're good at it. but you're going to have to buck up and deal with: all women have stories about workplace or social scenario power being twisted into requests for sexual favors by douchebags. you say about that: "Verbal statements, directed towards anyone, or simply overheard is not abuse." that makes your understanding about what women face pretty fucking stupid. you are basically utterly clueless about what actually goes on in the real world. try to grow up and understand
"While those defining the limits of 'freedom' get to set them however they want, right?"
here's a good definition:
"Your right to swing your arms ends just where the other man's nose begins."
or, in the context of this subject, touch a woman without her permission, and she's going to complain, and the rest of society is going to nab your ass for you not respecting HER freedom
sorry if this is too much of a communist fascist feminazi agenda for you. most of us think it as simple respect you learn in kindergarten. but "kindergarten" sounds like a foreign word doesn't it? form europe maybe, where they have socialism? hmmm...
rapey mcrapester. in your mind, is not actually trying to rape, which has been around since before we were homo sapiens, no, in your view rapey mcrapester got the idea from japanese cartoons
so, in your opinion, if a douchebag is trapped in an alley with a gun and decides to shoot his way out, it's because he saw this on cartoon network. and if a guy decides to vomit on the casino floor, it's not because he's sick, it's because he watched the hang over too much
hey, genius, here's a wacky idea: maybe someone expressing an interest in rape, is almost a RAPIST
sorry if that's too bold for you. occam's razor and all that: when you hear hoofbeats, think horse rapist, not horse rape cosplay character
that's not what MightyMartian said. he said "if you were dragged into my office over unbecoming behavior of a coworker of the opposite sex and threw the load of bullshit you just typed as your justification". in that context, you should have your ass fired, and go ahead with your wrongful termination lawsuit, as you will lose
the problem is douchebags groping women who actually believe that telling them to stop groping women is some form of political correctness. what you wrote is the kind of thing groping douchebags will use in their defense
the problem is you think your little whiny attitude about political correctness is valid in the context of this discussion. this discussion is about real women being sexually assaulted and verbally harassed. that's REAL. do you understand that? if you do, take yourself and the chip on your shoulder and fuck off. wrong discussion, genius
treating others with basic respect is communism
got it
you're probably the type of douchebag who thinks the definition of freedom means you can do whatever the hell you want without regard to consequences
good luck growing up kid
do you understand the fucking concept?
"My point is if you extend sexual harassment to be illegal everywhere you can effectively never attempt to have sexual congress."
no, apparently you do not understand the idea of consent
"I am saying that as mammals you do have to expect that in social situations people will make advances of a sexual nature, the instinct to breed is pretty well ingrained."
'i gronk, have penis, i grope you, hurrr durr snort'
you're pretty much an ignorant douchebag. learn the concepts of respect and consent, which most of us learn in kindergarten. thanks
anyone actually in the rape fantasy subculture has a pretty clear understanding of the boundary between pretend play and real life. the idea that you think some douchebag threatening rape to a woman is part of an expression of subculture is either 1. hilarious at how stupid you are in the excuse making department, or 2. frightening about how deluded you are at the boundaries between dealing with real people in real life social contexts and consensual fantasy play. rape fantasy subculture participants clearly get it. you clearly do not
then read about the MULTIPLE accounts of sexual assault again
thanks
"A lot of these women are out of their element"
the whole problem being discussed in this thread is men unable to think of women as fellow equal human beings and can only think of them as a pair of tits and ass. that would be you, douchebag, if you are serious. if you are trolling us: congratulations, you have the appearance of the words of a sexist asshole well faked
"I would say that we need to promote Defcon and the community absolutely and never blame the community for the behavior of members of the community."
congratulations, consider yourself hired at the department of illogical nonsense doublespeak
you can barely keep actual legislators focused on the task
and there is something like only 2-3% of the population who is interested in the issues and voting on them. 10% of that 2-3% is actually educated on the issues too. think about it
there are a lot of problem with representative democracy. but when compared to direct democracy, it's actually better. the people are fine with the idea of picking someone to represent their interests. of course, those representatives can be corrupted and frequently are. so work on that problem, rather than introduce a whole new set of worse problems with direct democracy
the vast majority don't have the time, interest, inclination, or education to vote constructively. if you made voting compulsory, you would have joke votes
the best virtual democracy can do is make representative democracy more fluid and transparent. work on that
Instant classic