You just completely ignored everything I said. I am fully cognizant of the danger and folly of ignorant false alarmism. I am talking about an equally dangerous folly: false complacency.
So I will spell it out for you: your complacency is not a product of your intellect and your education. It is a product of an emotional bias just as dangerous as the false alarmism we are both aware of, but for some reason, you see only the false alarmism as the danger on this topic. Failure in cognition on your part.
you can't build such a society. the outliers are natural. for example: schizophrenia. there is zero protection in trying to build a society without malintentioned individuals. there weill always be malintentioned individuals. you suggest a fool's errand
yes, and the law SHOULD be enforced by men with guns. and those men with guns answer to the guys who write the laws. who answer to us... and, increasingly, they answer more to only the guys with the money
but its not a done deal. so let's make sure the guys passing the laws still understand the "we the people" part and get lawmakers in there ready to pass laws getting rid of the money infection in our government
or: what's the other choice? you want to start shooting?
the fucking tools posting here with their ignorant bloodlust
it's happening. it hasn't happened. it's not a done deal. people still vote, no?
so let's fix our government rather than throw up our hands and act like it's already happened? what kind of person does that? if you see one cockroach do you go "alright, it's over, i'm abandoning my house"?
jesus fucking christ the useless tools posting on this site
You know guns work just as well in the hands of those who mean evil as those who mean good. I don't quite understand this mythological belief that a well armed populace is some sort of protection from fascism. If fascism ever does come to this country, those at the vanguard of this nation's fall will be well armed "patriots" whipped into a xenophobic frenzy by a silver tongued demagogue.
When domestic matters are settled by guns rather than words, the country is lost. Therefore, to depend on guns or look forward to their use means you are part of the problem: you've already given up on your country, whether you realize that or not.
im not interested in writing a research paper. im interested in inconsequentially venting on a comment board through a smartphone's lame faux keyboard. so im not quite sure why you think its important to speak up for standards that i have no motivation to care about
do you go into sports bars and contemptuously tell strangers to tuck in their shirt? the only effect of your comment is to make yourself appear mentally brittle and petty. we get it: you have difficulty in informal settings and due to mental inflexibility you cling to rules
thats the sum total of your comments meaning to me
yes, and even with the plutocratic infection we are still far from revolution
but we WILL get to revolution eventually if we do not clear the money infection that is turning "we the people" into "we the rich people and corporations"
we need to cure our government
the morons ready to reach for guns already are just pathetic useless fools
the same sort of ignorant tool who were happy and excited to suit up and get into world war i and the american civil war, and died very quickly with a surprised expression on their face
that's the sort of fucking useless cannon fodderwho are happy to talk about real armed revolution, because of... the RIAA?!
jesus christ what useless stupid people there are in this world
i have an ancestor who fought in the american revolution. i think he would be the first to be interested in correcting the cannon fodder you see posting here who seem so eager for bloodlust, about how hellish the option is and how carefully you need to consider it
no we have assholes who have no clue what real fascism is and water down the real horror of the term by applying it to every minor quibble they have with the idea of authority. see: teenagers calling their parents fascists. see also how the term terrorism is abused and watered down by ignorants and demagogues
little boys like you who have never known real revolution are historically illiterate fools. we will not have a revolution in this country until we are pushed much, much further. and that is a good thing
you don't have the slightest fucking clue of the misery of what a real revolution really is like. i hate the very concept of intellectual property and i hate the plutocracy infecting the country i love. but i am no friend of yours, and the likes of you disgust me far more than chris dodd ever will. at least chris dodd won't lock and load and embrace borderline schizophrenic hollywood addled visions of "glorious" revolutionary bloodshed
fuck you, you gunhappy tool. if we are ever to actually have real fascism in this country, people who think like you, all to ready and happy to grab a gun, will be at the vanguard of this country's collapse into it, guided by demagogues who know all too well how to pull the strings in your ignorant bloodlust drunk mind
revolution means failure you asshole. you are supposed to fix the system, not start shooting people you
have i made my disgust of your ignorant bloodlust clear? then grow the fuck up
peace is an artificial invention of civilization, requiring a constant outward implied threat of force. take away that outward threat and chaos ensues and someone walks in and starts waging war, warlords. until someone consolidates power, a police force maintains internal equilibrium and a military maintains an outward hostile tension, and so a new peaceful equilibrium is established
i'm sorry, but that's the reality you live in. the natural world is a state of constant terror and violence. the peace you love and cherish is something artificial that mankind invented, and that is a good thing. but you need to understand how peace actually works, rather than make up myths about it being some sort of effortless state. no, peace is an expensive luxury of civilization that requires constant tension and maintenance to exist
a bullet made of hope diamond that shoots a laser out of its tip, whose photon pressure is used to guide a piranha in a miniature hang glider, holding a sign that says "pull my finger"
But I'm with msr p ratzo: man up or shut up. There's a certain style of bloviating loudmouth who wallows in gloom and doom, and that's all you do. Fucking useless. All you are really doing is tweaking an inflated sense of self-regard, and contributing nothing of use or value to anyone.
i said the usa is moderate for the world. that's a statement of fact. i understand you don't like totalitarian theocracies, neither do i. but that doesn't change the factuality of what i said. you don't get to say "i don't like that so it doesn't matter" when you try to involve yourself with statements about reality, sorry, it doesn't make those places magically go away and not matter
Money always was in politics and always will be. The point is to never accept this and to minimize the influence. Freedom is not something you fight for once and never have to worry about ever again, there is always backsliding, its just entropy. Freedom is something that requires constant maintenance and vigilance. This fact shouldnt depress you or make you despondent over the amount of work required. There simply isn't any better deal in life
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You just completely ignored everything I said. I am fully cognizant of the danger and folly of ignorant false alarmism. I am talking about an equally dangerous folly: false complacency.
So I will spell it out for you: your complacency is not a product of your intellect and your education. It is a product of an emotional bias just as dangerous as the false alarmism we are both aware of, but for some reason, you see only the false alarmism as the danger on this topic. Failure in cognition on your part.
you can't build such a society. the outliers are natural. for example: schizophrenia. there is zero protection in trying to build a society without malintentioned individuals. there weill always be malintentioned individuals. you suggest a fool's errand
A bear breathes air
So do I
A bear eats fish
So do I!
Oh my gosh: im a bear!
There are kindergarteners with better abilities at compare and contrast than you
win!
false complacency
are you telling us it is impossible for someone to create something lethal and easily transmissible and release it, by mistake or on purpose?
if you are going to grant it is impossible but unlikely, do you not grant that the consequences are huge?
and giant tsunamis will never strike nuclear plants
and religious fundamentalists will never fly planes into office towers
there's many kinds of ignorant folly in this world
read, and educate yourself as to how your psychology and cognition fails you, and us:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory
yes, and the law SHOULD be enforced by men with guns. and those men with guns answer to the guys who write the laws. who answer to us... and, increasingly, they answer more to only the guys with the money
but its not a done deal. so let's make sure the guys passing the laws still understand the "we the people" part and get lawmakers in there ready to pass laws getting rid of the money infection in our government
or: what's the other choice? you want to start shooting?
the fucking tools posting here with their ignorant bloodlust
it's happening. it hasn't happened. it's not a done deal. people still vote, no?
so let's fix our government rather than throw up our hands and act like it's already happened? what kind of person does that? if you see one cockroach do you go "alright, it's over, i'm abandoning my house"?
jesus fucking christ the useless tools posting on this site
all you are demonstrating with your comment is a colossal ignorance about what real fascism is
You know guns work just as well in the hands of those who mean evil as those who mean good. I don't quite understand this mythological belief that a well armed populace is some sort of protection from fascism. If fascism ever does come to this country, those at the vanguard of this nation's fall will be well armed "patriots" whipped into a xenophobic frenzy by a silver tongued demagogue.
When domestic matters are settled by guns rather than words, the country is lost. Therefore, to depend on guns or look forward to their use means you are part of the problem: you've already given up on your country, whether you realize that or not.
You are one hard working troll or one glorious crackpot, I can't decide
im not interested in writing a research paper. im interested in inconsequentially venting on a comment board through a smartphone's lame faux keyboard. so im not quite sure why you think its important to speak up for standards that i have no motivation to care about
do you go into sports bars and contemptuously tell strangers to tuck in their shirt? the only effect of your comment is to make yourself appear mentally brittle and petty. we get it: you have difficulty in informal settings and due to mental inflexibility you cling to rules
thats the sum total of your comments meaning to me
hey, asshole:
we don't live in a fascist country
all you have demonstrated with your comment is that you are historically ignorant and have not the slightest fucking clue of what real fascism is like
yes, and even with the plutocratic infection we are still far from revolution
but we WILL get to revolution eventually if we do not clear the money infection that is turning "we the people" into "we the rich people and corporations"
we need to cure our government
the morons ready to reach for guns already are just pathetic useless fools
the same sort of ignorant tool who were happy and excited to suit up and get into world war i and the american civil war, and died very quickly with a surprised expression on their face
that's the sort of fucking useless cannon fodderwho are happy to talk about real armed revolution, because of... the RIAA?!
jesus christ what useless stupid people there are in this world
i have an ancestor who fought in the american revolution. i think he would be the first to be interested in correcting the cannon fodder you see posting here who seem so eager for bloodlust, about how hellish the option is and how carefully you need to consider it
no we have assholes who have no clue what real fascism is and water down the real horror of the term by applying it to every minor quibble they have with the idea of authority. see: teenagers calling their parents fascists. see also how the term terrorism is abused and watered down by ignorants and demagogues
the bloodshed you endorse is far, far worse
little boys like you who have never known real revolution are historically illiterate fools. we will not have a revolution in this country until we are pushed much, much further. and that is a good thing
you don't have the slightest fucking clue of the misery of what a real revolution really is like. i hate the very concept of intellectual property and i hate the plutocracy infecting the country i love. but i am no friend of yours, and the likes of you disgust me far more than chris dodd ever will. at least chris dodd won't lock and load and embrace borderline schizophrenic hollywood addled visions of "glorious" revolutionary bloodshed
fuck you, you gunhappy tool. if we are ever to actually have real fascism in this country, people who think like you, all to ready and happy to grab a gun, will be at the vanguard of this country's collapse into it, guided by demagogues who know all too well how to pull the strings in your ignorant bloodlust drunk mind
revolution means failure you asshole. you are supposed to fix the system, not start shooting people you
have i made my disgust of your ignorant bloodlust clear? then grow the fuck up
peace is an artificial invention of civilization, requiring a constant outward implied threat of force. take away that outward threat and chaos ensues and someone walks in and starts waging war, warlords. until someone consolidates power, a police force maintains internal equilibrium and a military maintains an outward hostile tension, and so a new peaceful equilibrium is established
i'm sorry, but that's the reality you live in. the natural world is a state of constant terror and violence. the peace you love and cherish is something artificial that mankind invented, and that is a good thing. but you need to understand how peace actually works, rather than make up myths about it being some sort of effortless state. no, peace is an expensive luxury of civilization that requires constant tension and maintenance to exist
a bullet made of hope diamond that shoots a laser out of its tip, whose photon pressure is used to guide a piranha in a miniature hang glider, holding a sign that says "pull my finger"
c'mon people! get it made!
the scourge of grammar nazis was getting farther away from slashdot. i said farther. i also didn't capitalize
<blatant partisan thinking>
the one good use of coyright law
</blatant partisan thinking>
Not one for history huh?
Study up on the banking panics of the 1800s.
But I'm with msr p ratzo: man up or shut up. There's a certain style of bloviating loudmouth who wallows in gloom and doom, and that's all you do. Fucking useless. All you are really doing is tweaking an inflated sense of self-regard, and contributing nothing of use or value to anyone.
Best comment on slashdot so far this year
i said the usa is moderate for the world. that's a statement of fact. i understand you don't like totalitarian theocracies, neither do i. but that doesn't change the factuality of what i said. you don't get to say "i don't like that so it doesn't matter" when you try to involve yourself with statements about reality, sorry, it doesn't make those places magically go away and not matter
Are the thousands dead that the asshole I replied to mentioned an improvement? Because that's what I am reacting to
Money always was in politics and always will be. The point is to never accept this and to minimize the influence. Freedom is not something you fight for once and never have to worry about ever again, there is always backsliding, its just entropy. Freedom is something that requires constant maintenance and vigilance. This fact shouldnt depress you or make you despondent over the amount of work required. There simply isn't any better deal in life