it is ok to have a base crass motivation according to you, just because it is visible and obvious and understandable
motivations that present themselves as noble and moral: what are you saying? is it that whether they are good motivations or not, who cares, it's just too hard for your silly little head to try to think that hard?
i am saying then do not be surprised that if you choose the low and easy road, and walk around proudly boasting that this is the road you choose, that others like myself might judge you as a person of low repugnant character. you are inviting the judgment with your sig. those who choose the simple and easy and thoughtless way just make more suffering for the rest of us
i judge you, not because i am judgmental by my nature, but because you proudly assert that you choose the easy way over the right way. ok then. a judgment is apparently what you are asking for
thank you for showing how some people can come to actually be proud of their callousness and cruelty, and therefore making a convenient signpost example out of yourself as an object lesson for others to learn from and avoid as a mindset (and avoid as a way of governance in this country, ehem)
there is the great moderate middle and all ideological stances must be judged from their point of view, domestically or internationally. as the moderate middle moves over time, so do the outliers and their relative definition
no other point of view is logically valid
because to posit some absolute definition of liberal or conservative over the relative position of a given view as compared to the great moderate middle, is to appeal to a narrow subculture. to say the views of that subculture is the more valid view than that of the common moderate man... on what basis can you say that? no valid basis. not that that will stop you. a lot of evil in this world is committed when a narrow subculture arrogantly asserts that it's point of view and it's definitions supersedes that of the common man, the moderate middle. a military culture, an economic subculture, an academic subculture, whoever does this: they are all the roots of suffering when they do that
the great moderate middle is always right. when those in power are out of touch with the great moderate middle, in any ideological direction, that is when strife and suffering occurs in this world
fact is, all media serves some sort of agenda. usually it's the unself-realized agendas of some editors and reporters. you can point to any media and say "see this sentence?" or "why did they report on XYZ and not ABC?" conspiracy! agenda!
but this is illusory. because there is no organizing principle at work here. contrast that with the obvious corporate agenda that buys and pays for the faux news entertainment empire
which you apparently are happy to embrace. just look at your sig
so you are someone who is happy with bad obvious motivations than with motivations you can't easily see. you would rather go with what you can know, regardless of malintent or lack of morality, than be guided by a sense of right and wrong. because right and wrong is cloudy and difficult, see, and you won't have any of that nonsense
thank you for clearly labeling your bad character for us, asshole
There are plenty of countries more liberal than us: Netherlands, Switzerland, etc. There are plenty of countries more conservative than us: Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc.
Fact is, the USA is pretty much center of the road on the worldwide ideological spectrum.
But certain assholes will call the USA hopelessly conservative, and certain other assholes will call the USA hopelessly liberal.
This speaks to me more about the prejudices and intellectual shortcomings of the person speaking, and less about the simple truth of the USA's moderate position on the ideological world stage.
this doesn't mean they still can't put on a good show. "Aging U-2 Will Fight On Into the Next Decade" is just an inflammatory headline. Bono and The Edge may have a few wrinkles now but they got...
"Id rather have thousands of innocent people getting killed (even if i was one of them), than have one innocent person going to jail for a crime they have not even committed."
I'm comfortable with the idea that you are willing to sacrifice your life for freedom in the idealized extreme as defined here.
I'm not comfortable with the idea you are ok with thousands of others dying for freedom in the idealized extreme
the guy had a jihad note and details to commit harm. throw him in prison
"those who are willing to give up a little freedom in exchange for freedom..."
blah blah blah. yeah i know all the rhetoric. i just don't fucking care. close enough to intent for me, and in fact, that you are willing to sacrifice so many lives that are not your own for YOUR idealism doesn't exactly inure me to your position
life is not black and white. there are gray areas. this is a gray area. only idealists can't make peace with the messiness of how justice actually works in this world, but messy justice is still better than no justice at all
racism still exists. racism always will exists. all that is required for racism to spontaneously appear in any country and any time period is some loser with low iq and a grudge
the simple point is, we've made progress. you don't get to deny obvious progress because you find racism existing somewhere. no shit sherlock, it exists!
now get your head out of your ass and find some reason to celebrate real progress
intelligence is not freaking out in panic at every possible scary scneario
intelligence is not being completely relaxed even when a possible scary scenario grows in possibility
intelligence is realizing both extremes are a problem
i am glad you and others are so smart as to see false alarmism is dangerous
now grow the other half of your brain and realize false complacency is equally dangerous
if you don't have an appreciation of man's vast power to completely fuck up on purpose or by mistake, you're an idiot
reference: fukushima
(now we will hear form those who will dismiss fukushima as not an example of any warning about mankind's ability to screw up... guess what: you false complacent types are just ignorant as the hysterical false alarmists. now grow a brain and learn why)
likewise, radioactive decay is happening everywhere on earth, so who cares if someone has a neutron bomb
pffffffffffft
of course in the vast scope of the universe human endeavour is paltry. but that doesn't mean a couple of smart humans can't get together and make a virus purposefully tailored to infect humans, and do that well, and do that tomorrow, rahter than mother nature arriving at the juncture in 20-2000 years
and some other asshole fucks up and releases it by mistake or some nutcase thinks its a good idea to repeat the experiment and release it because allah or god or yahweh said to
so i'll make you a deal: i won't posit mankind as omnipotent in the face of mother nature's power, if you don't pretend mankind has no abilities to royally screw himself. deal?
the simple fact is that every single one of your rights and freedoms require maintenance, and are always under threat, and can always erode. forever
freedom is not fought for once and then that's the end of the story. you must fight for it. forever. this is a basic truth of existence. is that depressing? well someday you will die too. that's depressing. so you stop trying to live your life, you believe in nothing but gloom and doom? no. likewise, just because the powers of plutocracy are always there trying to rob you of your freedoms you will just give up? then you aren't much of a believer in the value of your freedoms anyway. you give up to easily. you're not a coward, you're just weak
so to counteract your defeatism i submit the the observation that the media dinosaurs sponsoring this bill are losing power and revenue flow and will fade over time. and in a generation, when everyone now who is 20 yo nurtured on an open internet is 50 yo and firmly entrenched in power, and every congresscritter firmly understands the value of a free and open internet, these kinds of attacks on the basic internet functioning by clueless old congresscritters simply won't happen anymore, and will be laughed out of the door
i await the typical tired response to my comment that boils, yet again, to nothing but empty mindless pessimism. you are no aid to the fight for freedom if you give up easily and beleive your freedoms are doomed no matter what. show some backbone or fuck off, we have no time for you
giffords was shot with dozens of armed people around her in a gun happy state. because only in boy scout fantasies does the gun you carry protect you from a random surprise assault
in reality, in the places with gun control, orders of magnitude less people die senselessly every year, because the primary purpose of guns on real life, is to empower random hot heads to kill people
yes, i know, "when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns." this is true for your random criminal mastemrind genius
this is not true for your random hothead, who, when unable to secure a gun, simply won't have one
orders of magnitude of less senseless deaths
but we don't have that in tha usa, because of fools like you with boy scout hollywood fantasies about saving the day with your trusty gun, all supported by gobs of cash from the NRA which represents gun manufacuters
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I don't know.
The point is to try to find one. That's the best any man can do.
But you cant accept what you know isn't right, and perversely proclaim pride in that choice.
Its just a big funny joke to you isn't it
look at your sig:
it is ok to have a base crass motivation according to you, just because it is visible and obvious and understandable
motivations that present themselves as noble and moral: what are you saying? is it that whether they are good motivations or not, who cares, it's just too hard for your silly little head to try to think that hard?
i am saying then do not be surprised that if you choose the low and easy road, and walk around proudly boasting that this is the road you choose, that others like myself might judge you as a person of low repugnant character. you are inviting the judgment with your sig. those who choose the simple and easy and thoughtless way just make more suffering for the rest of us
i judge you, not because i am judgmental by my nature, but because you proudly assert that you choose the easy way over the right way. ok then. a judgment is apparently what you are asking for
thank you for showing how some people can come to actually be proud of their callousness and cruelty, and therefore making a convenient signpost example out of yourself as an object lesson for others to learn from and avoid as a mindset (and avoid as a way of governance in this country, ehem)
conservative is a relative term
there is the great moderate middle and all ideological stances must be judged from their point of view, domestically or internationally. as the moderate middle moves over time, so do the outliers and their relative definition
no other point of view is logically valid
because to posit some absolute definition of liberal or conservative over the relative position of a given view as compared to the great moderate middle, is to appeal to a narrow subculture. to say the views of that subculture is the more valid view than that of the common moderate man... on what basis can you say that? no valid basis. not that that will stop you. a lot of evil in this world is committed when a narrow subculture arrogantly asserts that it's point of view and it's definitions supersedes that of the common man, the moderate middle. a military culture, an economic subculture, an academic subculture, whoever does this: they are all the roots of suffering when they do that
the great moderate middle is always right. when those in power are out of touch with the great moderate middle, in any ideological direction, that is when strife and suffering occurs in this world
says who? your favorite radio show personality?
fact is, all media serves some sort of agenda. usually it's the unself-realized agendas of some editors and reporters. you can point to any media and say "see this sentence?" or "why did they report on XYZ and not ABC?" conspiracy! agenda!
but this is illusory. because there is no organizing principle at work here. contrast that with the obvious corporate agenda that buys and pays for the faux news entertainment empire
which you apparently are happy to embrace. just look at your sig
so you are someone who is happy with bad obvious motivations than with motivations you can't easily see. you would rather go with what you can know, regardless of malintent or lack of morality, than be guided by a sense of right and wrong. because right and wrong is cloudy and difficult, see, and you won't have any of that nonsense
thank you for clearly labeling your bad character for us, asshole
There are plenty of countries more liberal than us: Netherlands, Switzerland, etc. There are plenty of countries more conservative than us: Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc.
Fact is, the USA is pretty much center of the road on the worldwide ideological spectrum.
But certain assholes will call the USA hopelessly conservative, and certain other assholes will call the USA hopelessly liberal.
This speaks to me more about the prejudices and intellectual shortcomings of the person speaking, and less about the simple truth of the USA's moderate position on the ideological world stage.
someone talking to themselves walking down the street would have been considered insane or on drugs
now, they just have a bluetooth headset on and are perfectly normal
today, someone sitting alone in the park making random jerky gestures would be someone on drugs, or insane
in 5 years, that's just someone using their kinect-enabled laptop
it's all part of technology's goal of virtualizing the experience of tourette syndrome and schizophrenia for us all
remember, the threat is the liberal media pushing a liberal agenda
not a murdoch financed opinion piece pushing a corporate funded agenda
right? the threat to you is the liberal media, right?
this doesn't mean they still can't put on a good show. "Aging U-2 Will Fight On Into the Next Decade" is just an inflammatory headline. Bono and The Edge may have a few wrinkles now but they got...
what?
oh, never mind
"Id rather have thousands of innocent people getting killed (even if i was one of them), than have one innocent person going to jail for a crime they have not even committed."
I'm comfortable with the idea that you are willing to sacrifice your life for freedom in the idealized extreme as defined here.
I'm not comfortable with the idea you are ok with thousands of others dying for freedom in the idealized extreme
the guy had a jihad note and details to commit harm. throw him in prison
"those who are willing to give up a little freedom in exchange for freedom..."
blah blah blah. yeah i know all the rhetoric. i just don't fucking care. close enough to intent for me, and in fact, that you are willing to sacrifice so many lives that are not your own for YOUR idealism doesn't exactly inure me to your position
life is not black and white. there are gray areas. this is a gray area. only idealists can't make peace with the messiness of how justice actually works in this world, but messy justice is still better than no justice at all
so i'm with the system. and fuck you idealists
that is not an opinion, that is an objective appraisal of the ignorant words you write
cool story, bro
power corrupts
it is only a matter of time before google goes from nerd darling to abusive apparatus
it is the inevitable arc of all human enterprise
until another google rises, be prepared for the betrayals
too bad everything else about candidate gingrich stinks
who in the slashdot organization has google stock, because every story on this site about google invariably spins positive for google
google is the new microsoft. it really is
yet the standard prejudices here on slashdot about microsoft and google on this site seem to be stuck in 2001
(now mod me troll for not towing the slashdot party line)
racism still exists. racism always will exists. all that is required for racism to spontaneously appear in any country and any time period is some loser with low iq and a grudge
the simple point is, we've made progress. you don't get to deny obvious progress because you find racism existing somewhere. no shit sherlock, it exists!
now get your head out of your ass and find some reason to celebrate real progress
it's most basic component, a quantum of a cloud, if you will, is a water vapor
"vaporware" therefore is indeed the perfect marketing terminology for this combination of quantum and cloud computing hogwash
LOL
stand in line behind the quantum gravity trolls
as long as this story doesn't bring out the electric universe trolls
false complacency
intelligence is not freaking out in panic at every possible scary scneario
intelligence is not being completely relaxed even when a possible scary scenario grows in possibility
intelligence is realizing both extremes are a problem
i am glad you and others are so smart as to see false alarmism is dangerous
now grow the other half of your brain and realize false complacency is equally dangerous
if you don't have an appreciation of man's vast power to completely fuck up on purpose or by mistake, you're an idiot
reference: fukushima
(now we will hear form those who will dismiss fukushima as not an example of any warning about mankind's ability to screw up... guess what: you false complacent types are just ignorant as the hysterical false alarmists. now grow a brain and learn why)
likewise, radioactive decay is happening everywhere on earth, so who cares if someone has a neutron bomb
pffffffffffft
of course in the vast scope of the universe human endeavour is paltry. but that doesn't mean a couple of smart humans can't get together and make a virus purposefully tailored to infect humans, and do that well, and do that tomorrow, rahter than mother nature arriving at the juncture in 20-2000 years
and some other asshole fucks up and releases it by mistake or some nutcase thinks its a good idea to repeat the experiment and release it because allah or god or yahweh said to
so i'll make you a deal: i won't posit mankind as omnipotent in the face of mother nature's power, if you don't pretend mankind has no abilities to royally screw himself. deal?
evolution is not real
the world is flat
i don't want to think
i have certain beliefs and i do not want them challenged
and i believe in a mythical past that never existed where everything was perfect and all progress has ruined the myth
and i will spend all of my breath standing against simple human thought, logic, reason, and progress
because i am inert and my mind is closed
and you should be the same way too
and i will raise my many many children to think this way too
baaaahhh baaaaahhh
rise of the human herbivores
defeatist attitudes like yours
the simple fact is that every single one of your rights and freedoms require maintenance, and are always under threat, and can always erode. forever
freedom is not fought for once and then that's the end of the story. you must fight for it. forever. this is a basic truth of existence. is that depressing? well someday you will die too. that's depressing. so you stop trying to live your life, you believe in nothing but gloom and doom? no. likewise, just because the powers of plutocracy are always there trying to rob you of your freedoms you will just give up? then you aren't much of a believer in the value of your freedoms anyway. you give up to easily. you're not a coward, you're just weak
so to counteract your defeatism i submit the the observation that the media dinosaurs sponsoring this bill are losing power and revenue flow and will fade over time. and in a generation, when everyone now who is 20 yo nurtured on an open internet is 50 yo and firmly entrenched in power, and every congresscritter firmly understands the value of a free and open internet, these kinds of attacks on the basic internet functioning by clueless old congresscritters simply won't happen anymore, and will be laughed out of the door
i await the typical tired response to my comment that boils, yet again, to nothing but empty mindless pessimism. you are no aid to the fight for freedom if you give up easily and beleive your freedoms are doomed no matter what. show some backbone or fuck off, we have no time for you
except that's not how real life works
giffords was shot with dozens of armed people around her in a gun happy state. because only in boy scout fantasies does the gun you carry protect you from a random surprise assault
in reality, in the places with gun control, orders of magnitude less people die senselessly every year, because the primary purpose of guns on real life, is to empower random hot heads to kill people
yes, i know, "when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns." this is true for your random criminal mastemrind genius
this is not true for your random hothead, who, when unable to secure a gun, simply won't have one
orders of magnitude of less senseless deaths
but we don't have that in tha usa, because of fools like you with boy scout hollywood fantasies about saving the day with your trusty gun, all supported by gobs of cash from the NRA which represents gun manufacuters
sick and pathetic
blood is on your hands