go ahead, start that lecture about diet and exercise at the next funeral of a relative. your family will love you. no time more appropriate to be a jackass, right?
but in the comments here you don't see a rising above, you see a continuation (inversion of direction of hate is still hate), of the kind of mentality that led to 9/11
I left work at 5 WTC at 9 PM on Monday 9/10/01. So I had planned to go to work late on Tuesday. I woke up in Midtown to my phone ringing off the hook on 9/11/01.
It was a beautiful evening that Monday. I remember turning around and looking at a lone guitarist in the dark in the plaza, under that Fritz Koenig "Sphere" sculpture. I looked up at the towers, then got in the subway.
Those who were killed were not responsible for foreign policy. If you cannot comment on this event without prattling away about foreign policy, I think you are part of the problem in the world. You don't champion the suffering of some by denigrating the suffering of others, you are simply choose sides in a stupid tribal chest thumping match. If you are truly a person of principles, rather than just another voice in the endless turf war, you will see all suffering as a moment to reach for nobler sentiments than the heartlessness you see in these comments.
the argument is never "censor" vs "don't censor" as this is a false argument that will never exist
the proper argument is "what is censored" and "how much"
in this way, idiots who go "well, the USA lets the the MPAA censor youtube posters, and germany doesn't like nazi stuff, and so this is all the same as china and iran censoring political speech"
no, it's not the same thing
and if you think about the problem of censorship in these mindless false equivalencies, you are using a sledgehammer to kill mosquitoes: you are thinking about a complex problem in a hamfisted simplistic way, and you only make yourself sound like someone who can't process complex thoughts and doesn't understand the subject matter
i wouldn't, for example, use mice as a valid model for say, genes having to do with brain structure in human beings. homo sapiens have made some changes in that department as compared to our mammalian cousins or even our simian cousins
but, evolutionarily speaking, we are so close to mice that a cell signalling pathway as basic as this one is most likely shared between mice and men
even if the signalling system were dormant in humans, we most likely still have the genes for it, and it could be revived in human beings under certain conditions
it's valid to talk about something like this in mice applying to humans. it would be exceptional if we did not share the same pathway
"That's what's smart about our system, compared to China's. It gives you the pretense that you may voice your opinion."
that's insane. you either voice your opinion or you don't. there's no pretense. you act like the genuine right to say whatever you want is some sort of fake right that has no meaning. what the hell is wrong with you?
if we are ever going to lose our rights, it will due to people like you: people who don't appreciate their rights and discount them in the most contrived manner possible
you have the right to freedom of expression, including and especially in the realm of politics!
no. wisdom is the difference between raising your standards too high and not raising them at all. it shows you don't know what you are talking about when you think just raising standards is the only issue here, and it doesn't speak very highly of your communication skills that my words represent something to you that i didn't even say
but then you are dealing with people with serious issues about the ability to appreciate what they have, and therefore people who will never truly be happy, and therefore miserable people you should stop considering as valid examples of anything
there are pitiable creatures you should recoil from and never ever want to be near, as they are merely toxic influences in the lives of everyone they touch, because they simply can't ever be happy and content with modest things
Don't hate him because he didn't make another movie that matched your high standards.
If your wife cooks you an amazing steak and gives you an amazing blow job, appreciate that she did that. Don't hate her because she didn't give you steak and lobster and a threesome the night after that.
The problem is YOU and your ridiculous standards, not Lucas.
Grow the fuck up, you ridiculous Star Wars fanboys.
right now i can scream anything i want about obama or the republicans short of threatening lives
the same right does not exist in china
that means something concrete, valid, and important, and it certainly means we are better off than china
you have to admit that difference or you look silly. if anything, to be a citizen of the usa or the west and not see the value of this difference in rights is the real failure here: that citizens are so clueless of their own rights that other people don't have, and to take those rights for granted: the failure is yours. to bemoan where the usa fails you, without recognizing where it actually does you good, as compared to a place like china, makes you look like a clueless whiner, not an intelligent commentator
so to equate the political or rights situation in china with the usa seems to me to be completely ridiculous. you're really reaching here. i understand the point you are trying to make, but you will serve your point far better by admitting that on the questions of rights, the usa is far, far better than china
you don't serve the point you wish to make by making false equivalencies, you just delegitimize your own voice by making it seem like you don't know what you are talking about
we are way, way better than china on the measure of freedom of expression, especially political expression
i never really understood this mode of thinking where because we have some problems we are exactly the same as brutal regimes like iran or china
it represents to me a lack of perspective or scale, and a frightening tendency to inflate hysteria and fear with reality
i'll say it again: we are way, way better than china on the measure of freedom of expression
if you don't understand that simple truth when you speak about the usa versus other governments in the world, your words means absolutely nothing and you simply don't understand the world you live in
go ahead and criticize obama or the republican party on these message boards. no one's going to knock on your door. you feel perfectly free to write your criticisms. as you should in a just society
now go ahead and criticize the chinese communist party or wen jiabao, FROM WITHIN CHINA. if you persist, and you WILL get a knock on your door
so if you don't understand that difference, and it's implications, stop talking about this subject matter: you don't understand what you are talking about
enough with these false contrived equivalencies. it just makes you look stupid. really
This is Slashdot. We are technology and sci fi enthusiasts. This idea gives me a cerebral boner, it gets me excited, fills me with awe at human endeavour. And if you don't feel the same way, what the bleep are you doing posting on Slashdot?
Also, I'm not a dumb chest thumping tribal nationalist, so if the Chinese should be able to do it, credit to them, I bow before their accomplishment, and sour grapes is really not the bleeping point.
Finally, if all you can do is whine about fear and lack of trust in technical acumen and science and an unhealthy aversion to modest risk, with a brain informed more by Michael Bay movies than actual fucking science and tech, then you really are posting on the wrong fucking site, and frankly, sign off and fuck off and stop polluting these forums with your feeble mind.
this storm was huge, slow, and dumped tons of water. that's the damage and danger. the wind speed wasn't an issue
a fast small cat 3 would do far less damage
so the lesson is: we need to retire the category system as primary indicator of threat level to lives and property. we need a new metric. taking into account size, speed, volume of rain AND windspeed. not just windspeed
i've been coming here daily, weekly, since 1999. we've even exchanged a few emails in that time. you've always been a gentleman, and while i've groused about dupes now and then, the overall impression of slashdot, for me, is of course, excellent. you've done a great service with this site, you deserve much kudos and appreciation, and you have mine
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go ahead, start that lecture about diet and exercise at the next funeral of a relative. your family will love you. no time more appropriate to be a jackass, right?
then why don't you throw a party?
out of respect for those who ARE mourning, you stay silent about tangential agendas. it's not appropriate right now
and if you can't show that simple respect, i have to wonder what else you don't understand
9/11 is about remembrance of those who died
what you are proposing is like showing up at the funeral and discussing diabetes cause and effects
"If we're not going to discuss this now, when?"
definitely after we mourn the dead, not while we mourn the dead, obviously
"this guy died of snake bite, but those 10 guys died while snorkeling, therefore..."
therefore what?!
false equivalency only makes you look like a fool
agreed
but in the comments here you don't see a rising above, you see a continuation (inversion of direction of hate is still hate), of the kind of mentality that led to 9/11
you realize that your attitude is exactly the same thing you hate
therefore, you are part of the problem
the idea is to rise above the hate, not simply invert the hate, and think that means anything
you've become just another empty pointless node in the endless cycle of tribal turf wars
I left work at 5 WTC at 9 PM on Monday 9/10/01. So I had planned to go to work late on Tuesday. I woke up in Midtown to my phone ringing off the hook on 9/11/01.
It was a beautiful evening that Monday. I remember turning around and looking at a lone guitarist in the dark in the plaza, under that Fritz Koenig "Sphere" sculpture. I looked up at the towers, then got in the subway.
Those who were killed were not responsible for foreign policy. If you cannot comment on this event without prattling away about foreign policy, I think you are part of the problem in the world. You don't champion the suffering of some by denigrating the suffering of others, you are simply choose sides in a stupid tribal chest thumping match. If you are truly a person of principles, rather than just another voice in the endless turf war, you will see all suffering as a moment to reach for nobler sentiments than the heartlessness you see in these comments.
"that's no moon"
the argument is never "censor" vs "don't censor" as this is a false argument that will never exist
the proper argument is "what is censored" and "how much"
in this way, idiots who go "well, the USA lets the the MPAA censor youtube posters, and germany doesn't like nazi stuff, and so this is all the same as china and iran censoring political speech"
no, it's not the same thing
and if you think about the problem of censorship in these mindless false equivalencies, you are using a sledgehammer to kill mosquitoes: you are thinking about a complex problem in a hamfisted simplistic way, and you only make yourself sound like someone who can't process complex thoughts and doesn't understand the subject matter
i wouldn't, for example, use mice as a valid model for say, genes having to do with brain structure in human beings. homo sapiens have made some changes in that department as compared to our mammalian cousins or even our simian cousins
but, evolutionarily speaking, we are so close to mice that a cell signalling pathway as basic as this one is most likely shared between mice and men
even if the signalling system were dormant in humans, we most likely still have the genes for it, and it could be revived in human beings under certain conditions
it's valid to talk about something like this in mice applying to humans. it would be exceptional if we did not share the same pathway
that's why they added the megaphones that go "MOO MOO MOO MOO!"
now the enemy will be lulled into complacency at the screeching hot metallic cows bearing down on them at 40mph
and you don't know what a celebrity is
"That's what's smart about our system, compared to China's. It gives you the pretense that you may voice your opinion."
that's insane. you either voice your opinion or you don't. there's no pretense. you act like the genuine right to say whatever you want is some sort of fake right that has no meaning. what the hell is wrong with you?
if we are ever going to lose our rights, it will due to people like you: people who don't appreciate their rights and discount them in the most contrived manner possible
you have the right to freedom of expression, including and especially in the realm of politics!
appreciate that, you idiot
no. wisdom is the difference between raising your standards too high and not raising them at all. it shows you don't know what you are talking about when you think just raising standards is the only issue here, and it doesn't speak very highly of your communication skills that my words represent something to you that i didn't even say
right
but then you are dealing with people with serious issues about the ability to appreciate what they have, and therefore people who will never truly be happy, and therefore miserable people you should stop considering as valid examples of anything
there are pitiable creatures you should recoil from and never ever want to be near, as they are merely toxic influences in the lives of everyone they touch, because they simply can't ever be happy and content with modest things
"Living on past accomplishments is one thing. Dwelling on them and reminding us frequently how great it was that ONE time. Not so great."
Yeah I agree. But that's what fanboys are doing to themselves, not what Lucas is doing to them.
Appreciate what you get in life. Raising your standards to ridiculous heights and flogging a dead horse is the fanboy's problem, not Lucas's
The guy made a great movie.
Don't hate him because he didn't make another movie that matched your high standards.
If your wife cooks you an amazing steak and gives you an amazing blow job, appreciate that she did that. Don't hate her because she didn't give you steak and lobster and a threesome the night after that.
The problem is YOU and your ridiculous standards, not Lucas.
Grow the fuck up, you ridiculous Star Wars fanboys.
i don't understand your point
right now i can scream anything i want about obama or the republicans short of threatening lives
the same right does not exist in china
that means something concrete, valid, and important, and it certainly means we are better off than china
you have to admit that difference or you look silly. if anything, to be a citizen of the usa or the west and not see the value of this difference in rights is the real failure here: that citizens are so clueless of their own rights that other people don't have, and to take those rights for granted: the failure is yours. to bemoan where the usa fails you, without recognizing where it actually does you good, as compared to a place like china, makes you look like a clueless whiner, not an intelligent commentator
so to equate the political or rights situation in china with the usa seems to me to be completely ridiculous. you're really reaching here. i understand the point you are trying to make, but you will serve your point far better by admitting that on the questions of rights, the usa is far, far better than china
you don't serve the point you wish to make by making false equivalencies, you just delegitimize your own voice by making it seem like you don't know what you are talking about
"And we're by no means any better than China."
we are way, way better than china on the measure of freedom of expression, especially political expression
i never really understood this mode of thinking where because we have some problems we are exactly the same as brutal regimes like iran or china
it represents to me a lack of perspective or scale, and a frightening tendency to inflate hysteria and fear with reality
i'll say it again: we are way, way better than china on the measure of freedom of expression
if you don't understand that simple truth when you speak about the usa versus other governments in the world, your words means absolutely nothing and you simply don't understand the world you live in
go ahead and criticize obama or the republican party on these message boards. no one's going to knock on your door. you feel perfectly free to write your criticisms. as you should in a just society
now go ahead and criticize the chinese communist party or wen jiabao, FROM WITHIN CHINA. if you persist, and you WILL get a knock on your door
so if you don't understand that difference, and it's implications, stop talking about this subject matter: you don't understand what you are talking about
enough with these false contrived equivalencies. it just makes you look stupid. really
pewpew...pewpew...pewpew
"Mein Leben!"
well, with most girls i know, bleeping always leads to fucking
This is Slashdot. We are technology and sci fi enthusiasts. This idea gives me a cerebral boner, it gets me excited, fills me with awe at human endeavour. And if you don't feel the same way, what the bleep are you doing posting on Slashdot?
Also, I'm not a dumb chest thumping tribal nationalist, so if the Chinese should be able to do it, credit to them, I bow before their accomplishment, and sour grapes is really not the bleeping point.
Finally, if all you can do is whine about fear and lack of trust in technical acumen and science and an unhealthy aversion to modest risk, with a brain informed more by Michael Bay movies than actual fucking science and tech, then you really are posting on the wrong fucking site, and frankly, sign off and fuck off and stop polluting these forums with your feeble mind.
so it will only be michael bay movies?
category ratings don't capture the real threat
this storm was huge, slow, and dumped tons of water. that's the damage and danger. the wind speed wasn't an issue
a fast small cat 3 would do far less damage
so the lesson is: we need to retire the category system as primary indicator of threat level to lives and property. we need a new metric. taking into account size, speed, volume of rain AND windspeed. not just windspeed
i've been coming here daily, weekly, since 1999. we've even exchanged a few emails in that time. you've always been a gentleman, and while i've groused about dupes now and then, the overall impression of slashdot, for me, is of course, excellent. you've done a great service with this site, you deserve much kudos and appreciation, and you have mine
cheers,
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