that's just ignorance. valuing life means you value vaccines. if you value life, but you don't value vaccines, that's not a separate belief, that's lack of knowledge
everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. no one is entitled to their own facts. if you don't understand that vaccines protect life, you're simply a stupid person
You do not have a right to live free of threats, sorry
i stopped reading there, you're an idiot
as a free man, i absolutely have the right to live free of threats
not that i expect no one will ever threaten me in my life, there's always some fucking douchebag
but that when my life is threatened, i can expect that person to recognize they have transgressed on my freedoms and to apologize or make amends, or be caught and punished by me, someone else, or the authorities, for transgressing against the freedoms of others
freedom must be maintained from all threats, indeed
what most don't understand is that threats to your freedoms do not come only from above, corrupt authority, but also from losers around you who abuse your freedoms out of malice or stupidity
My point was simple, if you only take out the people paying the bribes, and not those accepting them, someone else will step up and start bribing the people in government
i'm saying take out both, you're focusing only on one side
who has the power to create the framework that the companies work in - the government
this is retarded beyond belief. if government were weaker or nonexistent, companies would still exist, and merely form their own security forces, against which you have no right to redress. power is not magic that government creates, it is merely assumed by whomever exerts it. why do you want to weaken the only institution you have on your side, government, and allow a freer hand to those who are already abusing you (corrupting your government) and would happily abuse you more without pesky rules and regulations?
every freedom has limitations, natural limitations dictated by logic and reason, not big bad government arbitrarily limiting your freedom
namely, when you use your freedoms to infringe on other peoples's freedoms
such as their freedom to live, and live free of threats
it is illegal to to threaten lives. it's the only logical position. to *preserve* freedom, you see
there's a certain kind of selfish moron who thinks freedom means "i can do anything i want, damn the consequences." of course, true freedom only exists with true maturity and responsibility, which understands freedom to mean "i can do anything i want, as long i don't infringe on the freedom of others"
many of us also remember our youth fondly. when the teenage years are the most psychologically painful periods of a human life
we all have it. we forget the bad, and remember the good. it's also why people think things should be "like the good old days," to mythologize the past and always think things are getting worse. the truth of course that the past was more violent, poorer, and unhappier
it's a fundamental human conceit. historical myopia
you want to magically remove corruptibility from the human race?
you don't want to go after the slimy assholes doing the corrupting?
you're a moron, really. not a baseless insult, an objective evaluation of your thinking. you want to ignore corruptors and focus only on the corrupted. fucking stupid
yes, absolutely, political corruption is a crime with a corruptor and a corrupted
why do you want to focus all blame on only one side of a deal that is the fault of two sides?
why do you focus zero blame on the guy who is paying for and often initiating the corruption? you think it's only innocent corporations being reached out to by sleazy politicians? seriously?
anyone who grew up when it was common for children to die at a young age due to common diseases would vaccinate wholeheartedly. but, distant those horrors, the effort necessary to maintain the status quo of healthy children becomes all you see: vaccinations, sticking needles in children, strange concotions i don't understand...
likewise, you have these similar fools who see the benefits of a regulated marketplace, but only see the onerous regulations, and not the horrors of what an unregulated marketplace is really like. so they react to the regulations as if they are the actual evil, just like anti-vaxxers
anyone who survived (broke) one of the many banking panics of the 1800s would claim the FDIC the greatest godsend. but, now that we don't have runs on banks, we just have this "evil" "world domination" "freedom destroying" scheme called the FDIC: morons think the FDIC is the actual evil
it's a conceit of lack of experience, lack of education, no awareness of history, prideful ignorance
plenty of those wealthy only get their wealth by warping the laws of the land to bring more wealth in their direction. we're not talking about hard working small business owners here, we're talking about parasites
additionally, i am not sure why we should worry about these "patriotic americans" fleeing the country being that doing so would give us more leverage to seize the means of their ill gotten gains, which is the real problem
there's a certain kind of american who thinks "socialist" means "communist totalitarianism"
it's a kneejerk pavlovian response from cold war era propaganda without any thought education or historical awareness
i'm not a socialist and i can think of problems with socialism. but at least i can talk about the concept on its merits and lack thereof, rather than being a blind moron as to what the word really means and substituting ignorance from an expired era, the cold war, when considering the word emptily, rather than the real ideology the word actually represents
but it is tiny compared to the systemic misogyny in the power structures and social norms in jobs and schools, especially STEM jobs and schools
so to ask for the false balance with the esoteric minor misandry, when examining the very strong and very real misogyny, is yet another example of someone, in this case you, just not fucking getting it, and being out of touch with the reality of pervasive misogyny
women suffer from sexism far more than men in general society, and especially in STEM careers/ academia
this is actual reality
it's like says racism against whites by blacks balances racism against blacks by whites. completely ignoring history and reality of who actually suffers far, far worse effects
and of course there is misandry in this world, that's real, that exists
but it's the misogyny that is far, far more worse and embedded in social norms and power structures in jobs and schools, especially in STEM jobs and scholarly pursuits
that's reality. if you don't agree with that or understand that, you don't understand reality
the point is the bias is real and serious. if ridiculous drama like that reaction to the guy's t shirt exists, this is minor sideshow crap compared to the very real, very serious, very unfunny sexism
but in certain minds, the blowback over a t shirt is the "real" issue, and the actual sexism is unnoticed and invisible, or a reason to make jokes, on a topic which is not funny
people are poor and don't have time for a hassle and want to listen to music right now for free. if you yell at them this is wrong, they won't care: they want to listen to music. hardly a grave moral transgression
so they do. because they can. because the internet allows for myriad ways to share files
so what you are left with is a classic situation in human history: new technology changes the balance of power and the old way of doing things is thrown out. let the old guard grimaces and sputters with rage. who cares?
in the future, recorded music will be nothing but free advertising for the artist. the artist gets his income from live shows, ancillary items, advertising, etc. this crazy arrangement used to function with an esoteric strange technology called "radio": music for free, supported by ads, and artists get exposure to make money in other ways. so we're hardly in weird new territory here
is it written somewhere in the bible or the quran that making money off of recorded music is some sort of basic human right? no, there is merely a legal convention from the last one hundred years only, when recorded music existed on physical medium. for thousands of years before that, and now forever more from this century on, you make money form live performance, patronage, ads, ancillary revenue, etc.
idiots gnashing their teeth over a hollow legal arrangement based on a technology that has been leapfrogged don't mean anything except an example of how people can be clueless
the words you say are in defense of a temporary power arrangement, physical media, that is almost done completely fading away
if the music companies were smart, they'd continue to operate the site
"we shut down the pirates! that will end this threat once and for all!"
(two weeks later, 20 more sites)
it should have been:
"this is a popular site. now that we own it we will modify it slightly so that we derive some revenue from it while not pissing off the listeners, thus gracefully transitioning to a new distribution model that listeners desire"
Slashdot Mirror
if you have knowledge of an attack, you tell everyone who is going to do it
if you just tell of an attack coming, you're the one who is going to attack
this is just basic social skills here
that's just ignorance. valuing life means you value vaccines. if you value life, but you don't value vaccines, that's not a separate belief, that's lack of knowledge
everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. no one is entitled to their own facts. if you don't understand that vaccines protect life, you're simply a stupid person
i stopped reading there, you're an idiot
as a free man, i absolutely have the right to live free of threats
not that i expect no one will ever threaten me in my life, there's always some fucking douchebag
but that when my life is threatened, i can expect that person to recognize they have transgressed on my freedoms and to apologize or make amends, or be caught and punished by me, someone else, or the authorities, for transgressing against the freedoms of others
freedom must be maintained from all threats, indeed
what most don't understand is that threats to your freedoms do not come only from above, corrupt authority, but also from losers around you who abuse your freedoms out of malice or stupidity
there will always be immoral actions, yes. and? your point?
we're talking about what is right and what is wrong, idiot. not that wrong actions merely exist
well said
i'm saying take out both, you're focusing only on one side
this is retarded beyond belief. if government were weaker or nonexistent, companies would still exist, and merely form their own security forces, against which you have no right to redress. power is not magic that government creates, it is merely assumed by whomever exerts it. why do you want to weaken the only institution you have on your side, government, and allow a freer hand to those who are already abusing you (corrupting your government) and would happily abuse you more without pesky rules and regulations?
every freedom has limitations, natural limitations dictated by logic and reason, not big bad government arbitrarily limiting your freedom
namely, when you use your freedoms to infringe on other peoples's freedoms
such as their freedom to live, and live free of threats
it is illegal to to threaten lives. it's the only logical position. to *preserve* freedom, you see
there's a certain kind of selfish moron who thinks freedom means "i can do anything i want, damn the consequences." of course, true freedom only exists with true maturity and responsibility, which understands freedom to mean "i can do anything i want, as long i don't infringe on the freedom of others"
if you make a threat, people aren't going to ignore that
this is not an overreaction or a big brother issue
you can never expect to make a statement which is clearly a threat and people are just going to ignore it
yup, well said
many of us also remember our youth fondly. when the teenage years are the most psychologically painful periods of a human life
we all have it. we forget the bad, and remember the good. it's also why people think things should be "like the good old days," to mythologize the past and always think things are getting worse. the truth of course that the past was more violent, poorer, and unhappier
it's a fundamental human conceit. historical myopia
you want to take away the government?
you want to magically remove corruptibility from the human race?
you don't want to go after the slimy assholes doing the corrupting?
you're a moron, really. not a baseless insult, an objective evaluation of your thinking. you want to ignore corruptors and focus only on the corrupted. fucking stupid
yes, absolutely, political corruption is a crime with a corruptor and a corrupted
why do you want to focus all blame on only one side of a deal that is the fault of two sides?
why do you focus zero blame on the guy who is paying for and often initiating the corruption? you think it's only innocent corporations being reached out to by sleazy politicians? seriously?
"someone bribed the bank guard and robbed the bank"
"so fire the guard, problem solved"
"what about the robbers?"
"uhhh...."
i see it as a similar conceit to anti-vaxxers
anyone who grew up when it was common for children to die at a young age due to common diseases would vaccinate wholeheartedly. but, distant those horrors, the effort necessary to maintain the status quo of healthy children becomes all you see: vaccinations, sticking needles in children, strange concotions i don't understand...
likewise, you have these similar fools who see the benefits of a regulated marketplace, but only see the onerous regulations, and not the horrors of what an unregulated marketplace is really like. so they react to the regulations as if they are the actual evil, just like anti-vaxxers
anyone who survived (broke) one of the many banking panics of the 1800s would claim the FDIC the greatest godsend. but, now that we don't have runs on banks, we just have this "evil" "world domination" "freedom destroying" scheme called the FDIC: morons think the FDIC is the actual evil
it's a conceit of lack of experience, lack of education, no awareness of history, prideful ignorance
so the rich and corporations do not use their money to change the laws to get even more money, for no extra effort?
you're ignorant and delusional
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...
plenty of those wealthy only get their wealth by warping the laws of the land to bring more wealth in their direction. we're not talking about hard working small business owners here, we're talking about parasites
additionally, i am not sure why we should worry about these "patriotic americans" fleeing the country being that doing so would give us more leverage to seize the means of their ill gotten gains, which is the real problem
so good fucking riddance should they flee
there's a certain kind of american who thinks "socialist" means "communist totalitarianism"
it's a kneejerk pavlovian response from cold war era propaganda without any thought education or historical awareness
i'm not a socialist and i can think of problems with socialism. but at least i can talk about the concept on its merits and lack thereof, rather than being a blind moron as to what the word really means and substituting ignorance from an expired era, the cold war, when considering the word emptily, rather than the real ideology the word actually represents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...
misandry exists and is real
but it is tiny compared to the systemic misogyny in the power structures and social norms in jobs and schools, especially STEM jobs and schools
so to ask for the false balance with the esoteric minor misandry, when examining the very strong and very real misogyny, is yet another example of someone, in this case you, just not fucking getting it, and being out of touch with the reality of pervasive misogyny
you are out of touch with reality
no, wrong
women suffer from sexism far more than men in general society, and especially in STEM careers/ academia
this is actual reality
it's like says racism against whites by blacks balances racism against blacks by whites. completely ignoring history and reality of who actually suffers far, far worse effects
and of course there is misandry in this world, that's real, that exists
but it's the misogyny that is far, far more worse and embedded in social norms and power structures in jobs and schools, especially in STEM jobs and scholarly pursuits
that's reality. if you don't agree with that or understand that, you don't understand reality
the point is the bias is real and serious. if ridiculous drama like that reaction to the guy's t shirt exists, this is minor sideshow crap compared to the very real, very serious, very unfunny sexism
but in certain minds, the blowback over a t shirt is the "real" issue, and the actual sexism is unnoticed and invisible, or a reason to make jokes, on a topic which is not funny
revealing the bias and prejudice to be very real
you are modded funny, and make a joke, when men ARE privileged
as proven by the story you are commenting other
yet everyone is laughing
so the problem is real, because everyone thinks the subject is a joke
it's like a story showing racism's bad effects, and people make racist jokes underneath
unexamined prejudice is alive and well in the slashdot comments
that will never happen again. customers will share files online
but in your sentence is exactly the stupidity that shows why the music industry is dying. for not embracing the technology where their customers are
thank you, well said
true
i still feel there is a more nuanced solution to these situations where more benefit is derived
just turning the power switch off seems like a waste of value, however damaged
people are poor and don't have time for a hassle and want to listen to music right now for free. if you yell at them this is wrong, they won't care: they want to listen to music. hardly a grave moral transgression
so they do. because they can. because the internet allows for myriad ways to share files
so what you are left with is a classic situation in human history: new technology changes the balance of power and the old way of doing things is thrown out. let the old guard grimaces and sputters with rage. who cares?
in the future, recorded music will be nothing but free advertising for the artist. the artist gets his income from live shows, ancillary items, advertising, etc. this crazy arrangement used to function with an esoteric strange technology called "radio": music for free, supported by ads, and artists get exposure to make money in other ways. so we're hardly in weird new territory here
is it written somewhere in the bible or the quran that making money off of recorded music is some sort of basic human right? no, there is merely a legal convention from the last one hundred years only, when recorded music existed on physical medium. for thousands of years before that, and now forever more from this century on, you make money form live performance, patronage, ads, ancillary revenue, etc.
idiots gnashing their teeth over a hollow legal arrangement based on a technology that has been leapfrogged don't mean anything except an example of how people can be clueless
the words you say are in defense of a temporary power arrangement, physical media, that is almost done completely fading away
if the music companies were smart, they'd continue to operate the site
"we shut down the pirates! that will end this threat once and for all!"
(two weeks later, 20 more sites)
it should have been:
"this is a popular site. now that we own it we will modify it slightly so that we derive some revenue from it while not pissing off the listeners, thus gracefully transitioning to a new distribution model that listeners desire"