universal healthcare will result in longer lives and less healthcare spending in the usa. just like every other goddamn country with it
but, much like gun control, there is a certain feverish moron in my country that will never listen to reason on the subject, and he enabled by special interest groups in washington: the NRA and the healthcare insurers
maybe the feverish morons will shoot themselves and die waiting in the emergency room
asshole: there is no value in what you say. there is zero responsibility by the usa for anything iran does. really. if your point is to make some airhead nebulous statement of "it's all connected man" that's fine, but you should understand: there are many twits who actually believe anything iran does is actually the fault of usa. like: we did business with bin laden in the 1980s, therefore, we share blame for 9/11. do you believe that?
people really believe this ignorant shit. if your point is to just make some airhead "it's a small world after all!" observation then we have no argument
if, on the other hand, you believe the usa shares some blame for 9/11, then "you really are that shit-stupid."
if in the year 2040 i am elected president and nuke mecca, does bin laden share responsibility?
if tomorrow i go to a mosque and yank out a gun and start murdering innocent muslims going to prayer, is my guilt somehow less?
if i make a bad video and post it on youtube insulting muhammad, is it understandable to say i am not to blame?
do you see why this ignorant shit of yours is just lame excuse making?
OF COURSE 9/11 changed my life. for one, i got fired 2 months later because of the loss of business
but if I, ME, DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING BAD AFTER THAT, then I, and I alone, share blame and responsibility
do you understand?
causality is: i hit the ball with a bat and the ball flies the other way
but human beings aren't dumb objects: they have something called morality. and without personal accountability and responsibility, when you start making lame excuses for why something i did is not actually my fault, you've completely destroyed the ability to make any moral judgments, because without personal accountability and responsibility, morality itself is impossible
it's not about what happens to you, it's about how you react. and how you react defines who you are, and has nothing, nothing at all to do with what happened to you before. unless you want to cast entire countries and peoples as eternal victims, simply because of your own stunted inability to perceive the human beings around you, and instead perceive dumb mirror reflections of yourself
hey you know what? i just found out your grandfather murdered someone. report yourself to closest prison to serve your punishment
YES, ASSHOLE: if the perpetators are dead, IT'S OVER
justice for stealing a loaf of bread is punishment. not eternal damnation. that same logic scales to all crimes. otherwise, you're stuck with the balkans in the 1990s, where croats and serbs are murdering each other from stupid shit that happened in the 1500s. this is the world you want? endless victimization and recrimination?
justice has a statue of limitations. all justice. or it's not justice, it's a contrived hopped up excuse for more crime
but you go: bang on the door of the japanese embassy, demand reparations. go: bang on the door of the german consulate, demand blood for blood
I guess in your justice system, the bank robbers do split the sentence.
no, nitwit, in my justice system the sons of the bank robbers don't serve their father sentences
I really don't know how to express my disgust...
well i know how to express mine: you're an ignorant tool
the USA has zero responsibility for anything iran currently does
just like great britain bears zero responsibility for mugabe
or russia has zero responsibility for contemporary polish politics
or japan has zero responsible for what happens in machuria
really
the endless recrimination and victimization from shit in the middle of the last fucking century is a sucker's, a loser's game. it's pathetic, and simply and obviously nonsense, only useful for demagogues to control ignorant dimwits. i guess i'm talking to one right now
okay. so what does that mean about slavery. what does that mean about our nation's genocidal treatment of native americans?
but really it started before that. italy owes the world an apology for the brutal treatment the romans meted out on their neighbors. no wait, sorry, that's the greeks that owe reparations. no wait, the egyptians are to blame. i think modern iraq needs to apologize for the babylonians. iran too, for the brutal crimes of the sassanids
zzz...
there is sell-by date on all recriminations. justice is real, but justice has a sunset clause, or it's not really justice. if i steal a loaf of bread, i should be punished for that. that's justice. once, for a limited time. not be permanently cast into eternal punishment: that's not justice. after a certain length of crime, it's just history. to be learned from. not to bury oneself in in an endless cycle of victimization, where some other people or place or time is to blame for all of your problems in life.
the war in the balkans in the 1990s: you talk to the croats the serbs, the albanians, etc.: they'll bring up some stupid shit that happened in the 1500s, and then use that as an excuse to go kill some boys in the next town. is that justice? even now, greeks are now demanding war reparations from germany from wwii:
endless victimization is just a cynical political move. it's not right. it's not justice
it's bullshit
and so many people, like these fucking morons "well the usa did this in iran in the 1950s or did this in chile in the 1970s, so you know, let's go kill americans or blame americans for every goddamn bad thing that happens in the world: that's fair"
it's easy to say you are a victim, and blame all failings on some other person, time, or place. and take no responsibility for your own lot in life, even though that's the only way you ever win at anything
beat the population, you teach the population power and strength means beating the population. some break the cycle, but enough continue the brutality to keep the brutality going generation after generation
no country is immune from this
in the usa, we have a bunch of ignorant rural southerners who faithfully vote republican, even though they live shorter, unhealthier lives, because of republican policies
how is this possible? well, education is deemphasized: that's evil liberal indoctrination. so you get them with the constant litany of teaching ignorant things. that mr. CEO deserves his ridiculous salary because he worked hard to get it all by himself from scratch (pay no attention to the favor daddy called in to his country club chums to get him his first job). that the idea that he has to sit on a silver toilet, and not a gold toilet, so some of his workers get healthcare, is evil socialist redistribution
even more amazing: rural southerns will be shouting that redistribution is evil, even as the rural south receives the lions share of federal subsidies. amazing, isn't it? the ignorance, the blindness? get a kid young, you can teach him the craziest shit, and he will believe it and defend it, as a point of pride
my fellow americans: everyone should start out on the same footing, with good healthcare and good education, and where they wind up should be a simple reflection of how much hard work they do. a meritocracy. i believe in that
but what the hell that idea has to do with a predatorial class that uses those words to defend its existence, even as it redistributes money UP, making you poorer and unhealthier and your kids more stupid, is beyond me. why do so many fools who understand the idea of meritocracy, understand so strongly when a poor nonwhite women staying on welfare is wrong, but don't understand when mr. i-got-my-job-from-my-dad's-country-club-chums is bailed out and pays a ridiculously low tax rate: no, that's fair. wtf? wake the fuck up
america believes in working hard, you get your just rewards. the upside of this belief is that a lot people actually do just that. but plenty others work hard, and get shit, and don't perceive the class structures keeping them down. classism is alive and well in america, but america's work hard ethic masks the bad side effects of classism, people only blame themselves, not the class structures holding them down. in europe, they readily recognize classism. and so "evil socialist redstribution" isn't seen that way, but instead seen as a good correction for genuine class structures that keep the poor unfairly down
if everyone doesn't start on the same footing, you can't believe where they wind up is fair. you correct that by making sure everyone gets a good education and good healthcare. then you erase a lot of the unfairness of what is real and alive in america: class structures
see, i worked at the wtc until 9/11/2001. bin laden bombed the wtc, i lost my job. my entire life is now defined by that event. so, what i just wrote is not my responsibility, it is the responsibility of bin laden and saudi arabia
i'm going to rise up politically and in the year 2040 i am going to violently suppress a revolution in the usa when i am in power. but again, not my fault, saudi arabia's fault, because of 9/11
</sarcasm>
do you see how fucking stupid this ignorant bullshit sounds?
a court room merely provides the veneer of impartiality. the state controls the judges, the state controls everything. whatever verdict the state wants, it gets. actual justice is not the point. power and control is
russia still believes in the strong man mentality. one strong dude has to control all. this is viewed as strength. when of course, this is colossal weakness. many russians understand this. but if they speak out about it, they get jailed, censured, fired or otherwise ostracized. it's sad
as long as there is a large pool of russians that respect and believe in the idea of the big strong man, russia is doomed to mediocrity and, paradoxically, weakness
yes, the islamic world was in a golden age of science in medieval times while europe was busy smashing each other over the head in religious and tribal stupidity
and yes, iran has nothing to do with the invention or manufacture of the computers they currently use to wage cyberattacks on US banks
the west is now in a golden age of science and the islamic world is busy smashing each other over the head in religious and tribal stupidity
yes, the usa and the uk did bad things in the cold war. so did the soviet union. in fact, every single goddam country in the world has a black mark on its past from some point in its history
what does that mean? NOTHING. what the usa did in the cold war has zero, ZERO bearing on the beliefs and will and agenda of the actual iranians in charge of the actual country of iran today
are iranians an angry hive of bees? dumb forces of nature? i don't think so. but you think so: according to you, iranians are not real people, capable of their own motivations, ideas and thoughts. in your mind iranians are only cardboard cut out automatons, whose range of actions are confined to mirror image reflections... of what somebody did in the west 60 years ago!
colonialism is over. the cold war is dead. the point of history is to learn from it, not be TRAPPED in it
i mean let's put it this way: bin laden bombed the wtc on 9/11/2001. therefore, i can blame all politics in the usa since that point in time on saudi arabia. right? bush was elected again in 2004 because of bin laden. obama was elected in 2008 because of bin laden. the dream act being stymied out is because bin laden. iphone 5 is because of bin laden. it's the year 2045, some guy in the usa landed on mars. of course, because of what bin laden did in 2001
do you see how stupid this is?
i lose my patience with this condescending, patronizing ignorance where, in your mind, all sources of good, or bad, can only flow from the west
brain dead dipshit: there are actual people with their own original ideas in other parts of the world. shocking huh? (such as islamic rule, which was the basis of the iranian revolution in 1979... did the usa invent islamic rule?)
stop commenting on international issues, it's embarrassing
"one mutated birth isn't going to suddenly diffuse across an entire species."
you're right:
1. what happens is those without the mutation die or have less children or no children, or are confined to one small environmental niche 2. while those with the mutation live longer or have more children or move over a wider range taking advantage of a wider range of food
and you're wrong:
1. it could start with one single mutation in one individual 2. it does diffuse across an entire species: that's what sex is for 3. it does happen suddenly, on the time scale of geological time
The brave cyberwarriors of the theocracy can on one hand fight for the glory of their dogmatic institutions, while using the technology that the infidels invented, that they wouldn't even possess, without assembly in infidel lands.
How is God great when it is the godless who provides the tools used to prove God is great?
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universal healthcare will result in longer lives and less healthcare spending in the usa. just like every other goddamn country with it
but, much like gun control, there is a certain feverish moron in my country that will never listen to reason on the subject, and he enabled by special interest groups in washington: the NRA and the healthcare insurers
maybe the feverish morons will shoot themselves and die waiting in the emergency room
a toast to the future of a russia that shakes off its strong men affections, and a hope that it is as painless as possible
where is peter the great when we need him!
asshole: there is no value in what you say. there is zero responsibility by the usa for anything iran does. really. if your point is to make some airhead nebulous statement of "it's all connected man" that's fine, but you should understand: there are many twits who actually believe anything iran does is actually the fault of usa. like: we did business with bin laden in the 1980s, therefore, we share blame for 9/11. do you believe that?
people really believe this ignorant shit. if your point is to just make some airhead "it's a small world after all!" observation then we have no argument
if, on the other hand, you believe the usa shares some blame for 9/11, then "you really are that shit-stupid."
i worked at the wtc until 9/11/2001. no, really
what does this mean?
if in the year 2040 i am elected president and nuke mecca, does bin laden share responsibility?
if tomorrow i go to a mosque and yank out a gun and start murdering innocent muslims going to prayer, is my guilt somehow less?
if i make a bad video and post it on youtube insulting muhammad, is it understandable to say i am not to blame?
do you see why this ignorant shit of yours is just lame excuse making?
OF COURSE 9/11 changed my life. for one, i got fired 2 months later because of the loss of business
but if I, ME, DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING BAD AFTER THAT, then I, and I alone, share blame and responsibility
do you understand?
causality is: i hit the ball with a bat and the ball flies the other way
but human beings aren't dumb objects: they have something called morality. and without personal accountability and responsibility, when you start making lame excuses for why something i did is not actually my fault, you've completely destroyed the ability to make any moral judgments, because without personal accountability and responsibility, morality itself is impossible
it's not about what happens to you, it's about how you react. and how you react defines who you are, and has nothing, nothing at all to do with what happened to you before. unless you want to cast entire countries and peoples as eternal victims, simply because of your own stunted inability to perceive the human beings around you, and instead perceive dumb mirror reflections of yourself
Who put all of that oil under our sands?
Oil is great! Sorry, I mean, God is great!
it's all like cosmic dude, it's all connected. like somebody did that and then like this happened over there. whoa
so like, i'm responsible for everything in the world man! heavy!
pass the doobage on the left hand side
hey you know what? i just found out your grandfather murdered someone. report yourself to closest prison to serve your punishment
YES, ASSHOLE: if the perpetators are dead, IT'S OVER
justice for stealing a loaf of bread is punishment. not eternal damnation. that same logic scales to all crimes. otherwise, you're stuck with the balkans in the 1990s, where croats and serbs are murdering each other from stupid shit that happened in the 1500s. this is the world you want? endless victimization and recrimination?
justice has a statue of limitations. all justice. or it's not justice, it's a contrived hopped up excuse for more crime
but you go: bang on the door of the japanese embassy, demand reparations. go: bang on the door of the german consulate, demand blood for blood
I guess in your justice system, the bank robbers do split the sentence.
no, nitwit, in my justice system the sons of the bank robbers don't serve their father sentences
I really don't know how to express my disgust...
well i know how to express mine: you're an ignorant tool
will it ever change?
kind of like china
only whack them when they get big enough
all hail soft autocracy
mod parent up
anyone in the south still holding ill feelings about the civil war are losers
here's the deal: if the assholes who committed the crimes are still alive, have at them. otherwise, it's history. move on or wallow in victimization
the USA has zero responsibility for anything iran currently does
just like great britain bears zero responsibility for mugabe
or russia has zero responsibility for contemporary polish politics
or japan has zero responsible for what happens in machuria
really
the endless recrimination and victimization from shit in the middle of the last fucking century is a sucker's, a loser's game. it's pathetic, and simply and obviously nonsense, only useful for demagogues to control ignorant dimwits. i guess i'm talking to one right now
my argument is: if it happened in the distant past, don't use it for recrimination and permanent victimization
and no one is innocent
got it?
okay. so what does that mean about slavery. what does that mean about our nation's genocidal treatment of native americans?
but really it started before that. italy owes the world an apology for the brutal treatment the romans meted out on their neighbors. no wait, sorry, that's the greeks that owe reparations. no wait, the egyptians are to blame. i think modern iraq needs to apologize for the babylonians. iran too, for the brutal crimes of the sassanids
zzz...
there is sell-by date on all recriminations. justice is real, but justice has a sunset clause, or it's not really justice. if i steal a loaf of bread, i should be punished for that. that's justice. once, for a limited time. not be permanently cast into eternal punishment: that's not justice. after a certain length of crime, it's just history. to be learned from. not to bury oneself in in an endless cycle of victimization, where some other people or place or time is to blame for all of your problems in life.
the war in the balkans in the 1990s: you talk to the croats the serbs, the albanians, etc.: they'll bring up some stupid shit that happened in the 1500s, and then use that as an excuse to go kill some boys in the next town. is that justice? even now, greeks are now demanding war reparations from germany from wwii:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9537451/Greeks-eye-war-reparations-from-Germany-as-markets-await-euro-ruling.html
is this right?
how about the anti-japanese protest in china:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/18/world/asia/china-japan-islands-dispute/index.html
is that right?
endless victimization is just a cynical political move. it's not right. it's not justice
it's bullshit
and so many people, like these fucking morons "well the usa did this in iran in the 1950s or did this in chile in the 1970s, so you know, let's go kill americans or blame americans for every goddamn bad thing that happens in the world: that's fair"
fucking ignorance
it's easy to say you are a victim, and blame all failings on some other person, time, or place. and take no responsibility for your own lot in life, even though that's the only way you ever win at anything
in a way, yes
beat the population, you teach the population power and strength means beating the population. some break the cycle, but enough continue the brutality to keep the brutality going generation after generation
no country is immune from this
in the usa, we have a bunch of ignorant rural southerners who faithfully vote republican, even though they live shorter, unhealthier lives, because of republican policies
how is this possible? well, education is deemphasized: that's evil liberal indoctrination. so you get them with the constant litany of teaching ignorant things. that mr. CEO deserves his ridiculous salary because he worked hard to get it all by himself from scratch (pay no attention to the favor daddy called in to his country club chums to get him his first job). that the idea that he has to sit on a silver toilet, and not a gold toilet, so some of his workers get healthcare, is evil socialist redistribution
even more amazing: rural southerns will be shouting that redistribution is evil, even as the rural south receives the lions share of federal subsidies. amazing, isn't it? the ignorance, the blindness? get a kid young, you can teach him the craziest shit, and he will believe it and defend it, as a point of pride
my fellow americans: everyone should start out on the same footing, with good healthcare and good education, and where they wind up should be a simple reflection of how much hard work they do. a meritocracy. i believe in that
but what the hell that idea has to do with a predatorial class that uses those words to defend its existence, even as it redistributes money UP, making you poorer and unhealthier and your kids more stupid, is beyond me. why do so many fools who understand the idea of meritocracy, understand so strongly when a poor nonwhite women staying on welfare is wrong, but don't understand when mr. i-got-my-job-from-my-dad's-country-club-chums is bailed out and pays a ridiculously low tax rate: no, that's fair. wtf? wake the fuck up
america believes in working hard, you get your just rewards. the upside of this belief is that a lot people actually do just that. but plenty others work hard, and get shit, and don't perceive the class structures keeping them down. classism is alive and well in america, but america's work hard ethic masks the bad side effects of classism, people only blame themselves, not the class structures holding them down. in europe, they readily recognize classism. and so "evil socialist redstribution" isn't seen that way, but instead seen as a good correction for genuine class structures that keep the poor unfairly down
if everyone doesn't start on the same footing, you can't believe where they wind up is fair. you correct that by making sure everyone gets a good education and good healthcare. then you erase a lot of the unfairness of what is real and alive in america: class structures
see, i worked at the wtc until 9/11/2001. bin laden bombed the wtc, i lost my job. my entire life is now defined by that event. so, what i just wrote is not my responsibility, it is the responsibility of bin laden and saudi arabia
i'm going to rise up politically and in the year 2040 i am going to violently suppress a revolution in the usa when i am in power. but again, not my fault, saudi arabia's fault, because of 9/11
</sarcasm>
do you see how fucking stupid this ignorant bullshit sounds?
it's russian justice. which is an oxymoron
a court room merely provides the veneer of impartiality. the state controls the judges, the state controls everything. whatever verdict the state wants, it gets. actual justice is not the point. power and control is
russia still believes in the strong man mentality. one strong dude has to control all. this is viewed as strength. when of course, this is colossal weakness. many russians understand this. but if they speak out about it, they get jailed, censured, fired or otherwise ostracized. it's sad
as long as there is a large pool of russians that respect and believe in the idea of the big strong man, russia is doomed to mediocrity and, paradoxically, weakness
it's called an analogy
here let me help you:
algebra
alcohol
algorithm
alkali
alchemy
almanac
etc., off the top of my head
yes, the islamic world was in a golden age of science in medieval times while europe was busy smashing each other over the head in religious and tribal stupidity
and yes, iran has nothing to do with the invention or manufacture of the computers they currently use to wage cyberattacks on US banks
the west is now in a golden age of science and the islamic world is busy smashing each other over the head in religious and tribal stupidity
it's a theocracy, my friend. a THEOCRACY
yes, the usa and the uk did bad things in the cold war. so did the soviet union. in fact, every single goddam country in the world has a black mark on its past from some point in its history
what does that mean? NOTHING. what the usa did in the cold war has zero, ZERO bearing on the beliefs and will and agenda of the actual iranians in charge of the actual country of iran today
are iranians an angry hive of bees? dumb forces of nature? i don't think so. but you think so: according to you, iranians are not real people, capable of their own motivations, ideas and thoughts. in your mind iranians are only cardboard cut out automatons, whose range of actions are confined to mirror image reflections... of what somebody did in the west 60 years ago!
colonialism is over. the cold war is dead. the point of history is to learn from it, not be TRAPPED in it
i mean let's put it this way: bin laden bombed the wtc on 9/11/2001. therefore, i can blame all politics in the usa since that point in time on saudi arabia. right? bush was elected again in 2004 because of bin laden. obama was elected in 2008 because of bin laden. the dream act being stymied out is because bin laden. iphone 5 is because of bin laden. it's the year 2045, some guy in the usa landed on mars. of course, because of what bin laden did in 2001
do you see how stupid this is?
i lose my patience with this condescending, patronizing ignorance where, in your mind, all sources of good, or bad, can only flow from the west
brain dead dipshit: there are actual people with their own original ideas in other parts of the world. shocking huh? (such as islamic rule, which was the basis of the iranian revolution in 1979... did the usa invent islamic rule?)
stop commenting on international issues, it's embarrassing
"one mutated birth isn't going to suddenly diffuse across an entire species."
you're right:
1. what happens is those without the mutation die or have less children or no children, or are confined to one small environmental niche
2. while those with the mutation live longer or have more children or move over a wider range taking advantage of a wider range of food
and you're wrong:
1. it could start with one single mutation in one individual
2. it does diffuse across an entire species: that's what sex is for
3. it does happen suddenly, on the time scale of geological time
The brave cyberwarriors of the theocracy can on one hand fight for the glory of their dogmatic institutions, while using the technology that the infidels invented, that they wouldn't even possess, without assembly in infidel lands.
How is God great when it is the godless who provides the tools used to prove God is great?
"Chattel" is old french. It means... drum roll please... cattle.