You could argue all the levels at which windows boxen are patched counts as "diversity";-)
KIDDING!!!
The article does miss a more important point that they do touch upon [sadly I'm siding with MSFT here...] is that "if you don't fence in the crops deer will eat it all".
A stupid windows user will be an even more stupid linux user. Sorry to tell y'all this. Them the breaks.
What's worse is distros like Redhat which feature binary updates are totally not scalable. Gentoo is one decent approach but requires a hell of a lot of patience to get going [and update when things like KDE pop up].
All in all, MSFT sucks for being slow with updates and for using proprietary standards. Most OSS sucks for being hard to configure [for newbies] and occasionally slow/tiresome to deal with.
So moral? Update as much as you can, don't run every binary you find, use a virus scanner [keep it up to date] and use a firewall. Heck even the stupid WinXP firewall is sufficient to protect users from most default settings virii [e.g. messenger virus, etc].
Not to get picky but the AthlonXP and Athon are essentially the same core [all the way up through Barton].
The only real diffs are the cache size [but even the manual notes the limitations of the core with TLB entries], transistor size and addition of SSE. The actual execution engine is the same design [hence the same cycle counts].
Not saying the Athlon isn't a good core. I've had about five diff athlons [and I made sure my laptop would have one] but it isn't as if they jump leap and bounds with their newer processors.
They've always lacked in certain areas. For instance, the cache bus is 64-bits which kills some load times [17 cycle latency to L2 cache according to cpuid from cpuid.com] and SSE load/stores take two load/store buffers.
Also the decode engine still is the same in terms of window size [eight bytes]. So if you can't pack three instructions per window you lose. The only way to get a 3IPC then is if previously decoded instructions stall and one of the three schedulers is free.
They still have a six cycle multiply [I dunno if they can make this faster...] for the ALU. Even if they dropped this to 4 it would rock.
They still don't have good idle support [e.g. Barton 3000+ always runs at 2.1Ghz regardless of what it is doing], etc..
Intel has changed in many respects. While I hate the P4 pipeline they have kept a huge cache bus, their cpus can scale nicely [re: you can remove the heatsink of a P4] in terms of heat, etc. Their cache also have low latency and their decode engine now uses a trace.
If they only made their core slightly more efficient [re: not rely on Mhz myth] we might see an Intel core that competes on the MIPS level with a comparable clock rate AMD core.
Without actual experience with USB cards [I imagine it's similar to adding UART cards were back in the day] the answer is yes. Your onboard ports will still be 1.1 but the new ports [which have their own USB hub thingy] should be.
Best of all is ask the clerk this question, then ask about a refund if it doesn't work the way he said. Get it all on tape.
If it doesn't work then bring it back. If they refuse play the tape. if they still refuse then get fancy with a bullhorn and play the tape all day long;-)
Um if anything I think the opposite is true. The only reason people really buy games as opposed to say pirating them is that developers make it a living hell in most cases [e.g. cd-keys, checks, lack of updates] for the pirater.
Sure I know some friends who buy games out of loyalty but they are also the same people who in a pinch will pirate a game for a year than buy it "to not feel guilty" [coincidentally when the price of the game has gone down by 30$]
Developers do have a form of "free advertising" though, in case you are wondering. It's called playable demos.
Which is exactly the point. Windows too can be secure. So saying "windows is less secure than Linux" is bullshit. I can update my software, remove services I don't use and firewall the thing up, etc...
The point is linux is *much easier* to setup incorrectly compared to Windows [heck XP SP1 home installs with the firewall turned on which guards against all recent exploits I've heard of].
If you take windows users now and jump them to linux they'll just login as root and install random binary patches because they're too lazy to build source or run as a secure user.
"It is a non-argument because it basically says "If you use Linux insecurely, it will be insecure." "
No his point was if windows users used linux like they do windows then Linux wouldn't look so hot. Sure linux has few security exploit reports. That's because most linux users are so far half way intelligent about security.
""Fact" #3 has been tried and refuted many times. It is not secure because it is not as common."
Have you seen the kernel exploit lists for the 2.4.xx series? I thought not.
I don't like the GPL if that's what you mean... but I do happen to write some public domain software as well as a public domain textbook (included in the LibTomMath package).
HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 21:07:24 GMT Content-type: text/html Page-Completion-Status: Normal Page-Completion-Status: Normal Page-Completion-Status: Normal
[Yes, that last bit repeated three times].
I can only wonder why they would write an article like this, oh, I know, they're full of shit MCSE "developers" getting pissed off at all the attention OSS has been getting lately.
fought hard? To steal the country from the original habitants......not exactly something to be proud of.
um you pay taxes not for jobs [though most governments in 1st tier countries run job boards and social nets, well at least Canada does] but for social programs like education, highways, sewage, waste, government paper pushing, etc...
The whole idea of limiting jobs to one market isn't a sound idea anyways. Variation is what makes any population strong and that includes job markets too.
It wasn't a boon to begin with. You have to bubble something up for it to burst. Not every moron and their brother who puts a face on "old technology" is an industry leader and going to revolutionize the world.
I'm sorry, but the way you/. editors idolize the stupidest people really irks me. Let's get the facts straight. Napster was a cool idea when it was new. It was horribly written buggy software but the concept was cool. However, while mr. Napster was off doing whatever it is he does 300 others have written their own edonkey's and kazaas and winmx which are like a billion times better.
Anyways, getting back to the point. Not all business models are sustainable and are rarely thought out for the long term. Hence the
1. Stupid action 2. ??? 3. Profit
jokes. So how about we idolize the players who are not in it to make the quick buck but to actually help progress society and technology?
Who uses linux anyways... stupid hippies... next thing you know they'll all be living in communes...
More importantly if Mr. Dell is so brave and "right" why not stop being Bills bitch and just say "customers, you can have Windows, Linux, BSD or Nadda, it's *your* choice"?
That way he can still sell windows [which most will buy] and not be such a bitch.
Oh and rinse and repeat this with non-ATI graphics cards and non-Intel cpus. Then we should be set;-)
Last time I checked the extra +200$ for a P4 of equal [and often lesser] performance than an athlon just ain't worth it.
I'm a Canadian who pays taxes. So should I bitch that there are many jobs in the states? That obviously doesn't make any sense.
American companies are seeking overseas employment because it's cheap and they're greedy. However, in the long run it will balance out anyways [cuz the increased revenue leads to higher quality of life expectations....] so really instead of jumping all up and down like a madman learn to work with the flow of things.
Obviously bitching about it isn't the solution. Since in the end, don't you want a higher quality of life for others?
Um? What the fuck. I never said Canada was perfect neither. I just said "exporting america" as CNN calls it will balance out in the end. Truth be told what gives you the fucking right to have a job anyways?
If some company wants to hire overseas [or heck, let's just say NOT BE AMERICAN] that's their choice. Sure you don't have to support it but legislation is not the answer.
The truth of the matter is there are only so many "good jobs" out there and we can't employ everyone at the same time [specially since some countries keep churning out kids...]
When american was booming in the early 1900's it wasn't well educated academics building roads and buildings, etc... And I bet the irish fobs that built the major cities weren't paid the same as everyone else.
So what's your fucking point? Eventually with all the money going overseas they will want to buy more things, have bigger houses, more cars, etc... and the quality [and cost] of life will go up.
Eventually there will be some form of balance that will ensure jobs are available. Of course you can still vote with your dollars. Don't buy things made overseas but that just prolongs the problem [doesn't fix it].
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the most primitive CMOS gate a NAND gate? So I highly doubt you would make AND out of and XOR gate [XOR being the more costly of the three].
There is a difference between being anonymous and private. If I know who you are and you are in a public place you're location is obviously not private.
That's why when people bitch about cameras in public I often get very upset because there are better reasons to get upset [hey like buying from slave labour overseas, the fact they waste their money on the surveillance, etc...]
Also I don't think I said "you have to identify yourself in public". My point is if you want to remain totally seclusive don't go mix in public. Really that simple.
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You could argue all the levels at which windows boxen are patched counts as "diversity" ;-)
KIDDING!!!
The article does miss a more important point that they do touch upon [sadly I'm siding with MSFT here...] is that "if you don't fence in the crops deer will eat it all".
A stupid windows user will be an even more stupid linux user. Sorry to tell y'all this. Them the breaks.
What's worse is distros like Redhat which feature binary updates are totally not scalable. Gentoo is one decent approach but requires a hell of a lot of patience to get going [and update when things like KDE pop up].
All in all, MSFT sucks for being slow with updates and for using proprietary standards. Most OSS sucks for being hard to configure [for newbies] and occasionally slow/tiresome to deal with.
So moral? Update as much as you can, don't run every binary you find, use a virus scanner [keep it up to date] and use a firewall. Heck even the stupid WinXP firewall is sufficient to protect users from most default settings virii [e.g. messenger virus, etc].
Tom
Not to get picky but the AthlonXP and Athon are essentially the same core [all the way up through Barton].
The only real diffs are the cache size [but even the manual notes the limitations of the core with TLB entries], transistor size and addition of SSE. The actual execution engine is the same design [hence the same cycle counts].
Not saying the Athlon isn't a good core. I've had about five diff athlons [and I made sure my laptop would have one] but it isn't as if they jump leap and bounds with their newer processors.
They've always lacked in certain areas. For instance, the cache bus is 64-bits which kills some load times [17 cycle latency to L2 cache according to cpuid from cpuid.com] and SSE load/stores take two load/store buffers.
Also the decode engine still is the same in terms of window size [eight bytes]. So if you can't pack three instructions per window you lose. The only way to get a 3IPC then is if previously decoded instructions stall and one of the three schedulers is free.
They still have a six cycle multiply [I dunno if they can make this faster...] for the ALU. Even if they dropped this to 4 it would rock.
They still don't have good idle support [e.g. Barton 3000+ always runs at 2.1Ghz regardless of what it is doing], etc..
Intel has changed in many respects. While I hate the P4 pipeline they have kept a huge cache bus, their cpus can scale nicely [re: you can remove the heatsink of a P4] in terms of heat, etc. Their cache also have low latency and their decode engine now uses a trace.
If they only made their core slightly more efficient [re: not rely on Mhz myth] we might see an Intel core that competes on the MIPS level with a comparable clock rate AMD core.
Tom
Without actual experience with USB cards [I imagine it's similar to adding UART cards were back in the day] the answer is yes. Your onboard ports will still be 1.1 but the new ports [which have their own USB hub thingy] should be.
;-)
Best of all is ask the clerk this question, then ask about a refund if it doesn't work the way he said. Get it all on tape.
If it doesn't work then bring it back. If they refuse play the tape. if they still refuse then get fancy with a bullhorn and play the tape all day long
Tom
Um if anything I think the opposite is true. The only reason people really buy games as opposed to say pirating them is that developers make it a living hell in most cases [e.g. cd-keys, checks, lack of updates] for the pirater.
Sure I know some friends who buy games out of loyalty but they are also the same people who in a pinch will pirate a game for a year than buy it "to not feel guilty" [coincidentally when the price of the game has gone down by 30$]
Developers do have a form of "free advertising" though, in case you are wondering. It's called playable demos.
Tom
Which is exactly the point. Windows too can be secure. So saying "windows is less secure than Linux" is bullshit. I can update my software, remove services I don't use and firewall the thing up, etc...
The point is linux is *much easier* to setup incorrectly compared to Windows [heck XP SP1 home installs with the firewall turned on which guards against all recent exploits I've heard of].
If you take windows users now and jump them to linux they'll just login as root and install random binary patches because they're too lazy to build source or run as a secure user.
Tom
"It is a non-argument because it basically says "If you use Linux insecurely, it will be insecure." "
No his point was if windows users used linux like they do windows then Linux wouldn't look so hot. Sure linux has few security exploit reports. That's because most linux users are so far half way intelligent about security.
""Fact" #3 has been tried and refuted many times. It is not secure because it is not as common."
Have you seen the kernel exploit lists for the 2.4.xx series? I thought not.
Tom
Dude, update your .sig, Dean ain't gonna win.
;-)
Tom
I don't like the GPL if that's what you mean... but I do happen to write some public domain software as well as a public domain textbook (included in the LibTomMath package).
Tom
Oh yeah, see this for a good example of closed source software in action.
Tom
lynx --head www.devx.com
produces
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 21:07:24 GMT
Content-type: text/html
Page-Completion-Status: Normal
Page-Completion-Status: Normal
Page-Completion-Status: Normal
[Yes, that last bit repeated three times].
I can only wonder why they would write an article like this, oh, I know, they're full of shit MCSE "developers" getting pissed off at all the attention OSS has been getting lately.
Tom
But if only smart people survive um? Won't that look bad for the rest of us normies?
I think they made an outer limits episode out of this where the new humans could "stream"....
Tom
fought hard? To steal the country from the original habitants......not exactly something to be proud of.
um you pay taxes not for jobs [though most governments in 1st tier countries run job boards and social nets, well at least Canada does] but for social programs like education, highways, sewage, waste, government paper pushing, etc...
The whole idea of limiting jobs to one market isn't a sound idea anyways. Variation is what makes any population strong and that includes job markets too.
Sorry life sucks. Thems the breaks.
mv is not a dos command.
Nor is the for syntax you used. Nor is the `` syntax.... blah blah blah.
Admit it. I 0wnz your 1337 coding skillz.
Tom
The question was how todo that in windows. Using cygwin is cheating. Besides you'd want to
for i in `ls DSC*` ; do mv $i Wedding_`echo $i | sed -e "s/DSC//"` ; done
[or something like that]. Who wants to see that DSC crap there?
I dunno. In most of my boxes it's the hard disk + cdrom that die [stupid moving parts] before anything else.
;-)
Though I agree the P4 has better thermal management
Tom
It wasn't a boon to begin with. You have to bubble something up for it to burst. Not every moron and their brother who puts a face on "old technology" is an industry leader and going to revolutionize the world.
/. editors idolize the stupidest people really irks me. Let's get the facts straight. Napster was a cool idea when it was new. It was horribly written buggy software but the concept was cool. However, while mr. Napster was off doing whatever it is he does 300 others have written their own edonkey's and kazaas and winmx which are like a billion times better.
I'm sorry, but the way you
Anyways, getting back to the point. Not all business models are sustainable and are rarely thought out for the long term. Hence the
1. Stupid action
2. ???
3. Profit
jokes. So how about we idolize the players who are not in it to make the quick buck but to actually help progress society and technology?
Tom
you *can* do this to some limited sense with the command shell
for %a in (DSC*.JPG) do rename %a Wedding_%a
You just have to know a bit about the command shell...
Tom
Who uses linux anyways... stupid hippies... next thing you know they'll all be living in communes...
;-)
More importantly if Mr. Dell is so brave and "right" why not stop being Bills bitch and just say "customers, you can have Windows, Linux, BSD or Nadda, it's *your* choice"?
That way he can still sell windows [which most will buy] and not be such a bitch.
Oh and rinse and repeat this with non-ATI graphics cards and non-Intel cpus. Then we should be set
Last time I checked the extra +200$ for a P4 of equal [and often lesser] performance than an athlon just ain't worth it.
Tom
What does paying taxes have todo with anything?
I'm a Canadian who pays taxes. So should I bitch that there are many jobs in the states? That obviously doesn't make any sense.
American companies are seeking overseas employment because it's cheap and they're greedy. However, in the long run it will balance out anyways [cuz the increased revenue leads to higher quality of life expectations....] so really instead of jumping all up and down like a madman learn to work with the flow of things.
Obviously bitching about it isn't the solution. Since in the end, don't you want a higher quality of life for others?
Tom
Um? What the fuck. I never said Canada was perfect neither. I just said "exporting america" as CNN calls it will balance out in the end. Truth be told what gives you the fucking right to have a job anyways?
If some company wants to hire overseas [or heck, let's just say NOT BE AMERICAN] that's their choice. Sure you don't have to support it but legislation is not the answer.
The truth of the matter is there are only so many "good jobs" out there and we can't employ everyone at the same time [specially since some countries keep churning out kids...]
Tom
Short sighted.
When american was booming in the early 1900's it wasn't well educated academics building roads and buildings, etc... And I bet the irish fobs that built the major cities weren't paid the same as everyone else.
So what's your fucking point? Eventually with all the money going overseas they will want to buy more things, have bigger houses, more cars, etc... and the quality [and cost] of life will go up.
Eventually there will be some form of balance that will ensure jobs are available. Of course you can still vote with your dollars. Don't buy things made overseas but that just prolongs the problem [doesn't fix it].
So why not have some patience?
Tom
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the most primitive CMOS gate a NAND gate? So I highly doubt you would make AND out of and XOR gate [XOR being the more costly of the three].
Tom
There is a difference between being anonymous and private. If I know who you are and you are in a public place you're location is obviously not private.
That's why when people bitch about cameras in public I often get very upset because there are better reasons to get upset [hey like buying from slave labour overseas, the fact they waste their money on the surveillance, etc...]
Also I don't think I said "you have to identify yourself in public". My point is if you want to remain totally seclusive don't go mix in public. Really that simple.
Tom
Shit, post anonymously wasn't checked? Ahhh dang dang double dang!
;-)
Tom
I will pay 1000$ to anyone who seeks out and beats the living daylights out of a spammer. With as many pics on the web as possible for posterity.
Screw these filters and shit. Start creaming spammers worldwide and they'll think twice about it.
Tom