See to bash windows is easy. Point the finger at Redmond and call "liar!".
Who exactly represents this "Linux" thing I hear of. To me the whole scene just reaks of ignorance. First off "Linux" is just the kernel. Not the userland. Second, most changes to the kernel are driver fixes and additionals. Security flaws fixes are rare.
Third and most imporantly, there is more than one distro of linux. Just because one may be out of date and insecure doesn't mean "linux" is insecure.
Tom
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Actually no. Those users are part of the Administrators [re: root] group. Check yer users settings sometime:-)
You're kidding right? Most late comers to computers learn through not understanding the concepts of a menu or dialog or etc but through memorization.
Take where I work for instance, a postal outlet. We use NT4 for our terminals. I can bet dollars to donuts if a few buttons were moved and say a key map or two switched it would take weeks of retraining to get people back upto speed.
Want to weigh something? F3... always! Want to pay cash? F2 always!...
Want to play "MS Money" Start -> Programs -> MSMoney... ALWAYS!
This is why I was arguing it's important to get used to thinking of how the interfaces are meant to be used. E.g. if I change "Start" to "Begin" in windows you shouldn't be lost. If I ask you to copy a file from a CD to your root that shouldn't involve a manual...
Just like everything is homestyle, homemade and all natural.
Rule 1 in marketing is to ploy on the F.U.D of people.
I mean I simply must own a swifter so I can use 28 pads to clean my floor and throw more plastic [or whatever they're made of] in the trash. Then I simply must by bottled water and leave the containers all over the place.
Not to mention bitch about gas prices while filling my 2500kg behemoth land-yacht.
People like being able to feel empowered...e.g. "look I'm so rich I can just throw this shit out".
Meh... maybe it's the manham canner in me or the bottle mangoo on the desk but I really think an ounce of critical thinking is what the mass really needs. Put marketing droids out of work.
Your post was nothing more half-ass troll. You're telling me people who know windows will be proficient in Linux?
Yeah fucking right. Hell half of the people who claim to know windows can hardly install a patch or two let alone run and maintain a linux box.
As for the "oh what use is it [re: apple ii]" sure you won't be playing "geoworld learner II" at work for money but the idea of using a computer [e.g. typing, working with media, etc...] is as fundamental as learning how to grip a pencil [which as I recall they taught us in early grades].
I'd agree if a school were still using an apple II now I would call them a bit dated...
You learn how to talk with people way earlier on. If by age 12 you're kid doesn't know how to socialize... well you might as well just tatoo "weirdo" on his forehead.
Quite frankly in this day in age you should [as an adult] be fairly comfortable with computers. This is why we have the dime a dozen "computer programmer" who after finishing a two month program [without having seen a computer before] is now a professional.
I dunno. In my school we had the apple IIs in kindergarden. We were only allowed like 10 mins a day or something [e.g. one lesson or game]. By age 12 most kids in my class were fairly apt at using MacOS [was System6 at the time]. And I don't think the majority of people from my class are inept anti-socialites...
The way I look at it forcing Linux or MacOS [only] on students is just as bad. I think students at an early age should get experience with all three. Really by time a student is 16 or so they ought to know how to use at least two of the prominent desktop OSes.
Why not just establish a web-o-trust and sign patches?
That way people who hack in won't be able to send in signed patches to the system [e.g. even if they physicially update the tree others can trivially spot the unsigned patches].
That would of course, require people to actually think about security in terms of "oh sure people won't hack it because it hasn't been done...much...before."
Why not do something like the Transmeta processors though? Even in a desktop I can't imagine that being a bad idea.
E.g. write CMS programs for x86, PPC and heck allow native VLIW too.
If the Efficeon gets the performance per Watt they are claiming that's amazing. At 7 watts that's about 10 times less than the average P4/Athlon desktop processor.
Yeah less leakage good but faster? Who gives a shit if your processor is 3.3Ghz. Has anyone actually checked the specs of the P4? Things like 15 cycle multiplies, 1.5 cycle ADC/SBB, etc...
How's about they make the better transistor and say a non-x86 core that's actually efficient.
One thing that perplexes me is why VLIW is not more popular. Think about it. Spend a ton of energy *once* at compile time to schedule/optimize the code then just run the parallel ops. Why should the CPU do the work of a compiler at runtime?
To me that would save a heck of a lot more power than just better tranistors running at 10Ghz. Transmeta seems to agree:-)
why can't they invent smarter, more tolerant, more enlightened people. Now that would truly be an invention worthy of mention.
Killing people is easy [turns around and breaks neck of loud sand nigger neighbour in lab]. But putting up with people [like lound sand nigger behind me] is truly an effort!
This is showing evidence in favour that activation schemes are just plain bad business. E.g. the potential money you save by hindering piracy minus the lost sales due to pissed off customers => positive or negative?
This message was brought to you by the Manham Canning CanManer Tom St Denis.
What you forgot to ask is usage. Are these 600 linux pc's going 5% used while the winxp are 95% used?
I know in my college of advanced [re: l33t] technology it's all window'ed up because nobody is smart enough to realize that free software isn't just a catchy name [it's actually free].
My schools board will actually buy site licenses for things like Office because they get a "discount" [for being MSFT whores I presume]. But if that were truly the reason they would just use OpenOffice on GNU/Linux + KDE or so... which has a much higher discount.
I seriously doubt that. Most people who pirate windows aren't the linux type. Specially since pirating windows is generally not that hard.
And what you seem to fail to recognize is that Linux isn't always the alternative. For instance, for my job I code windows software. If I ran a pirated copy of windows and was shut off....I'd go out and buy a copy of windows. [Fortunately my laptop came with windows *and* the cds].
128MB is definitely a bit low but not too low as to be unusable. 256MB is a good balanced. Specially for a laptop where you're not going to run any heavy processing/server applications.
Heck my compaq laptop [2100 series] with 256MB of ram is enough to deal with gcc while playing shit via winamp, browsing the web and chatting on gaim.
The trick though is to disable all preinstalled software it comes with. For example, when I first turned this box on it had about a dozen "helper" applications loaded all of which took about 30MB of ram. First thing I did was turn them off [and unused services].
That being said 512MB would be nice for cache purposes but it isn't really required.
When you pay by CC you are promissing to pay it later. So you are paying for it.
The difference is you're committed to buying it before you try the CD out at home. See if you just allow anyone to try the CD out at home they're not likely to actually pay for it at all.
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See to bash windows is easy. Point the finger at Redmond and call "liar!".
Who exactly represents this "Linux" thing I hear of. To me the whole scene just reaks of ignorance. First off "Linux" is just the kernel. Not the userland. Second, most changes to the kernel are driver fixes and additionals. Security flaws fixes are rare.
Third and most imporantly, there is more than one distro of linux. Just because one may be out of date and insecure doesn't mean "linux" is insecure.
Tom
Actually no. Those users are part of the Administrators [re: root] group. Check yer users settings sometime :-)
Tom
You're kidding right? Most late comers to computers learn through not understanding the concepts of a menu or dialog or etc but through memorization.
... always! Want to pay cash? F2 always!...
... ALWAYS!
Take where I work for instance, a postal outlet. We use NT4 for our terminals. I can bet dollars to donuts if a few buttons were moved and say a key map or two switched it would take weeks of retraining to get people back upto speed.
Want to weigh something? F3
Want to play "MS Money" Start -> Programs -> MSMoney
This is why I was arguing it's important to get used to thinking of how the interfaces are meant to be used. E.g. if I change "Start" to "Begin" in windows you shouldn't be lost. If I ask you to copy a file from a CD to your root that shouldn't involve a manual...
Tom
Just like everything is homestyle, homemade and all natural.
Rule 1 in marketing is to ploy on the F.U.D of people.
I mean I simply must own a swifter so I can use 28 pads to clean my floor and throw more plastic [or whatever they're made of] in the trash. Then I simply must by bottled water and leave the containers all over the place.
Not to mention bitch about gas prices while filling my 2500kg behemoth land-yacht.
People like being able to feel empowered...e.g. "look I'm so rich I can just throw this shit out".
Meh... maybe it's the manham canner in me or the bottle mangoo on the desk but I really think an ounce of critical thinking is what the mass really needs. Put marketing droids out of work.
Tom
Your post was nothing more half-ass troll. You're telling me people who know windows will be proficient in Linux?
Yeah fucking right. Hell half of the people who claim to know windows can hardly install a patch or two let alone run and maintain a linux box.
As for the "oh what use is it [re: apple ii]" sure you won't be playing "geoworld learner II" at work for money but the idea of using a computer [e.g. typing, working with media, etc...] is as fundamental as learning how to grip a pencil [which as I recall they taught us in early grades].
I'd agree if a school were still using an apple II now I would call them a bit dated...
Tom
You learn how to talk with people way earlier on. If by age 12 you're kid doesn't know how to socialize... well you might as well just tatoo "weirdo" on his forehead.
Quite frankly in this day in age you should [as an adult] be fairly comfortable with computers. This is why we have the dime a dozen "computer programmer" who after finishing a two month program [without having seen a computer before] is now a professional.
I dunno. In my school we had the apple IIs in kindergarden. We were only allowed like 10 mins a day or something [e.g. one lesson or game]. By age 12 most kids in my class were fairly apt at using MacOS [was System6 at the time]. And I don't think the majority of people from my class are inept anti-socialites...
Tom
What is "linux hardware?"
The way I look at it forcing Linux or MacOS [only] on students is just as bad. I think students at an early age should get experience with all three. Really by time a student is 16 or so they ought to know how to use at least two of the prominent desktop OSes.
Tom
everyone is posting that it won't be for linux. Are you shitting me? What about the C# mono compiler?
Tom
They thought of this already....
// this will be used to encrypt our data ....
const char *deskey = "DEADBEEF";
Tom
Why not just establish a web-o-trust and sign patches?
That way people who hack in won't be able to send in signed patches to the system [e.g. even if they physicially update the tree others can trivially spot the unsigned patches].
That would of course, require people to actually think about security in terms of "oh sure people won't hack it because it hasn't been done...much...before."
Tom
Why not do something like the Transmeta processors though? Even in a desktop I can't imagine that being a bad idea.
E.g. write CMS programs for x86, PPC and heck allow native VLIW too.
If the Efficeon gets the performance per Watt they are claiming that's amazing. At 7 watts that's about 10 times less than the average P4/Athlon desktop processor.
Tom
Yeah less leakage good but faster? Who gives a shit if your processor is 3.3Ghz. Has anyone actually checked the specs of the P4? Things like 15 cycle multiplies, 1.5 cycle ADC/SBB, etc...
:-)
How's about they make the better transistor and say a non-x86 core that's actually efficient.
One thing that perplexes me is why VLIW is not more popular. Think about it. Spend a ton of energy *once* at compile time to schedule/optimize the code then just run the parallel ops. Why should the CPU do the work of a compiler at runtime?
To me that would save a heck of a lot more power than just better tranistors running at 10Ghz. Transmeta seems to agree
Tom
sig police....
0x2B | !0x2B = 0xFFFFFFFF. So there.
is not valid C code [invalid left side of the expression].
So I don't get the joke. Is it "2B or not 2B an invalid statement?"
Tom
hehehe no problem. Always look on the bright side of life, [whistle]....
Tom
why can't they invent smarter, more tolerant, more enlightened people. Now that would truly be an invention worthy of mention.
Killing people is easy [turns around and breaks neck of loud sand nigger neighbour in lab]. But putting up with people [like lound sand nigger behind me] is truly an effort!
Tom
don't forget sewage......
hehehe life of brian...
What? I'm using OE from XP and it already blocks [re: doesn't render] HTML emails.
Personally I like that more than just blocking the images [think big fonts, blinking, exploits...]
Tom
This is showing evidence in favour that activation schemes are just plain bad business. E.g. the potential money you save by hindering piracy minus the lost sales due to pissed off customers => positive or negative?
This message was brought to you by the Manham Canning CanManer Tom St Denis.
What you forgot to ask is usage. Are these 600 linux pc's going 5% used while the winxp are 95% used?
I know in my college of advanced [re: l33t] technology it's all window'ed up because nobody is smart enough to realize that free software isn't just a catchy name [it's actually free].
My schools board will actually buy site licenses for things like Office because they get a "discount" [for being MSFT whores I presume]. But if that were truly the reason they would just use OpenOffice on GNU/Linux + KDE or so... which has a much higher discount.
Tom
it prolly prints on the receipt some b.s. about the voucher.
Smart you are not.
Good day.
Tom
"Anyway what sort of paper holds up from -100 to 200C ?"
:-)
Space paper. Duh.
Four days? Fuck, hey asshole if you want to be a 1st grade troll you can't wait four days between posts. I was almost happy to read /. again.
You let me down.
I seriously doubt that. Most people who pirate windows aren't the linux type. Specially since pirating windows is generally not that hard.
And what you seem to fail to recognize is that Linux isn't always the alternative. For instance, for my job I code windows software. If I ran a pirated copy of windows and was shut off....I'd go out and buy a copy of windows. [Fortunately my laptop came with windows *and* the cds].
Tom
512MB?
128MB is definitely a bit low but not too low as to be unusable. 256MB is a good balanced. Specially for a laptop where you're not going to run any heavy processing/server applications.
Heck my compaq laptop [2100 series] with 256MB of ram is enough to deal with gcc while playing shit via winamp, browsing the web and chatting on gaim.
The trick though is to disable all preinstalled software it comes with. For example, when I first turned this box on it had about a dozen "helper" applications loaded all of which took about 30MB of ram. First thing I did was turn them off [and unused services].
That being said 512MB would be nice for cache purposes but it isn't really required.
Tom
Troll much?
When you pay by CC you are promissing to pay it later. So you are paying for it.
The difference is you're committed to buying it before you try the CD out at home. See if you just allow anyone to try the CD out at home they're not likely to actually pay for it at all.
Tom