Yeah, we enjoy flavours and colours of all sorts. We sit out at night and enjoy a good chat with a neighbour. Occasionally we watch movies about people in the military and honour.
But the funny thing is this. Canada has fewer people in a space larger than all states COMBINED than USCA. Hahahahahha. I think I will stretch my arms and smell some fresh air.
Lets see spend 170$ on an AMD or 160$ on a clone? hmm...
Spend 15K on a Ford or 14900 on a Phored?
If the diff was significant I would consider. Thats why I bought my MII back in the day instead of a PMMX. Cyrix was rather "unknown" at the time but their prices were amazing. I bought a Mobo [with sound/video] and the cpu [a MI 133mhz] for about 150$ whereas the P133 alone was 90$.
When it comes to game console clones you often don't save much so you might as well by brand name. At least then you have some form of assurance the product will work with your device.
The Xbox costs >500$ and a controller costs what 60$ at the most? I could care less about saving the 10$ on a {insert asian country name} knock-off really since I will just use a real MS controller for my >500$ machine.
That's like putting a AMB CPU inside your Socket A board because the AMB is 10$ cheaper. I'd rather spend the extra 10$ and know that the CPU I bought was a legit non-knock off.
There is a big difference between being "private" and admissable. Cell phone conversations are not private and AFAIK non-admissable as evidence without a warrant [I could be wrong with this].
At anyrate, I think the distinction should be made. Sure your IM packets are not private but they should not be useable as evidence without a clear waiver of your rights.
If you feel that "everyone should have free speech, and the right to live an otherwise free life," but you don't feel at all superior to people or nations which are inherently against such freedoms, then praytell, what are the depths of your convictions?
I live in Canada. If someone came up to me and tried to infringe on one of my rights I'd defend myself.
If I moved to China I wouldn't expect my Canadian chartered rights to be in effect.
Thats where I "stand" on the issue.
Is that so hard to understand? Essentially I would fight for my rights inside Canada and not outside of it. Of course it would be a perfect world if China [among others] were more open and free, but alas who am I to tell them how to live? Its their choice, those who don't like it their either immigrate [e.g. to Canada] or fight back [e.g. the Square which admitedly was a good sign of how violent the G' is...]
If a society does not allow a person to exercise their right of conscience, to articulate a belief or a point of view that runs contrary to sanctioned doctrine, or to engage in self-determination, then that society is wrong, and no amount of double-thinking left-leaning uber-tolerance changes that fact.
Lets put the shoe on the other foot. Say I am a citizen of a foreign country and I feel enlightened today. How would you feel if I marched into the US [or more specifically your country] and made light of your values and customs due to my own superiority?
Its so easy to point at China and say "bad". Have you taken a look around your own neighbourhood lately?
In short, get out of the classroom, get a goddamn job, and take a fucking stand for something, even if it is only here on Slashdot.
I have. I feel everyone should have free speech and the right to live a otherwise free life [i.e choice of association, religion, career, politics]. I also feel that I am not superior compared to others. If Person X has values that differ [i.e doesn't think free religion is good] thats upto them not me to choose.
Nope your post seems right on point. I agree that in my humble views China may be nicer if it adopted more "western" like values. At the same time I don't think forcing them on them is the way to go.
I think slashdot should just stop posting stupid inflamatory stories that only serve to further futile discussions.
And there is something wrong with wanting people to have free access to information so that they can make informed decisions about their lives and government?
What you want and what they want are not always compatible.
I mean I would love it too if every country was as peaceful as Canada [woohoo!] but alas thats not some peoples way. Thats also why we have immigration in our country. Sometimes it sucks to see so many Chinese [who can't speak english] floating around my college but they are just trying to get educated so I can't fault them there.
Anyways, my original point was that saying China is a horrible place because of their inet censorship is inappropriate.
Well cutting off P2P file sharing programs will cut not only BW used but the rampant piracy...
Ooops I forgot P2P users share non-copyrighted material only...
Try this dandy experiment. Open your fav P2P client and look at the search window [that other people are using]. Wanna count queries for "windows xp", "windows keygen", "britney topless.mpg", etc...?
First off, who are you to impose your values on others? Maybe the chinese like their society, maybe they don't. But its not upto *you* to force your values on others.
I mean we can make up stats like there is no tommorow showing one side in favour of the other. In the end your conclusion is "This is my society, and that is yours".
The point of the censorship is not to close off the outside world, just stuff the g' determines is inappropriate.
Why don't we sell playboys and such to 6 yr olds now? While the g' in China is not just censoring from 6 yr olds the same ideas apply.
Which is why for example hate speech [in certain forms] is illegal in Canada but not in the U.S.
So are you going to say Canada is some 3rd rate country because we have "censorship" on hate speech? [*]
Everytime china comes up every american spews their views on why China is inferior. Maybe its high time you look at your own damn society for faults. On an aside. I just realized I sit on a bus full of 50 people for about 45 mins each day and I haven't said a word to any of them. For that matter they all remain quiet themselves...
Point being, if you want to look on improving a society take a look around your own. You'll be amazed at how imperfect your world is. The best thing you can do is try to improve it and stop bitching.
Not really. I've jumped between linux and 2k about 3 times already. I can fully get my 2k running [including patches off the net] in about an hour or so.
I dunno,with Win98 and Win2K I haven't had the troubles you are talking about. Thats of course because I don't buy Nviati Video cards or MagnetBox sound cards...
For geez sake thats the dumbest hoax i've ever seen. I mean the drives are not even moving in sync with the bloody audio. [hint: watch the "star wars" one].
No you read me wrong. Building and installing the kernel is relatively easy [I did it on my first try].
Using the right combo of options that will give you your USB ZipDrive [for instance] is impossible. I included all of the USB drivers [even ones for devices I don't own] and in the end, still no ZipDrive...
In reality there should be a scanner for the config process that will scan your hardware and customize the kernel on its own [or with minimal user prompting].
Besides Win2K is not that bad. After booting my copy of Win2K takes up all of 68MB of ram. Linux+Gnome takes roughly the same.
Sure, well did you ever stop to think you had so many troubles with win2k because you're an idiot? I mean I've been running it for quite sometime [except for last week when I switched to RH7.2] and I've never had any problems. I even ran a website off it [apache 1.3.23] for about a year.
Besides, I've crashed RH7.2 about three times in Gnome. Just goto a fullscreen DGA application than try swapping tasks. With the base NVidia drivers you can completely lock up the OS easily that way.
Hey I'm talking from experience, I've tried both RH 7.2 and Win2K.
While RH7.2 installs very nicely and runs smoothly, its a bitch to upgrade. I tried building the 2.4.17 kernel, which I managed todo but it was missing the zip/cdr drivers. For the love of all that is holy I searched in the darn setup for about an hour or so trying to set it all up.
When all was said and done I had about 90% functionality going after the build.
Whereas in win2k it installs nicely, runs nicely [comment all you want Win2k is in fact very stable] and its very painless to upgrade.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Until the linux community gets off their asses and makes Linux easy to use for a larger user base [i.e non kernel-hackers] its still going to be a non-desktop OS.
I've rebuilt my kernel, and lost my zip-drive and CDR support along the way, oops. I'll search the net for non-existant support sites....
Windows has got it made with their windowsupdate.microsoft.com website. I mean I like to program and all, but I just want to update my OS, not become a kernel hacker. While you linux losers are sitting their "make menuconfig;..." I'm just clicking a stupid button and getting BINARY downloads.
If Linux developers would get off their asses and made the OS easy to use for EVERYONE not just kernel hackers, the linux world would be alot cooler.
Please, for the love that is all Holy, do not accept this marriage proposal!!! Its about time that someone put their foot down and stop these silly, public marriage proposals. Make him act like a man, get down on one knee, profess his love for you and present you with a ring. The only reason a man asks a woman to marry him in front of a crowd is because he is a sniveling, little coward that is afraid of rejection. Make him face his fears!!!
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Funny ting-tat ain't it, eh?
Yeah, we enjoy flavours and colours of all sorts. We sit out at night and enjoy a good chat with a neighbour. Occasionally we watch movies about people in the military and honour.
But the funny thing is this. Canada has fewer people in a space larger than all states COMBINED than USCA. Hahahahahha. I think I will stretch my arms and smell some fresh air.
Tom
Lets see spend 170$ on an AMD or 160$ on a clone? hmm...
Spend 15K on a Ford or 14900 on a Phored?
If the diff was significant I would consider. Thats why I bought my MII back in the day instead of a PMMX. Cyrix was rather "unknown" at the time but their prices were amazing. I bought a Mobo [with sound/video] and the cpu [a MI 133mhz] for about 150$ whereas the P133 alone was 90$.
When it comes to game console clones you often don't save much so you might as well by brand name. At least then you have some form of assurance the product will work with your device.
Tom
The Xbox costs >500$ and a controller costs what 60$ at the most? I could care less about saving the 10$ on a {insert asian country name} knock-off really since I will just use a real MS controller for my >500$ machine.
That's like putting a AMB CPU inside your Socket A board because the AMB is 10$ cheaper. I'd rather spend the extra 10$ and know that the CPU I bought was a legit non-knock off.
Tom
There is a big difference between being "private" and admissable. Cell phone conversations are not private and AFAIK non-admissable as evidence without a warrant [I could be wrong with this].
At anyrate, I think the distinction should be made. Sure your IM packets are not private but they should not be useable as evidence without a clear waiver of your rights.
Tom
Please indulge me a bit. Why on such a connected internet are open relays used at all?
If you feel that "everyone should have free speech, and the right to live an otherwise free life," but you don't feel at all superior to people or nations which are inherently against such freedoms, then praytell, what are the depths of your convictions?
I live in Canada. If someone came up to me and tried to infringe on one of my rights I'd defend myself.
If I moved to China I wouldn't expect my Canadian chartered rights to be in effect.
Thats where I "stand" on the issue.
Is that so hard to understand? Essentially I would fight for my rights inside Canada and not outside of it. Of course it would be a perfect world if China [among others] were more open and free, but alas who am I to tell them how to live? Its their choice, those who don't like it their either immigrate [e.g. to Canada] or fight back [e.g. the Square which admitedly was a good sign of how violent the G' is...]
Tom
If a society does not allow a person to exercise their right of conscience, to articulate a belief or a point of view that runs contrary to sanctioned doctrine, or to engage in self-determination, then that society is wrong, and no amount of double-thinking left-leaning uber-tolerance changes that fact.
Lets put the shoe on the other foot. Say I am a citizen of a foreign country and I feel enlightened today. How would you feel if I marched into the US [or more specifically your country] and made light of your values and customs due to my own superiority?
Its so easy to point at China and say "bad". Have you taken a look around your own neighbourhood lately?
In short, get out of the classroom, get a goddamn job, and take a fucking stand for something, even if it is only here on Slashdot.
I have. I feel everyone should have free speech and the right to live a otherwise free life [i.e choice of association, religion, career, politics]. I also feel that I am not superior compared to others. If Person X has values that differ [i.e doesn't think free religion is good] thats upto them not me to choose.
Tom
Nope your post seems right on point. I agree that in my humble views China may be nicer if it adopted more "western" like values. At the same time I don't think forcing them on them is the way to go.
I think slashdot should just stop posting stupid inflamatory stories that only serve to further futile discussions.
Tom
And there is something wrong with wanting people to have free access to information so that they can make informed decisions about their lives and government?
What you want and what they want are not always compatible.
I mean I would love it too if every country was as peaceful as Canada [woohoo!] but alas thats not some peoples way. Thats also why we have immigration in our country. Sometimes it sucks to see so many Chinese [who can't speak english] floating around my college but they are just trying to get educated so I can't fault them there.
Anyways, my original point was that saying China is a horrible place because of their inet censorship is inappropriate.
Tom
Well cutting off P2P file sharing programs will cut not only BW used but the rampant piracy...
Ooops I forgot P2P users share non-copyrighted material only...
Try this dandy experiment. Open your fav P2P client and look at the search window [that other people are using]. Wanna count queries for "windows xp", "windows keygen", "britney topless.mpg", etc...?
Tom
First off, who are you to impose your values on others? Maybe the chinese like their society, maybe they don't. But its not upto *you* to force your values on others.
I mean we can make up stats like there is no tommorow showing one side in favour of the other. In the end your conclusion is "This is my society, and that is yours".
The point of the censorship is not to close off the outside world, just stuff the g' determines is inappropriate.
Why don't we sell playboys and such to 6 yr olds now? While the g' in China is not just censoring from 6 yr olds the same ideas apply.
Which is why for example hate speech [in certain forms] is illegal in Canada but not in the U.S.
So are you going to say Canada is some 3rd rate country because we have "censorship" on hate speech? [*]
Everytime china comes up every american spews their views on why China is inferior. Maybe its high time you look at your own damn society for faults. On an aside. I just realized I sit on a bus full of 50 people for about 45 mins each day and I haven't said a word to any of them. For that matter they all remain quiet themselves...
Point being, if you want to look on improving a society take a look around your own. You'll be amazed at how imperfect your world is. The best thing you can do is try to improve it and stop bitching.
Tom
Not really. I've jumped between linux and 2k about 3 times already. I can fully get my 2k running [including patches off the net] in about an hour or so.
Tom
I dunno,with Win98 and Win2K I haven't had the troubles you are talking about. Thats of course because I don't buy Nviati Video cards or MagnetBox sound cards...
Tom
For geez sake thats the dumbest hoax i've ever seen. I mean the drives are not even moving in sync with the bloody audio. [hint: watch the "star wars" one].
Tom
Maybe you did all those reboots because YOU'RE STUPID
:-)
Here are all the reboots I did [or steps]
1. Install Win2k
2. Setup TCP/IP, join local area network, Install Video, Sound and download first set of updates.
3. Setup WinTV card. Download second set of updates plus MS IE 6.0
4. Download yet more updates, DirectX 8.1, and install my development suites [cygwin and mingw32]
5. Play some wolf...
Tom
I totally agree with you but why didn't you just say this initially?
Good point, well at first I didn't think about it. Then when I was preparing the followups it struck me as a good idea.
Oops, I missed that. Sorry about being rude. Anyways, point being, re-installing w2k to play my "backup"ed copy of Wolf is all worth it :-)
[after installing Cygwin and my other development tools....]
Tom
No you read me wrong. Building and installing the kernel is relatively easy [I did it on my first try].
Using the right combo of options that will give you your USB ZipDrive [for instance] is impossible. I included all of the USB drivers [even ones for devices I don't own] and in the end, still no ZipDrive...
In reality there should be a scanner for the config process that will scan your hardware and customize the kernel on its own [or with minimal user prompting].
Besides Win2K is not that bad. After booting my copy of Win2K takes up all of 68MB of ram. Linux+Gnome takes roughly the same.
Tom
Sure, well did you ever stop to think you had so many troubles with win2k because you're an idiot? I mean I've been running it for quite sometime [except for last week when I switched to RH7.2] and I've never had any problems. I even ran a website off it [apache 1.3.23] for about a year.
Besides, I've crashed RH7.2 about three times in Gnome. Just goto a fullscreen DGA application than try swapping tasks. With the base NVidia drivers you can completely lock up the OS easily that way.
Tom
Hey I'm talking from experience, I've tried both RH 7.2 and Win2K.
While RH7.2 installs very nicely and runs smoothly, its a bitch to upgrade. I tried building the 2.4.17 kernel, which I managed todo but it was missing the zip/cdr drivers. For the love of all that is holy I searched in the darn setup for about an hour or so trying to set it all up.
When all was said and done I had about 90% functionality going after the build.
Whereas in win2k it installs nicely, runs nicely [comment all you want Win2k is in fact very stable] and its very painless to upgrade.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Until the linux community gets off their asses and makes Linux easy to use for a larger user base [i.e non kernel-hackers] its still going to be a non-desktop OS.
Hmm? I was talking about Linux being hard to update.
Next time *read* the post before replying.
Tom
Yeah and linux is the way?
..." I'm just clicking a stupid button and getting BINARY downloads.
I've rebuilt my kernel, and lost my zip-drive and CDR support along the way, oops. I'll search the net for non-existant support sites....
Windows has got it made with their windowsupdate.microsoft.com website. I mean I like to program and all, but I just want to update my OS, not become a kernel hacker. While you linux losers are sitting their "make menuconfig;
If Linux developers would get off their asses and made the OS easy to use for EVERYONE not just kernel hackers, the linux world would be alot cooler.
Tom
Ah, the typical stupid windows joke.
Did you think of that one all by yourself or did a crack-team of Linux gurus help ya?
Long live an OS that works, Long live windows!
Tom
Please, for the love that is all Holy, do not accept this marriage proposal!!! Its about time that someone put their foot down and stop these silly, public marriage proposals. Make him act like a man, get down on one knee, profess his love for you and present you with a ring. The only reason a man asks a woman to marry him in front of a crowd is because he is a sniveling, little coward that is afraid of rejection. Make him face his fears!!!
And women should be treated equally...
Tom
I wish the best for the two of you. Very nice to read a positive post. I actually smiled before noon today :-)
Certainly a unique way to propose....