Seriously, the reason Debian doesn't use RPM is because R=="Red Hat" IMHO.
Nice troll. Debian packages have been around far longer than rpm's. When RedHat got started, they made their own package manager, even though there was one already available. ___
Is this supposed to be a troll? Debian is the most stable Linux distribution precisely because they spend a lot of time on testing. By your logic any untested software is the most stable. ___
Following in the same thread as the other two replies above me, I fail to see why using windows ssh clients is INHERENTLY more insecure than using a linux one. Yes, problems may arise if trojan binaries are run.. that danger is also possible if you use Linux as well thought.
He didn't mean windows ssh clients, but the OS itself. (Wrong word choice, but that's the idea he was trying to convey, and I agree with that btw). Windows is inherently insecure, and the ssh client can only be as secure as the OS it runs on. OTOH, Linux has a quite good security model. Things like Melissa/ILOVEYOU are simply impossible on Linux. ___
The host's private key *may* change if you upgrade the OS, wiping out the existing installation first, and don't bother to back up the private key. This is a sign of laziness and/or cluelessness on the part of the sysadmin. In general, the host's private key never changes, so this article is actually scarier than the reality. ___
Actually, the prices for the lower-end PCI machines are not that far from PC prices, especially considering that every developer that I've ever met seems to need a dual PIII with half a Gig of PC133. Not to mention a 20-inch flatscreen.
Uhhm, sure. A *single* CPU Ultra 10 (440MHz) with 512 MB RAM and 20Gb IDE HD costs $4225 (see here), and that's not including the monitor. For that much money you can get dual P3 (or better yet, Athlon) with GeForce 2 and 21" monitor included. ___
Developing on Solaris pretty much requires you to buy a SPARC box from Sun, which are quite pricey. It would be too expensive for you to buy say a Ultra 5 for every developer. However, a good compromise is to buy *one* Sun box, and run Sun Workshop over remote X session. I did that last year when I was doing C++ development on Solaris. That was out of necessity though -- my Sun box was so damn slow (SPARC 20), while all the other developers had Ultra 10's. Anyway, this is a good way to get all the mature development tools that are available for Solaris (like Sun Workshop, purify, etc.) while at the same time avoiding high cost of Sun boxes. Oh, and you can still use your favorite OS on your workstation:-)
P.S. If anybody tries to reply that running GUI apps remotely over X is slow, this is BS. I have first-hand experience that points to the contrary. My university has 6 labs of diskless X terminals (20-30 terminals each), and that's just in the MC building. There's more of them elsewhere. Long live X:-) ___
The rumours of Microsoft's death come up every few month, and yes they are getting old and boring. That said, I do think MS's dominance is starting to decline. But it is a very slow process, not 6 month as the certain "visionary" has predicted. ___
Wow! where did you get these prices from?
But a more important question is: why the hell did they price TBird so low?? It's sooo much better than P3 but it costs less than Celeron??? ___
So let me get this straight -- they hired all their "permatemps" in 97, after they were sued for denying the employees benefits for 11 years? Hmm, interesting "mistake".
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huh? How often do you boot? Oh, wait you're running windows... my bad! ___
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go grab a dictionary and look up "irony". Perhaps that'll help... ___
Just wondering: sin't that how plan 9 works? As I understand it, it's basically a Unix with distributed processes, storage, authentication, etc. built in. ___
There was a story on/. about this. A large manufacturing company deployed some software that didn't work and caused them millions of dollars in damages. They took the software company to court, but lost -- the court upheld the EULA. Now wait till UCITA gets passed. Accountability will not even be a question, since it is explicitly disclaimed in EULA. ___
I don't know if it was in fact due to CPUs, but Sun had had patches available for 6 month prior to the incident. The incompetent sysadmin(s) never bothered to install them. ___
This sounds like a colossal maintenance burden. I mean, I guess it's easier to maintain 30,000 installations of Linux on one machine than 30,000 machines, but it has to be harder than maintaining 30,000 accounts on [less than 30,000] installations of Linux. Does each user get his own root password? What happens when the next version of SuSE comes out?
You are missing the point. Every user gets their own virtual computer to play with. They have root on their own computer. But they do not have root on anyone else's virtual machine (nothing to do with java:-) In fact, they cannot access other people's machines at all. Basically, it's almost as if every user had their own physical box hosted at Telia.
Telia does not have to maintain any of these virtual machines. All they need to do is create one when a user signs up. After that, the user has complete control over their own box.
This is really cool. But the real question is whether it's cost effective. 1500 individual boxes would be definitely several orders of magnitude faster than a single mainframe. ___
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Don't you think it's astounding that Orwell was just a few years off?
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Nice troll. Debian packages have been around far longer than rpm's. When RedHat got started, they made their own package manager, even though there was one already available.
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huh? 256MB RAM costs $180, so 1GB is $720. If you are talking about a single 1GB module, that's not $7k either. Crucial sells it for $2429.
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Cirrectopn: What about MS decision to bastardize Kerberos?
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Ever heard of dll hell?
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Is this supposed to be a troll? Debian is the most stable Linux distribution precisely because they spend a lot of time on testing. By your logic any untested software is the most stable.
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Yeah, I'm gonna go get my BFG!
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He didn't mean windows ssh clients, but the OS itself. (Wrong word choice, but that's the idea he was trying to convey, and I agree with that btw). Windows is inherently insecure, and the ssh client can only be as secure as the OS it runs on. OTOH, Linux has a quite good security model. Things like Melissa/ILOVEYOU are simply impossible on Linux.
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The host's private key *may* change if you upgrade the OS, wiping out the existing installation first, and don't bother to back up the private key. This is a sign of laziness and/or cluelessness on the part of the sysadmin. In general, the host's private key never changes, so this article is actually scarier than the reality.
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Please elaborate on this one. I have a really hard time believing a single Ultra 60 is worth the price of 5 high-end Linux boxes.
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Uhhm, sure. A *single* CPU Ultra 10 (440MHz) with 512 MB RAM and 20Gb IDE HD costs $4225 (see here), and that's not including the monitor. For that much money you can get dual P3 (or better yet, Athlon) with GeForce 2 and 21" monitor included.
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P.S. If anybody tries to reply that running GUI apps remotely over X is slow, this is BS. I have first-hand experience that points to the contrary. My university has 6 labs of diskless X terminals (20-30 terminals each), and that's just in the MC building. There's more of them elsewhere. Long live X :-)
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ughhm... don't you think it would be a little hard for gays to pass on their genes down their family tree?
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The rumours of Microsoft's death come up every few month, and yes they are getting old and boring. That said, I do think MS's dominance is starting to decline. But it is a very slow process, not 6 month as the certain "visionary" has predicted.
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Oh, please! Stop beating this dead horse. Ever read EULAs? They have already been upheld by court. See here
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733 Celeron: $114
750 MHz Tbird: $98
Wow! where did you get these prices from?
But a more important question is: why the hell did they price TBird so low?? It's sooo much better than P3 but it costs less than Celeron???
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uhhm, no. Duron costs less than Celeron at the same clock.
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So let me get this straight -- they hired all their "permatemps" in 97, after they were sued for denying the employees benefits for 11 years? Hmm, interesting "mistake".
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huh? How often do you boot? Oh, wait you're running windows... my bad!
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go grab a dictionary and look up "irony". Perhaps that'll help...
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Just wondering: sin't that how plan 9 works? As I understand it, it's basically a Unix with distributed processes, storage, authentication, etc. built in.
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There was a story on /. about this. A large manufacturing company deployed some software that didn't work and caused them millions of dollars in damages. They took the software company to court, but lost -- the court upheld the EULA. Now wait till UCITA gets passed. Accountability will not even be a question, since it is explicitly disclaimed in EULA.
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I don't know if it was in fact due to CPUs, but Sun had had patches available for 6 month prior to the incident. The incompetent sysadmin(s) never bothered to install them.
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You are missing the point. Every user gets their own virtual computer to play with. They have root on their own computer. But they do not have root on anyone else's virtual machine (nothing to do with java :-) In fact, they cannot access other people's machines at all. Basically, it's almost as if every user had their own physical box hosted at Telia.
Telia does not have to maintain any of these virtual machines. All they need to do is create one when a user signs up. After that, the user has complete control over their own box.
This is really cool. But the real question is whether it's cost effective. 1500 individual boxes would be definitely several orders of magnitude faster than a single mainframe.
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