Oops, sorry, my bad. I knew that SNL was DoE, but thought LANL was DoD. Regardless, though, they still have very tight information auditing, especially since most of the systems there would most likely be Q-level or higher, right? I mean, just to get onto the facility you need an L clearance (which is, of course, par for the course). --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Oh, and another thing an AC wouldn't notice (most users wouldn't, actually) is that the checkbox for not getting an automatic +1 is missing. I'm also noticing that lots of posts have been moderated up without any attributes on them, such as (Score:3) rather than (Score:3, Interesting), and clicking on the CID link doesn't itemize the moderations either.
I'm sure Rob's working on the problem though. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
It's fucked in more ways than that, including one that an AC isn't likely to notice. It keeps on forgetting my thread viewing preferences (threshold, sort, mode). Also, replies to comments are bringing up a form with a reply to a nonexistent comment (i.e. author, subject, score, date, CID, etc. are all missing). Quite alarming. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
In some backwater, unenlightened regions, any sexual position other than heterosexual missionary (man on top, woman on bottom facing up) is illegal. This isn't something that people are normally arrested for, but it still happens from time to time as an excuse to imprison a known homosexual or BDSM type or whatever who speaks ill of their government. It also leads to horrific possibilities for the religiously-inclined leaders to deal with transsexuals, for example (define 'man' or 'woman,' and someone is always going to disagree with you since there are so many notions which are completely contradictory except in the most trivial cases).
Want to know what some of these backwater regions are? Good portions of United States and Britain, for starters. There's a good list on Age Of Consent which lists when sexual relationships of varying natures become legal, if ever, though it doesn't list which positions are legal IIRC, though I know for a fact that in Virginia, everything but male-dominated missionary is illegal (you can get a heterosexual couple jailed with the right contacts by claiming that they enacted in fellatio or cunningulus, for example). --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
At LANL, much better things than playing Quake or surfing the web. Infact, seeing as how it's a DoD secure site, I seriously doubt they even *have* access to the web for non-research purposes; I'd be surprised if they didn't audit and account for every single packet which passed through their routers. They do all sorts of neat things there, though, such as simulations of any physical phenomena you can think of, to begin with. (Being from New Mexico, I was able to participate in the Supercomputing Challenge that they run every year back when I was in high school. Very useful experience.)
Also, I fail to see how incredible CPU power would be used to enhance pr0n-downloading speeds. That's generally a bandwidth issue, not a CPU issue. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Ah, but for every Wham-O Frisbee there's a Kleenex tissue and a Xerox copy machine. True, the trademarks have been diluted through common use, but Kleenex and Xerox have probably the strongest brand-name association for tissues and photocopiers.
Wham-O's mistake was probably in stealing the name of it from the Frisby pie company to begin with; the origin of the Frisbee was that people would eat a Frisby pie and then throw the tin around rather than returning it for a deposit. So they were using an already-common term but slightly misspelled. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Hey, man, I was just refuting the setup proposed by someone else.:) You'd still want one system per CD in that case, though, and it'd still take over an hour per CD (takes 45 minutes to encode the average CD in pristine conditions on a P2-450, and then 20-30 minutes to do the burn). --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
There you'd be killed simply by the lack of bandwidth in the CD jukebox. Even if you had one CPU dedicated to MP3ing each track, it still will take lots of time to rip the CDs. For example, assuming a 24x jukebox used to rip (at full speed) 200 45-minute CDs, that'll still take around 600 minutes, assuming an average thoroughput of 15x and no scratches or anything to worry about (remember, 24x CD-ROM drives only read that quickly at the outer edge of the disc). Of course, a beowulf would still be useful to make the encoding quicker (it'd still take about 9000 minutes to encode 9000 minutes of music on a P2-450), but you're still talking about a lot of attendance as well; 200 CDs become about 20 MP3 CD-Rs, and also, those still take what, 30 minutes to burn? Hey, still 600 minutes - looks like you're talking about at least 10 hours no matter what. Damn. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Heh, funny you should mention that... at NMSU, they hacked up a semi-realtime/interactive version of POVray for the Beowulf. Thing is, although you have a whole bunch of CPU bandwidth, your communication latency is rather high, and so it'd be horrible for anything like Quake. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
But we already HAVE that kind of fragmentation in 8086 Linux and RTLinux and likely a dozen other special-interest kernel forks, and so far I haven't seen any collapse of the Linux world because of that... --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Before everyone starts to scream bloody murder about how this will fragment the Linux community, keep in mind that it wouldn't be in TurboLinux's best interests to fork it in incompatible ways. They only are keeping the possibility open if Linus doesn't accept the changes, and even then it'd be stupid of them not to keep adding their changes to the main kernel source. Everyone can still win in this situation.
Unfortunately, one of the parties that can win is the Microsoft PR department, who has been shouting FUD about the fragmentation of Linux for quite some time. So, hopefully a kernel fork won't be necessary, since even if the fork doesn't cause the problems of fragmentation, MS will still love the opportunity to claim that it's fragmentation whether it's a bad thing or not.
Personally, I'm all for kernel forking. It's not like 8086 Linux or RTLinux are currently part of the main kernel distribution, nor should they be. They fill in special needs, rather than being something good for everyone. A clustering-optimized kernel would be similar, IMO. Clustered systems tend to be homogenous and not have any exotic hardware to support (with the exception of gigabit network cards, which are generally supported just fine by the main kernel as it is). It's a special-need kernel, not something for general consumption. As much as how every article on/. has a comment saying "Man, I'd like a Beowulf of these babies," most of the people saying that never will have a Beowulf or a need for a clustered system. (I mean, come ON, what would you, personally, use all that computing power for?) --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Most people apparently say carrot (subconscious thing from the assonance between 'six' and 'sex'). I tried it on my aunt and she said 'asparagus' (which is a bit more appropriate than a carrot, IMO). When this was tried on me, I said 'onion.' I don't know what my subconscious was doing, but I consciously recognized the assonance and decided not to fall into it.;) --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Heh, right after I posted that, AOC started to load just fine. Typical.:P Never mind about that theory; Nevada's AOC is 16. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Well, although I'm not saying that sex is wrong at age 17, Nevada law may make consent age 18. Unfortunately, the Age Of Consent site is going horribly slowly for me and so I can't give an actual number. Blah.
Of course, I personally believe that you shouldn't go by what's legal or illegal, but what's right or wrong. Unfortunately, the law doesn't care about ethics. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Would you happen to be able to give more information though? I mean, does it crash because it can't register itself as a plugin, or because it's trying to do some low-level stuff that Wine can't handle, or what? (I'm too lazy to download it for myself.:) --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
No, that's the kind of research you would be doing, Spiny.:) I think it's called 'zoom,' of all the uncreative things out there. I dunno, and I'm too tired to look it up on the UNM CS website (too tired to even see if that's the right URL for the department). This is an interface project that's been going on for, like, 10 years now (I know they had a lot of work put in when I was in middle school). When I saw it running on an SGI Indigo back then, it was the coolest thing ever, aside from 'ant: the movie' running in the background.:) --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Now, I like good karma just as much as anyone else, but come on, Score 5: Insightful? Jeeze, could you please use your moderator points on something more useful? --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Did CmdrTaco just run out of cool titles for quickie stories? He doesn't seem to make quickie collections anymore. I miss quickie-dumps. You get more silly content per day that way.:) --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Although I agree with you in general, I have issue with your statement that Quicktime is widely available on many platforms. QT4 is only available, AFAIK, on Windows and MacOS. Yes, a variety of the older QT Codecs are available on quite a few systems (including Linux), but so far I've seen no intention from Apple to support anything but MacOS and Windows on this. Hopefully they'll change their mind, but in the meantime, our only choices are Wine (dunno if QT4 can be supported by this, though) and, as you pointed out, VMWare. However, the problem with VMWare is that you still need a copy of Windows. Part of what many Linux geeks (such as myself) are trying to do, for better or worse, is not have to have a copy of any OS that we don't want just for a few things we don't need. It's a personal choice. I don't try to inflict it on others, though of course others don't have exactly the same views as me...
But yeah, I agree, just because something isn't in Linux doesn't mean it sucks. However, to claim that QT4 is available on the vast majority of systems... well, on installed personal computers, maybe, but two OSes each on one platform certainly does NOT constitute the majority of the several hundred OSes and platforms out there. What if you don't even have an x86 box? What if you have a BeBox or an Alpha, or something StrongARM based, or an RS/6000, or a SPARC? Not everyone has a Mac or a Windows-capable box, after all. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Actually, the UNM CS department does a lot of stuff on natural graphics-based object-oriented interfaces. One of their more well-known projects (I can't remember the name of it, though) involves the system being a large sheet of 'paper' which you can zoom in and out of, and applications are 'windows' which can float over data to format them and the like, and there can also be portals/links between parts of the world. Rather interesting; everything's location-oriented and tactile, rather than conceptual in some big tree of things like how current systems usually are. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
well, you could install Back Orifice, the ultimate remote administratin tool, but that opens the user up to all sorts of other problems.:) --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
There's a major problem with this thinking. I don't know about StarOffice, but Netscape for Linux crashes if you even look at it funny. So, the 3x5 card stops working if he alt-tabs and Netscape never comes up... --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Well, um, generally users don't have access to the non-/home parts of the system, so imposing user quotas on whatever mount contains/home shouldn't be a problem, right? Unless you want them to still have/var/spool/mail as unlimited stomping grounds. I can't help but remember this one thing I did in college to get around the home directory quota - I made a hidden directory in/var/spool/mail and put stuff in that.:) (There was no mail quota.) Another thing I did was I'd take advantage of the fact that there was only a quota per user on the fileservers they were on (we had a big-ass 'farm' of Linux boxes which served as fileservers), and so I'd work up a deal with friends on other fileservers where we'd have a.noquota directory where we could keep large stuff in each others' accounts. It was fun, getting around quota restrictions like that...:) --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
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Oops, sorry, my bad. I knew that SNL was DoE, but thought LANL was DoD. Regardless, though, they still have very tight information auditing, especially since most of the systems there would most likely be Q-level or higher, right? I mean, just to get onto the facility you need an L clearance (which is, of course, par for the course).
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I'm sure Rob's working on the problem though.
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It's fucked in more ways than that, including one that an AC isn't likely to notice. It keeps on forgetting my thread viewing preferences (threshold, sort, mode). Also, replies to comments are bringing up a form with a reply to a nonexistent comment (i.e. author, subject, score, date, CID, etc. are all missing). Quite alarming.
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Want to know what some of these backwater regions are? Good portions of United States and Britain, for starters. There's a good list on Age Of Consent which lists when sexual relationships of varying natures become legal, if ever, though it doesn't list which positions are legal IIRC, though I know for a fact that in Virginia, everything but male-dominated missionary is illegal (you can get a heterosexual couple jailed with the right contacts by claiming that they enacted in fellatio or cunningulus, for example).
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Also, I fail to see how incredible CPU power would be used to enhance pr0n-downloading speeds. That's generally a bandwidth issue, not a CPU issue.
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Wham-O's mistake was probably in stealing the name of it from the Frisby pie company to begin with; the origin of the Frisbee was that people would eat a Frisby pie and then throw the tin around rather than returning it for a deposit. So they were using an already-common term but slightly misspelled.
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Hey, man, I was just refuting the setup proposed by someone else. :) You'd still want one system per CD in that case, though, and it'd still take over an hour per CD (takes 45 minutes to encode the average CD in pristine conditions on a P2-450, and then 20-30 minutes to do the burn).
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Well, the same can be said about the whole planet. :)
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There you'd be killed simply by the lack of bandwidth in the CD jukebox. Even if you had one CPU dedicated to MP3ing each track, it still will take lots of time to rip the CDs. For example, assuming a 24x jukebox used to rip (at full speed) 200 45-minute CDs, that'll still take around 600 minutes, assuming an average thoroughput of 15x and no scratches or anything to worry about (remember, 24x CD-ROM drives only read that quickly at the outer edge of the disc). Of course, a beowulf would still be useful to make the encoding quicker (it'd still take about 9000 minutes to encode 9000 minutes of music on a P2-450), but you're still talking about a lot of attendance as well; 200 CDs become about 20 MP3 CD-Rs, and also, those still take what, 30 minutes to burn? Hey, still 600 minutes - looks like you're talking about at least 10 hours no matter what. Damn.
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Heh, funny you should mention that... at NMSU, they hacked up a semi-realtime/interactive version of POVray for the Beowulf. Thing is, although you have a whole bunch of CPU bandwidth, your communication latency is rather high, and so it'd be horrible for anything like Quake.
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But we already HAVE that kind of fragmentation in 8086 Linux and RTLinux and likely a dozen other special-interest kernel forks, and so far I haven't seen any collapse of the Linux world because of that...
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Unfortunately, one of the parties that can win is the Microsoft PR department, who has been shouting FUD about the fragmentation of Linux for quite some time. So, hopefully a kernel fork won't be necessary, since even if the fork doesn't cause the problems of fragmentation, MS will still love the opportunity to claim that it's fragmentation whether it's a bad thing or not.
Personally, I'm all for kernel forking. It's not like 8086 Linux or RTLinux are currently part of the main kernel distribution, nor should they be. They fill in special needs, rather than being something good for everyone. A clustering-optimized kernel would be similar, IMO. Clustered systems tend to be homogenous and not have any exotic hardware to support (with the exception of gigabit network cards, which are generally supported just fine by the main kernel as it is). It's a special-need kernel, not something for general consumption. As much as how every article on /. has a comment saying "Man, I'd like a Beowulf of these babies," most of the people saying that never will have a Beowulf or a need for a clustered system. (I mean, come ON, what would you, personally, use all that computing power for?)
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Not to mention the famed hedgemaze in Zork III, where you actually get *attacked* by these things...
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"Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Now name a vegetable."
Most people apparently say carrot (subconscious thing from the assonance between 'six' and 'sex'). I tried it on my aunt and she said 'asparagus' (which is a bit more appropriate than a carrot, IMO). When this was tried on me, I said 'onion.' I don't know what my subconscious was doing, but I consciously recognized the assonance and decided not to fall into it. ;)
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Heh, right after I posted that, AOC started to load just fine. Typical. :P Never mind about that theory; Nevada's AOC is 16.
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Of course, I personally believe that you shouldn't go by what's legal or illegal, but what's right or wrong. Unfortunately, the law doesn't care about ethics.
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Would you happen to be able to give more information though? I mean, does it crash because it can't register itself as a plugin, or because it's trying to do some low-level stuff that Wine can't handle, or what? (I'm too lazy to download it for myself. :)
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No, that's the kind of research you would be doing, Spiny. :) I think it's called 'zoom,' of all the uncreative things out there. I dunno, and I'm too tired to look it up on the UNM CS website (too tired to even see if that's the right URL for the department). This is an interface project that's been going on for, like, 10 years now (I know they had a lot of work put in when I was in middle school). When I saw it running on an SGI Indigo back then, it was the coolest thing ever, aside from 'ant: the movie' running in the background. :)
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Now, I like good karma just as much as anyone else, but come on, Score 5: Insightful? Jeeze, could you please use your moderator points on something more useful?
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Did CmdrTaco just run out of cool titles for quickie stories? He doesn't seem to make quickie collections anymore. I miss quickie-dumps. You get more silly content per day that way. :)
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But yeah, I agree, just because something isn't in Linux doesn't mean it sucks. However, to claim that QT4 is available on the vast majority of systems... well, on installed personal computers, maybe, but two OSes each on one platform certainly does NOT constitute the majority of the several hundred OSes and platforms out there. What if you don't even have an x86 box? What if you have a BeBox or an Alpha, or something StrongARM based, or an RS/6000, or a SPARC? Not everyone has a Mac or a Windows-capable box, after all.
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Actually, the UNM CS department does a lot of stuff on natural graphics-based object-oriented interfaces. One of their more well-known projects (I can't remember the name of it, though) involves the system being a large sheet of 'paper' which you can zoom in and out of, and applications are 'windows' which can float over data to format them and the like, and there can also be portals/links between parts of the world. Rather interesting; everything's location-oriented and tactile, rather than conceptual in some big tree of things like how current systems usually are.
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well, you could install Back Orifice, the ultimate remote administratin tool, but that opens the user up to all sorts of other problems. :)
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There's a major problem with this thinking. I don't know about StarOffice, but Netscape for Linux crashes if you even look at it funny. So, the 3x5 card stops working if he alt-tabs and Netscape never comes up...
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Well, um, generally users don't have access to the non-/home parts of the system, so imposing user quotas on whatever mount contains /home shouldn't be a problem, right? Unless you want them to still have /var/spool/mail as unlimited stomping grounds. I can't help but remember this one thing I did in college to get around the home directory quota - I made a hidden directory in /var/spool/mail and put stuff in that. :) (There was no mail quota.) Another thing I did was I'd take advantage of the fact that there was only a quota per user on the fileservers they were on (we had a big-ass 'farm' of Linux boxes which served as fileservers), and so I'd work up a deal with friends on other fileservers where we'd have a .noquota directory where we could keep large stuff in each others' accounts. It was fun, getting around quota restrictions like that... :)
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