As far as these matrerials being "on loan" it is my understanding that surveys produced with public money by a government agency are not copyrightable (or not supposed to be) and that the information contained therein is public domain.
By asking libraries to destroy these materals the agency asking for destruction is asserting there athority over the librarian and library (that they might not actually have) and attempting to withdraw some information from the public domain. That is they are taking something away from us that they had forced us to pay for already.
As far as "too much information" allowing terrorists to know where the U.S.S Cole is docked, that's jsut laughable. It's a fucking big ship! how the fuck are you going to hide it? put everyone under house arrest and higher snbipers to take out anyone near a port who is not authorized to work there that day?
No one told me about any doughnut theory therefore I'm not very troubled...
What are the precepts of this theory anyway? That because we see some matter spinning along a plane in an accretion disk there must be other matter doing about the same thing outside it?
Or is this one not even an actual theory but a failure of matter to behave the same as a simulation.
Anyway M87 is an elliptical galaxy, those typically have stars orbiting around there center every witch way not along a flat plane like out spiral galaxy. Why to we expect to see a plane of accretion around the center? because the Black hole MUST have had some angular momentum and transfers it to surrounding matter via tidal and gravitational force? because water always swirls down the drain? Why can't there be an elliptical acceleration area around a black hole that is 3D and not flat?
Why did my 60GB 60GXP just fail with symptoms so similar to the 75GXP failures (eg ever expanding bad media and the horribl Zit-Clit-Click-click trying to access any part of that defective media)
WTF haven't they shipped me a replacement yet either.
45 miles of cat 5? good one, how much will the repeater you have to put in every 300ft cost? will the connection still be valad even for 10bt after 4 hops.
Anyway the guy said he only had $80,000 to work with this wouldn't cover the layers fee to begin to do the leg work to dig for 45 miles...
I have a 60GB 60GXP that is going south. I has a spot of defective media about 1GB large. It's a shame as the tech in this drive is very advanced.
I've been trying to get it replaced and haver all data off it. My problem is I can't find where at IBM or on there site you get warrenty repair for a drive. I can find warrenty repairs for aptivas and other such junk but not for hard drives.
Anyone who has been through this point me in the right place to get started?
Temp public works jobs do spread the cash around and help the economy in a bad situation. Perminant public works jobs mearly expand in scope (like a black hole) and drain the economy because they are not selfsustaining fiscally but rely on you and I being able to fork over the tax dollars to pay for them.
You may be a bioligist grad student but sadly you have not proved me wrong. While some modern plants may use more oxyegn then they produce the vast majority don't, and we do know that oxygen production was in fact unbalanced for a long time in earth's history.
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/geo_timeline. ht ml
Look from 3500 Million years ago to 1600 million years ago almost 1.9 billion of the earths 4.5 billion year history. During that time the chemistry of life was clearly not a balanced chemistry. Another poster pointed out geological chemistry had to absorb some of the excess.
This is slashdot, made up of engineering types. Don't we all know this is the "special" degree they have to make management feel educated and proof positive 95% of the time that the holder is probably scientifically and mathematically illiterate and logically impaired.
Trees would have burned up certanly but there were none at the time, there wasn't too much out of the sea apperently and even that began to suffer from the over abundance of O2.
Neither am I but you do not need a chemically balanced life cycle to have life. As a matter of fact oxygen production on earth origionallly was not a balanced chemical process, meaning origionally plants produced oxygen and nothing used that oxygen for almost a billion years!
Why are you assuming it has to be a balanced process or a complicated life cycle?
Why can't life on mars be a simple lichen like life form (though lichen is a symbiont on earth) that slowly photosynthisies energy and leeched it trace elements out of rock. If it's a slow process or there is only a small amount of life they can go on doing what they are doing on mars without dispoiling there environment for as long as the sun literally shines.
"Magic" really? Do you think for yourself at all? You are an idot. Didn't you read the article mentioned? The adult "non-emprionic" stem cells are STEM CELLS! Duh, they can be induced to grow into many types of cells. The question is only if there genitic material is well preserved (free of mistakes) and if they are in fact as flexible as embrionic stem cells appear.
When we get beond our narrow focus on "genetics is everything" research and isolate the proteans unique to to stem cells as well as ova paticulary, the whole of current legislation of stemcells will be meaningless as we will probably be able to revert almost any body cell into a stemcell or perhaps even a fertilized embro. We no longer require cast offs from fertility treatment.
However we may be blocked from truely pursuing this research by emperically challenged ethisists and lawmakers who have no idea of the processes or marteials they are governing as they have already banned anything that could be called "cloning" and reverting a body cell to a stem cell or earlier for medical treatment is not that diffrent from cloning, though not the current technique currently successful at cloning.
The problem with these experiments is that they are not performed in a lab, they are performed with fixed and limited insturments by remote control. In the lab no one has been able to duplicate the LR experiments results with chemical reactants alone in realistic martian conditions. you might try reading the above link as it is genuinely interesting.
The viking tests for life came back more positive for life than if they had been conducted here in the sahara or antartica!
Nasa has for whatever reasons (probably not wanted to seem like kooks though some interdepartmental BS probably also played a part) buried and misrepresented these tests. "they are negitive" "they are inconclusive" "they are false positives"
Don't believe the programmers are dead and the tapes unredable. The man who designed that experiment is still alive, still pissed at nasa, and he as well as results of the origional test have been featured on slashdot before... No link for that but check out
http://www.biospherics.com/Mars
NASA no longer tests for life on mars and nixes any project that may! No test for life on mars is planned sooner than 2008-2009, and the budget will probably be cut out from that. This seems totally against the basic premis of inquery.
I didn't know that any musiucian can get airtime on MTV as it has become the TV channel of dumb game shows and spring break dance specials for jocks, there is just no rock-n-roll there anymore...
Maby Lars can put on a speedo and go to a florida beach they might cover that if the image doesn't break their camera.
No, the prosecution intended to, has already and insists on continuing to do real harm to the system admin, his finaces, his legal status, his emotional state and his reputation. They are far more guilty than the accused but they will argue that they shouldn't be blamed for doing there job while they will not extend the same provisions to the accused.
I can not see that the accused has caused any harm to the state of Georgia, it's computers, finaces, reputation or anyone in the state. The same can not be said about the DA in this case.
Such "massive deformities" are not that out of the norm. 4 and 5 leaf clover are common enough (certanly occuring more often than a 1 in a million chance). 4 leaf clovers tend to occure in patches, spending a hour looking through your lawn you will probably find some. I have found 4&5 leaf red clover like the article said and I live in virginia.
The vegtible and flower section showes me nothing I haven't seen before.
Two headed calfs are also somewhat common (we have millions of cows in america and they have short lives so...) there are cases of two headed calfs all over america. There are 32000 on google
http://www.google.com/search?q=two+headed+calf
The only thing desturbing was the claims that the farmers died of thyroid cancer and the phallic appearence of that dandilion.
O.K. Watson, again the earth is 4.5 billion years old. How come that molten Iron core isn't done settling? It's had long enough. The current movements in many way sap some energy (that does end up as heat) but the fact is there are many flows and they are powered by hat from nucler decay.
Don't you think other HEAVY ELEMENTS would have also settled towards the center like urainium, thorium etc??
Neither mechinism is as important as the heat the earth accumulated when it was accreated toghather.
http://www.sciam.com/askexpert/geology/geology7/ ge ology7.html
but I believe radiation does help continue to heat the earth.
Now you may call me einstien but what kind of science do you believe in where the FUSION of two hydrogen NUCLI, producing a new element helium (or deturium or tritium) releasing large quanta of energy by converting some MASS is not a NUCLEAR reaction? What kinda reaction is it then professor? Is it a chemical reaction? If the sun isn't NUCLER powered in your world is the earth also flat where you are, fschin' ID10T ?
"The pollution from coal and oil may be very harmful in the short run, but it degrades over time, and the carbon dioxide does get reabsorbed over a time span of at most hundreds of years. "
and it's laughable if it weren't so sad.... Coal Burning throws mercury, arsinic and sulfur into the air, unlike plutonium the halflife of these poisions is infinite. The damage coal does to everything is not reversable in your or my lifetime.
The environmental damage that coal production does (just digging it up) is horrible and I'm pretty certan more extensive than any environmental probles caused buy nuclear power. I'd also bet more people have lost there lives just mining coal than working with nuclear energy.
Then we burn coal and send the aformentioned mercury, arsinic and sulfur into the air plus soot and carbon monoxide and dioxide. these come right back into streams and rivers as soon a it rains, they kill fish. the acid rain caused from these chemicals also erodes cultural artifacts like buildings and sculpture.
With nuclear waste you 1) have it contained as opposed to releasing it. 2) there are ways of getting rid of it, encasing it in lead/cement and dropping it into a subduction zone is a pretty good idea. let it sink to the center of the earth and help keep the planet healthy by keeping it geologically active. Didn't you know life on earth owes it's existance to the earth being geologically active and the earth would not be geologically active without nuclear decay. This is a nuclear powered planet you live on.
This planet would have never recovered from the last snowball epoch (or the first or any other) and the cambrian explosion of life would never have occured without the warmth of nuclear decay.
Come on we need more nuclear waste fast. The earth is 4.5 billion years old or so and has used up half it's supply or uranium!
As for "the united states could cut it's energy usage by" I'm kinda doubtful, after all when has it ever done that? The last gas crisis, surely not.
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Yea, we get an article about how some guy thinks he's hot shit and tops at his "biddeness". Like this guy's ego is somehow newsworthy.
To clue anyone in, when you hear someone brag like the repo man does in this article it is usually a sign of total incompitence not just being a jackass.
Beyond an Ice Age, there is the possibility of having a snowball earth. A state where the abido effect of the icecaps reflecting light and therefore energy goes unchecked further lowering the tempature of the earth further freezing more oceans futher reflecting more light off there white surface untill you have frozen all the oceans of the world sevral miles deep and all the moisture in the air has been percipitated out and it is nearly impossible to find liqued water on the surface of the planet unless you look near a volcanic event.
This has happened two or three times in the geologic history of the earth most notibly right before the cambrian explosion of life.
The movie's premis that everything would appear to be flash frozen as is is a little unreaserched. However during a snoball earth event it's believed that the oceans are higher due to the fact that frozen water occupies more voluime than liqued and because all moisture has been precipitated out of the air you have ice over everything except where it may have sublimated, been eroded by wind, or melted by volcanic activity.
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This is a very kubric film, and I'm actually very pleased with the fact that it exists. It's very satisfying to have the closure that comes from this film as opposed to eyes wide shut and he dies before finishing that.
This is the movie he wanted to make, this is the movie he had very well fleshed out. The only thing unkubrician about it is somehow I'm not shure how david is important at all. yes he's the last examble of humanity in a way nut somehow he seems less important that a Sparticus, a lolita, a David Bowman or a deliquent named Alex.
The end did pull amany emotions from me. I think you could have kept the everything in the movie but if when david was running around in the house at the end what if he found his mnother and she loved him and it was all a simulation. Think how the strachild ended 2001.
David already showed plenty of breaks from reality, I'm not shure I believe he could ever be happy in the real world. A kubric ending would be a happy ending for david but a stranfgely sad one for us who would know it wasn't "Real".
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As far as these matrerials being "on loan" it is my understanding that surveys produced with public money by a government agency are not copyrightable (or not supposed to be) and that the information contained therein is public domain.
By asking libraries to destroy these materals the agency asking for destruction is asserting there athority over the librarian and library (that they might not actually have) and attempting to withdraw some information from the public domain. That is they are taking something away from us that they had forced us to pay for already.
As far as "too much information" allowing terrorists to know where the U.S.S Cole is docked, that's jsut laughable. It's a fucking big ship! how the fuck are you going to hide it? put everyone under house arrest and higher snbipers to take out anyone near a port who is not authorized to work there that day?
I believe there have been serious problems with the installer on OSX circa 1999, this is just the first one to hit the big time.
a ge s/InstallerWoes.html
http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Technical/Pack
No one told me about any doughnut theory therefore I'm not very troubled...
What are the precepts of this theory anyway? That because we see some matter spinning along a plane in an accretion disk there must be other matter doing about the same thing outside it?
Or is this one not even an actual theory but a failure of matter to behave the same as a simulation.
Anyway M87 is an elliptical galaxy, those typically have stars orbiting around there center every witch way not along a flat plane like out spiral galaxy. Why to we expect to see a plane of accretion around the center? because the Black hole MUST have had some angular momentum and transfers it to surrounding matter via tidal and gravitational force? because water always swirls down the drain? Why can't there be an elliptical acceleration area around a black hole that is 3D and not flat?
Why did my 60GB 60GXP just fail with symptoms so similar to the 75GXP failures (eg ever expanding bad media and the horribl Zit-Clit-Click-click trying to access any part of that defective media)
WTF haven't they shipped me a replacement yet either.
45 miles of cat 5? good one, how much will the repeater you have to put in every 300ft cost? will the connection still be valad even for 10bt after 4 hops.
Anyway the guy said he only had $80,000 to work with this wouldn't cover the layers fee to begin to do the leg work to dig for 45 miles...
Provided you've already upgraded the stock CPU form the 604e era to a g3 or a g4 it is perfectly usable.
Thanks for replying to a post with such horrible spelling errors.
I have a 60GB 60GXP that is going south. I has a spot of defective media about 1GB large. It's a shame as the tech in this drive is very advanced.
I've been trying to get it replaced and haver all data off it. My problem is I can't find where at IBM or on there site you get warrenty repair for a drive. I can find warrenty repairs for aptivas and other such junk but not for hard drives.
Anyone who has been through this point me in the right place to get started?
No sorry,
Temp public works jobs do spread the cash around and help the economy in a bad situation. Perminant public works jobs mearly expand in scope (like a black hole) and drain the economy because they are not selfsustaining fiscally but rely on you and I being able to fork over the tax dollars to pay for them.
You may be a bioligist grad student but sadly you have not proved me wrong. While some modern plants may use more oxyegn then they produce the vast majority don't, and we do know that oxygen production was in fact unbalanced for a long time in earth's history.
. ht ml
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/geo_timeline
Look from 3500 Million years ago to 1600 million years ago almost 1.9 billion of the earths 4.5 billion year history. During that time the chemistry of life was clearly not a balanced chemistry. Another poster pointed out geological chemistry had to absorb some of the excess.
I mean he can take what 12men? with 12box cutters and razor blades and in one morning they can take out the WTC and part of the Pentigon before 10AM.
MBA? Ha HA!
This is slashdot, made up of engineering types. Don't we all know this is the "special" degree they have to make management feel educated and proof positive 95% of the time that the holder is probably scientifically and mathematically illiterate and logically impaired.
Trees would have burned up certanly but there were none at the time, there wasn't too much out of the sea apperently and even that began to suffer from the over abundance of O2.
You are so not a biologist.
Neither am I but you do not need a chemically balanced life cycle to have life. As a matter of fact oxygen production on earth origionallly was not a balanced chemical process, meaning origionally plants produced oxygen and nothing used that oxygen for almost a billion years!
Why are you assuming it has to be a balanced process or a complicated life cycle?
Why can't life on mars be a simple lichen like life form (though lichen is a symbiont on earth) that slowly photosynthisies energy and leeched it trace elements out of rock. If it's a slow process or there is only a small amount of life they can go on doing what they are doing on mars without dispoiling there environment for as long as the sun literally shines.
"Magic" really? Do you think for yourself at all? You are an idot. Didn't you read the article mentioned? The adult "non-emprionic" stem cells are STEM CELLS! Duh, they can be induced to grow into many types of cells. The question is only if there genitic material is well preserved (free of mistakes) and if they are in fact as flexible as embrionic stem cells appear.
When we get beond our narrow focus on "genetics is everything" research and isolate the proteans unique to to stem cells as well as ova paticulary, the whole of current legislation of stemcells will be meaningless as we will probably be able to revert almost any body cell into a stemcell or perhaps even a fertilized embro. We no longer require cast offs from fertility treatment.
However we may be blocked from truely pursuing this research by emperically challenged ethisists and lawmakers who have no idea of the processes or marteials they are governing as they have already banned anything that could be called "cloning" and reverting a body cell to a stem cell or earlier for medical treatment is not that diffrent from cloning, though not the current technique currently successful at cloning.
No under a frosted frozen rock.
The problem with these experiments is that they are not performed in a lab, they are performed with fixed and limited insturments by remote control. In the lab no one has been able to duplicate the LR experiments results with chemical reactants alone in realistic martian conditions. you might try reading the above link as it is genuinely interesting.
The viking tests for life came back more positive for life than if they had been conducted here in the sahara or antartica! Nasa has for whatever reasons (probably not wanted to seem like kooks though some interdepartmental BS probably also played a part) buried and misrepresented these tests. "they are negitive" "they are inconclusive" "they are false positives" Don't believe the programmers are dead and the tapes unredable. The man who designed that experiment is still alive, still pissed at nasa, and he as well as results of the origional test have been featured on slashdot before... No link for that but check out http://www.biospherics.com/Mars NASA no longer tests for life on mars and nixes any project that may! No test for life on mars is planned sooner than 2008-2009, and the budget will probably be cut out from that. This seems totally against the basic premis of inquery.
I didn't know that any musiucian can get airtime on MTV as it has become the TV channel of dumb game shows and spring break dance specials for jocks, there is just no rock-n-roll there anymore...
Maby Lars can put on a speedo and go to a florida beach they might cover that if the image doesn't break their camera.
No, the prosecution intended to, has already and insists on continuing to do real harm to the system admin, his finaces, his legal status, his emotional state and his reputation. They are far more guilty than the accused but they will argue that they shouldn't be blamed for doing there job while they will not extend the same provisions to the accused.
I can not see that the accused has caused any harm to the state of Georgia, it's computers, finaces, reputation or anyone in the state. The same can not be said about the DA in this case.
Such "massive deformities" are not that out of the norm. 4 and 5 leaf clover are common enough (certanly occuring more often than a 1 in a million chance). 4 leaf clovers tend to occure in patches, spending a hour looking through your lawn you will probably find some. I have found 4&5 leaf red clover like the article said and I live in virginia.
The vegtible and flower section showes me nothing I haven't seen before.
Two headed calfs are also somewhat common (we have millions of cows in america and they have short lives so...) there are cases of two headed calfs all over america. There are 32000 on google
http://www.google.com/search?q=two+headed+calf
The only thing desturbing was the claims that the farmers died of thyroid cancer and the phallic appearence of that dandilion.
O.K. Watson, again the earth is 4.5 billion years old. How come that molten Iron core isn't done settling? It's had long enough. The current movements in many way sap some energy (that does end up as heat) but the fact is there are many flows and they are powered by hat from nucler decay.
/ ge ology7.html
Don't you think other HEAVY ELEMENTS would have also settled towards the center like urainium, thorium etc??
Neither mechinism is as important as the heat the earth accumulated when it was accreated toghather.
http://www.sciam.com/askexpert/geology/geology7
but I believe radiation does help continue to heat the earth.
Now you may call me einstien but what kind of science do you believe in where the FUSION of two hydrogen NUCLI, producing a new element helium (or deturium or tritium) releasing large quanta of energy by converting some MASS is not a NUCLEAR reaction? What kinda reaction is it then professor? Is it a chemical reaction? If the sun isn't NUCLER powered in your world is the earth also flat where you are, fschin' ID10T ?
you said:
"The pollution from coal and oil may be very harmful in the short run, but it degrades over time, and the carbon dioxide does get reabsorbed over a time span of at most hundreds of years. "
and it's laughable if it weren't so sad.... Coal Burning throws mercury, arsinic and sulfur into the air, unlike plutonium the halflife of these poisions is infinite. The damage coal does to everything is not reversable in your or my lifetime.
The environmental damage that coal production does (just digging it up) is horrible and I'm pretty certan more extensive than any environmental probles caused buy nuclear power. I'd also bet more people have lost there lives just mining coal than working with nuclear energy.
Then we burn coal and send the aformentioned mercury, arsinic and sulfur into the air plus soot and carbon monoxide and dioxide. these come right back into streams and rivers as soon a it rains, they kill fish. the acid rain caused from these chemicals also erodes cultural artifacts like buildings and sculpture.
With nuclear waste you 1) have it contained as opposed to releasing it. 2) there are ways of getting rid of it, encasing it in lead/cement and dropping it into a subduction zone is a pretty good idea. let it sink to the center of the earth and help keep the planet healthy by keeping it geologically active. Didn't you know life on earth owes it's existance to the earth being geologically active and the earth would not be geologically active without nuclear decay. This is a nuclear powered planet you live on.
This planet would have never recovered from the last snowball epoch (or the first or any other) and the cambrian explosion of life would never have occured without the warmth of nuclear decay.
Come on we need more nuclear waste fast. The earth is 4.5 billion years old or so and has used up half it's supply or uranium!
As for "the united states could cut it's energy usage by" I'm kinda doubtful, after all when has it ever done that? The last gas crisis, surely not.
Yea, we get an article about how some guy thinks he's hot shit and tops at his "biddeness". Like this guy's ego is somehow newsworthy.
To clue anyone in, when you hear someone brag like the repo man does in this article it is usually a sign of total incompitence not just being a jackass.
Beyond an Ice Age, there is the possibility of having a snowball earth. A state where the abido effect of the icecaps reflecting light and therefore energy goes unchecked further lowering the tempature of the earth further freezing more oceans futher reflecting more light off there white surface untill you have frozen all the oceans of the world sevral miles deep and all the moisture in the air has been percipitated out and it is nearly impossible to find liqued water on the surface of the planet unless you look near a volcanic event.
This has happened two or three times in the geologic history of the earth most notibly right before the cambrian explosion of life.
The movie's premis that everything would appear to be flash frozen as is is a little unreaserched. However during a snoball earth event it's believed that the oceans are higher due to the fact that frozen water occupies more voluime than liqued and because all moisture has been precipitated out of the air you have ice over everything except where it may have sublimated, been eroded by wind, or melted by volcanic activity.
This is a very kubric film, and I'm actually very pleased with the fact that it exists. It's very satisfying to have the closure that comes from this film as opposed to eyes wide shut and he dies before finishing that.
This is the movie he wanted to make, this is the movie he had very well fleshed out. The only thing unkubrician about it is somehow I'm not shure how david is important at all. yes he's the last examble of humanity in a way nut somehow he seems less important that a Sparticus, a lolita, a David Bowman or a deliquent named Alex.
The end did pull amany emotions from me. I think you could have kept the everything in the movie but if when david was running around in the house at the end what if he found his mnother and she loved him and it was all a simulation. Think how the strachild ended 2001.
David already showed plenty of breaks from reality, I'm not shure I believe he could ever be happy in the real world. A kubric ending would be a happy ending for david but a stranfgely sad one for us who would know it wasn't "Real".