While its very easy to rant and rave about the violations of individual liberties happening in India, we Americans. forget that we live in a country and society far different than that of other nations. The sterotypical slashdotter lives in a relatively priviledged country and environment as far as personal freedom goes. I wouldn't say that other countries are in a worse situation - maybe from our viewpoint, but OUR VIEWS ARE NOT GLOBAL. Indian society is much different than that of America's, and we don't seem to account for these differences. Have you considered that individual liberty may in fact *not* be as important as, say, moral and community values? Sure, they're dictated by the state in India, and don't attack this practice with the same liberal mentality. Not all people feel violated when the government takes away certain rights to benefit something else. The mindset of a rabid individualist is generally valued throughout the world today because America, as the strongest power, has enough influence to spread these values. Wait until the cycle passes and America is humbled. Our prized notions of individual liberty will weaken as does our global power.
I'm not a communist or anything, I'm just saying that all the liberalism I see on slashdot is getting pretty tiring and unjustified.
: Noooo! Damn NASA stole our gesture movement! It was so original, and inventive, and was destined to win us a commanding lead in the browser wars!
: Well, sir, actually NASA isn't affecting our market share. After all, we too just stole the ideas from some callow Norwegian boy. And, "browser wars?" that is so passe. I believe the correct, *modern* term is "NapB2B-JavaRIAA.com"
not to be a troll or anything (I run OpenBSD on a few of my boxes), but OpenBSD is still affected by a large amount of root holes. A Linux box with OpenBSD's inetd.conf could be kept secure for years:) . Seriously, OpenBSD has done a great job of cleaning up security, but some big bugs still get through (in particular i remember the ftpd one-byte buffer overflow and the recent hole with glob(), and IPSec too). They may not be default, but basically all sites run more than the base system.
heh heh...looks like amount of work varies inversely with how well the economy is doing.
Either that, or people are doing a lot less work because of layoffs....
i don't know about you guys, but I really like English. Its cross-platform compatible (especially in America), and I've had a lot of experience with it (I've known it since I was like 2). Some people get hung up on the syntax but man it totally kicks lisps ass:)
I'm glad to see this sort of development happening in FreeBSD. Much more work has been done on the i386, the "main" FreeBSD platform. Hopefully alpha support will become as mature as the i386 code so that this "main platform" conception goes away. Of course, its no where NetBSD, but even still its certainly an improvement.
All I want to know is when OpenBSD is going to get SMP for any platform...
Soon enough, information will be distributed in a closed manner similar to this. People who wish to view this information will have to use The System. Big Media will team up with Big Microsoft to form one huge monopoly that *no one* can break. (See: Windows XP and MP3). Unfortunately, most attempts by the open source community et al will fail because secrets to reading information will be kept only by the monopolizers (See: DeCSS encryption). The occasional advances made by the community will be stopped by lawyers and legislation (See: Your Rights Online).
Possible Endings:
1) You have been assimilated into the Complex. Do not resist.
2) Viva la comunista! Down with the capitalist regime!
3)...
In order for non-commercial operating systems to succeed, they must deliver competitive software in the following areas:
1) Single User applications (mail readers, etc.)
2) Games
3) Content delivery daemons (apache)
4) Group-oriented corporate programs
The first 3 fields are being actively conquered. Sure, there's much room for improvement, but hey -- we've come a long way, baby. The fourth segment is the most crucial for truly capturing the corporate market. Apps like Outlook still remain essentially untouched by the open source movement. (I believe/. did a story on this some time ago). It's still the area which needs the most improvement.
Here is a pattern I have generally seen throughout the technology/ opensource/ slashdot/ internet world. When geeks (er, IT Professionals) first start out, they build a home network with their Old PCs. Each computer is running Linux or a similar OS. Every component and file in/etc is tweaked for maximum performance from their hardware. If something is broken, they spend hours fixing it. This is essentially a Level 1 Open Source Zealot: they love linux and despise bloated corporations like IBM and Microsoft with their bloated, expensive programs.
After a period of OS switching in the quest for geekdom, they begin to grow out of things like Linux and the Open Source movement. OSs like QNX and Solaris are considered and used in their expanding network (if they don't have a job by now). Trivial details are forgotten and network structure is more heavily considered. This pattern of evolution is seen all throughout the IT world.
What about physical threats? Starting next week I want my IBM Servers built with Terminator-2 Style advanced steel. My servers also need to choose and manage their software by themselves. They also need to communicate with my various clients, manage business proposals, and drag my lazy ass off slashdot when I'm supposed to be working.
Is the Chinese Government just going to regulate the major IP backbones? What about (older, slower) technologies that don't use IP or the major backbones for that matter? I'm talking about direct-dialup encrypted modem connections. Of course, a billion people on 56k lines is sort of silly, but its a thought..
I'm in a similar situation. I have an extra netopia DSL Router, and my old ISP refuses to take them back. Why not turn to EBay? Prices will ultimately fall (I can't believe I payed $250 for this piece of junk!) as demand decreases and supply grows. Which leads me to Marx's theory on capitalist overproduction...
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While its very easy to rant and rave about the violations of individual liberties happening in India, we Americans. forget that we live in a country and society far different than that of other nations. The sterotypical slashdotter lives in a relatively priviledged country and environment as far as personal freedom goes. I wouldn't say that other countries are in a worse situation - maybe from our viewpoint, but OUR VIEWS ARE NOT GLOBAL. Indian society is much different than that of America's, and we don't seem to account for these differences. Have you considered that individual liberty may in fact *not* be as important as, say, moral and community values? Sure, they're dictated by the state in India, and don't attack this practice with the same liberal mentality. Not all people feel violated when the government takes away certain rights to benefit something else. The mindset of a rabid individualist is generally valued throughout the world today because America, as the strongest power, has enough influence to spread these values. Wait until the cycle passes and America is humbled. Our prized notions of individual liberty will weaken as does our global power.
I'm not a communist or anything, I'm just saying that all the liberalism I see on slashdot is getting pretty tiring and unjustified.
what a coincidence -- suck has some commentary on gracenote and other similar companies in their daily essay. Mmmm....suck...filler archives....
: Noooo! Damn NASA stole our gesture movement! It was so original, and inventive, and was destined to win us a commanding lead in the browser wars!
: Well, sir, actually NASA isn't affecting our market share. After all, we too just stole the ideas from some callow Norwegian boy. And, "browser wars?" that is so passe. I believe the correct, *modern* term is "NapB2B-JavaRIAA.com"
not to be a troll or anything (I run OpenBSD on a few of my boxes), but OpenBSD is still affected by a large amount of root holes. A Linux box with OpenBSD's inetd.conf could be kept secure for years :) . Seriously, OpenBSD has done a great job of cleaning up security, but some big bugs still get through (in particular i remember the ftpd one-byte buffer overflow and the recent hole with glob(), and IPSec too). They may not be default, but basically all sites run more than the base system.
heh heh...looks like amount of work varies inversely with how well the economy is doing.
Either that, or people are doing a lot less work because of layoffs....
i don't know about you guys, but I really like English. Its cross-platform compatible (especially in America), and I've had a lot of experience with it (I've known it since I was like 2). Some people get hung up on the syntax but man it totally kicks lisps ass :)
I'm glad to see this sort of development happening in FreeBSD. Much more work has been done on the i386, the "main" FreeBSD platform. Hopefully alpha support will become as mature as the i386 code so that this "main platform" conception goes away. Of course, its no where NetBSD, but even still its certainly an improvement.
All I want to know is when OpenBSD is going to get SMP for any platform...
The seeds of the future have been planted...
...
Soon enough, information will be distributed in a closed manner similar to this. People who wish to view this information will have to use The System. Big Media will team up with Big Microsoft to form one huge monopoly that *no one* can break. (See: Windows XP and MP3). Unfortunately, most attempts by the open source community et al will fail because secrets to reading information will be kept only by the monopolizers (See: DeCSS encryption). The occasional advances made by the community will be stopped by lawyers and legislation (See: Your Rights Online).
Possible Endings:
1) You have been assimilated into the Complex. Do not resist.
2) Viva la comunista! Down with the capitalist regime!
3)
In order for non-commercial operating systems to succeed, they must deliver competitive software in the following areas:
/. did a story on this some time ago). It's still the area which needs the most improvement.
1) Single User applications (mail readers, etc.)
2) Games
3) Content delivery daemons (apache)
4) Group-oriented corporate programs
The first 3 fields are being actively conquered. Sure, there's much room for improvement, but hey -- we've come a long way, baby. The fourth segment is the most crucial for truly capturing the corporate market. Apps like Outlook still remain essentially untouched by the open source movement. (I believe
Here is a pattern I have generally seen throughout the technology/ opensource/ slashdot/ internet world. When geeks (er, IT Professionals) first start out, they build a home network with their Old PCs. Each computer is running Linux or a similar OS. Every component and file in /etc is tweaked for maximum performance from their hardware. If something is broken, they spend hours fixing it. This is essentially a Level 1 Open Source Zealot: they love linux and despise bloated corporations like IBM and Microsoft with their bloated, expensive programs.
After a period of OS switching in the quest for geekdom, they begin to grow out of things like Linux and the Open Source movement. OSs like QNX and Solaris are considered and used in their expanding network (if they don't have a job by now). Trivial details are forgotten and network structure is more heavily considered. This pattern of evolution is seen all throughout the IT world.
What about physical threats? Starting next week I want my IBM Servers built with Terminator-2 Style advanced steel. My servers also need to choose and manage their software by themselves. They also need to communicate with my various clients, manage business proposals, and drag my lazy ass off slashdot when I'm supposed to be working.
Is the Chinese Government just going to regulate the major IP backbones? What about (older, slower) technologies that don't use IP or the major backbones for that matter? I'm talking about direct-dialup encrypted modem connections. Of course, a billion people on 56k lines is sort of silly, but its a thought..
I'm in a similar situation. I have an extra netopia DSL Router, and my old ISP refuses to take them back. Why not turn to EBay? Prices will ultimately fall (I can't believe I payed $250 for this piece of junk!) as demand decreases and supply grows. Which leads me to Marx's theory on capitalist overproduction...