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  1. Re: The end is near? on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    The ones that aren't in denial are noticing. The rest will notice soon after.

  2. Re:Let's hope it's true! on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    I get that, but we were talking about the need for urgency. Does a problem become less urgent, when you don't have a fair solution ?

  3. Re: Paging Dr. Faustus on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    I mean the main inland ice sheet is 100,000 years old. Obviously, the edges of Greenland are much more sensitive to small temperature fluctuations and local climate changes.

  4. Re:It's not that we deny climate change on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    The logarithmic response is correct, but the current best estimates put the warming at 3C per doubling of CO2. https://www.skepticalscience.c...

  5. Re:Let's hope it's true! on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    So what are you trying to say ?

  6. Re: Paging Dr. Faustus on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    Do it yourself.

  7. Re:The end is near? on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    The people in Miami are noticing.

  8. Re:The end is near? on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    There's enough known reserves to keep us going for several more centuries

    Reserves don't mean much if they can't sustain the current production rate.

  9. Re:Paging Dr. Faustus on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    This time they're making a prediction for next week, not 5 years in the future.

  10. Re:Paging Dr. Faustus on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Greenland has been losing about 270 gigatons of ice per year lately, but the pace is likely to accelerate as the warming continues.

  11. Re:if they "marvel" on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    They can't be very good scientists if they "marvel" at long predicted and long observed gradual changes in climate

    The particular changes this arctic winter have not been long predicted, and aren't gradual.

  12. Re:some crap models produce crap on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    if the model simulation is saying 50C higher, I'd get a better model, some fruit loop must have messed with the parameters.

    No, it's saying 50F higher. And since we've already seen 30-50F high anomalies this winter, the model output is perfectly plausible.

  13. Re: Paging Dr. Faustus on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    If you look at the history of the Vikings, you will notice an odd naming of Greenland

    The Greenland ice sheet is 100,000 years old, so it was there when the Vikings visited it. The Vikings did find some green parts along the edges, but these are green today as well. See this documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  14. Re:It's not that we deny climate change on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    The same thing that caused it last time, a mix of planetary wobble and solar activity

    Solar activity has been down lately, and wobbles are too slow or too insignificant.

  15. Re:It's not that we deny climate change on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    remnants of 2016 El Nino? Or maybe it's accumulated pollution from China

    I mean the warming of the last 40 years, not just this year.

  16. Re:Let's hope it's true! on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 2

    One tenth of an inch a year, I'm just not feeling your sense of urgency here

    Yeah, let's wait until it's urgent, and then find out we're too late to change anything.

  17. Re:It's not that we deny climate change on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    So, if this sudden warming is part of a natural cycles, what's causing it ? Why is it happening now ?

  18. Re:The end is near? on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    Why is it that all climate change responses are about people giving up personal freedom

    You're going to have to give up your personal freedom when we run out of fossil fuels anyway. Better get a head start on the rest of the world.

  19. Re:Paging Dr. Faustus on Scientists Marvel At 'Increasingly Non-Natural' Arctic Warmth (msn.com) · · Score: 2

    The article is talking about summer ice cap, and you're showing a graph of the winter. Current low record for extend of arctic summer ice is about 3.5 million km, from september 2013. Granted, 2013 wasn't ice-free, but that was an early estimate from one overexcited scientist. We're getting close, though, but the exact year depends on a lot on the particular weather.

  20. Re:And in other news on AI Decisively Defeats Four Pro Poker Players In 'Brains Vs AI' Tournament (ieee.org) · · Score: 1

    Compare animals with small nervous systems and animals with huge nervous systems. There is no fundamental difference, except one is bigger than the other. The same will happen with AI. As the problem solvers get bigger, and more and more skillful and wider scoped, they'll evolve into more and more general intelligence.

  21. Re:And in other news on AI Decisively Defeats Four Pro Poker Players In 'Brains Vs AI' Tournament (ieee.org) · · Score: 1

    Definitions are cute, but the proof is in a test. Please explain how *you* would test if a machine has strong AI.

  22. Re:And in other news on AI Decisively Defeats Four Pro Poker Players In 'Brains Vs AI' Tournament (ieee.org) · · Score: 1

    There are not even theories how general AI could be created.

    Do you accept that a general AI can be build out of simple parts that follow strictly deterministic mechanical rules ? If not, you will never find the theory you are looking for.

  23. Re:And in other news on AI Decisively Defeats Four Pro Poker Players In 'Brains Vs AI' Tournament (ieee.org) · · Score: 1

    Strong AI is like the secret marble you can feel in a stack of envelopes. Research will continue to peel away all the envelopes until it reaches the bottom of the stack, without ever finding a marble. The marble is an illusion.

  24. If you don't do many trades as a small player, it doesn't matter that someone is skimming razor thin margins off your transactions.

  25. Re:This doesn't seem that impressive on AI Decisively Defeats Four Pro Poker Players In 'Brains Vs AI' Tournament (ieee.org) · · Score: 1

    Every AI becomes weak AI as soon as it is solved.