When our government was formed, the whole idea was to have citizen legislators...
And they believed that witches were real too...
Now everyone thinks you have to do this for 30 years before you're "ready".
Because time has shown that experience is actually a valuable trait in any given field of expertise.
She is so completely out of touch with the average person...
At least Trump has a chance...
They are both as equally out of touch as each other, but at least Clinton has experience. This doesn't guarantee she'll do any good, it just means she's less likely to create a huge fucking mess than the novice option.
Whether you are red or blue or a circle or square, we should all at least agree the the top job should be filled by someone who has at least some political experience.
Maybe Trump will do something, maybe he won't. I have no idea. But I know for darn sure Clinton won't, she is bought and paid for...
I had this electrical problem once. The sparky came over, told me it was a huge job, was going to cost thousands to fix, but that didn't sound like what I wanted to hear. So I just asked some guy off the street and he said he'll make my wiring stronger again. Even though he had no electrical training, that sounded better to me than the other guy, so I hired him instead.
As for houses washing away and such - any land that can be "submerged" solely by a sea level change of 25 cm was already getting scoured regularly by waves, storm surges, etc.
Ok I don't want to get involved in stupid AGW arguments, but I used to live in a place that lost it's beach when a new ferry service started up nearby.
The ferry only generated wake of a few cms, but the constant wake, along a water system that wasn't used to it caused a significant change in the ecosystem.
So yeah, there's probably a bit more to it than just raw numbers.
I am curious about what you disagree with. Do you disagree that I attempted to add something to the discussion?
Absolutely not. That is the point of a discussion.
Or perhaps you disagree that false claims are being promoted?
That's it.
If you are foolish enough to think that the laws about handling classified information have not been violated, your problem is much worse than simple false claims.
I'm not foolish enough to think the entire legal case has been presented via the media.
There are plenty of people here who have held security clearances (some still with an active clearance). There is a lot of training that goes along with that clearance.
I never received any training, and I've worked at multiple agencies, and I still have active clearance. Maybe the process isn't as robust as you'd like to think?
I would remind you what you posted above about "maybe we let due process take it's course". And hopefully anyone seeing this information will not be thinking they know what I personally like but will be in a better position to know what is less true.
Ok so here's the deal. If Hillary gets off, you admit you were wrong, if she gets done, I'll admit I was wrong. Sound fair?
Oh ok, so the almost non-existent market share of Linux Desktop users talk to other almost non-existent Linux desktop users, and we're supposed to infer from this Windows is dead? The Linux desktop revolution is just around the corner?
Wake me up when it happens because I've heard these exact same claims for the last 20 years...
So instead, you make your own childish comment about them not providing any references and you provide a Wikipedia link that proves their point. If you had read your own link,
Yes I provided a link, so the reader can make up their own mind. Do you know the difference between that and un-referenced claims of fact (that appear all too often in this place)?
you could have noticed a reference to emails that "were classified from the start." and "born classified". But since it seems to be too much effort to look at reference #90 in that sea of information, I will simplify it for you by providing that link here.
I read that, it is an opinion piece open to interpretation. Having experience with Federal Government Security classifications, I assure this type of thing occurs on a daily basis. Nothing in your link is a smoking gun (yet - maybe there's more, but right now, nothing).
But perhaps your goal was to sound informative and hope that the truth would be buried too deep for most people to actually understand it.
My goal was to add to the discussion by providing citations, so people can do their own research. You did that so it clearly worked.
Just my attempt to add something to this discussion. The false claims still seem to be promoted but evidence clearly shows the laws about handling classified information were broken.
I disagree. And instead of trial by media, maybe we let due process take it's course. Because I assure you, there are people much a smarter than us, who hate Clinton much more than anyone here, and they want blood.
So who to say at this point, if I had to bet money, I say she's fine and will survive intact and be the next president. You may not like that, but it won't make it any less true.
although it appears none of the material was classified at the time it was sent but has been deemed classified later
False, so much so that only people still making that claim are either members of the Clinton campaign or it's most braindead supporters.
You know you could've used this space to provide a reference to your claim, instead it just went the retard path and moaned like a child without adding anything to the discussion.
I don't know what the real story is, but just googled it now and Wikipedia agrees with the GP.
If that is the case, then this is a non-story.
people used to ask "why don't you use windows?" but since Windows 10 started pestering everyone, people actually ask serious questions about switching to Linux.:D
Linux won't ruin your game by popping up a window and forcing you to do updates. You can't say that about Windows.
Unless you disable automatic updates, which kind of makes sense right?
It's a bit rich to enable automatic updates, then complain when your PC is updated automatically...
Linux doesn't do lots of things, which is why Windows has had 90% market share on the desktop for the 25 years Linux has been in existence.
Windows on the desktop might suck, but Linux on the desktop sucks even more.
I'm trying to wrap my head around the concept of people not just making a little side money, but actually apparently a few making a decent living by streaming themselves playing fucking video games?!?!?
This same argument was used for television, movies, sport, interpretive dance, chariot racing, any new entertainment at anytime anywhere in human history.
There is nothing intrinsically special about your chosen entertainment choices, why do you think this is different?
The scenario you just gave would be lucky to be relevant to even one person. Monitoring the email address of a target so you can track their cell phone so you can then airstrike them? How many Slashdot readers face this as real threat?
i think "many" is a little bit of any overstatement.
So, here's my question. If Hillary gets indicted, convicted, or goes to jail, etc., after the DNC picks her as the candidate, but before the general elections...
Obama pardons her and she still gets the top job. But it'll never get that far, the stability of the country is more important than a political witch-hunt.
I know this topic incites rage among Hillary haters, but for most everyone else it's a non-issue. Every candidate has dirt on them in one form or another. You don't get to the top without some blood on your sleeves.
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When our government was formed, the whole idea was to have citizen legislators...
And they believed that witches were real too...
Now everyone thinks you have to do this for 30 years before you're "ready".
Because time has shown that experience is actually a valuable trait in any given field of expertise.
She is so completely out of touch with the average person...
At least Trump has a chance...
They are both as equally out of touch as each other, but at least Clinton has experience. This doesn't guarantee she'll do any good, it just means she's less likely to create a huge fucking mess than the novice option. Whether you are red or blue or a circle or square, we should all at least agree the the top job should be filled by someone who has at least some political experience.
This, a thousand times this...
Maybe Trump will do something, maybe he won't. I have no idea. But I know for darn sure Clinton won't, she is bought and paid for...
I had this electrical problem once. The sparky came over, told me it was a huge job, was going to cost thousands to fix, but that didn't sound like what I wanted to hear. So I just asked some guy off the street and he said he'll make my wiring stronger again. Even though he had no electrical training, that sounded better to me than the other guy, so I hired him instead.
As for houses washing away and such - any land that can be "submerged" solely by a sea level change of 25 cm was already getting scoured regularly by waves, storm surges, etc.
Ok I don't want to get involved in stupid AGW arguments, but I used to live in a place that lost it's beach when a new ferry service started up nearby.
The ferry only generated wake of a few cms, but the constant wake, along a water system that wasn't used to it caused a significant change in the ecosystem.
So yeah, there's probably a bit more to it than just raw numbers.
I am curious about what you disagree with. Do you disagree that I attempted to add something to the discussion?
Absolutely not. That is the point of a discussion.
Or perhaps you disagree that false claims are being promoted?
That's it.
If you are foolish enough to think that the laws about handling classified information have not been violated, your problem is much worse than simple false claims.
I'm not foolish enough to think the entire legal case has been presented via the media.
There are plenty of people here who have held security clearances (some still with an active clearance). There is a lot of training that goes along with that clearance.
I never received any training, and I've worked at multiple agencies, and I still have active clearance. Maybe the process isn't as robust as you'd like to think?
I would remind you what you posted above about "maybe we let due process take it's course". And hopefully anyone seeing this information will not be thinking they know what I personally like but will be in a better position to know what is less true.
Ok so here's the deal. If Hillary gets off, you admit you were wrong, if she gets done, I'll admit I was wrong. Sound fair?
Oh ok, so the almost non-existent market share of Linux Desktop users talk to other almost non-existent Linux desktop users, and we're supposed to infer from this Windows is dead? The Linux desktop revolution is just around the corner?
Wake me up when it happens because I've heard these exact same claims for the last 20 years...
But, personally? He's a serial womanizer, and people who support him keep telling me that it's really important and really wrong.
When Republicans do it.
Those people, whoever they are....
So instead, you make your own childish comment about them not providing any references and you provide a Wikipedia link that proves their point. If you had read your own link,
Yes I provided a link, so the reader can make up their own mind. Do you know the difference between that and un-referenced claims of fact (that appear all too often in this place)?
you could have noticed a reference to emails that "were classified from the start." and "born classified". But since it seems to be too much effort to look at reference #90 in that sea of information, I will simplify it for you by providing that link here.
I read that, it is an opinion piece open to interpretation. Having experience with Federal Government Security classifications, I assure this type of thing occurs on a daily basis. Nothing in your link is a smoking gun (yet - maybe there's more, but right now, nothing).
But perhaps your goal was to sound informative and hope that the truth would be buried too deep for most people to actually understand it.
My goal was to add to the discussion by providing citations, so people can do their own research. You did that so it clearly worked.
Just my attempt to add something to this discussion. The false claims still seem to be promoted but evidence clearly shows the laws about handling classified information were broken.
I disagree. And instead of trial by media, maybe we let due process take it's course. Because I assure you, there are people much a smarter than us, who hate Clinton much more than anyone here, and they want blood.
So who to say at this point, if I had to bet money, I say she's fine and will survive intact and be the next president. You may not like that, but it won't make it any less true.
just remember....... android is using the linux kernel...
And every license incurs a fee to Microsoft, ho ho ho....
Right, Linux doesn't get constantly loaded down with malware or humiliate you with oppressive license terms or make you...
And yet people still choose it over Linux. How much must that suck?
BTW, Linux is currently installed on way more computers than Windows is
Good for you. Not on topic, but if it makes you feel better...
Sigh, here we go again. He was impeached for lying under oath, also known as perjury. It's a crime. And, by the way, we know he lied.
Yes but how did that work out for you? You got angry, the Clinton's kept winning. Perhaps it's time to move on?
Cite another top government official who has even approached that level of deliberately hiding ALL OF THEIR OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE from scrutiny.
Cite another top government official who publicly disclosed ALL OF THEIR OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE.
Meh, storm, teacup, no matter how angry you get, Hillary stills wins.
False, so much so that only people still making that claim are either members of the Clinton campaign or it's most braindead supporters.
You know you could've used this space to provide a reference to your claim, instead it just went the retard path and moaned like a child without adding anything to the discussion.
I don't know what the real story is, but just googled it now and Wikipedia agrees with the GP.
If that is the case, then this is a non-story.
Haha, you win the Internet for today!
people used to ask "why don't you use windows?" but since Windows 10 started pestering everyone, people actually ask serious questions about switching to Linux. :D
Which "people" are these?
Where I work, the water cooler talk usually involves drinking or tits. Your place sounds fucking horrible.
Linux won't ruin your game by popping up a window and forcing you to do updates. You can't say that about Windows.
Unless you disable automatic updates, which kind of makes sense right?
It's a bit rich to enable automatic updates, then complain when your PC is updated automatically...
Linux doesn't do that...
Linux doesn't do lots of things, which is why Windows has had 90% market share on the desktop for the 25 years Linux has been in existence.
Windows on the desktop might suck, but Linux on the desktop sucks even more.
I'm trying to wrap my head around the concept of people not just making a little side money, but actually apparently a few making a decent living by streaming themselves playing fucking video games?!?!?
This same argument was used for television, movies, sport, interpretive dance, chariot racing, any new entertainment at anytime anywhere in human history.
There is nothing intrinsically special about your chosen entertainment choices, why do you think this is different?
Many people...
The scenario you just gave would be lucky to be relevant to even one person. Monitoring the email address of a target so you can track their cell phone so you can then airstrike them? How many Slashdot readers face this as real threat?
i think "many" is a little bit of any overstatement.
it's OK if a Romanian hacker and about 10 others got into her E-mail server. All the documents on it were declassified, because she said so.
Yet you believe this guy purely because he said so. Ironic.
Here's what's clear to anyone and everyone who lives in their mom's basement:
FTFY
So, here's my question. If Hillary gets indicted, convicted, or goes to jail, etc., after the DNC picks her as the candidate, but before the general elections...
Obama pardons her and she still gets the top job. But it'll never get that far, the stability of the country is more important than a political witch-hunt.
I know this topic incites rage among Hillary haters, but for most everyone else it's a non-issue. Every candidate has dirt on them in one form or another. You don't get to the top without some blood on your sleeves.
Sorry, but "hacking" in the way this was done is not hacking, it was more like being a peeping Tom.
Oh ok, let's just ignore the established legal definition and just go with what some anonymous internet guy thinks...
Do you not know how the Post button works?
Why is he in jail and Hillary isn't? If anything, he's a whistleblower on major criminal activity.
Two reasons:
1. "a report from Fox News"
2. "Fox News could not independently confirm Lazar's claims"
You need to improve your critical thinking skills before calling for the noose...