1. When presented with a large set of expert testemony and facts, completely ignore those aspects of the facts that do not support you. Don't acknowledge them. Pretend they don't exist.
Thanks. That is exactly what you did in your use of the Cerf quotation. You ignored the parts that showed your case to be wrong. I read and used it all. Most of it, however, lauds Gore for what he did to help the Internet long after others created it. It is kind off-topic.
"2. Search the testemony for the occasional awkward phrase or incomplete coverage."
You probably did this too. Not sure where!
"3. Change the definition of words to use a definition different than what the author meant"
That is exactly what you do when you change the definition of "Create" to something other than create.
There are two approaches to debate:
1. Try to establish the truth.
2. Try to win the arguement.
In this, I am using the first. My sources are Gore's actual quote on CNN and rock-solid histories of the Internet that show when things actually occured. Please see the summary at the end. Whether or not I win, who cares. Hopefully, someday you will look at the sequence of events.
"These are also the main tactics you are using in this thread."
The first set of tactics sure fits what you did, especially in the Cerf quotations.
"They only show that you are not interested in the truth"
If I wasn't interested in the truth, why do I insist on referring to actual words and actual chronologies? The Internet was created before Gore was in Congress. We all know this is true. Yet. you insist it is not. It appears you are not interested in the truth. Do your homework. Find out when Gore first got to Congress.
but rather in either protecting your disapproval or Gore or protecting your own arrogance.
It is not arrogance to have the knowledge of certain historical facts which you insist on ignorance of. I do not have "disapproval" of Gore for this incorrect statement. Gore admitted he misspoke. He's a sensibie guy Many misspeak during interviews. The ones I have disapproval of are the ones who for no good reason are insisting that Gore's admitted error is true. In effect, you are calling Gore a liar for insisting that his interview stumble is factual when Gore admitted it was a simple mistake.
"1. Create != Invent. I can create a computer by buying parts and assembling them."
Depends on the context. If you say "you create The Computer", this means that you created the first one, Invent means the same in such a context. Is your analogy intentionally false? Gore did not say that he "created an internet".
It is a distinct difference in definition that can only be missed if you intentionally want to misinterpret it."
I wonder what explains your getting the analogy so wrong.
Gore can create the internet by bringing together the time....
Yet, he didn't. He got there too late: others had already done this before. It is a matter of historical record that the Internet was created and named as such before Gore was in Congress.
"It is not invention and Gore never said it was."
Yet, in his mistatement, it is. Regardless of who did it when, creating the Internet is invention. "Invention" is always an appropriate word for creating an entire new technology.
"That was done by some dumbass who was intentionally trying to take him down. "
Gore was the only one talking during the CNN interview. The statement was his alone. Looks like you are calling him a dumbass. I don't think he is. Or do you think that Wolf Blitzer is a diabolical fiend who sandbagged him?
"2. Internet != internetworking."
It is not chopped liver, either. This is a bogus argument. Who equated them? Not Gore, not me.
Next....
"Internet is a proper noun, the name of the large network of computers based around TCP/IP and the root name ser
"So "She invented life" referring to a woman giving birth would be correct parapfrasing as well? "
Sometimes, invent is not correct in paraphrasing. For some reason, "invent" is never used for life forms. It is often used for technologies. Also, this is yet another bad analogy (creating one of many vs creating something for the first time. The latter is like inventing). You are missing it in two different ways.
"Nah. I think you are just purposefully taking the most improbable interpretation because it makes someone you don't like appear stupid"
No, it doesn't make Gore look stupid. He even admitted he misspoke later. He would only look like an idiot if he insisted that the phony statement was true. It does shine a negative light on those who alter words beyond meaning to justify a false statement that never can be true.
"From what I heard on the radio, Bush tore them a new asshole."
I bet the horrible wet ripping sound of this happening was pretty bad with just sound. I'm glad I don't have to see this on TV. It would probably look too much like goatse.
"There will be societal issues revolving around access to information eventually, but I'm not sure determining those is the job of the private sector"
When it comes to determining content of your own site, I am 100% emphatic that the "job" goes to the "private sector" so to speak. That is the 1st Amendment, after all.
"Any idea why your site would not have been indexed?"
No, but someone said that Google would have indexed me if I had paid Google.
"The only way to get from "create" to such a use use of "invent" is by willfully misinterpreting"
No, it is by looking at what the word means. The two mean the same thing in this context of Mr. Gore's quotes.
"It is easy to choose to hear what you want, especially if it casts someone you don't like in a bad way."
"Invent" is correct in paraphrasing. Either way, Mr. Gore's statement is just not correct.
"Every time you type a comment like that you "create" stupidity, but you certainly did not invent it."
That is a bad analogy. He said he created THE internet: which is one single entity (GWB's "Internets" claim to the contrary)
"Perhaps it is also hard to admit that you buy into the right wing spin (and yes it is just that)"
Why admit something that is not true at all? Why even mention some political wing's editorializing at all? It detracts from the facts.
You are injecting wing politics into it. It is but a red herring. My sources for the facts are places like "History of the Internet and Web", and CNN's web site. I have no idea what Fox News and Rush Limbaugh exactly say about it, as I do not care. Let Gore speak for Gore: and his exact quote is found on CNN's site. The "right wing" is not relevant in this whatsoever, and can be factored out. It goes without saying that when GWB lies, the left wing will make more hay out of it than the right wing. Just as the right wing made more hay of Gore's false statement than the left wing did. Ignore the spin: go to Gore's real quote.
"This is for you from me : "Even Bill O'Reily is right sometimes""
Now that is a falaful thing to say!
"or that you are unable to admit your mistakes?"
Sure I've made mistakes. However, that is also a red herring. It does not make Mr. Gore's statement any less untrue that others have made mistakes and said untrue statements.
GWB's "internets" quotes is just as bad as Gore's. However, you are not defending an untrue statement here,so no controversy.
"I am sure there are very real issues with politicians truly lying that you could take up"
This is one of those. However, I prefer to believe that Al Gore misspoke, and that his statement was not an intent to lie. Regardless of intent, the statement is not historically correct and not worth defending.
"Thank god Gore championed the internet when no one else saw it for what it was"
I certainly agree, and have acknowledged his great role time and again in different ways. However, that does not make his false statement that he "created it" while in Congress any more true. Gore's not perfect. Let us live with the fact that he slipped up making this statement. It looks pretty bad to twist the facts to try and make misstatement appear true.
I've had a perfectly good web site of decent scholarly interest up for some time now. Google has refused to index it.It in no way violates their terms. I think it is unfortunate, but not horrible, and not a denial of my rights.
"Until Google says: "WordPress is the devil, use OUR service or don't get indexed!""
So what? That is Google's right. No one is forced to use their service or be indexed by it. Google are perfectly free to exclude garbage sites. There are plenty of search engines and indexes that will include them.
Snopes acknowledges that it was created before Gore got involved. I quoted Cerf's words on the matter.
"It sounds like you're getting really hung up on the word "create". "
I thought the issue was whether or not a claim of "create" was correct or not?
"There's a lot more to the word "create" that does not mean invent."
You are weaseling now....
"But I have one little nit of my own to pick. It wasn't called the "Internet" back then"
That would be a good nit to pick if it existed. However, the name "Internet" was used for it in by 1974.... still before Gore's involvement. See below.
"Either way, you're wrong about it being there before Gore"
And you accuse me of ignoring Cerf and Snopes: both of them say it was there before Gore.
Seeing as how you ignore your own sources, here is another: "The History of the Internet and Web."
Please see this part: "1974 May
Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn publish 'A Protocol for Packet Network Internetworking', which established the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP). This is also the first time the term Internet was used. "
Study some Internet history. Look at the FAQ. The Snopes article even refers to it being created before Gore was involved. Logically, if something was created before someone says it was created, then the "says" is false. Simple matter of the timing of events.
Did you even read the Vint Cerf article? It is not very good support for the idea that Gore really did create the Internet. Cerf devotes much attention to the work he did in helping the Internet evolve. Why even waste time on that: we all agree he did it and it was very important?
However, Cerf does not agree that Gore created the Internet. In fact, Cerf's wording "Gore's
initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving
Internet" speaks to it existing before Gore got involved with it. Cerf's wording also implies that Gore's statement was not true (Gore just did not really mean to say it that way).
Elsewhere, Cerf says "Our work on the Internet started in 1973". This is about 4 years before Gore got into Congress. He helped expand it. He helped get others involved. Yeah, Gore helped fund it. He helped open it. He helped sell it. But the creation part? Someone else took that initiative....
"Not in 1984 there wasn't. Arpanet, yes. But nothing we'd recognize as the Internet today"
The Internet existed and the name Internet was used for it in the early 1970s, before Gore got involved. It's history. You cannot change it. Even the Snopes article says this.
"But nothing we'd recognize as the Internet today."
Why is this even worth mentioning? The Internet today hardly resembles what it was when Mr. Gore LEFT Congress. It evolves. I've got a bucketfull of spam and mp3 files that I can send you to show evidence of big change even after Gore's involvement:)
"Quite simply, if you had been around in 1984, you wouldn't have found an Internet Service Provider because they didn't exist"
So? Inventing the ISP company is not the same as inventing the Internet. To use this in support of Gore's untrue claim, we can say that those who invented the air conditioner invented the automobile!
We get your point. Gore helped change the Internet. But he did not create it.
"Quite simply, what we know as The Internet did not exist in the eighties"
Certainly it existed before that: in the early 1970s. It has evolved over time, including with help from Gore. This evolution does not change these facts.
"Who took that initiative, that funding, the set of government mandates etc necessary, through Congress? Vint Cerf says it was Al Gore."
The same Vint Cerf who has been quoted saying that Gore did not create the Internet....
"Does Google now dictate the content of other people's webservers as a condition of their being indexed?"
Google can't dictate content except on its own sites (google, froogle, etc), and they certainly are not doing it here. However they are perfectly free to leave junk sites out of their index. Google exercising freedom over its own index is not censorship nor is it dictating the content of other's sites.
Please see this posting in Slashdot for an example of someone claiming that Gore really did create the Internet. These kind of claims are rather common.
"And John Kennedy had nothing to do with putting a man on the moon"
Kennedy did launch the Apollo program, actually. But the reason yout analogy is BAD is because the Internet existed before Gore claimed he created it. We did not put a man on the moon before Kennedy started Apollo. A matter of order of events that you are forgetting.
"And it turns out that these are all the same things that Gore did for the internet. Parts existed prior to Gore"
It existed, and it was called the Internet. Others created it before he was involved. Yes, we know he helped improve it greatly....after it was created by others.
"he's the one who put together the political support and money to take it to the next level and bring it public."
So? We all know that. However, this information of him helping it grow after the fact of its creation does not make his claim of "took the initiative in creating the Internet" any more true. There is an actual historic timeline here, and you seem to be ignoring that some events took place before others.
"Without him it might have remained a research project for another 5-10 years. Until someone else "invented" it, maybe someone more politically favorable to you."
Look at the history of the Internet and get back with us. It was "invented" before Gore, so "without him" it STILL would have been invented. The actual order of events, again. If event A occurs before event B, event A still occurs even if event B never did.
"Until someone else "invented" it, maybe someone more politically favorable to you."
So it is a matter of bias to you? It isn't to me. I'm just seeing whether his statement was true or not.
"To those who say the words "create" and "invent" mean the same thing then why have the media overwhelmingly..."
Who cares? I'm just evaluating whether or not the paraphase of him saying he invented it is correct. It appears to be correct (the meanings are close enough), but using the word "invent" in an exact quote of Mr. Gore is incorrect. However the media spins it is another story.
"FROM TFA: today's Internet came into being well before Gore's first term in Congress began in 1977"
That is buried in there, isn't it? Yet, I've seen TFA used as support for the claim that Gore really did create the Internet.
While the statement is incorrect, it would be more fair to call it a mistake than some sort of diabolical lie.
"He was very intstumental in getting government funding for the internet."
Yes, but at the time he did this, the Internet was in place. He helped it along. He did not create it.
"He was not on the stump and repeatedly making the claim as the conservative media would have the public believe"
I have seen reference to it in many sites. Not once have I seen conservative media say that he said it many times. Or even more than once. Usually, the reader is pointed to the one instance of the CNN interview.
"Like it or not the Internet could not have become what it is today with out government funding. Al Gore was a big part of getting that funding."
You can say the same thing about Henry Ford, sort of. However this does not mean that Ford brought the automobile into existence.
"And if we didnt send billions of dollars to Jews in Isreal, we _definatly_ wouldnt be hated within the Muslim world."
I guess it follows that the United States would be loved by all the Muslims if we exterminated the Jews instead of made them billionaires. Looks like that is what you want, anyway.
No, you are. This is one of the worse Snopes articles, as it tries to gloss over these important facts:
Gore did claim to be the one to bring the Internet into being while in Congress. He used the word "Create". "Invent" means the same thing in this context.
Gore's claim was incorrect: the Internet had already existed, and was called the Internet for a few years before he was in Congress.
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So, while he did not create it, he altered its business model? That would be relevant, if his actual CNN quote referred to this.
Yes, he did great things to help the Net grow!!! Who is arguing that he didn't? But this all happened after others created it.
Thanks. That is exactly what you did in your use of the Cerf quotation. You ignored the parts that showed your case to be wrong. I read and used it all. Most of it, however, lauds Gore for what he did to help the Internet long after others created it. It is kind off-topic. "2. Search the testemony for the occasional awkward phrase or incomplete coverage." You probably did this too. Not sure where!
"3. Change the definition of words to use a definition different than what the author meant"
That is exactly what you do when you change the definition of "Create" to something other than create.
There are two approaches to debate: 1. Try to establish the truth. 2. Try to win the arguement.
In this, I am using the first. My sources are Gore's actual quote on CNN and rock-solid histories of the Internet that show when things actually occured. Please see the summary at the end. Whether or not I win, who cares. Hopefully, someday you will look at the sequence of events.
"These are also the main tactics you are using in this thread."
The first set of tactics sure fits what you did, especially in the Cerf quotations.
"They only show that you are not interested in the truth"
If I wasn't interested in the truth, why do I insist on referring to actual words and actual chronologies? The Internet was created before Gore was in Congress. We all know this is true. Yet. you insist it is not. It appears you are not interested in the truth. Do your homework. Find out when Gore first got to Congress.
but rather in either protecting your disapproval or Gore or protecting your own arrogance.
It is not arrogance to have the knowledge of certain historical facts which you insist on ignorance of. I do not have "disapproval" of Gore for this incorrect statement. Gore admitted he misspoke. He's a sensibie guy Many misspeak during interviews. The ones I have disapproval of are the ones who for no good reason are insisting that Gore's admitted error is true. In effect, you are calling Gore a liar for insisting that his interview stumble is factual when Gore admitted it was a simple mistake.
"1. Create != Invent. I can create a computer by buying parts and assembling them."
Depends on the context. If you say "you create The Computer", this means that you created the first one, Invent means the same in such a context. Is your analogy intentionally false? Gore did not say that he "created an internet".
It is a distinct difference in definition that can only be missed if you intentionally want to misinterpret it."
I wonder what explains your getting the analogy so wrong.
Gore can create the internet by bringing together the time....
Yet, he didn't. He got there too late: others had already done this before. It is a matter of historical record that the Internet was created and named as such before Gore was in Congress.
"It is not invention and Gore never said it was."
Yet, in his mistatement, it is. Regardless of who did it when, creating the Internet is invention. "Invention" is always an appropriate word for creating an entire new technology.
"That was done by some dumbass who was intentionally trying to take him down. "
Gore was the only one talking during the CNN interview. The statement was his alone. Looks like you are calling him a dumbass. I don't think he is. Or do you think that Wolf Blitzer is a diabolical fiend who sandbagged him?
"2. Internet != internetworking."
It is not chopped liver, either. This is a bogus argument. Who equated them? Not Gore, not me.
Next.... "Internet is a proper noun, the name of the large network of computers based around TCP/IP and the root name ser
Sometimes, invent is not correct in paraphrasing. For some reason, "invent" is never used for life forms. It is often used for technologies. Also, this is yet another bad analogy (creating one of many vs creating something for the first time. The latter is like inventing). You are missing it in two different ways.
"Nah. I think you are just purposefully taking the most improbable interpretation because it makes someone you don't like appear stupid"
No, it doesn't make Gore look stupid. He even admitted he misspoke later. He would only look like an idiot if he insisted that the phony statement was true. It does shine a negative light on those who alter words beyond meaning to justify a false statement that never can be true.
I bet the horrible wet ripping sound of this happening was pretty bad with just sound. I'm glad I don't have to see this on TV. It would probably look too much like goatse.
When it comes to determining content of your own site, I am 100% emphatic that the "job" goes to the "private sector" so to speak. That is the 1st Amendment, after all.
"Any idea why your site would not have been indexed?" No, but someone said that Google would have indexed me if I had paid Google.
No, it is by looking at what the word means. The two mean the same thing in this context of Mr. Gore's quotes.
"It is easy to choose to hear what you want, especially if it casts someone you don't like in a bad way."
"Invent" is correct in paraphrasing. Either way, Mr. Gore's statement is just not correct.
"Every time you type a comment like that you "create" stupidity, but you certainly did not invent it."
That is a bad analogy. He said he created THE internet: which is one single entity (GWB's "Internets" claim to the contrary)
"Perhaps it is also hard to admit that you buy into the right wing spin (and yes it is just that)"
Why admit something that is not true at all? Why even mention some political wing's editorializing at all? It detracts from the facts. You are injecting wing politics into it. It is but a red herring. My sources for the facts are places like "History of the Internet and Web", and CNN's web site. I have no idea what Fox News and Rush Limbaugh exactly say about it, as I do not care. Let Gore speak for Gore: and his exact quote is found on CNN's site. The "right wing" is not relevant in this whatsoever, and can be factored out. It goes without saying that when GWB lies, the left wing will make more hay out of it than the right wing. Just as the right wing made more hay of Gore's false statement than the left wing did. Ignore the spin: go to Gore's real quote.
"This is for you from me : "Even Bill O'Reily is right sometimes""
Now that is a falaful thing to say!
"or that you are unable to admit your mistakes?"
Sure I've made mistakes. However, that is also a red herring. It does not make Mr. Gore's statement any less untrue that others have made mistakes and said untrue statements.
GWB's "internets" quotes is just as bad as Gore's. However, you are not defending an untrue statement here,so no controversy.
"I am sure there are very real issues with politicians truly lying that you could take up"
This is one of those. However, I prefer to believe that Al Gore misspoke, and that his statement was not an intent to lie. Regardless of intent, the statement is not historically correct and not worth defending.
"Thank god Gore championed the internet when no one else saw it for what it was"
I certainly agree, and have acknowledged his great role time and again in different ways. However, that does not make his false statement that he "created it" while in Congress any more true. Gore's not perfect. Let us live with the fact that he slipped up making this statement. It looks pretty bad to twist the facts to try and make misstatement appear true.
I've had a perfectly good web site of decent scholarly interest up for some time now. Google has refused to index it.It in no way violates their terms. I think it is unfortunate, but not horrible, and not a denial of my rights.
"Until Google says: "WordPress is the devil, use OUR service or don't get indexed!"" So what? That is Google's right. No one is forced to use their service or be indexed by it. Google are perfectly free to exclude garbage sites. There are plenty of search engines and indexes that will include them.
Snopes acknowledges that it was created before Gore got involved. I quoted Cerf's words on the matter.
"It sounds like you're getting really hung up on the word "create". "
I thought the issue was whether or not a claim of "create" was correct or not?
"There's a lot more to the word "create" that does not mean invent."
You are weaseling now....
"But I have one little nit of my own to pick. It wasn't called the "Internet" back then"
That would be a good nit to pick if it existed. However, the name "Internet" was used for it in by 1974.... still before Gore's involvement. See below.
"Either way, you're wrong about it being there before Gore"
And you accuse me of ignoring Cerf and Snopes: both of them say it was there before Gore.
Seeing as how you ignore your own sources, here is another: "The History of the Internet and Web."
Please see this part: "1974 May Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn publish 'A Protocol for Packet Network Internetworking', which established the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP). This is also the first time the term Internet was used. "
His point wasn't very good. It is common knowledge that anyone can robots.txt themselves out of the Google index if they want.
No, you could not be more wrong. I did not choose the Atari ST. I chose the Atari 400 over the Amiga!
Study some Internet history. Look at the FAQ. The Snopes article even refers to it being created before Gore was involved. Logically, if something was created before someone says it was created, then the "says" is false. Simple matter of the timing of events.
You are changing the sentence to fit your argument. Gore really said he created it. He did not say he promoted it.
"though that's how the quotation has been manipulated"
That is exactly what you did when you wiped the "create" word out and replaced it with "promote".
"Hence the disingenuous substitution of "inventing" for the actual language.""
How is this disingenous? When used this way, the word means the same thing. It is much less disingenous than your use of "promote" to mean "create".
However, Cerf does not agree that Gore created the Internet. In fact, Cerf's wording "Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet" speaks to it existing before Gore got involved with it. Cerf's wording also implies that Gore's statement was not true (Gore just did not really mean to say it that way).
Elsewhere, Cerf says "Our work on the Internet started in 1973". This is about 4 years before Gore got into Congress. He helped expand it. He helped get others involved. Yeah, Gore helped fund it. He helped open it. He helped sell it. But the creation part? Someone else took that initiative....
The Internet existed and the name Internet was used for it in the early 1970s, before Gore got involved. It's history. You cannot change it. Even the Snopes article says this.
"But nothing we'd recognize as the Internet today."
Why is this even worth mentioning? The Internet today hardly resembles what it was when Mr. Gore LEFT Congress. It evolves. I've got a bucketfull of spam and mp3 files that I can send you to show evidence of big change even after Gore's involvement :)
"Quite simply, if you had been around in 1984, you wouldn't have found an Internet Service Provider because they didn't exist"
So? Inventing the ISP company is not the same as inventing the Internet. To use this in support of Gore's untrue claim, we can say that those who invented the air conditioner invented the automobile!
We get your point. Gore helped change the Internet. But he did not create it.
"Quite simply, what we know as The Internet did not exist in the eighties"
Certainly it existed before that: in the early 1970s. It has evolved over time, including with help from Gore. This evolution does not change these facts.
"Who took that initiative, that funding, the set of government mandates etc necessary, through Congress? Vint Cerf says it was Al Gore."
The same Vint Cerf who has been quoted saying that Gore did not create the Internet....
Google can't dictate content except on its own sites (google, froogle, etc), and they certainly are not doing it here. However they are perfectly free to leave junk sites out of their index. Google exercising freedom over its own index is not censorship nor is it dictating the content of other's sites.
Please see this posting in Slashdot for an example of someone claiming that Gore really did create the Internet. These kind of claims are rather common.
Kennedy did launch the Apollo program, actually. But the reason yout analogy is BAD is because the Internet existed before Gore claimed he created it. We did not put a man on the moon before Kennedy started Apollo. A matter of order of events that you are forgetting.
"And it turns out that these are all the same things that Gore did for the internet. Parts existed prior to Gore"
It existed, and it was called the Internet. Others created it before he was involved. Yes, we know he helped improve it greatly....after it was created by others.
"he's the one who put together the political support and money to take it to the next level and bring it public."
So? We all know that. However, this information of him helping it grow after the fact of its creation does not make his claim of "took the initiative in creating the Internet" any more true. There is an actual historic timeline here, and you seem to be ignoring that some events took place before others.
"Without him it might have remained a research project for another 5-10 years. Until someone else "invented" it, maybe someone more politically favorable to you."
Look at the history of the Internet and get back with us. It was "invented" before Gore, so "without him" it STILL would have been invented. The actual order of events, again. If event A occurs before event B, event A still occurs even if event B never did.
"Until someone else "invented" it, maybe someone more politically favorable to you."
So it is a matter of bias to you? It isn't to me. I'm just seeing whether his statement was true or not.
Who cares? I'm just evaluating whether or not the paraphase of him saying he invented it is correct. It appears to be correct (the meanings are close enough), but using the word "invent" in an exact quote of Mr. Gore is incorrect. However the media spins it is another story.
"FROM TFA: today's Internet came into being well before Gore's first term in Congress began in 1977"
That is buried in there, isn't it? Yet, I've seen TFA used as support for the claim that Gore really did create the Internet.
"He was very intstumental in getting government funding for the internet."
Yes, but at the time he did this, the Internet was in place. He helped it along. He did not create it.
"He was not on the stump and repeatedly making the claim as the conservative media would have the public believe"
I have seen reference to it in many sites. Not once have I seen conservative media say that he said it many times. Or even more than once. Usually, the reader is pointed to the one instance of the CNN interview.
"Like it or not the Internet could not have become what it is today with out government funding. Al Gore was a big part of getting that funding."
You can say the same thing about Henry Ford, sort of. However this does not mean that Ford brought the automobile into existence.
Summary
Gore did a lot for the Internet
Yet, he did not create it.
When he said he did, it was not a true statement.
I guess it follows that the United States would be loved by all the Muslims if we exterminated the Jews instead of made them billionaires. Looks like that is what you want, anyway.
No, you are. This is one of the worse Snopes articles, as it tries to gloss over these important facts:
Gore did claim to be the one to bring the Internet into being while in Congress. He used the word "Create". "Invent" means the same thing in this context.
Gore's claim was incorrect: the Internet had already existed, and was called the Internet for a few years before he was in Congress.
#1 - The first rule of Wordpress is, you do not talk about Wordpress.
#2 - The second rule of Wordpress is, you DO NOT talk about Wordpress.
So spamming and trashing search engines is OK if you think it is a good cause?
Take off every... oh never mind. Wrong Wing game. You must mean the one that has the movie with the wet cats.